Is there any rom that make the ZPlay runs in 64bits mode ? - Moto Z Play Questions & Answers

I'm trying to get Dolphin Emulator to work, but it wont install because the stock rom is running in 32bits mode, is there any way to change that ?

ZOMOX said:
I'm trying to get Dolphin Emulator to work, but it wont install because the stock rom is running in 32bits mode, is there any way to change that ?
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But it's an arm devices, how can it be possible to run 64 bits?

I too want to know if this is theoretically possible
Now it would not be faster or even slower on Cortex A53 someone said (If I understood that correctly), but it would be interesting to know if it theoretically works.
the LineageOS maintainer alberto has so far not expessed his oppinion on the matter: https://github.com/Alberto97/android_device_motorola_addison/issues/1

Yousvel said:
But it's an arm devices, how can it be possible to run 64 bits?
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what? ARM has 64bits mode and 32 too, It doesnt depends about being ARM or not. ZPlay Just have the ABIS of arm-v7a32bits, the cpu runs at 32 bits mode because the stock OS wasnt programmed to have the 64bits ABIS, i Just want to know If any rum or kernel makes It run att 64 bits mode.

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[DEV] Port Maemo / MeeGo

http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.0/core/images/meego-n900-open-armv7l/
My idea is to use the current effort to run Ubuntu/Debian on the phone as a method to get MeeGo running on the phone as well (Maemo should be similar). What we'd need to achieve is to get an .img of MeeGo/Maemo as we do Debian/Ubuntu. Driver issues (If present) should be rectifiable by porting over some of the Debian/Ubuntu ARM drivers.
abc27 said:
http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.0/core/images/meego-n900-open-armv7l/
My idea is to use the current effort to run Ubuntu/Debian on the phone as a method to get MeeGo running on the phone as well (Maemo should be similar). What we'd need to achieve is to get an .img of MeeGo/Maemo as we do Debian/Ubuntu. Driver issues (If present) should be rectifiable by porting over some of the Debian/Ubuntu ARM drivers.
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Great idea! I hope devs will start working on it!
abc27 said:
http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.0/core/images/meego-n900-open-armv7l/
My idea is to use the current effort to run Ubuntu/Debian on the phone as a method to get MeeGo running on the phone as well (Maemo should be similar). What we'd need to achieve is to get an .img of MeeGo/Maemo as we do Debian/Ubuntu. Driver issues (If present) should be rectifiable by porting over some of the Debian/Ubuntu ARM drivers.
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Great! Tell us when you're finished!
Looks like they made some progress, as the N1 Version is already avaible
http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/MSMQSD
Anyone working on this ?
d3sm0nd said:
Anyone working on this ?
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Even if someone is working on it, I don't think it'll be as simple as "Install Meego through update.zip in recovery". However I hope so

Android&Linux dual boot?

