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On paper (or browser) the Z1 Compact looks almost perfect for me. I'm a normal sized person, so the S5, HTC One M8, LG G3 and OnePlus One are a bit wide for comfortable one-handed use. I don't care about the reduced resolution; there's still plenty there. But... no 700MHz band, so no LTE on AT&T.
I'm on Verizon (which I despise) currently, and will switch off it. Does this phone work well with LTE on T-Mobile, and has T-Mobile's suckage reduced enough for it to be a usable carrier now, or should I stick to a phone that will work well with AT&T? (And if you think it's worth T-Mobile, how much and where has your T-Mobile experience been?)
If you ask me this strongly depends on which region you live in.
So I dont know if anybody can help you in an international forum.
For me LTE works like a charm but I live in Germany so....
Wotta said:
I'm on Verizon (which I despise) currently, and will switch off it. Does this phone work well with LTE on T-Mobile, and has T-Mobile's suckage reduced enough for it to be a usable carrier now, or should I stick to a phone that will work well with AT&T? (And if you think it's worth T-Mobile, how much and where has your T-Mobile experience been?)
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i switched from verizon to t-mobile in philly when i got this phone. 4g works fine. also, there's an internet-only $30/month unlimited data and text with 100 minutes plan: you'll have to order an activation kit from the t-mobile website.
Wotta said:
On paper (or browser) the Z1 Compact looks almost perfect for me. I'm a normal sized person, so the S5, HTC One M8, LG G3 and OnePlus One are a bit wide for comfortable one-handed use. I don't care about the reduced resolution; there's still plenty there. But... no 700MHz band, so no LTE on AT&T.
I'm on Verizon (which I despise) currently, and will switch off it. Does this phone work well with LTE on T-Mobile, and has T-Mobile's suckage reduced enough for it to be a usable carrier now, or should I stick to a phone that will work well with AT&T? (And if you think it's worth T-Mobile, how much and where has your T-Mobile experience been?)
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I've been using this phone on T-Mobile for about 5 months now. LTE works fine, but H+ is adequate for my needs so LTE is switched off most of the time. As far as the T-Mobile network, coverage around populated areas has been fine. However, once you get out in the un-populated areas, coverage often drops to 2G or nothing at all. Verizon is superior in this regard. For me, it's not a huge deal and I'll take the $ savings over coverage everywhere. But if coverage outside of the cities is important to you, then I would not recommend T-Mobile.
A better question would be: Is T-Mobile worthy of being on the awesome Xperia Z1 Compact?
Hey guys,
So I'm 95% sold on picking up a 32gb Xiaomi.
Coming from a Huawei Mate 2 6.1"
I'm looking for opinions from strictly US customers running this beast here.
I know I won't get LTE, but I'm wanting to hear if you REALLY notice a difference in either speed or coverage.
I don't do any heavy downloading or gaming off Wi-Fi, but if speed and especially coverage are jacked up, I'll have to look at a different phone because I do a ton of business on it.
Thanks in advance,
Jack
zx7rou812 said:
Hey guys,
So I'm 95% sold on picking up a 32gb Xiaomi.
Coming from a Huawei Mate 2 6.1"
I'm looking for opinions from strictly US customers running this beast here.
I know I won't get LTE, but I'm wanting to hear if you REALLY notice a difference in either speed or coverage.
I don't do any heavy downloading or gaming off Wi-Fi, but if speed and especially coverage are jacked up, I'll have to look at a different phone because I do a ton of business on it.
Thanks in advance,
Jack
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I do a lot of business on mine as well and have never had an issue. 3G is plenty fast for me (I have T-Mobile so it's HSPA+) I wouldn't worry about that.
I use it with Straight Talk on ATT network traveling all over the east half of the US 99% of my time and I can assure you exept couple of times in very rural mountain/country areas away from major highways when signal dropped to 2G, 3G is solid with speeds sometimes even better than LTE we have in US which is way overrated. I don't fill any difference coverage and speed wize from my previous Samsung Note 3 with LTE. You won't have any problems on ATT network with this phone.
Ditto on t-mobile and traveled to Canada. Maybe 2-3 times of signal loss
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Rural reception ?
Is the rural reception any good? I live in West Virginia and use straight talk/at&t on my note 3 and my biggest battery drain is the spotty reception here. I love my note 3 but it's locked bootloader has it at the end of its software life. I was considering a used oneplus 3 but for me the lack of micro sd was a deal breaker. The mi max has a bigger screen,micro sd card and a bigger battery looks like a winner so far what you guy's think?
I just got my Mi Max, and I use it on at&t. I haven' t noticed any issues, other than the lack of LTE.
