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So I'm receiving a N3 as a gift from China but it's the N5207 and I live in the US with AT&T.
From my understanding AT&T, uses band 4 (1700+2100) and band 17 (700) but the Oppo N3 only has 1700 (without 2100) as seen on the back of this box from:
Is it possible to unlock the band 4 via this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/guide-unlock-aditional-bands-qualcomm-t2877031
I'd figure they would since OPO and OPPO are kinda the same company but here the community manager explicitly states that the different version of the R5 are hardware differences in the bands:
http://www.oppoforums.com/threads/f...ency-bands-comparison-between-find-7’s.11921/
Maybe it's a bit late... But have you tried OppoTools?
There are a small amount of phones that have band 12 support through updates. Their respective specifications usually don't include band 12 support, though looking around states band 12 support can be enabled via an update.
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Currently, the zenfone 2 states no band 12 support. Is there any way of looking into the phone itself to see if it has band 12 capabilities? Crossing my fingers for this, as this phone is super slick and powerful for an awesome price, and as a T-mobile user, lack of band 12 support is the only thing holding this phone back from purchase. most current band 12 capable phones are either lackluster in features, or too expensive.
unvaluablespace said:
There are a small amount of phones that have band 12 support through updates. Their respective specifications usually don't include band 12 support, though looking around states band 12 support can be enabled via an update.
way t
Currently, the zenfone 2 states no band 12 support. Is there any way of looking into the phone itself to see if it has band 12 capabilities? Crossing my fingers for this, as this phone is super slick and powerful for an awesome price, and as a T-mobile user, lack of band 12 support is the only thing holding this phone back from purchase. most current band 12 capable phones are either lackluster in features, or too expensive.
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Hey! Are you in an area that doesn't support T-Mobile 1700/2100 MHz AWS (band 4)?
I think i read somewhere on the tmobile forum, they use main band 4 and 2 being implemented.
Zenfone 2 supports both, I just got mine US version today and the LTE is working for me.
Please see the ZenFone 2 support band list - http://www.asus.com/us/support/FAQ/1011352/
USA T-MOBILE FREQUENCY: BAND 2 (1900MHZ), BAND 4 (1700/2100 MHZ), BAND 12 (700 MHZ)
USA T-MOBILE NETWORK FAQS - https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
USA T-MOBILE CUSTOMER SERVICE - 877-746-0909
ZenFone Quick Service - http://www.asus.com/us/support/self-service/11/
FAQ: http://www.asus.com/us/Phones/ZenFone_2_ZE551ML/HelpDesk_knowledge/
Sincerely,
ASUS_USA
cocopwr said:
Hey! Are you in an area that doesn't support T-Mobile 1700/2100 MHz AWS (band 4)?
I think i read somewhere on the tmobile forum, they use main band 4 and 2 being implemented.
Zenfone 2 supports both, I just got mine US version today and the LTE is working for me.
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i live and travel between stockton, CA; Sacramento, CA; and Tracy, CA. signal is OK for the most part, though in some areas it leaves a bit to be desired. Currently using a Nexus 5. Through the LTE discovery app I know my phone typically picks up band 4. not sure about band 2. There are some indoor areas like buildings that aren't all that great on tmobile in my area. my local best buy for instance instantly drops to low signal the second i step in the store, even though right outside is full bars. driving along the freeway in certain areas deem little to now signal sometimes as well.
I'm not here to complain about my tmobile service. Just trying to ensure future proofing of my phone purchase hoping that band 12 would improve those situations.
Asus_USA said:
Please see the ZenFone 2 support band list - http://www.asus.com/us/support/FAQ/1011352/
USA T-MOBILE FREQUENCY: BAND 2 (1900MHZ), BAND 4 (1700/2100 MHZ), BAND 12 (700 MHZ)
USA T-MOBILE NETWORK FAQS - https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
USA T-MOBILE CUSTOMER SERVICE - 877-746-0909
ZenFone Quick Service - http://www.asus.com/us/support/self-service/11/
FAQ: http://www.asus.com/us/Phones/ZenFone_2_ZE551ML/HelpDesk_knowledge/
Sincerely,
ASUS_USA
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If your a legitimate Asus rep, then that is a bummer the lack of band 12 support. I've already been to those pages and checked again. I just wanted to see if band 12 was possibly hidden somehow, as it seemed to be the case with a 2-3 other handsets since theyre only activated via software updates.
