I started another thread that has yielded zero useful information so I thought I would be very explicit this time about what I am looking for. I'm trying to figure out if I should RMA my device or not. My device is currently 98F in a 70F room and I'm doing nothing but typing this message. This seems like a high temperature to me but for all I know it's normal for this device. If other people who use battery monitor apps that include device temperature readings could let me know what temp their Pixel XL is operating at I would appreciate it and it will help me decide whether I should RMA this device or not. Thanks in advance if anyone actually responds with useful information.
31C at 26C
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31C at 26C
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That's the same temp as mine after conversion. Maybe that's a normal temp for this phone. Thanks for the response!
The Pixel is designed really differently than my previous phones so I'm having trouble figuring out what is normal on a Pixel. The CPU frequencies that this phone operates at would result in a significant performance lag on my previous phone, for example, but with the Pixel they result in the phone running very smooth and fast.
I have not messed with my frequencies, I'm running OctOS with the Elemental kernel at whatever it ships at.
so I went ahead and let my phone sit in my center console on my way home. for some reason the sun cooks this area of my truck and it's hot to touch even with the AC. After my trip home in 103F weather it was at 42C and did not shut down (I was streaming music over bluetooth from amazon music)
Idle : 30 - 35 C (phone goes below 30 C only when not used for more than 15-20 mins in a very cool room).
Medium Load: 35-40 C
Charging in the car, Charging while using Chrome etc: 40-44 C
Heavy Load: 42-48 C
I have owned Nexus 5, Nexus 6 and Nexus 6p previously. This phone definitely runs hotter than all of them.
I got a replacement from Google, but it is the same problem.
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I have not messed with my frequencies, I'm running OctOS with the Elemental kernel at whatever it ships at.
so I went ahead and let my phone sit in my center console on my way home. for some reason the sun cooks this area of my truck and it's hot to touch even with the AC. After my trip home in 103F weather it was at 42C and did not shut down (I was streaming music over bluetooth from amazon music)
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I don't have air conditioning in my car, it was very hot outside, the phone was sitting in a cradle in direct sunlight and I was using the car charger, GPS and Spotify all at the same time--so it's possible my phone got much hotter than 42C when it did shut down. But I used my Nexus 6P and Samsung Galaxy S3 and S6 under identical circumstances and none of them ever overheated and shut down. They also didn't run anywhere near as hot as the Pixel XL when idle. My phone is generally 90-100F in an air conditioned apartment when I'm doing absolutely nothing with it--and multiple people have responded with similar temps for their own phones. If the idle temp for the phone is that high it's going to get super hot when using it under more demanding circumstances.
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Idle : 30 - 35 C (phone goes below 30 C only when not used for more than 15-20 mins in a very cool room).
Medium Load: 35-40 C
Charging in the car, Charging while using Chrome etc: 40-44 C
Heavy Load: 42-48 C
I have owned Nexus 5, Nexus 6 and Nexus 6p previously. This phone definitely runs hotter than all of them.
I got a replacement from Google, but it is the same problem.
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That really seems to be normal for this phone based on what others have been saying. Thanks for the detailed information.
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That really seems to be normal for this phone based on what others have been saying. Thanks for the detailed information.
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No problem. Have you observed higher battery drain when the CPU heats up? I'm not sure phones are meant to be that hot. I haven't seen any other flagship heating up so much.
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No problem. Have you observed higher battery drain when the CPU heats up? I'm not sure phones are meant to be that hot. I haven't seen any other flagship heating up so much.
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I've never heard of another flagship phone that operates so hot. Battery does definitely drain faster the hotter the phone gets. But mine gets to 100F doing almost nothing.
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I've never heard of another flagship phone that operates so hot. Battery does definitely drain faster the hotter the phone gets. But mine gets to 100F doing almost nothing.
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Yes, mine get to 100-105 F range quickly on battery temperature.
Yesterday I had the following youtube, whatsapp, Browser and Gmail - I was switching back and forth and the phone was on 43 C (110 F), (granted I had 1080p video on and was chatting to a friend as well and responding to emails).. I had to then clear all apps and stop using the phone to allow it to cool down. The CPU temperature was over 58 C (measured using elemental X kernal with root access).
Something is wrong with either the 2 NEW Pixel XL phones that Google has provided me OR with the Pixel XL phone in general. There has to be a hardware problem. Maybe some phones are worse than others? Maybe it is a quality control issue?
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Yes, mine get to 100-105 F range quickly on battery temperature.
