I am following this XDA section for a long time now. For most of the time, there were 2 or 3 ROMs (with more or less regular updates) for swift available: Cyanogen/Lineage, crDroid and Ressurection Remix.
In the last two months, nearly a dozen of new ROMs appeared, most of them unofficials. Can anybody explain this to me? Why do they appear now, where the Swift is (in my eyes) disappearing from the market?
Greetings
Matthias
Once you flash them all, you'll understand. They are pretty much the same. Different mix of features, all of them are LineageOS based. The only one you probably SHOULD try is Beroid's ROM (Dirty Unicorns and CRdroid), and LineageOS / ResurrectionRemix IMO, probably Mokee. Custom ROM's availability is more about the will of its creators, not about the headset itself. One day addictz10 just came and throw us as many of them, as he could.
It came to a point that I ask to myself the same question also. Rather than a question, I think its a blessing to have these. Many kinds of ROM to choose from a device with an official support that almost dead.
The real question is "Are we expect to have a frequent updates to these ROMs?"
All ROMs are almost the same but ViperOS, DU got my attention. I'm trying to boot AOSPA 7.2.2 at the moment, but sadly it's stuck at bootanimation, wish me luck
cheers,
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All ROMs are almost the same but ViperOS, DU got my attention. I'm trying to boot AOSPA 7.2.2 at the moment, but sadly it's stuck at bootanimation, wish me luck
cheers,
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Much better if you choose one AOSP/CAF based and LOS based for easy manage.
Also considered a fully featured ROM of course.
Cheers!
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I just received a used Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 (SM-T320) - and discovered (not known to me before purchase) it is Rooted.
When I went to do an Update via standard Settings>about Device - it refused returning tablet modified.
also it had the App SuperSU (free) installed) which asked about permission on a couple of Apps I used.
I have absolutely no experience of Rooted tablets,
and currently have no idea how the tablet was rooted, and what with.
So I am seeking your patience and some advice about this, please.
Is there a way to return to the Stock installation?
If so, how to I check that this is possible?
Or should I keep the Root?
If so, how do I update the tablet?
eg: how do I check what, or if any, custom ROM has been installed?
or
which custom ROM do people advise I install?
Thanks for any advice.
Vincent
Just back up your valuable data and storage contents and flash stock via Odin. And I believe at this time point the updates are not of much importance, so if you're on KitKat you might as well ignore that if you can't spare time for backups.
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AndyYan said:
Just back up your valuable data and storage contents and flash stock via Odin. And I believe at this time point the updates are not of much importance, so if you're on KitKat you might as well ignore that if you can't spare time for backups.
Thanks for the reply.
Funny that was starting to be my take too.
Either leave it rooted as is - since it really is just KitKat 4.4.2 - but with more ability.
Or later when the spirit moves perhaps upgrade via a custom rom.
Thank you.
Vincent
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@vincent. I have the same tablet as you and I prefer to run the latest OS which is Marshmallow. As you state you are already rooted so you might as well try out a custom ROM. I recommend Resurrection Remix ROM by Vasumit and the XDA thread can be found here. Latest update to ROM is here. You will also need to install gapps. I recommend Banks Dynamic Gapps 6.X.X found here. Give it a try, I'm sure you will like it. ROM is buttery smooth and Vasumit updates it often. :good::good:
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@vincent. I have the same tablet as you and I prefer to run the latest OS which is Marshmallow. As you state you are already rooted so you might as well try out a custom ROM. I recommend Resurrection Remix ROM by Vasumit and the XDA thread can be found here. Latest update to ROM is here. You will also need to install gapps. I recommend Banks Dynamic Gapps 6.X.X found here. Give it a try, I'm sure you will like it. ROM is buttery smooth and Vasumit updates it often. :good::good:
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Thank you so much for your encouragement and suggestion.
Even though I have used Android on tablets and phones for years -
I am still a n00b when it comes to Root and Custom ROMs
I have heard of the more famous ROMs like CyanogenMod etc -
what makes Resurrection Remix ROM by Vasumit better than CyanogenMod
in terms of features and/or support please?