Thanks for the replying.
I am confused, it looks like the USA version does do Band 12
see below bolded:
USA T-MOBILE FREQUENCY: BAND 2 (1900MHZ), BAND 4 (1700/2100 MHZ), BAND 12 (700 MHZ)
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I am confused, it looks like the USA version does do Band 12
see below bolded:
USA T-MOBILE FREQUENCY: BAND 2 (1900MHZ), BAND 4 (1700/2100 MHZ), BAND 12 (700 MHZ)
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Nah man, he/she is just stating those are the frequencies T-Mobile operate on, not frequencies of Zenfone 2 itself. See the link right above it for the zenfone 2 supported band list.
That would be nice though. I've already read several sites stating that it does not support band 12. The point of my post was to find out if there was any way to find out on the device itself (via owners of a Zenfone 2) to see if it was somehow hidden in there. Specs for the Galaxy Avant, Xperia X3, and the ZTE Zmax I don't think initially listed band 12 support in their specs, but now supposedly they will have it enabled via their respective software updates. I was crossing my fingers hoping a similar thing would happen with the Zenfone 2.
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The point of my post was to find out if there was any way to find out on the device itself (via owners of a Zenfone 2) to see if it was somehow hidden in there.
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Clearly the phone itself supports the 700 freq (Band 17) which is also where Band 12 operates. Does that require a hardware change? I dunno.
http://www.tmonews.com/2015/03/t-mobile-could-gain-from-atts-band-17-and-band-12-lte-network-interoperating/
US variant of ZE551ML does support Band 12. The LTE Discovery app revealed I was on Band 12 while using the T-Mobile service in Rancho Cucamonga, California. Going east from there, I was on Band 4 or 2, but then again, T-Mobile's rollout is just starting in Southern California.
That's really interesting Armchair. Band 12 is NOT listed anywhere in Asus' specs. I wonder if the latest OTA update kicked it in? Do you know what firmware you're running? B12 support is the only thing holding me back from the Zfone.
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That's really interesting Armchair. Band 12 is NOT listed anywhere in Asus' specs. I wonder if the latest OTA update kicked it in? Do you know what firmware you're running? B12 support is the only thing holding me back from the Zfone.
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It's really great news either ways, the last 551 update was mostly US stuff.
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RealSkier said:
That's really interesting Armchair. Band 12 is NOT listed anywhere in Asus' specs. I wonder if the latest OTA update kicked it in? Do you know what firmware you're running? B12 support is the only thing holding me back from the Zfone.
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When I bought the phone from Amazon on June 25, 2015, Band 12 was listed in the US spec. Otherwise I would not have bought it at all because I wanted that availability. Now that I go back to the Amazon product page to get a screenshot, I see the entry has been altered to remove Band 12. However, today I'll make a trip to Rancho Cucamonga (not far from me, really), and screenshot the LTE Discovery screen when it shows the phone connecting to Band 12. (Pics or GTFO, right? )
Box Codes:
ZE551ML, BLACK, LTE,D
INTEL MRF Z3580(2.3Ghz),4G,64GB EMMC
ANDROID US,5.5" 5M/13M,N/A
Other notes of reference: When the phone arrived, the firmware was WW 2.18.40.12. I OTA updated to 2.19.40.18 then rooted (using Method 3) and unlocked the bootloader. Did not remove any system apps nor install any custom recovery. I have OTA updated twice since then, keeping root and unlocked bootloader. Currently at WW 2.19.40.22, under which I can connect to Band 12 towers. Did not tinker with the telephony settings or make any other unauthorized changes other than rooting and unlocking the bootloader.
So Asus snuck in support for Band 12 in a firmware update? Very nice Asus. Very nice indeed.