So ... I'd like to dual boot a normal linux on that tab.
My first problem is something like a boot loader that let me select wether to boot android or any other system (with touch capability and timeout ideally).
Some googling around didn't bring anything useful besides "it's highly dependent on the device".
Is there something like that out there? The alternative I thought of is to build something like the Ubuntu Phone boot app, but I have no idea how it works.
The next problem would be hardware support, but I will look at that issue later.
The chroot solution would be a fallback (I have to look deeper into, especially in terms of performance), but I'd prefer to have a real system.
hofmann.christian said:
So ... I'd like to dual boot a normal linux on that tab.
My first problem is something like a boot loader that let me select wether to boot android or any other system (with touch capability and timeout ideally).
Some googling around didn't bring anything useful besides "it's highly dependent on the device".
Is there something like that out there? The alternative I thought of is to build something like the Ubuntu Phone boot app, but I have no idea how it works.
The next problem would be hardware support, but I will look at that issue later.
The chroot solution would be a fallback (I have to look deeper into, especially in terms of performance), but I'd prefer to have a real system.
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Just to clarify which exact tab s fo you have, you say also you will look into the issue of hardware support later....this is the wrong order im sorry to say and many people will agree its the first thing u shud look at.....for example it has to be taken into account that your using an arm processor and u cant just use any linux distro on any arm processor e.g arm v5 is different architecture to armv7...meaning a new kernal needed that runs your linux and android...you really are going into waters way above even my head...start with porting cynogenmod completely from scratch...look st compiling your first real rom and you will learn A LOT and MAY begin to comprehend what your asking here....not meaning to sound god almighty but honestly this involves a lot of factors.
Well, I am aiming at arch and afaik there should be ARM versions for any relevant CPUs, so this is not that a big deal. GPU and the likes could be way worse.
Also: 8.4", not sure if there are different versions of these besides the storage capacity
hofmann.christian said:
Well, I am aiming at arch and afaik there should be ARM versions for any relevant CPUs, so this is not that a big deal. GPU and the likes could be way worse.
Also: 8.4", not sure if there are different versions of these besides the storage capacity
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Ok pal all you need to do then is create a kernal that will support both the android 4.4.2 and linux that youve custom built and taylored to your phones specs.
Heres a link to expanded info on linux and arm: http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/2n21i2/can_arm_chip_linux_servers_run_all_software_or/
Heres a link to building kernals : https://source.android.com/source/building-kernels.html
And heres a link to your specs something you WILL need : http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_s_8_4_lte-6435.php
Please keep me updated on this as if you put all the effort in needed then it would a nice self achievement...good luck m8.
pdolton2000 said:
Ok pal all you need to do then is create a kernal that will support both the android 4.4.2 and linux that youve custom built and taylored to your phones specs.
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I thought about that, too. But that may be especially hard on arch due to regular updates. It still may be possible and I will have a look at it, but I'd prefer multiple kernels to choose from.
Also: Does having one single kernel in any way help with the boot choice problem?
hofmann.christian said:
I thought about that, too. But that may be especially hard on arch due to regular updates. It still may be possible and I will have a look at it, but I'd prefer multiple kernels to choose from.
Also: Does having one single kernel in any way help with the boot choice problem?
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Well without one single kernal you cant boot anything...why go though making a bootloader to something when youve got nothing to boot yet? The bootloader is the easiest part its the rest thats the harder. Heres an example of bootloaders that shows its more than possible.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...droid&pcampaignid=APPU_3DrCVJj1A8vW7AaIu4HQDQ
And the designer is a member of XDA so i say again you first need to build kernal and linux that are compatible with your hardware....then contact this bloke who made MultiBoot and when he sees all the hard work you put in he will be more than happy to help you i should imagine.
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pdolton2000 said:
Well without one single kernal you cant boot anything...why go though making a bootloader to something when youve got nothing to boot yet? The bootloader is the easiest part its the rest thats the harder. Heres an example of bootloaders that shows its more than possible.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...droid&pcampaignid=APPU_3DrCVJj1A8vW7AaIu4HQDQ
And the designer is a member of XDA so i say again you first need to build kernal and linux that are compatible with your hardware....then contact this bloke who made MultiBoot and when he sees all the hard work you put in he will be more than happy to help you i should imagine.
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EDIT
If you wanted a quick way out of all that i can only suggest emulating linux on android...find an example here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...droid&pcampaignid=APPU_FT3CVObxNIOa7gbxwYDACg
Good luck anyway pal hope it goes to plan
It looks exactly like what I need. The screenshots are suggesting that regular linux distributions are running as well.
If this would be compatible with this device I'd stuff ALARM with an sshd on it and work my way from there.
hofmann.christian said:
It looks exactly like what I need. The screenshots are suggesting that regular linux distributions are running as well.
If this would be compatible with this device I'd stuff ALARM with an sshd on it and work my way from there.
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Haaa whats the chances, i only thought of that last minute, hope it works out man
pdolton2000 said:
Haaa whats the chances, i only thought of that last minute, hope it works out man
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Well, so I am back at the "I need a boot manager" square just with the information that there is something like this which just doesn't work for now.
hofmann.christian said:
Well, so I am back at the "I need a boot manager" square just with the information that there is something like this which just doesn't work for now.
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Sorry pal you want a boot manager to run this emulated version of linux? This works by emulating it inside android os? Or have i misunderstood?
pdolton2000 said:
Sorry pal you want a boot manager to run this emulated version of linux? This works by emulating it inside android os? Or have i misunderstood?
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Who said something about an emulated Version? I want a real full fledged Linux to dual boot on a tablet.
hofmann.christian said:
It looks exactly like what I need. The screenshots are suggesting that regular linux distributions are running as well.
If this would be compatible with this device I'd stuff ALARM with an sshd on it and work my way from there.
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Misunderstanding thought you were refuring to the edit i made just above this post im quoting in its original place.
Ok so you now no the idea of bootloaders exist and for them to work you need linux and a kernal ie an os otherwise theres nothing for it to boot, you need to compile a compatible kernal and lixux distro together thats going to work with your spec so then someone else can help you with the bootloader that will dual bot both it and android...otherwise your asking somebody to draw a design of a building and predict the levels of the foundations before the land itself exists which cannot be done.
Ive provided you research material in kernal design, the specs of your phone, about how linux and arm work together, ive provided you with a link to a bootloader exactly like what your after made by a member on xda whom u can see links to in the download of it to show that you have a place and a person to ask who specializes in the field once youve created what you want to dual boot with android.
Theres nothing more that can be done pal its all been made very clear.