How easy (or not) are custom ROMs to undo?
Many thanks,
UnknownVT said:
I have heard of the more famous ROMs like CyanogenMod etc -
what makes Resurrection Remix ROM by Vasumit better than CyanogenMod
in terms of features and/or support please?
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Personal opinion below: most AOSP-based ROMs have equal or slightly better support than CM because the team behind them is much smaller, but they might die out one day because of the same reason. CM maintains a huge number of devices and is the basis of many, so it's not likely to disappear soon. Also, CM is usually among the quickest to get to a new Android version while others usually sync from CM and start from there.
As of features, others are guaranteed to have more than CM. CM doesn't like adding features these days.
How easy (or not) are custom ROMs to undo?
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Do: Flash TWRP, make a full backup of your stock ROM, full wipe and flash the new one.
Undo: Full wipe and restore the old backup, or if you decide you don't want your data, use Odin.
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Personal opinion below: most AOSP-based ROMs have equal or slightly better support than CM because the team behind them is much smaller, but they might die out one day because of the same reason. CM maintains a huge number of devices and is the basis of many, so it's not likely to disappear soon. Also, CM is usually among the quickest to get to a new Android version while others usually sync from CM and start from there.
As of features, others are guaranteed to have more than CM. CM doesn't like adding features these days.
Do: Flash TWRP, make a full backup of your stock ROM, full wipe and flash the new one.
Undo: Full wipe and restore the old backup, or if you decide you don't want your data, use Odin.
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Thank you very much for the very helpful reply -
this was about as good as I was hoping for -
really appreciate all the help I am getting here, thank you.
It will take a bit of time for me to get my head around the information - as it is all new to me -
and I want to proceed with care/caution so I don't end up bricking my tablet.
Gratefully and thanks,
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Thank you very much for the very helpful reply -
this was about as good as I was hoping for -
really appreciate all the help I am getting here, thank you.
It will take a bit of time for me to get my head around the information - as it is all new to me -
and I want to proceed with care/caution so I don't end up bricking my tablet.
Gratefully and thanks,
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Hey!
you could look at it this way, most of the people here have a hard time just ulocking the device and rooting it, not that yours is already done, might as well right. along with the proper research, your device could be one hundred times better, the stock OS of the tablet isn't that good (lets face it.) and with the current technology, it will have a hard time keeping up because the OS for this device is not that efficient (personal opinion). Anyways, it's still up to you to do it or not. Cyanogenmod has released the nightly version of Marshmallow 6.0 for this device. maybe you could check it out!! ^_^
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Hey!
you could look at it this way, most of the people here have a hard time just ulocking the device and rooting it, not that yours is already done, might as well right. along with the proper research, your device could be one hundred times better, the stock OS of the tablet isn't that good (lets face it.) and with the current technology, it will have a hard time keeping up because the OS for this device is not that efficient (personal opinion). Anyways, it's still up to you to do it or not. Cyanogenmod has released the nightly version of Marshmallow 6.0 for this device. maybe you could check it out!! ^_^
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Yes, thanks for the encouragement.
Seems ironic that I had done lots of look-sees (not quite research, but close) about rooting devices - and I actually now have one
(it was just unexpected on this Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 (SM-T320)).
As you see I've decided to keep it rooted and am actively looking at which ROM to flash -
currently I am leaning toward the more conservative approach of doing the CM (CyanogenMod)
and rather than deciding between the snapshot CM-12.1 or the nightly CM-13.0....
perhaps I should just wait for a snapshot CM-13.0
(" and we’ll have a quality approved SNAPSHOT for CM13 sometime Jan." of course it is now Feb - so maybe soon?)
Thanks,
UnknownVT said:
perhaps I should just wait for a snapshot CM-13.0
(" and we’ll have a quality approved SNAPSHOT for CM13 sometime Jan." of course it is now Feb - so maybe soon?)
