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Hey guys, I'm interested in buying an htc m8 but I DO NOT want to buy a locked phone with a locked bootloader. So quick simple question, if i provide this amazon link, will you guys tell me if this will have an unlocked bootloader? There's no mention of it on the site or description, so I figured you guys might know.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...de_a_smtd&showDetailTechData=1#technical-data
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Hey guys, I'm interested in buying an htc m8 but I DO NOT want to buy a locked phone with a locked bootloader. So quick simple question, if i provide this amazon link, will you guys tell me if this will have an unlocked bootloader? There's no mention of it on the site or description, so I figured you guys might know.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...de_a_smtd&showDetailTechData=1#technical-data
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I don't see any information about bootloader there. It's probably locked if it has warranty
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I don't see any information about bootloader there. It's probably locked if it has warranty
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Darn the price was very tempting. =\ find it difficult to find one that has an unlocked boot loader except maybe the one from htc themselves. The T-Mobile ones can be unlocked can they?
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ATalkingRock said:
Darn the price was very tempting. =\ find it difficult to find one that has an unlocked boot loader except maybe the one from htc themselves. The T-Mobile ones can be unlocked can they?
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Dev edition has it unlocked by default.
I think they should be unlockable as there is this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2725099
Some links are probably outdated, like twrp, since I remember few threads asking about bootloader unlock and they were directed to this one but with info that some things are outdated
Even the ones with locked bootloaders (excepting Verizon's) are easily unlockable through HTCdev. If you luck out and get one with KitKat, you can skip that step and use Sunshine to S-off as well as unlock the bootloader.
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Even the ones with locked bootloaders (excepting Verizon's) are easily unlockable through HTCdev. If you luck out and get one with KitKat, you can skip that step and use Sunshine to S-off as well as unlock the bootloader.
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Sorry, I've never heard of this. Other carrier HTC m8's can be unlock the booloader on the htc site without any issues? I've also never heard of S-off is that something which is mandatory if i plan on rooting/flashing roms?
ATalkingRock said:
Sorry, I've never heard of this. Other carrier HTC m8's can be unlock the booloader on the htc site without any issues? I've also never heard of S-off is that something which is mandatory if i plan on rooting/flashing roms?
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For most people who just want to run alternate ROMs, unlocking the bootloader is sufficient. However, HTCdev does respect carrier wishes, and not all carriers permit their phones to be unlocked. If you get a phone directly from HTC, or really from anyone other than a carrier, it will definitely be unlockable, though.
S-off isn't a requirement to flash ROMs or root - it is only a requirement if you want to manually update firmware, change the CID/MID (change to a different carrier branded ROM), or revert to an older version of firmware/software. Depending on your carrier, and which ROM you want to run, it often becomes a practical requirement because the only way to update the firmware is typically through an OTA or RUU, both of which are carrier restricted unless you are S-off. Attempting to run a ROM designed for Lollipop firmware on a phone with KitKat firmware often results in problems like slow bootup, no WiFi, etc.
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For most people who just want to run alternate ROMs, unlocking the bootloader is sufficient. However, HTCdev does respect carrier wishes, and not all carriers permit their phones to be unlocked. If you get a phone directly from HTC, or really from anyone other than a carrier, it will definitely be unlockable, though.
S-off isn't a requirement to flash ROMs or root - it is only a requirement if you want to manually update firmware, change the CID/MID (change to a different carrier branded ROM), or revert to an older version of firmware/software. Depending on your carrier, and which ROM you want to run, it often becomes a practical requirement because the only way to update the firmware is typically through an OTA or RUU, both of which are carrier restricted unless you are S-off. Attempting to run a ROM designed for Lollipop firmware on a phone with KitKat firmware often results in problems like slow bootup, no WiFi, etc.
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So i definitely want to run roms like on the original htc m8 android development threads which I would assume requires S-off because they aren't in respective carrier subforums. So assuming I buy a sprint/tmobile htc m8, the chances of being able to unlock bootlolader along with s-off are high?
Yeah I have the sprint HTC One m8 and it was running lollipop and I successfully unlocked my bootloader using HTCDev, then rooted and s-offed using sunshine and I couldn't be happier! Keep in mine sunshine costs 25 dollars but it is well worth it
ATalkingRock said:
So i definitely want to run roms like on the original htc m8 android development threads which I would assume requires S-off because they aren't in respective carrier subforums. So assuming I buy a sprint/tmobile htc m8, the chances of being able to unlock bootlolader along with s-off are high?