ArmchairWizard said:
When I bought the phone from Amazon on June 25, 2015, Band 12 was listed in the US spec. Otherwise I would not have bought it at all because I wanted that availability. Now that I go back to the Amazon product page to get a screenshot, I see the entry has been altered to remove Band 12. However, today I'll make a trip to Rancho Cucamonga (not far from me, really), and screenshot the LTE Discovery screen when it shows the phone connecting to Band 12. (Pics or GTFO, right? )
Box Codes:
ZE551ML, BLACK, LTE,D
INTEL MRF Z3580(2.3Ghz),4G,64GB EMMC
ANDROID US,5.5" 5M/13M,N/A
Other notes of reference: When the phone arrived, the firmware was WW 2.18.40.12. I OTA updated to 2.19.40.18 then rooted (using Method 3) and unlocked the bootloader. Did not remove any system apps nor install any custom recovery. I have OTA updated twice since then, keeping root and unlocked bootloader. Currently at WW 2.19.40.22, under which I can connect to Band 12 towers. Did not tinker with the telephony settings or make any other unauthorized changes other than rooting and unlocking the bootloader.
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Screenshot taken near the intersection of Foothill Blvd & I-15 in California. LTE Discovery app showing connected to T-Mobile on a Band 12 tower using the ZenFone 2 (ASUS_Z00AD).
I've asked both TMO & Asus for confirmation. TMO basically said since it's not "native" it's not something they can confirm as working or not. Asus has yet to respond to my query period.
UPDATE: Got a reply from Asus. AsusUSA support on Twitter said they are unable to find any substantial data to verify Band 12 support for TMO.
UPDATE -- Official reply from ASUS
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So Asus snuck in support for Band 12 in a firmware update? Very nice Asus. Very nice indeed.
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Thank you for contacting ASUS Customer Loyalty. Currently there is no support for this band and no confirmation if it will be added in the future.
I believe it is limited in the hardware. Unfortunately it's not supported.
So looks no Zenfone 2 for me any time soon. What an OTA unsupported update can give, it can also take away.
ArmchairWizard said:
Screenshot taken near the intersection of Foothill Blvd & I-15 in California. LTE Discovery app showing connected to T-Mobile on a Band 12 tower using the ZenFone 2 (ASUS_Z00AD).
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Are you still able to connect on band 12 with newer firmware? I haven't seen a single one yet and have definitely been in known-deployed areas.
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ziddey said:
Are you still able to connect on band 12 with newer firmware? I haven't seen a single one yet and have definitely been in known-deployed areas.
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On .90 I was able to connect to B12 in the same spot as before as well as other locations around Rancho Cucamonga but I didn't take a screenshot of the LTE Discovery app for proof as a few threads here and in other forums have made it clear that T-Mobile will not support B12 on non-branded (read: noncustomized firmware) phones. Since then, the display has developed the infamous lines and fading issues as recorded by others and I have RMA'd the phone. Using a branded burner phone until all is resolved.
Damn looks like the issue is lack of support for volte.
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ziddey said:
Damn looks like the issue is lack of support for volte.
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So the repaired phone has returned to me and I've regained my stride. (Physical part was replaced and not a word about the unlocked bootloader.) Went back to that intersection today and took a screenshot of LTE Discovery just for you.
Firmware: WW 2.20.40.97
Rooted & bootloader unlocked.
No other modifications.
So I see that the OnePlus 3 is listed as supporting Band 12 LTE and it looks like the OnePlus 2 did as well (this would be my first OP device). From what I saw though, the OP2 did not support VOLTE on T-Mobile at launch. How did Band 12 support work then, since I believe T-Mobile requires devices to support VOLTE to use Band 12? And does the OP3 support both?
Yes it does support both
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So I see that the OnePlus 3 is listed as supporting Band 12 LTE and it looks like the OnePlus 2 did as well (this would be my first OP device). From what I saw though, the OP2 did not support VOLTE on T-Mobile at launch. How did Band 12 support work then, since I believe T-Mobile requires devices to support VOLTE to use Band 12? And does the OP3 support both?
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Since the Oneplus 3 is an unlocked phone and T-Mobile is one of several carriers that uses Band 12, they can't force Oneplus to disable/remove Band 12 from the phone, so Band 12 will be supported.
Additionally, per the recent AMA thread from Oneplus, the phone is capable of voLTE.
However, what T-Mobile CAN (and almost certainly will) do is prevent the Oneplus Three from being registered as a supported voLTE device on their network until Oneplus completes their costly/time-consuming voLTE certification.
What this basically means is that until OnePlus jumps through T-Mobile's certification hoops, we'll be able to use Band 12 for data, but as soon as we make/receive a call, we'll be kicked down to H or H+ (assuming we have the coverage).