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Don't wait for snapshots - they are just forked from nightlies at a certain timepoint and aren't more stable than nightlies. Just backup and flash a nightly, and if anything you feel unstable, restore the backup and/or wait for that to get resolved. I personally don't see anything disturbing aside from wonky external SD support (which is a universal bug across all 6.0+ ROMs).
P.S. The "Thanks" button is there - use it
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Don't wait for snapshots - they are just forked from nightlies at a certain timepoint and aren't more stable than nightlies. Just backup and flash a nightly, and if anything you feel unstable, restore the backup and/or wait for that to get resolved. I personally don't see anything disturbing aside from wonky external SD support (which is a universal bug across all 6.0+ ROMs).
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Thanks again, and thanks for pointing out the ext SD card issue with 6.0+ ROMs
Does this work?
How to Use SD Card as Internal Storage on Marshmallow ...
Thanks.
UnknownVT said:
Thanks again, and thanks for pointing out the ext SD card issue with 6.0+ ROMs
Does this work?
How to Use SD Card as Internal Storage on Marshmallow ...
Thanks.
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The issue is mainly with how to use SD card as external storage (as on older Android versions), not with the new "adoptable storage" feature. That we don't have a definitive solution yet.
You might want to read through the last pages of the CM13 discussion thread in Development subforum if you're determined to get it working.
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After leaving the G3 and later aquiring an older, kind of busted but still functional G3, I went ahead and got it rooted and ready for a custom ROM.
Seems like the D852 and other variants are definitely not seeing as much support as the D855. (Which is understandable of course seeing as it's the international model.) But I dont ever remember having almost no OMS / Layers options or other ROMs to flash.
Does anyone here know where I might dig up some D852 XenonHD, RR, TipsyOS, or any of those sorts of ROMs? All I see is Octo and AICP, among some modified stock ROMs, and a handful of older deprecated builds..
The d852 has never had as much support as the d855. There are several roms available; LineageOS, cleanrom (google for the google+ community as it is not on xda), beanstalk (part of the cleanrom google+ community), crdroid. Cleanrom supports substratum. I'm not too sure about the others.
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The d852 has never had as much support as the d855. There are several roms available; LineageOS, cleanrom (google for the google+ community as it is not on xda), beanstalk (part of the cleanrom google+ community), crdroid. Cleanrom supports substratum. I'm not too sure about the others.
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Cool thanks for the info! As far as those ROMs go, have you tried the majority of them? I've only tried crdroid, and Fulmics ROM so far. Hope to test out a couple more.
I've tried cleanrom and lineage os. Cleamrom is pretty much stock AOSP with some minor features like advanced reboot menu. I'm running lineage right now and I like it. Lineage apparently has no theme engine yet.
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I've tried cleanrom and lineage os. Cleamrom is pretty much stock AOSP with some minor features like advanced reboot menu. I'm running lineage right now and I like it. Lineage apparently has no theme engine yet.
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Curious to know if Lineage OS works with Substratum for now before the theme engine comes back..
From some posts I've read substratum does work for some themes. It's the kind of thing you have to try and see if it works.
Make your own
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After leaving the G3 and later aquiring an older, kind of busted but still functional G3, I went ahead and got it rooted and ready for a custom ROM.
Seems like the D852 and other variants are definitely not seeing as much support as the D855. (Which is understandable of course seeing as it's the international model.) But I dont ever remember having almost no OMS / Layers options or other ROMs to flash.
Does anyone here know where I might dig up some D852 XenonHD, RR, TipsyOS, or any of those sorts of ROMs? All I see is Octo and AICP, among some modified stock ROMs, and a handful of older deprecated builds..
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Just ao u know oct os does not officially support d852. But what you can do since most of these are based off cm. Plz do not share the hard work of these developers but i usually just download a d855 rom unzip it andtake the system dat file out of it. Then i download aicp and teplace the system dat with the one i extracted zip it back up. And flash away. Now i do this for personal use so i can test out all these good roms that these developers make.