Yesterday I had the following youtube, whatsapp, Browser and Gmail - I was switching back and forth and the phone was on 43 C (110 F), (granted I had 1080p video on and was chatting to a friend as well and responding to emails).. I had to then clear all apps and stop using the phone to allow it to cool down. The CPU temperature was over 58 C (measured using elemental X kernal with root access).
Something is wrong with either the 2 NEW Pixel XL phones that Google has provided me OR with the Pixel XL phone in general. There has to be a hardware problem. Maybe some phones are worse than others? Maybe it is a quality control issue?
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jesus 58?! mine only got to 45C and that's letting it sit in my center console while streaming youtube with the screen on
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jesus 58?! mine only got to 45C and that's letting it sit in my center console while streaming youtube with the screen on
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Well, that was CPU temperature. The battery temperature was 43-44 C. I had to use a custom Kernel with Root to measure CPU temp, as most apps only give battery temp.
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Well, that was CPU temperature. The battery temperature was 43-44 C. I had to use a custom Kernel with Root to measure CPU temp, as most apps only give battery temp.
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haha oops, I had no idea EXKM did that, just enabled it to see how my cpu fares
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haha oops, I had no idea EXKM did that, just enabled it to see how my cpu fares
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Thank you. EXKM will put a persistent notification.
I would be very interested to know what your temperatures are under mid-heavy load : both the battery temp and CPU temp.
It's basic knowledge that heat destroys processors and other circuits. I have to use coolers and thermal paste etc in my home computer when it gets too hot. I can't see why it would be different for a phone.
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Thank you. EXKM will put a persistent notification.
I would be very interested to know what your temperatures are under mid-heavy load : both the battery temp and CPU temp.
It's basic knowledge that heat destroys processors and other circuits. I have to use coolers and thermal paste etc in my home computer when it gets too hot. I can't see why it would be different for a phone.
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yeah that's why I was so shocked at the temp, get the inside hot enough and any soldered components will begin to loosen. well lets see how it does
Google tells me it's 34° and the battery is at 42.2°
I'd love to check with Daydream!
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Google tells me it's 34° and the battery is at 42.2°
I'd love to check with Daydream!
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The phone is known to get very hot with Daydream. I'm more concerned with how hot the phone gets under normal operating conditions. My battery goes from 80F to 100F in seconds if I do anything as light as surfing the Internet, reading my email, browsing the XDA app or using the EBay app. 100F seems to be the base temperature of my battery if I am using the phone for anything. I suspect that Google knows these phones won't last more than a couple years. I'm not sure if I should wait to find out or just get rid of this thing while it still works. At least in the Nexus phones you had the option of flashing a custom kernel and changing the governor so the phone would run cooler. You can't do that with the Pixel--the phone runs at the same temps or even worse on a custom kernel. I already tried. I've never owned one but I'm curious if the Pixel XL runs significantly warmer than an iPhone. Or for that matter a flagship Samsung phone--other than the one that blew up, obviously.
https://www.xda-developers.com/goog...s-analysis-a-remarkable-consistent-performer/
So XDA went ahead and showed what the surface temp of their pixel is under their tests
http://www.buildcomputers.net/cpu-temperature.html
I thought the temp of the cpu temp was high, but compared to other processors this is pretty average/on the low side
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/archive/lithium_ion_safety_concerns
Turns out that's no where near as hot as it would need to be to be a safety issue for any of us.
http://bgr.com/2017/01/23/galaxy-note-7-battery-investigation/
if you're concerned why samsung exploded while ours hasn't, they have a good explanation about the construction of those batteries being flawed.
fatapia said:
https://www.xda-developers.com/goog...s-analysis-a-remarkable-consistent-performer/
So XDA went ahead and showed what the surface temp of their pixel is under their tests
http://www.buildcomputers.net/cpu-temperature.html
I thought the temp of the cpu temp was high, but compared to other processors this is pretty average/on the low side
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/archive/lithium_ion_safety_concerns
Turns out that's no where near as hot as it would need to be to be a safety issue for any of us.
http://bgr.com/2017/01/23/galaxy-note-7-battery-investigation/
if you're concerned why samsung exploded while ours hasn't, they have a good explanation about the construction of those batteries being flawed.
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I'm not concerned with safety. I'm sure the Pixel is perfectly safe. I'm concerned this phone is going to eventually bootloop like the Nexus 6P, the Nexus 5X and multiple LG phones. I'm not one of those people who wants to have the latest of everything and if I spend a small fortune on something I actually want it to last for a long time. I do appreciate the links you provided and will look at the info later. Thanks.