I love the Max. It works great on VZW and Tmobs. Of course no LTE which is fine. I'm on WiFi most of the time anyhow. This thing is killer. Love the size and the battery is best!!
I just ordered a Mi Mix, so look for this bad boy on Swappa soon.
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Hi Guys,
Did you have to order the "Global" version of the phone? Or will any of them work? Or can I just get a non-global phone and flash the global rom? I am not looking to root or mess with it too much. Just want basic Google Play Service support.
Thanks,
Thinking about this as my next possible upgrade, been with a Note 3 for about 3ish 4 years it feels like. After the bootloader got unlocked I had few reasons to upgrade. Now however the hardware is getting dated and this looks like a viable upgrade. Would this phone work on Verizon's LTE network at full speeds, I am assuming there will eventually be a CyanogenMod released for this and then all I would need to do is unlock it?
Don't count on it
It's sadly not that simple from looking into it for the Mi5... However if they make great progress with the Mi5 there could be hope for this device as well since the 820 and 821 have few differences (or none? just an OC?).
The Mi5 is able to make calls and text at the moment but the LTE is still a bit unstable. If this looks like it will get enough support I might choose it over the Pixel XL. And if it works on Verizon since I still have my unlimited data plan.
I'd like to see B2, B4 and B12 LTE bands unlockable. I'm guessing monitoring progress on the mi5 is the right move since they have similar hardware profile.
Hopefully the chip can support the bands, otherwise it's another great phone that wont see it's potential in the us/eu market.
I got the phone 3 days ago ....
I love the design, the Concept .... Hardware seems solid ... very fast and responsive .... faster than my Note 7.
However I have a big issue ....... *(
Even though on the official ASUS webpage it says the phone supports LTE Band 12, 700MHz for T mobile, the phone refuses to see and connect to anything else except Band 4, 2100MHz.
I live in an area where Band 4 LTE sucks ..... I dont live in the City ...
LTE Coverage seems to suck for me at the moment ....
On top of the LTE issues ..... It seems that this phone does not get very good cell signal for making phone calls ....*(
All metal design ??
Any thoughts on the LTE issues ??
You may need to bring this up to support and find out what is going on with it (otherwise t-mobile). I have metor pcs, and i know that goes with t-mobile, just might be certain bands not connecting to it.
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OK .... so after further testing and use of the phone, I have verified that the phone does connect to ALL of the T-mobile LTE bands ...... both 4 & 12.
But the phone it self seems to have Terrible signal / reception ....... *(
I have been carting around with me 2 phones ...... this phone and the Note 5.
it seems that this phone is just having a very hard time holding a good solid LTE connection.
Not even good enough for a Messenger call or Whatssapp call ...... *(
when the Note 5 had great LTE, this phone couldn't even hold a connection long enough for a 30 second Whatssapp call.
its very frustrating ........
I think it has to do with the all metal body of the phone.....
Any input ??
Are their tmobile APN settings the same?
Do you have a case on it?
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OK .... so after further testing and use of the phone, I have verified that the phone does connect to ALL of the T-mobile LTE bands ...... both 4 & 12.
But the phone it self seems to have Terrible signal / reception ....... *(
I have been carting around with me 2 phones ...... this phone and the Note 5.
it seems that this phone is just having a very hard time holding a good solid LTE connection.
Not even good enough for a Messenger call or Whatssapp call ...... *(
when the Note 5 had great LTE, this phone couldn't even hold a connection long enough for a 30 second Whatssapp call.
its very frustrating ........
I think it has to do with the all metal body of the phone.....
Any input ??
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Yes, I believe you are right. I don't own this phone, but thought I'd give my two cents.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTsg7EyYKFM
Yes, this is not your phone, it's the ZTE Axon 7. Watch from around the 4 minute mark. Much loike the Zenfone Deluxe 3, the mostly all-aluminum body without much field testing is always going to be a drawback for wifi strength and certain radio frequencies on LTE.
The Axon 7 is arguably more plastic than the Zenfone 3 Deluxe (at the top and bottom at least) meaning there should actually be incremental differences for the ability to hold a frequency with good strength in the favour of the Axon 7, however it's receiving a few poor real-world reviews for those who have bothered to test. From that assumption, the more 'sleek' all-aluminum body of the ZD3 is going to have the same problems, so its no surprise that you are reporting it.
I'm considering getting this phone up against the LG v20 H990DS dual sim. But Wifi strength and reliability on 4G LTE is a huge considersation, as it's really a basic expectation of any flasgship - dont bother making a phone of all-alluminum if the drawback is poor performance. This is why the design of the v20 is 10x better, for instance.