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Since the Oneplus 3 is an unlocked phone and T-Mobile is one of several carriers that uses Band 12, they can't force Oneplus to disable/remove Band 12 from the phone, so Band 12 will be supported.
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While I understand that they can't force it, the US models of the Nexus 5x and Moto X Pure launched with Band 12 disabled and only received it in a later update.
raptir said:
While I understand that they can't force it, the US models of the Nexus 5x and Moto X Pure launched with Band 12 disabled and only received it in a later update.
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The Oneplus 2 was reported to have worked on Band 12 the way I previously mentioned more than a month before the Nexus 5X's release date, and Oneplus still lists Band 12 support for the North American Oneplus 3 on their website.
T-Mobile was also happy to sell you the T-Mobile version of the 5X which was certified for band 12.
Additionally, Band 12 is not as much of a T-Mobile monopoly as it was last year. AT&T just started transitioning to Band 12 last fall, announcing in their status update report to the FCC early last October “many of our devices have been sold with Band 12 filters and can be upgraded via software to support Band 12. We will begin the process of transitioning to Band 12 late in 2015 and / or early 2016.”
All things considered, it would make no sense for Oneplus to disable Band 12 this year.
Hi!
I have and USA Pixel 6 Pro (G8VOU) that I use only in Europe.
Which factory image should I flash between .A1 (global) and .A4 (EMEA Carrier)??
Thanksss
The US Pixel 6 variant has an extra mmWave antenna, I don't know of anyone that installed the European version (A4) on top of a US Pixel 6 (European Pixels do NOT have the mmWave antenna). It might cause problems, it might not matter. If you want to stay safe, going for the international A1 global variant might be a good call, but that one might cause reception problems in Europe (as many have reported since the December patch).
It might be also worth a try to install the US version, since that one is made for your device, and basic reception should always work. Mind though, that in case you need to switch between versions, it will probably require a factory reset.
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The US Pixel 6 variant has an extra mmWave antenna, I don't know of anyone that installed the European version (A4) on top of a US Pixel 6 (European Pixels do NOT have the mmWave antenna). It might cause problems, it might not matter. If you want to stay safe, going for the international A1 global variant might be a good call, but that one might cause reception problems in Europe (as many have reported since the December patch).
It might be also worth a try to install the US version, since that one is made for your device, and basic reception should always work. Mind though, that in case you need to switch between versions, it will probably require a factory reset.
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I took your advice and flashed A1 global rom.
Zero issue and good signal reception.
Morgrain said:
The US Pixel 6 variant has an extra mmWave antenna, I don't know of anyone that installed the European version (A4) on top of a US Pixel 6 (European Pixels do NOT have the mmWave antenna). It might cause problems, it might not matter. If you want to stay safe, going for the international A1 global variant might be a good call, but that one might cause reception problems in Europe (as many have reported since the December patch).
It might be also worth a try to install the US version, since that one is made for your device, and basic reception should always work. Mind though, that in case you need to switch between versions, it will probably require a factory reset.
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Edit: that is some excellent advice!
5G Sub 6GHz]15 Model GLUOG
GSM/EDGE: Quad-band (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+/HSDPA: Bands 1,2,4,5,6,8,19
LTE: Bands B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/13/14/17/18/19/20/25/26/28/29/30/32/38/39/40/41/42/46/48/66/71
5G Sub-615: Bands n1/2/3/5/7/8/12/14/20/25/28/30/38/40/41/48/66/71/77/78
eSIM
[5G mmWave + Sub 6GHz]15 Model G8VOU
GSM/EDGE: Quad-band (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+/HSDPA: Bands 1,2,4,5,6,8,19
LTE: Bands B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/13/14/17/18/19/20/25/26/28/29/30/32/38/39/40/41/42/46/48/66/71
5G Sub-615: Bands n1/2/3/5/7/8/12/14/20/25/28/30/38/40/41/48/66/71/77/78
5G mmWave15: Bands n257/n258/n260/n261
eSIM
[5G mmWave + Sub 6GHz JP2] Model GF5KQ
GSM/EDGE: Quad-band (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+/HSDPA: Bands 1,2,4,5,6,8,19
LTE: Bands B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/13/14/17/18/19/20/25/26/28/29/30/32/38/39/40/41/42/46/48/66/71
5G Sub-615: Bands n1/2/3/5/7/8/12/14/20/25/28/30/38/40/41/48/66/71/77/78
5G mmWave15: Bands n257/n258/n260/n261
eSIM
FeliCa
I didnt think the eu pixel 6 pro had a mm wave antenna
MArtyChubbs said:
To clarify, you're referring to the Pixel 6 not the pixel 6 pro. The Pixel 6 pro is the exact same hardware no matter where it was purchased from. The different builds just tune the radio for the region your carrier provides service.