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So I was wondering what temps you guys are seeing when your phone overheats.
My phone reboots when it hits 37 C, which seems awful low. Anyone else seeing such low reboot temps?
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So I was wondering what temps you guys are seeing when your phone overheats.
My phone reboots when it hits 37 C, which seems awful low. Anyone else seeing such low reboot temps?
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Mine doesn't reboot that low, the highest I have seen it go was like 43.7 or something
I've never had my phone reboot due to overheating even at 42°C. Running CM6.01
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Hmm, this is getting frustrating. I've begun to reboot at around 37 C. Is there any way to change that number? Anything to reset?
Is that CPU or battery temperature? If battery then the CPU would be much hotter.
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Battery... but it's weird. The battery temperature gets to 37 C, and then reboot. When I very distinctly remember it before going 45+ C without a problem.
And now I'm bootlooping. Seems to start up, and is still too hot, then reboots again. Anyone have this happen to them? Lower temp reboots?
Sounds like you may have permanently damaged your device, if your battery temp were 40+ degree celsius your CPU temp would be a sustained 15+ degrees hotter. Running your device this hot often certainly could damage it over time.
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Try a standard or increasing voltage kernel if possible.
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Sounds like you may have permanently damaged your device, if your battery temp were 40+ degree celsius your CPU temp would be a sustained 15+ degrees hotter. Running your device this hot often certainly could damage it over time.
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No no, my battery isn't that hot for long amounts of time, just, like when I'm surfing for a long time or something. Trying an undervolted kernel now.
Do you have a backup battery that you can try - see if you get the same results? Batteries do occassionally stop working properly.
My phone would reboot when using GPS in the car if it was on the dashboard or mounted - I checked the temperature when it booted and didn't get stuck in a boot loop and it was around 45c.....
I returned the phone to stock and brought it back to vzw, they gave me a new battery, phone still runs somewhat hot even stock.
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My phone would reboot when using GPS in the car if it was on the dashboard or mounted - I checked the temperature when it booted and didn't get stuck in a boot loop and it was around 45c.....
I returned the phone to stock and brought it back to vzw, they gave me a new battery, phone still runs somewhat hot even stock.
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But mine is rebooting at 37-38 C. Which is awfully low. I'm RUU'd, S-oned, and factory-resetted and STILL it happens. So it's a hardware problem.
Gonna take it into a Verizon store and demand a replacement on the spot x]
I can advisr from personal experience on your symptoms that you have one choice ... Return to verizon for a refurb. This is what happens when you have an early incredible with a faulty hardware radio. It gets to the point where it starts trying to compensate and super heats. You must return.
Every other suggestion would be a mask to an existing well known hardware problem.
I once left my phone in a black bag on a hot summer day. It went up to 50 C with no problems. It didn't reboot or anything.
I have one of the original Incredible's from launch day, it is usually around 43-45. Sometimes it gets warmer than that playing games. Never actually had any problems. The hottest it ever gets is on Z rom's. Those things have gotten it to 50 .
I'm on CM7 W/Slayher's 2.6.37 kernel, and it's at 42 just on the home screen. Mind you this is all on stock speeds. My phone doesn't like to overclock. Regardless of kernel. It can go to 1.113 sometimes, but any more = reboot.
On the HTC Incredible site, there is a FAQ which states the maximum recommended operating temp is ~60C.
I'm relatively sure there is no problem with the battery or the CPU doing up to ~90 for awhile because that's a fairly common temp for CPUs and Batteries to withstand. I'm sure that like most batteries , at >~50C it is less efficient, but I doubt the CPU is presented with any problems in that range.
Phones present a unique set of high-temp problems. Cooling sucks in those little enclosed boxes, and manufacturers definitely don't want your hand or ear burned, and are terrified of having a battery burn up in your hand or pocket, so that is probably why 60 is said to be max. I don't like picking up my phone when it's at all hot (~40C or more) but while experimenting with my own kernels and voltages and overclocking, I've had it reboot somewhere around 60C. Was it the temp, or was it overclocked too far? I have no idea, but I lowered both and stopped taking stupid chances with it.
This thing of rebooting at 37C seems nuts, inappropriate, and most likely a defective part, or one of the many services or apps that perhaps does the wrong thing (accesses verbotten memory, bad ptr, etc..)