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Sprint and T-mobile are two different ball games. Sprint is CDMA, which means you really have to run a ROM designed for their network. Not all ROMs will run on a Sprint (and similarly, Verizon) device because of it. Also, a CDMA phone may support LTE data on a GSM network, but it will not have voice support. Going the other way isn't even an option, as Sprint only allows approved devices on its network, period. Keep that in mind.
T-mobile runs a GSM network, so as long as your firmware/radio supports all of the right frequencies, it will work just fine.
I will say that if you intend to do much carrier hopping, or plan on taking a device between carriers, you will want to S-off. Yes, it's $25, but that will save you a lot of aggravation in the long run. If you are S-off, you can alter the CID/MID of your phone, at which point you can update the firmware and radio to match the carrier you want to use. Then load a custom ROM on top of that.
Finally, S-off and bootloader unlock do not affect the SIM lock at all. That is controlled by the radio, so you will still need to deal with unlock codes. As far as I know, the T-mobile M8 still uses standard subsidy unlock codes, while the newer M9 uses their new "unlock app".
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Sprint and T-mobile are two different ball games. Sprint is CDMA, which means you really have to run a ROM designed for their network. Not all ROMs will run on a Sprint (and similarly, Verizon) device because of it. Also, a CDMA phone may support LTE data on a GSM network, but it will not have voice support. Going the other way isn't even an option, as Sprint only allows approved devices on its network, period. Keep that in mind.
T-mobile runs a GSM network, so as long as your firmware/radio supports all of the right frequencies, it will work just fine.
I will say that if you intend to do much carrier hopping, or plan on taking a device between carriers, you will want to S-off. Yes, it's $25, but that will save you a lot of aggravation in the long run. If you are S-off, you can alter the CID/MID of your phone, at which point you can update the firmware and radio to match the carrier you want to use. Then load a custom ROM on top of that.
Finally, S-off and bootloader unlock do not affect the SIM lock at all. That is controlled by the radio, so you will still need to deal with unlock codes. As far as I know, the T-mobile M8 still uses standard subsidy unlock codes, while the newer M9 uses their new "unlock app".
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So which do you feel would be wiser? Tmobile/sprint? I'm assuming the roms in the original android development subforum are compatible with these phones? For example blisspop.
ATalkingRock said:
So which do you feel would be wiser? Tmobile/sprint? I'm assuming the roms in the original android development subforum are compatible with these phones? For example blisspop.
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I would advise to stay far away from the Sprint version unless you happen to be using Sprint as your carrier.
The reason being, is that the M8 versions that support CDMA (Sprint, Verizon) actually have different hardware from all other versions. Aside from Sprint, Verizon the dual SIM version, all other M8 versions are the same in hardware, and enjoy much more ROM support, as well as the fact that radio firmware is cross-compatible (with s-off).
The same can't be said for the Sprint version, you can only flash ROMs and radio meant for this version (or maybe Verizon also, but that still doesn't give you many more choices compared to the "GSM" M8).
To my knowledge, the US Developer's Edition is the only version that comes from the factory with an unlocked bootloader (which is a direct from HTC version, as you mentioned). And that version is not too common, and probably comes at a hefty price.
Unlocking the bootloader is a simple matter (for all variants except Verizon, which shouldn't be on the list for the above discussed reasons). So I wouldn't make that much of a consideration when making the purchase choice. I would focus more on SIM unlock. But even that can usually be done by using a paid online service for less than $10 US.
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ATalkingRock said:
So i definitely want to run roms like on the original htc m8 android development threads which I would assume requires S-off because they aren't in respective carrier subforums.
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That would be an incorrect assumption. Development sections that are not carrier specific will usually be compatible with any "GSM" version of the M8 (but may also support Sprint/Verizon if explicitly noted in the thread).
S-off or s-on is not a requirement for any ROM. Your phone often needs to have updated firmware and/or hboot. But that can be done without s-off.
However, if you need to change the frequency band support (to match what you carrier is using) than you need s-off.
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I would advise to stay far away from the Sprint version unless you happen to be using Sprint as your carrier.