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Just ao u know oct os does not officially support d852. But what you can do since most of these are based off cm. Plz do not share the hard work of these developers but i usually just download a d855 rom unzip it andtake the system dat file out of it. Then i download aicp and teplace the system dat with the one i extracted zip it back up. And flash away. Now i do this for personal use so i can test out all these good roms that these developers make.
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Hah, doesn't the system.dat file contain almost all of the ROM? From my understanding, you're just flashing AICP with very little changes over and over. Also I'm not sharing their work, I was simply looking for D852 ROMs to improve my broken G3’s battery, but thanks for the post.
Umm no
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Hah, doesn't the system.dat file contain almost all of the ROM? From my understanding, you're just flashing AICP with very little changes over and over. Also I'm not sharing their work, I was simply looking for D852 ROMs to improve my broken G3’s battery, but thanks for the post.
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Youd be flashing oct os with all the working boot from aicp and u miss understood me. I meant only use that for personal use not saying u made it lol.
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Youd be flashing oct os with all the working boot from aicp and u miss understood me. I meant only use that for personal use not saying u made it lol.
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I never said "I made it", anyways good day sir.
Lol
Misunderstanding again lol i know u didnt say u made it i was just saying dont. Lol but its all good
I bought this device today.
I got it because I wanted to get into custom ROMs/Root.
Is there anything I need to know about this phone that will be helpful? Tips & Tricks?
Also I hear talk of Lineage OS vs Oxygen. Which is better and why? (Please don't be LINEAGE OF COURSE FTW, I want reasons. Couldn't find that anywhere)
Should I chose Oxygen beta 8.0, or the Lineage beta for 8.0?
Coming from an LG V10 (AT&T) where I couldn't modify it for ****, and broke after a little over a year (LG Bootloop issue)
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I bought this device today.
I got it because I wanted to get into custom ROMs/Root.
Is there anything I need to know about this phone that will be helpful? Tips & Tricks?
Also I hear talk of Lineage OS vs Oxygen. Which is better and why? (Please don't be LINEAGE OF COURSE FTW, I want reasons. Couldn't find that anywhere)
Should I chose Oxygen beta 8.0, or the Lineage beta for 8.0?
Coming from an LG V10 (AT&T) where I couldn't modify it for ****, and broke after a little over a year (LG Bootloop issue)
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The ROM you want to use can only be your decision based on what features you want for example if you want loads of tweaking features then I'd suggest resurrection remix and for the very latest android version then oxygen OS or lineage 8.0 both are good in their own ways you'd have to check the description to see which suits your needs , one big tip I can give you though is to always use the latest blu_spark recovery because its been modified to support a variety of ROMs and if your a flashaholic like me then always perform a nandroid backup before switching ROMs its simple advice but can save you loads of time if you don't like the ROM you've chosen and obviously before trying to unlock the bootloader via adb then enable developer options and enable OEM unlocking (some people forget) good luck and enjoy this wicked phone...
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The ROM you want to use can only be your decision based on what features you want for example if you want loads of tweaking features then I'd suggest resurrection remix and for the very latest android version then oxygen OS or lineage 8.0 both are good in their own ways you'd have to check the description to see which suits your needs , one big tip I can give you though is to always use the latest blu_spark recovery because its been modified to support a variety of ROMs and if your a flashaholic like me then always perform a nandroid backup before switching ROMs its simple advice but can save you loads of time if you don't like the ROM you've chosen and obviously before trying to unlock the bootloader via adb then enable developer options and enable OEM unlocking (some people forget) good luck and enjoy this wicked phone...
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Ah ok thanks for that blu_spark bit, I was just gonna stick with stock kernel, but now I am seeing the benefits of custom ones.
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Ah ok thanks for that blu_spark bit, I was just gonna go TWRP since that's all I have heard about, I got drawn in by the LG V10 by marketing, sucked so now going towards a phone that will last. Not having to rely on AT&T for updates is a surefire way to get that.