A bad example for sure, but at work, many of our HP or Dell Racked servers (DL380's etc), are too hot to touch while running. They have enough fans to power a 747, and it just makes it pretty clear that in some cases, processors and other components can run at amazing temps.
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Some phones are great to take camping because if you play Asphalt 8 long enough, the back warms up to the ideal temperature that can bake bread. Rate this thread to express the extent to which the ZTE Axon 7 stays cool under extended heavy use. A higher rating indicates that even when playing strenuous games for long periods of time, the phone doesn't get uncomfortably warm.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I have not noticed any excessive heat. Probably the coolest of all my past phones.
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I have not noticed any excessive heat. Probably the coolest of all my past phones.
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Agree it has been the coolest phone I have owned. The other phones I have owned have both got very hot which has made the phones very slow (CPU throttling?). The Axon 7 has stayed quite cool to the touch even when using things like GPS and camera.
Nexus 6p (toaster)
Oneplus One (hot)
HTC M7 (hot)
iPhone 5s (mild)
Axon 7 (cool)
Warm/Hot
Got my Axon 7 today been using it for a few hours was warm throughout my usage, gave it a charge and was really warm/hot. Battery life wasn't all that great either, people are getting 5-6 SOT with a full charge, it came with 85% out of the box and used it for around 2~2.5 hours and it was down to 20% with brightness below 50% wasn't impressed. I'm hoping it'll get better with more use as this phone is pretty great
If you play all day of course you wont get 6 hrs of SoT.
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I have not noticed any excessive heat. Probably the coolest of all my past phones.
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Agree it has been the coolest phone I have owned. The other phones I have owned have both got very hot which has made the phones very slow (CPU throttling?). The Axon 7 has stayed quite cool to the touch even when using things like GPS and camera.
Nexus 6p (toaster)
Oneplus One (hot)
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Yup and Yup....
Comparing the Axon 7 to previous devices, A7 win by a long shot.
I play PSP Games (this is hard on CPU+GPU) and doesn't transform into a toaster.
I've gotten 6.5 hours of screen on time, but this is with conservative use: web browsing/video watching with extremely low brightness settings.
When playing Star Wars KOTOR, I've only gotten ~3.5 hours of play time. Brightness heavily affects the drain speed.
it gets barely warm enough to notice it working at all.
Got hot in pocket while doing nothing, GSam showed 38-40 celsius. Started today, exactly after 1 week when I got it. While using it it gets warm a little, but nothing serious compared to my old phones.
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Hi guys my Axon 7 is running the latest update (7.1.1) and my battery's temperature is 29°c when idling and the room's temperature is also 29°c, but when I start using social media apps like Instagram and Snapchat ,it gets around 37° and if I use Chrome for web surfing it gets around 40°c, so is this normal for Axon 7? And also if I use so heavy multitasking like downloading over mobile data, watch online videos , two sims both activated , and ten other apps open at the same time but no games , the temperature sometimes goes up to 45°c. What is your Axon 7's battery temperature in different situations?please also mention the room temperature that you're in. ( to see the temperature go to settings/ power manager/ battery cooling)
With Gsam Battery, it says 43 celcius when charging or reddit/games...
It was under 35c a few weeks ago
It is normal for many phones.
And the temp alert settings of the axon7 are very useful as I sit in sunlight very often and most times forget about phone temperature
My Axon 7 heats up fast when I used aze
The battery monitor reports overheat warning after 20 minutes of using the GPS app called Waze. The temp would reach 46°C easily. I don't get this issue when I use the Google Map.
I have seen temperatures in excess of 50C when in direct sunlight in my hot car while using GPS (no A/C in my car).
Playing Hearthstone in my warm room can exceed 40C, which is where I have the warning set to.
I hope I'm not slowly killing the device or battery...
My A2017G gets a little hot (but definitely usable) when charging. Unplug it and it'll cool down pretty quickly.
But then that might be because I keep the phone on all the time (got an always-on screen app running just for screen-off OK Google)
This phone doesn't get hot. You guys don't know what's hot until you have used a Xperia M4 Aqua
My Xperia M4 Aqua could reach temps of steady 82C while gaming and 74C while watching Youtube
I've been getting issues using mine as a GPS with here maps. Battery heat warnings and yes, it felt hot, not to mention the app is causing navigation problems a lot.
Installed TomTom, see if it works better. It has some better UI and settings already.
If it doesn't run cooler I might buy a dedicated GPS but really don't want another device in the car.....
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I've been getting issues using mine as a GPS with here maps. Battery heat warnings and yes, it felt hot, not to mention the app is causing navigation problems a lot.