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roosta said:
Yes, I believe you are right. I don't own this phone, but thought I'd give my two cents.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTsg7EyYKFM
Yes, this is not your phone, it's the ZTE Axon 7. Watch from around the 4 minute mark. Much loike the Zenfone Deluxe 3, the mostly all-aluminum body without much field testing is always going to be a drawback for wifi strength and certain radio frequencies on LTE.
The Axon 7 is arguably more plastic than the Zenfone 3 Deluxe (at the top and bottom at least) meaning there should actually be incremental differences for the ability to hold a frequency with good strength in the favour of the Axon 7, however it's receiving a few poor real-world reviews for those who have bothered to test. From that assumption, the more 'sleek' all-aluminum body of the ZD3 is going to have the same problems, so its no surprise that you are reporting it.
I'm considering getting this phone up against the LG v20 H990DS dual sim. But Wifi strength and reliability on 4G LTE is a huge considersation, as it's really a basic expectation of any flasgship - dont bother making a phone of all-alluminum if the drawback is poor performance. This is why the design of the v20 is 10x better, for instance.
RoOSTA
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I can assure you all just based on the quality of the display compared to the V20 this phone is a thousand times better. The blues are very apparent on the V20 and side by side it doesn't even come close. The V20 just looks awful. If you're browsing webpages and playing games I'd much rather do it on the Zenfone. I wonder what it's like up against one of the newer Samsung's. Maybe I'll test it out, but the sales people in most stores are so pushy to help and get in your way. Some people really need to learn the best way to a sale isn't by being pushy but feeling out your customer.
I think people's mileage is going to vary on signal strength. I noticed identical WiFi strength between this phone and the Moto G4 I have. I often get poor signal at work and this phone drops signal way less. I haven't really tested out LTE other than to check that it works and I get the same number of bars as the G4 in my house.
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I can assure you all just based on the quality of the display compared to the V20 this phone is a thousand times better. The blues are very apparent on the V20 and side by side it doesn't even come close. The V20 just looks awful. If you're browsing webpages and playing games I'd much rather do it on the Zenfone.
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AmOled wins every day over IPS, however limiting the display to 1080p on a flagship is... so 2014. You can get the V20 with same screen size and bigger battery. On top of that, it's removable. The best feature is repairability. Take off the back cover, 20 small screws and it's easy to lift out the plastic cover, motherboard cameras and screen with ease. Even the 3.5mm jack pops off easily. It's one of the last flasgships yo keep the FM radio and have a more than useful IR blaster.
Zenfone doesn't even advertise Nfc despite some deluxe owners saying their phone had it, but in a very awkward position. I can see you have a preference but I find it hard for there to be any comparison. Comes down to your requirements in the end.
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AmOled wins every day over IPS, however limiting the display to 1080p on a flagship is... so 2014.
RoOSTA
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Same can be said with putting an IPS display in a flagship phone. They chose 1080p vs 1440p because it's a well known fact 1080p gets better battery life. Put the phone side by side and pull up the same webpage and the text has the same clarity as the V20. Many will say the eyes can't tell the difference. Resolution aside, I can't express how much better the screen is than the V20. The phone is also lighter and smaller because it doesn't have the secondary display. At the end of the day, the Verizon's store rep owned the V20 and we both laughed at how awful the display on V20 looked compared to this phone.
Bottom line it's nice to have a removable battery, but it's the screen you look at most. I'd rather have a phone with the better display.
There's tonnes of IPS still used in non-amoled flagships. 1080 p does in fact get a better battery life, probably why LG increased the battery capacity. 2nd display is also very handy. A few grams/ounches weight isn't going to bother me when comparing both of these phones. Anyway, getting off topic. I think the design of this phone is the reason why you may be experiencing issues, or your radio could be faulty if it's happening everywhere, even in places you'd normally get good reception. See how the resulrs vary at inner city, more outer-suburban locations and compare to what you were getting previously (on this phoine or another 4G LTE).
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I got the phone to finally to replace my SG Note II N7100 version (I don't like newer Notes. I was hoping for same features past Note 4. Finally gave up replaceable battery feature for Asus ZF3D 64GB) Also I could finally use Tmobiles 4G LTE and add Freedompop H+ networks as secondary. I notice something with Tmobile LTE. At first Tmobile's 4G LTE had 1/4 bars and data speeds seem to fail a lot and if it pass it would read it as 0 kbps. But I kept using it for few days more. I'm starting to get 2 or higher on signal and data speeds hit around download 8/upload 1 mbps at 38 ms ping and this is at the same area. Not sure what happen in those first few days. Signal got boosted good if you disable secondary SIM. I get about 3 or 4 bars.
If I did get into good place I would hit around 10/25 speeds still better than Tmobile's H+ with Note 2.
^as long as lte signal gets better instead of few bars! What part of the USA?