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I had an LG G4 , great phone but I too suffered the bootloop problem and LG did nothing to refund me so no more LG phones for me , p.s please leave a thumbs up on my posts if I've helped I truly appreciate it and if you need any more help just come back to this post and quote my message and I'll help as best I can ...
ZVNexus said:
I bought this device today.
I got it because I wanted to get into custom ROMs/Root.
Is there anything I need to know about this phone that will be helpful? Tips & Tricks?
Also I hear talk of Lineage OS vs Oxygen. Which is better and why? (Please don't be LINEAGE OF COURSE FTW, I want reasons. Couldn't find that anywhere)
Should I chose Oxygen beta 8.0, or the Lineage beta for 8.0?
Coming from an LG V10 (AT&T) where I couldn't modify it for ****, and broke after a little over a year (LG Bootloop issue)
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Flash Zenity RR as soon as you get a chance! It's an awesome ROM.
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Ah ok thanks for that blu_spark bit, I was just gonna stick with stock kernel, but now I am seeing the benefits of custom ones.
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Xceeder was talking about recovery, not kernel. Since this phone is new for you, certain idiosyncrasies of this phone must be learnt. One of them is the recovery. Ofcourse official TWRP is there but it will not work with many custom ROMs. One of the best recoveries for this phone is made by bluspark who is well-known for his kernels. It is that recovery which Xceeder was talking about. I also use the same.
As regards ROMs, apart from what Xceeder stated, if you are satisfied with a smooth and battery friendly ROM, I can recommend VertexOS. But it will not have any bells or whistles. Another battery friendly and smooth ROM with some tweaks built-in is PureFusion. Both these I have used. But if you need many tweaks, go with Xceeder's recommendations. As he said, ROMs are a personal choice and what I like, you may not. So read about a few, flash a few and finalise.
Advance wishes for a happy experience.
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Xceeder was talking about recovery, not kernel. Since this phone is new for you, certain idiosyncrasies of this phone must be learnt. One of them is the recovery. Ofcourse official TWRP is there but it will not work with many custom ROMs. One of the best recoveries for this phone is made by bluspark who is well-known for his kernels. It is that recovery which Xceeder was talking about. I also use the same.
As regards ROMs, apart from what Xceeder stated, if you are satisfied with a smooth and battery friendly ROM, I can recommend VertexOS. But it will not have any bells or whistles. Another battery friendly and smooth ROM with some tweaks built-in is PureFusion. Both these I have used. But if you need many tweaks, go with Xceeder's recommendations. As he said, ROMs are a personal choice and what I like, you may not. So read about a few, flash a few and finalise.
Advance wishes for a happy experience.
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Ah ok only reason I said kernel was because [kernel] was the first thing that came up when I typed in blu_spark.
Coming from stock 7.0 and November 2017 security patch what ROM would you recommend that in the words of Apple fans 'just works' ?
Is lineage 15.1 still the best option .. .. Am I right in thinking it no longer gets updated ? Is that because all the bugs have been ironed out or because developers have moved onto Pie ?
Are there any negatives I should be aware of. ?
I've used Lineage before, it has given my old Samsung tablet a new lease of life.
Search didn't bring up any results newer than august 2018.
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You should read the threads and what people think about the ROMs. There are some really good devs out there doing great jobs, but to give you a wrap up would be to much here. I run on Resurrection Remix and am pretty happy, everything works as I need it.
I think best rom is ResurrectionRemix and bootleggers. Those are perfect rom. I use rr but i want to flash bootleggers. But if we can give pie lineageos it will be perfect.
Im cr droid user best rom ever:good:
And LineageOS if you want a basic ROM with quite good battery. I get three days out of mine - not stock levels but close enough for Oreo
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I think best rom is ResurrectionRemix and bootleggers. Those are perfect rom. I use rr but i want to flash bootleggers. But if we can give pie lineageos it will be perfect.