Installed TomTom, see if it works better. It has some better UI and settings already.
If it doesn't run cooler I might buy a dedicated GPS but really don't want another device in the car.....
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That's really weird, my phone never gets hot while using GPS and driving. Are you sure you're not putting the phone in direct sunlight?
Yeah, of course it had sun on it. You need it able to access GPS signal reliably for good navigation.
It was in a screen mount. I was using it heaps today on TomTom app with much more success and less heat. Seems there's something not right with Here Maps.
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Yeah, of course it had sun on it. You need it able to access GPS signal reliably for good navigation.
It was in a screen mount. I was using it heaps today on TomTom app with much more success and less heat. Seems there's something not right with Here Maps.
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You don't need the sunlight directed onto the device.
I got a mount on my with a shieldscreen to protect it from sunlight so it won't get cooked. I am guessing you're enjoying a cooked phone while driving
I got my phone a few days ago, and I'm somewhat dissapointed cause it always feels like it's running hot. I've never had this problem on my S7 edge. Just doing some browsing and its in the 94F range. Is this normal?
While it runs a little warm when charging, I've not noticed any excessive heat unless I'm doing something computationally intensive (Ex: transcoding video). But I know of one person that returned hers because of the heat. Have you checked to see if any applications are using excessive CPU cycles or are consuming the battery faster than others?
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While it runs a little warm when charging, I've not noticed any excessive heat unless I'm doing something computationally intensive (Ex: transcoding video). But I know of one person that returned hers because of the heat. Have you checked to see if any applications are using excessive CPU cycles or are consuming the battery faster than others?
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I haven't seen anything out of the ordinary. I'm barely using my phone to see if its gonna start to cool down but it's just consistenly in the 90F range with light use. I wanted to see how others experience are with their phones before I decide if I want to exchange it.
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I haven't seen anything out of the ordinary. I'm barely using my phone to see if its gonna start to cool down but it's just consistenly in the 90F range with light use. I wanted to see how others experience are with their phones before I decide if I want to exchange it.
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Depends on the ambient temperature, is that the temperature of the battery? If yes then it sounds ok to me.
You should download GSam and monitor the temperature. Since its made out of glass and metal, it will appear hotter to touch than a plastic phone.
Here ya go, note 7 recall due to fire Risk.
Samsung is recalling the Galaxy Note 7 worldwide over battery problem
http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/02/technology/samsung-galaxy-note-7-recall/index.html
Hope it doesn't explode lol
I would disable fast charging and turn on power saver.
Just to be safe.
Also don't wireless charge.
If yours is affected by the battery explosion issue, then don't risk it.
Wait for recall instructions and play it safe.
LOL. Yeah thanks guys, guess I'll return mine then and wait for them to make some new ones, sucks cause I really like the phone and already put in a screen protector and case
Boom!
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Does this phone feel warm in your hands most of the time? (Except when idle). Mine is warm. Not hot, but warm every time I use it. Should I be concerned? Or is this a feature for coming winter? It is a replacement. And the first one was mostly the same actually.
If we consider the performance of this mobile and compare it with a lap top or table PC I think it outstanding how cool this mobile runs.
Remember there is no cooling system. Now look at the cooling systems on similar devices.
All flag ship uber mobile devices can get warm under load. I have owned hundreds of mobiles and all powerful models run warm when pushed.
My Samsung Galaxy S6Edge plus runs warmer than my note 7 and my Samsung galaxy S6 ran even warmer.
No cause for concern.
Ensure you only use Samsung chargers designed for the Note 7 to charge the Note 7. NEVER charge any phone using a third party charger.
Enjoy your lovely Note 7, incredible device.
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Thanks for your opinion. However, it is warm not only under heavy use, just when browsingy reading news, checking email... normal use. Just feels warm in my hands, that is all.
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Thanks for your opinion. However, it is warm not only under heavy use, just when browsingy reading news, checking email... normal use. Just feels warm in my hands, that is all.
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If you have a genuine concern you should return your device to your store and request they examine it. Cant lose a thing by doing that if it puts your mind at rest.
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I don't know if I should be concerned about this or not. That is why I am asking other users about their own experience. I see yours is cool unless in heavy use, lucky you .
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I don't know if I should be concerned about this or not. That is why I am asking other users about their own experience. I see yours is cool unless in heavy use, lucky you .