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I got the phone to finally to replace my SG Note II N7100 version (I don't like newer Notes. I was hoping for same features past Note 4. Finally gave up no replaceable battery feature for Asus ZF3D 64GB) Also I could finally use Tmobiles 4G LTE and add Freedompop H+ networks as secondary. I notice something with Tmobile LTE. At first Tmobile's 4G LTE had 1/4 bars and data speeds seem to fail a lot and if it pass it would read it as 0 kbps. But I kept using it for few days more. I'm starting to get 2 or higher on signal and data speeds hit around download 8/upload 1 mbps at 38 ms ping and this is at the same area. Not sure what happen in those first few days. Signal got boosted good if you disable secondary SIM. I get about 3 or 4 bars.
If I did get into good place I would hit around 10/25 speeds still better than Tmobile's H+ with Note 2.
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I had the same exact problem on my phone. It cleared up after a few days as well. My Sim2 slot is still enabled, so I don't know how mine fixed itself. Maybe something with the cell towers, not sure
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^as long as lte signal gets better instead of few bars! What part of the USA?
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I live in Tracy, CA.
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I live in Tracy, CA.
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You should usually have a good signal there. I'm in Vegas and have full bars with T-Mobile...
Hi all, I posted part of this message in another forum as it was part of a bigger posting. Here I am only posting issues with the Bands & LTE Coverage.
So I also upgraded my wife's phone (S5) to the Zen 3 deluxe (ZS570KL / 256gb hd / 6gb ram / 821 chip) and she hates it... calls keep dropping signal is low and it does not even say LTE. I did a speedtest comparison between her Zen 3 and my Zen 2 (rooted and running CM13) and mine is way faster. Hers is also disconnecting from cellular (AT&T) data and does not show 4G anymore along with no push notifications of emails. I get strong bars and the phone displays LTE, hers only shows 4G+.
Anyone else having these issues? Oh and she does have a plastic / silicon clear case.
I have a P30 Pro that I'm thinking of swapping for a Mate 20X.
I know the differences between the 4G and 5G models, particularly the smaller battery in the 5G.
Whether its 4G or 5G doesn't really make much difference to me, I'm more interested in how they stack up as daily drivers.
Any input is appreciated.
4G is fantastic...battery very very incredible
Yeah, from most reviews I've seen the bigger battery on the 4G does last a lot longer, but I've also seen that the 5G can still go an entire day.
I don't want to pay cash for another phone, so if I'm not successful getting a swap the best contract deal I can get is for the 5G model, there are no longer any 4G phones in UK networks stocks.
Anyone have a 5G they can give some input on?
I have 5g now, in past I had 4g.
Battery is really worse lot, I am heavy user and ofter charge a little during day. For low or mid-level or usage it is not necessary. 8gg is very useful on 5g. Also signal strength of 4g (no 5g in Serbia yet) and specially wifi is best I ever seen (I really had many models, mostly high end).
In many situations, in some areas, I am only who sees wifi signal and can use 4g. Useful for me. Sound is probably worse on 5g but I don't use it extensively for music.
Thanks, that's excellent feedback.
Great 4G and WiFi reception on the 5G model is interesting, and I know it doesn't have a true top speaker but I listen to music on a BT headset so it's not important.
I realise the smaller battery doesn't last as long, I'd expect that, but if it lasts a full day on average use that's also good.
With the overwhelming advice and experiences of other users here, I've bitten the bullet: I'll have a Mate 20X tomorrow. I remember just a few years ago these forums were so busy, but I think a lot of the inactivity now is down to OEMs keeping bootloaders locked and stifling development and custom ROMs.
I've already done a lot of research, read many reviews and watched numerous YT vids so I've a pretty good idea what to expect when it arrives.
It's the 5G EVR-N29 International version on Vodafone UK. My present P30 Pro is on Three UK and tbh the reception at home sucks but I'm pretty sure Vodafone will be much better.
I'll update this thread once I've set it up and used it for a while.
@ivanox1972 Thanks for your input, the info about 4G and WiFi reception being really good helped me decide on the 5G model :good:
Cheers buddy
Where u from? 5G Mate 20X will be useless for EU because it support N78 but in future we need N1 and N28.
I'm in the UK. The 5G model I have is already working here on 5G NR Band n78. Although as I said in my OP, 5G isn't an important factor in my choice of the Mate 20 X.
For now there is only N78, almost worldwide but N28 will be the new B20 4G.
Really?
Thanks for the input, that helps a lot.
So far I'm really pleased with my phone, the screen is a pleasure to use. I'm still getting used to handling it, it's quite a lot bigger than my P30 Pro. Using it one-handed is possible, I just need to refine my technique.