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A quick read of the RR thread and the last post says development has ended and I quote "Even though I wasn't able to fix many issues I've learnt quite a lot of things."
Well,that puts me off straight away.......many issues ?
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A quick read of the RR thread and the last post says development has ended and I quote "Even though I wasn't able to fix many issues I've learnt quite a lot of things."
Well,that puts me off straight away.......many issues ?
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I wasnt see problem. His probably write the wrong discussion.
Every os has its ups and downs. Try evrythng and see what works best for u. U might be a battery person or a guy who like customisation or outright performance. Or u just want something stable and light. I would suggest try lineage 16, aosp 6, rr 7 and Crdroid 5.2. One of these should satisfy you.
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Every os has its ups and downs. Try evrythng and see what works best for u. U might be a battery person or a guy who like customisation or outright performance. Or u just want something stable and light. I would suggest try lineage 16, aosp 6, rr 7 and Crdroid 5.2. One of these should satisfy you.
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Given this is my 1 and only phone and I also run a business off it I'm not looking to experiment with different roms.
I just want one that will work as well as stock.....including battery life.......but hopefully have more recent security patches.
I've heard android 9 sucks the life out of batteries so that would mean lineage 16 would not be suitable I guess.
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I've heard android 9 sucks the life out of batteries so that would mean lineage 16 would not be suitable I guess.
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Who told u that
Coz, AFA many users of P2 are concerned, including me, having the best battery out here. If you want to experience try Crdroid, its having so far pretty good SOT and with less or almost no bugs,which can prevent it from becoming a daily driver. :fingers-crossed:
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Coming from stock 7.0 and November 2017 security patch what ROM would you recommend that in the words of Apple fans 'just works' ?
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My suggestion would be to go through phases of upgrading;
Install a treble enabled TWRP that should be available in LOS 15 page.
Install LOS 15 for updating treble A only partition (check the whole process for that in LOS 15 page)
Then, install RR 7 of 3rd April for updating vendor partition to latest security patch (later versions have bugs)
Now, you are in a position to have a ROM of your choice, if you want a up-to-date ROM without many issues and minimal customization then opt for LOS 16 or Mokee Pie. If you want plenty of customization with stability then go for CrDroid Pie. If you want a ROM which is up-to-date and have plenty of customization then look for AEX Pie or Havoc 2.4 (13th April version as later versions of Havoc 2.4 are buggy). For rooting, you can use Magisk 19.0 without issues whereas, nano gApps work fine.
You will have to go through all this cycle before resorting to a ROM of your choice. However, when securing lock screen with fingerprint; don't opt for encrypting phone at start. Just select "NO" when asked otherwise phone camera and torch won't work.
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Who told u that
Coz, AFA many users of P2 are concerned, including me, having the best battery out here. If you want to experience try Crdroid, its having so far pretty good SOT and with less or almost no bugs,which can prevent it from becoming a daily driver. :fingers-crossed:
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https://venturebeat.com/2018/11/01/android-pie-has-a-battery-life-problem/
that's just 1 article,there's been loads of problems reported on different forums
Superior os is very similar to Cr droid
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I wasnt see problem. His probably write the wrong discussion.
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that was oreo resurrection remix not the pie version.
Hi
Does anyone know if there are any more custom roms for Mi 10T (apart from LOS 17.1 which has a thread in the forum)?
I'd really like to see PixelExperience for our devices. I hope we get it one day!
As far as I have seen in many telegram groups, devs are not that Interested in developing anything for this phone before a11 comes out as stable.
One guy did pixel experience plus, but without support, and when he got a warning in lineage os group because someone else posted about pe+ in wrong group, he deleted everything, so no pe+ for now.
All in all, don't ask them that question in telegram groups, you'll get countless whines about servers not being free (i was building roms on my 10years old pc, i don't know why they need servers), and it will end with "why don't you do it yourself".
Truth is, they have no clue - one of them can't build kernel for weeks now, so based on that I don't think we'll see any success with custom roms for this phone anytime soon...