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I'm wondering if that's accurate. There are three variants of the P6P (all of which should accept any of the official firmware builds). From Learn which Pixel phones can work with which kinds of 5G, there are:
G8VOU (AU, US)
GLUOG (CA, DE, FR, GB, IE, TW)
GF5KQ (JP)
Of those three, only the G8VOU (AU, US) and GF5KQ (JP) work with both mmWave & Sub-6. Why would they have different model numbers if there's no hardware difference?
Great point and I'm curious too. I'm referencing an article I read describing the differences in the pixel 6 versions. In that article they said the Pixel 6 pro was the same and didn't differentiate hardware. Now I got to find that article. So I'll update my comments with the correction when I get a definitive answer.
Great point and I'm curious too. I'm referencing an article I read describing the differences in
roirraW edor ehT said:
I'm wondering if that's accurate. There are three variants of the P6P (all of which should accept any of the official firmware builds). From Learn which Pixel phones can work with which kinds of 5G, there are:
G8VOU (AU, US)
GLUOG (CA, DE, FR, GB, IE, TW)
GF5KQ (JP)
Of those three, only the G8VOU (AU, US) and GF5KQ (JP) work with both mmWave & Sub-6. Why would they have different model numbers if there's no hardware difference?
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You are correct. I was referring to a pre-release article that obviously wasn't accurate...And I remembered it wrong.
There is a hardware difference. As mentioned, the non mmWave country versions lack the dedicated antenna.
04:00 minute marks shows the international version without the antenna.
02:50 shows the US Variant, with the dedicated antenna and an attached cable
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-6-tmobile-5g/
December 15, 2021 10:45am Corbin Davenport
Google Pixel 6 now ready for T-Mobile’s 5G band aggregationThe Google Pixel 6 and 6 Pro are currently the only phones with a Google’s Tensor chip, which doesn’t always behave like hardware from Qualcomm or MediaTek. That’s a problem in some cases, such as the current incompatibility with DJI drones and cameras and varying support for carrier features. Thankfully, one possible disadvantage for Pixel 6 owners on T-Mobile has just been addressed.
The T-Mobile network in the United States has been testing low-to-mid-band aggregation for 5G, using the N41 and N71 bands, which should increase bandwidth for data connections. T-Mobile already does this for its LTE connections, using bands 2, 4, 12, 66, and 71. The company also confirmed that 5G aggregation will be enabled for the iPhone 13 “by the end of this year,” and other phones will be added to the list later.
Most phones with the Snapdragon 888 chipset already have software support for 5G aggregation, ready for whenever T-Mobile flips the switch, but the Pixel 6 series with its Exynos 5123b modem did not include support. That’s now changing, as a new modem log from the Pixel 6 published on 4G/5G Bands & Combos includes a new aggregation combination for N71 and N41, which was not present in earlier logs generated from the Pixel 6 series (via Android Police). The new abilities appear to have arrived as part of the recent December Feature Drop update.
The Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro are now ready for 5G carrier aggregation support on T-Mobile, but the carrier still has to enable support on its network. There’s no timeline for when that could happen — as mentioned previously, the iPhone 13 will get aggregation first, with other devices coming later.
If you’re thinking of buying a Pixel 6 or Pixel 6 Pro, check out our detailed Pixel 6 Pro review for why we think the Pro is an excellent option for a smartphone. We also have a dedicated Pixel 6 Pro Camera Review with more photo and video samples.
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Nice! Hopefully this will roll out this year.
I've seen a few n71-n41 sites around Long Island, but only the ones with 100 MHz of n41.
Additional 5G aggregation combos were included in January. Less useful since they require B46 (LAA).