Can't Install DuoS on my 8.1 Surface

So like the title says...I downloaded the official .exe file for DuoS and attempted to install it as a admin. And I get the generic this app will not run on your pc...any suggestions? ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLePEHpcyvE
I have followed the above video as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2092158
im have also run the jail break tool from the link above
Windows RT 8.1 cannot jailbreak yet. That jailbreak you use only working with Windows RT (8.0). After jailbreak you will need to use .exe that compile for using on ARM (not normal x86-64 for Intel, AMD CPU) or use Win86emu to run normal .exe with 1/10 CPU performance. And even we can jailbreak RT 8.1. I don't think DuoS can working on it.
oh wow ok so i assume that means at this point there is no way to run any android apps on the 8.1 RT?
eyesofice said:
oh wow ok so i assume that means at this point there is no way to run any android apps on the 8.1 RT?
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There is Bluestacks. You can downgrade WindowsRT to 8.0 if it's the original Surface RT.
black_blob said:
There is Bluestacks. You can downgrade WindowsRT to 8.0 if it's the original Surface RT.
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I don't think there is a version of Bluestacks compiled for ARM available yet. I could be wrong, but having RT 8.0 with the jailbreak still won't allow it to run x86 applications, and the currently available download of Bluestacks doesn't run on my Surface RT even with the jailbreak. There is rumor they maybe are working on an ARM release, but I don't know if that will be a desktop or store version. Probably the latter.
http://www.bluestacks.com/technology.html
If somebody has a link for an ARM version to download I'm all ears.
I think that they already released the store version
black_blob said:
I think that they already released the store version
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Not that I can find... searching the store all I find are guides to installing bluestacks, but not the actual application itself. I'd be happy to be proven wrong...

Windows 10 arm on Phone

Hello Guys,
I was just wondering if it would be theoretically possible to port the Windows 10 on ARM OS from a Laptop like the "Asus NovaGo TP370QL" which is using an snapdragon 835 to a phone like the Mi Mix 2 which is using the same SOC ??
I dont really know much about Operating Systems, but since it is the same SOC and a phone is nothing more than a Computer, there should be probably a chance to get it running right?
Im really interested in your thought!
xXPOLYGONXx said:
Hello Guys,
I was just wondering if it would be theoretically possible to port the Windows 10 on ARM OS from a Laptop like the "Asus NovaGo TP370QL" which is using an snapdragon 835 to a phone like the Mi Mix 2 which is using the same SOC ??
I dont really know much about Operating Systems, but since it is the same SOC and a phone is nothing more than a Computer, there should be probably a chance to get it running right?
Im really interested in your thought!
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Don't think it's possible. This version of the Snapdragon 835 is customized to run on Windows 10 on ARM, which is also customized to run on ARM. And if it's possible, it'll take hella lot of work I think.
Hi it's available for mi4 : http://en.miui.com/thread-189556-1-1.html
But I don't know if one day this can be available on mi mix 2 :/
palexis06 said:
Hi it's available for mi4 : http://en.miui.com/thread-189556-1-1.html
But I don't know if one day this can be available on mi mix 2 :/
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This was an exclusice deal between Xiami and Microsoft back then. I don't think this will ever come to any other Xiaomi device as it was Win10 mobile, which is dead.
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Don't think it's possible. This version of the Snapdragon 835 is customized to run on Windows 10 on ARM, which is also customized to run on ARM. And if it's possible, it'll take hella lot of work I think.
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Would be nice though using a full windows 10 installation on the go.
Probably that was something microsoft was aiming for when they brought windows 10 mobile to the Mi 4....
Eventhough the installation, drivers, etc probably doesnt work, would a bootloader like TWRP be able to boot the arm iso of windows?
xXPOLYGONXx said:
Would be nice though using a full windows 10 installation on the go.
Probably that was something microsoft was aiming for when they brought windows 10 mobile to the Mi 4....
Eventhough the installation, drivers, etc probably doesnt work, would a bootloader like TWRP be able to boot the arm iso of windows?
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TWRP isn't a bootloader, it's a recovery. But you're right, TWRP would probably be able to INSTALL the image, but it wouldn't work.
Thanks for your opinion on this topic
I think i ll read some more about making your own rom for a device and probably try it out on my phone.
But i have no great hope for even getting to boot the iso ^^
(I should probably wait for Microsoft to publish a mobile OS again before I brick my phone )
xXPOLYGONXx said:
Thanks for your opinion on this topic
I think i ll read some more about making your own rom for a device and probably try it out on my phone.
But i have no great hope for even getting to boot the iso ^^
(I should probably wait for Microsoft to publish a mobile OS again before I brick my phone )
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You're welcome And better don't even try installing the iso as you might really brick your phone

Question Dual booting Windows 11 or running virtualized

Hi all,
As we know MS has released and has been maintaining an ARM version of Windows for a while now, I was curious if anyone knew if it was possible to dual boot the ARM version? If dual booting isn't an option, what would be the best way to run it? I'm not worried about performance as such, as it's not something I plan to really use until KVM is supported for more than the pixel anyway, I was purely looking to test and see how it would look on such a device.
Any recommendations would be appreciated.
Dual booting is 99.999% won't work - the ARM image maintained by Microsoft is incredibly limited and lacks a lot of drivers, drivers that one would need to write from scratch, since they don't exist for Windows.
Virtualizing it would be possible on Android 13's new built in emulation stack, but you'd still need to root the phone for that, and beyond losing warranty in many places, you'd also lose access to a number of functions.
Has anybody on the Android 13/OneUi 5 Beta managed to root their device and try if the KVM feature works on the Z Fold 4?

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