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Unsure what else I could have replied. Sorry I can be of no further help to you on this point. :highfive:
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The phone's temperature is a measure of how fast the battery is draining. Expected energy consumption depends on what apps and services you may have running in the background, in addition to what's actually on your screen at the moment. So you should look at the battery-usage data (in Settings|Device Maintenance|Battery) and see what apps are responsible.
When my phone is idle, it is cool to the touch and the battery temperature is around 27C.
Nothing special, just apps that I am mostly using. No apparent drain.
Mine is cool when idle too, but warm the rest of the time.
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Nothing special, just apps that I am mostly using. No apparent drain.
Mine is cool when idle too, but warm the rest of the time.
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Use "GSam battery monitor" and see what temperatures the battery reaches when you are using it. It should feel more warm than other phones cause its made out of metal/glass.
That is a brilliant explanation about the glass thing, why didn't I figure this out? So it kind of is a feature for winter .
Well I used another app and battery shows at about 34 degrees C, CPU shows around 45 degrees. The highest I saw for a second was over 60 degrees (CPU) when downloading apps.
Don't forget that the screen also produces a fair amount of heat...especially when the brightness is cranked up.
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I considered that. But strangely it feels warmer on the top half of the phone.
If you dont tell us the tempreture how do you expect any useful feedback?
We accepct C or F
Umm, I did, bottom post on page 1.
mine is actually mostly "cold". although it's rooted, debloated and i'm using the hydra kernel. Battery life is amazing...
I've never had mine hot, even when playing games it's cool. When charging, it's cool. I'm going to try a stress test and take some readings see what happens I think. But I'm not worried about it heating up a bit.
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That is a brilliant explanation about the glass thing, why didn't I figure this out? So it kind of is a feature for winter .
Well I used another app and battery shows at about 34 degrees C, CPU shows around 45 degrees. The highest I saw for a second was over 60 degrees (CPU) when downloading apps.
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I believe this is a little to warm for minor task such as download apps, browsing, text messaging...etc, though I also think these temps shouldn't worry you as long as 60 is the highest you see under full load just my 2 cents.
You're missing a really important detail, the ambient temperature. You should measure the difference between ambient temperature and the battery temperature. Comparing the battery temperature across different devices in different parts of the word is not accurate or fair.
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You're missing a really important detail, the ambient temperature. You should measure the difference between ambient temperature and the battery temperature. Comparing the battery temperature across different devices in different parts of the word is not accurate or fair.
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True, its been that hot here this year, 43, that even the chickens laid hard boiled eggs!
Ryland
my n7 v1 was warm and the battery lasted forever.
my n7 v2 is noticeably hot, and the battery drains 20% faster, which seems to be the most common complaint in the news.
Samsung has not addressed this. The phone was much hotter when first setup, and after a few hours seems to settle.
I'm sure rooted, and debloated its a little cooler.
when using wifi/4g in my house, i watched video, browsed fb and even shared internet and all. below i'll give my observations:
in wifi:
watching video, fb and browsing, whatsappin: the phone get very very slightly warm like not warm just the bit different from the phones usual temp like it hovers around 33-34.
when gaming in wifi it goes arounf 36-39 (NOVA 3) battery never crossed 31..
4g in my house, battery arounf 32-33, temperature around 37-39 for all.
but when i step out of my house, like when i'm operating my mobile in train/bus and the ambient temperature varies from say 28-32, my phone gets considerably hot and today, i was travelling in Bus and the ambient temp was around 35 and i was just browsing , watching videos and fb, my phone became hot like it even would have touched 43-46! i felt it hot to touch, is this norma(it's making me extremely paranoid)l!!??? if this is the case what happens if it's summer here, the phone would become blazingly hot, coz in summer ambient temp would be around 36-44 and all!!
Is this normala or am i unlucky for the second time ? I'm getting paranoid!
Just hit them back up
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Are you serious.... When the ambient temp is 35 degree what else would you expect... Every phone on the planet will get that temperature. Can't believe you had a phone returned for this. You know the front of the device is black and absorbs light... When the sun hits your phone it's gonna heat up also. This phone is the best Android phone when it comes to thermal throttling.
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when using wifi/4g in my house, i watched video, browsed fb and even shared internet and all. below i'll give my observations:
in wifi:
watching video, fb and browsing, whatsappin: the phone get very very slightly warm like not warm just the bit different from the phones usual temp like it hovers around 33-34.
when gaming in wifi it goes arounf 36-39 (NOVA 3) battery never crossed 31..