The reason being, is that the M8 versions that support CDMA (Sprint, Verizon) actually have different hardware from all other versions. Aside from Sprint, Verizon the dual SIM version, all other M8 versions are the same in hardware, and enjoy much more ROM support, as well as the fact that radio firmware is cross-compatible (with s-off).
The same can't be said for the Sprint version, you can only flash ROMs and radio meant for this version (or maybe Verizon also, but that still doesn't give you many more choices compared to the "GSM" M8).
To my knowledge, the US Developer's Edition is the only version that comes from the factory with an unlocked bootloader (which is a direct from HTC version, as you mentioned). And that version is not too common, and probably comes at a hefty price.
Unlocking the bootloader is a simple matter (for all variants except Verizon, which shouldn't be on the list for the above discussed reasons). So I wouldn't make that much of a consideration when making the purchase choice. I would focus more on SIM unlock. But even that can usually be done by using a paid online service for less than $10 US.
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That would be an incorrect assumption. Development sections that are not carrier specific will usually be compatible with any "GSM" version of the M8 (but may also support Sprint/Verizon if explicitly noted in the thread).
S-off or s-on is not a requirement for any ROM. Your phone often needs to have updated firmware and/or hboot. But that can be done without s-off.
However, if you need to change the frequency band support (to match what you carrier is using) than you need s-off.
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Hello there !
Just a question .
I'm planning to buy m8 from here : http://uae.souq.com/ae-en/htc-one-m8-16gb-htc-ultrapixel-camera-4g-lte-gunmetal-gray-6793327/i/
I think this one is the International version (I not sure, but in UAE almost all phones are international verions (like qualcomm based samsung etc..)
I think this phone will have bootloader locked and S-ON by default .
I'm aware that bootloader will be unlockable from htc-dev, but what about s-off ????
If I want to install cm12 or the GPE Rom, then can it be done while phone is s-on ????
ALso what's the buzz about phone coming pre-installed with kitkat or lollipop ??? what difference does it make on rooting/unlocking/s-ff process ???
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I'm planning to buy m8 from here : http://uae.souq.com/ae-en/htc-one-m8-16gb-htc-ultrapixel-camera-4g-lte-gunmetal-gray-6793327/i/
I think this one is the International version (I not sure, but in UAE almost all phones are international verions (like qualcomm based samsung etc..) There is virtually no information regarding the phone specs in this listing. At a minimum, I'd verify with the seller before buying: what variant (CID, MID), specific frequency support (GSM, HSPA and LTE) for this version, and if SIM-unlocked.
I think this phone will have bootloader locked and S-ON by default . Almost certainly bootloader locked and s-on. Factory s-off is rare, but it does happen.
I'm aware that bootloader will be unlockable from htc-dev, but what about s-off ???? If desired, s-off by sunshine ($25 US): http://theroot.ninja/
If I want to install cm12 or the GPE Rom, then can it be done while phone is s-on ???? Yes. At most you may need to update hboot and/or firmware by "official" means before modding the phone, and you can do that with s-on.
ALso what's the buzz about phone coming pre-installed with kitkat or lollipop ??? what difference does it make on rooting/unlocking/s-ff process ??? Doesn't matter much to unlocking bootloader, rooting, and s-off.
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Thanks for the prompt reply !
You deserve that Recong. Contributor tag !!!!
BTW can the GPE version be installed on the GSM variant (not carrier specific) with S-ON ????
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BTW can the GPE version be installed on the GSM variant (not carrier specific) with S-ON ????
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Yes, with s-on you can flash GPE based custom ROMs that support the GSM M8.
Some folks like to "fully convert" to GPE by RUU, which does require s-off. But the only reasons to do this are to get official GPE updates; and to get the GPE partition scheme (smaller system or "ROM" partition means you get more user-accessible storage). But aside from those aspects, just flashing a GPE ROM will get you the full GPE experience.
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Thanks for the prompt reply !
You deserve that Recong. Contributor tag !!!!
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You are quite welcome. Please click the "Thanks" button for any posts you found helpful.
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Yes, with s-on you can flash GPE based custom ROMs that support the GSM M8.