4g in my house, battery arounf 32-33, temperature around 37-39 for all.
but when i step out of my house, like when i'm operating my mobile in train/bus and the ambient temperature varies from say 28-32, my phone gets considerably hot and today, i was travelling in Bus and the ambient temp was around 35 and i was just browsing , watching videos and fb, my phone became hot like it even would have touched 43-46! i felt it hot to touch, is this norma(it's making me extremely paranoid)l!!??? if this is the case what happens if it's summer here, the phone would become blazingly hot, coz in summer ambient temp would be around 36-44 and all!!
Is this normala or am i unlucky for the second time ? I'm getting paranoid!
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With heavy multitasking, I hit 60+. Not regularly, but it has happened. The temperatures you're hitting are normal for me. I've had zero issues with the device. I have an OtterBox case, so I don't feel the heat as much. Honestly, I barely even notice heat at those temperatures. Considering the fact that the body of the device is aluminum, it's going to easily get hot to the touch.
Also, my One would almost always run between 45-70, and I've had that since launch. Used it heavily daily for years, and I still use it regularly as an app development device. No issues.
These devices have extremely powerful processors. They get hot. There's not an easy, efficient, way to cool a processor in a device like this yet, but they're designed for heavy use, so I wouldn't worry about it.
crzykiller said:
Are you serious.... When the ambient temp is 35 degree what else would you expect... Every phone on the planet will get that temperature. Can't believe you had a phone returned for this. You know the front of the device is black and absorbs light... When the sun hits your phone it's gonna heat up also. This phone is the best Android phone when it comes to thermal throttling.
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Hi first of all thanks for the reply.. I'll tell you what really made me paranoid.. Every evening I travel in bus and train and the ambient temperature would be from27-28_29.. I use 4g jio.. I just browsw/fb/insta.. In minutes my phone near the earpiece on the screen gets warmed up and it'd go around 40-41. Then I lock it it cools down fast but when I unlock it in seconds again starts warming up... My friend using same 4g in moto g4plus but his screen is cooler than mine... Please my one last doubt...
This is nothing lol. I live in Scotland so just now ambient temperature range from 5-13 °c and in my house 21-23°c and my Z3+ hits 60-70°c easily on heavy use. Benchmarked it one day and hit 90°c. The joys of the 810 chipset. Anyway away to upgrade to the OP3T so i should see and feel a massive difference.
msvr3 said:
Hi first of all thanks for the reply.. I'll tell you what really made me paranoid.. Every evening I travel in bus and train and the ambient temperature would be from27-28_29.. I use 4g jio.. I just browsw/fb/insta.. In minutes my phone near the earpiece on the screen gets warmed up and it'd go around 40-41. Then I lock it it cools down fast but when I unlock it in seconds again starts warming up... My friend using same 4g in moto g4plus but his screen is cooler than mine... Please my one last doubt...
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Install a custom ROM and kernel and limit your background tasks. You may just have a bunch of things running using your CPU.
Thank you all!
Hey all thank you guys very much for replying to my thread! i'm really feeling okay instead of getting paranoid with my phone.. although i'd be very happy if you guys just clear me this last doubt!
today I was playing NOVA 3 connected to wifi in an ambient temperature of 25C, 5-10mins into gaming, CPU reaCHED A MAX OF 41c and at around 20 it maintaining at 43 but jumping sometimes 45.. this is gaming, but i get the same temperature just browsing in knda same ambient temp while I'm travelling. and also browsing in wifi/4g(fb,insta,chrome) in my house in ambient 25-27 gets the phone phone to 35-37... and the rest of the pat of the mobile is cool, even the back side is normal, only the small portion between the earpiece..
why is this happening? is this normal(it'd be great if you guys clear this)? if yup y so? and why phones like oneplus x and moto g4 etc have relatively less temp than OP3..
I know it'd be irritating to answer kinda same question again, but this would my help paranoiac freaking out for my mobile will go down..
thanks in advance for your replies
msvr3 said:
Hey all thank you guys very much for replying to my thread! i'm really feeling okay instead of getting paranoid with my phone.. although i'd be very happy if you guys just clear me this last doubt!
today I was playing NOVA 3 connected to wifi in an ambient temperature of 25C, 5-10mins into gaming, CPU reaCHED A MAX OF 41c and at around 20 it maintaining at 43 but jumping sometimes 45.. this is gaming, but i get the same temperature just browsing in knda same ambient temp while I'm travelling. and also browsing in wifi/4g(fb,insta,chrome) in my house in ambient 25-27 gets the phone phone to 35-37... and the rest of the pat of the mobile is cool, even the back side is normal, only the small portion between the earpiece..
why is this happening? is this normal(it'd be great if you guys clear this)? if yup y so? and why phones like oneplus x and moto g4 etc have relatively less temp than OP3..