Some folks like to "fully convert" to GPE by RUU, which does require s-off. But the only reasons to do this are to get official GPE updates; and to get the GPE partition scheme (smaller system or "ROM" partition means you get more user-accessible storage). But aside from those aspects, just flashing a GPE ROM will get you the full GPE experience.
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That's awesome ... Many posts on this forum were misleading, I almost came to conclusion that s-Off is required to flash custom rom ... with s-on only the stock based custom roms can be flashed ...
Does the IR Blaster work with cm or other aosp roms ?????
Also what's your opinion on M8 vs G3 (3gb ram) , apart from cosmetic differences .
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Does the IR Blaster work with cm or other aosp roms ?????
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I'm not a user of AOSP ROMs on this phone; so I don't know. You'll have to check the ROM threads for more info; unless another user chimes in on this here.
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Also what's your opinion on M8 vs G3 (3gb ram) , apart from cosmetic differences .
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I've never been a big fan of LG devices. The plastic back is still a turnoff to me.
I've seen some folks post on here of switching from the G3 to the M8, and much preferring the M8. While I haven't seen any folks that have claimed the opposite; but maybe you'd need to go to the G3 forum section to read something like that!
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I'm not a user of AOSP ROMs on this phone; so I don't know. You'll have to check the ROM threads for more info; unless another user chimes in on this here.
I've never been a big fan of LG devices. The plastic back is still a turnoff to me.
I've seen some folks post on here of switching from the G3 to the M8, and much preferring the M8. While I haven't seen any folks that have claimed the opposite; but maybe you'd need to go to the G3 forum section to read something like that!
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Cool ... Thanks for your input !
I was just planning to buy a 801 based device for a long run ... I'm currently on Moto G (first Gen.) and this experience is pretty awesome .... It has lot's of development (all the rom are available) and also official Rom updates are regular . I some times wonder why m8 has so many problems in lollipop cm/aosp rom's ... Moto g had stable Rom's since January and M8 is still struggling to get a perfect stable Rom (battery,wifi/blutooth,speaker sound problems,no ambient display) .
jshamlet said:
Sprint and T-mobile are two different ball games. Sprint is CDMA, which means you really have to run a ROM designed for their network. Not all ROMs will run on a Sprint (and similarly, Verizon) device because of it. Also, a CDMA phone may support LTE data on a GSM network, but it will not have voice support. Going the other way isn't even an option, as Sprint only allows approved devices on its network, period. Keep that in mind.
T-mobile runs a GSM network, so as long as your firmware/radio supports all of the right frequencies, it will work just fine.
I will say that if you intend to do much carrier hopping, or plan on taking a device between carriers, you will want to S-off. Yes, it's $25, but that will save you a lot of aggravation in the long run. If you are S-off, you can alter the CID/MID of your phone, at which point you can update the firmware and radio to match the carrier you want to use. Then load a custom ROM on top of that.
Finally, S-off and bootloader unlock do not affect the SIM lock at all. That is controlled by the radio, so you will still need to deal with unlock codes. As far as I know, the T-mobile M8 still uses standard subsidy unlock codes, while the newer M9 uses their new "unlock app".
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Alright so a little bit of an update. I've got my phone on a carrier which I'll use as a daily driver, however I'd like to purchase the htc one m8 as somewhat of a wifi device only rather than one used on carrier LTE data. With this being said, you'd still recommend tmobile? Also if i look on ebay for unlocked tmobile phones alot of them say bad ESN or bad IMEI is this necessarily bad?
is it possible to convert a sprint htc 10 to unlocked Im fairly sure a vzw can be converted but i dont know about sprint... also are sprint varrients sim unlocked? I ask because they seem to be the cheapest in the us aftermarket...
update (found out how to sim unlock, just need to know if it can be converted?)
You *may* be able to install a ROM for that version, but you can't change the hardware, so I'd look in to what bands, frequencies, etc. that each can use.
THC Butterz said:
is it possible to convert a sprint htc 10 to unlocked Im fairly sure a vzw can be converted but i dont know about sprint... also are sprint varrients sim unlocked? I ask because they seem to be the cheapest in the us aftermarket...
update (found out how to sim unlock, just need to know if it can be converted?)
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What carrier? I have a Sprint variant working extremely well (Viper ROM Nougat) under T-Mobile, both bands 4(LTE) and 2(4G).