I know it'd be irritating to answer kinda same question again, but this would my help paranoiac freaking out for my mobile will go down..
thanks in advance for your replies
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Because the Oneplus 3 is a lot faster, the Temps you are giving are n even close to hot... This has been one of the cooler phones so far.
Like others said, those temps are completely normal. Hell, I'd even expect them to be higher with your fairly high ambient temps.
About comparison with other phones - it all depends on internals and design. OP3 is made of aluminum so it'll dissipate more heat into the case - you'll feel it better. Other mentioned phones are plastic, so they'll contain more heat inside (you'll not feel so much heat, but the cpu may even run hotter).
And OP3 has cpu located just below the camera, so it's normal that it reaches top temps in that upper center part of the device.
P.S.: You talked about loads and ambient temps, but didn't mention screen brightness - that also plays a massive role in running temperatures.
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Explorer23 said:
Like others said, those temps are completely normal. Hell, I'd even expect them to be higher with your fairly high ambient temps.
About comparison with other phones - it all depends on internals and design. OP3 is made of aluminum so it'll dissipate more heat into the case - you'll feel it better. Other mentioned phones are plastic, so they'll contain more heat inside (you'll not feel so much heat, but the cpu may even run hotter).
And OP3 has cpu located just below the camera, so it's normal that it reaches top temps in that upper center part of the device.
P.S.: You talked about loads and ambient temps, but didn't mention screen brightness - that also plays a massive role in running temperatures.
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for me mostly brightness bar will be in the middle... i never use it with high brightness..
Just get a case and maybe a screen protector so that you can't feel it getting hot.
crzykiller said:
Are you serious.... When the ambient temp is 35 degree what else would you expect... Every phone on the planet will get that temperature. Can't believe you had a phone returned for this. You know the front of the device is black and absorbs light... When the sun hits your phone it's gonna heat up also. This phone is the best Android phone when it comes to thermal throttling.
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hey ya !! sorry to disturb you again and again.. just a urios doubt.. what'd be the temperature of the phone or how hot can it gets, when u use 4g and fb app in ambient temperature of 29C and 33C..
mine got arounf 38-41 for the 1st cse and around 43 for the second case..
I know i'm being paranoid, ,but please, clearing tis would help stop worrying a bit
All the temps you posted are normal
About Moto g, it has much weaker SoC. A Ferrari's engine gets much more hotter than a toy car. Doesn't mean there is anything wrong with Ferrari
4G /3G active usage can get hotter than gaming. That's also normal
msvr3 said:
hey ya !! sorry to disturb you again and again.. just a urios doubt.. what'd be the temperature of the phone or how hot can it gets, when u use 4g and fb app in ambient temperature of 29C and 33C..
mine got arounf 38-41 for the 1st cse and around 43 for the second case..
I know i'm being paranoid, ,but please, clearing tis would help stop worrying a bit
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Nothing much to worry here. Even I use Jio all the time. My OP3 get a lot hotter than any other device I use before. Reasons I knew are these.
1. OP3 rock with a high end processor. Say SD 820. Other phones you mentioned are consisting of relatively lower end processor. So internally they might heat up more that OP3 while doing high processor intensive tasks, but the plastic casing keep the heat inside, as OP3 is made up of Aluminum that being a metal heats up so quickly and and u feel more hotter in hands than the other ones and also it cools faster.
2. AFAIK the processor is situated just below the Camera bump. Hence it heats up very quickly at that area. Irrespective of outside temperature.
3.While using 4G network it's obvious that the phonehave to communicate with the network at a very high rate than 2G or WiFi. So it's clear that it will heat up. Also using high processor intensive application like Facebook gives the processor high stress and it heats up in no time.
Remedies
1. Use a case. That somewhat helps in insulating the heat.
2.If possible use WiFi rather than 4G network. That will considerably helps your battery life.
Conclusion.
Don't worry about the warmth of the phone.Its normal. Just enjoy using the phone.
Never Settle.
Cheers.
Clearly never experienced a SD810 device. I'm sure Snapdragon took there name too seriously with that chipset. I could hit HIGH 80°c in seconds playing basic games, using the camera and under heavy usage. Had to tailer my use around my Z3+ but now I have the 3T I can do what I want and it never goes past 50°c so far.