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is it possible to convert a sprint htc 10 to unlocked Im fairly sure a vzw can be converted but i dont know about sprint... also are sprint varrients sim unlocked? I ask because they seem to be the cheapest in the us aftermarket...
update (found out how to sim unlock, just need to know if it can be converted?)
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I converted my vzw to unlocked for use on T-Mobile. Zero problems.
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Yes. I have a sprint converted to us unlocked on ATT network. I had to S-Off, then use ADB to change CID to 111111 and MID to 2PS65, then run the US Unlocked RUU off HTC website.
bluemooncityzen225 said:
Yes. I have a sprint converted to us unlocked on ATT network. I had to S-Off, then use ADB to change CID to 111111 and MID to 2PS65, then run the US Unlocked RUU off HTC website.
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And you swapped the radio back to Sprint correct?
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And you swapped the radio back to Sprint correct?
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Well, to be completely honest, I am still in the Learning stages so I don't know if it were pure luck, but I originally didnt flash any Radio. I literally just ran the RUU, popped in ATT SIM, and it worked. However, I did later encounter a problem possibly related to this. I tried to apply an OTA zip update, and I flashed the Unlocked OTA. Which ended up making my IMEI disappear and the fix ended up being flashing the Sprint radio to the device. I'm still not sure, but I think the issue occurred bc even though my MID is US Unlocked my device still isn't technically US Unlocked so it was the wrong firmware. As for SIM unlocking, I followed the same thread for SIM unlocking the M9 using the NV and Basic Flasher Tools and it worked.
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Well, to be completely honest, I am still in the Learning stages so I don't know if it were pure luck, but I originally didnt flash any Radio. I literally just ran the RUU, popped in ATT SIM, and it worked. However, I did later encounter a problem possibly related to this. I tried to apply an OTA zip update, and I flashed the ATT OTA. Which ended up making my IMEI disappear and the fix ended up being flashing the Sprint radio to the device. I'm still not sure, but I think the issue occurred bc even though my MID is ATT's, my Device still isn't technically ATT so it was the wrong firmware. As for SIM unlocking, I followed the same thread for SIM unlocking the M9 using the NV and Basic Flasher Tools and it worked.
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That's very interesting, can you share the exact RUU you used?
Thanks for replying.
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That's very interesting, can you share the exact RUU you used?
Thanks for replying.
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Yes I can try to find it. Obviously it was more than just putting the SIM in, I had unlocked and S-off'd and what not before. I know it was the first Nougat firmware they had for the US Unlocked. I want to say I was on Sprint 1.81xXxX and the unlocked was 2.14xxxx. I'll look it up.
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That's very interesting, can you share the exact RUU you used?
Thanks for replying.
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Sorry it took so long, I was uploading the RUU I believe I used. I also have the sprint radio, stock recovery and a few other things in this folder. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ftaxcqmli8r0m40/AAANfuxJGiyyqaFWpAi6aDFfa?dl=0
And here's a link to the 1.80 US Unlocked RUU
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24591023225176310
bluemooncityzen225 said:
Sorry it took so long, I was uploading the RUU I believe I used. I also have the sprint radio, stock recovery and a few other things in this folder. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ftaxcqmli8r0m40/AAANfuxJGiyyqaFWpAi6aDFfa?dl=0
And here's a link to the 1.80 US Unlocked RUU
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24591023225176310
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Thank you very much for that.
I am currently SIM unlocked (NV Method), S-OFF and running Viper N with Sprint Radio. I am going to revert back to stock Sprint to replicate what you did.
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Thank you very much for that.
I am currently SIM unlocked (NV Method), S-OFF and running Viper N with Sprint Radio. I am going to revert back to stock Sprint to replicate what you did.
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Just so you know, Sunshine S-Off is all you need to sim unlock your phone.
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Just so you know, Sunshine S-Off is all you need to sim unlock your phone.
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I'm still unclear. I'm Verizon s-off. All I need to do is change my Cid to unlocked us then flash an unlocked ruu to change the radios so I can use T-Mobile? Of course I need to reflash twrp so I can get my Viper10 back on.
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Just so you know, Sunshine S-Off is all you need to sim unlock your phone.
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Are you positive about that? This was a Sprint locked device.
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I'm still unclear. I'm Verizon s-off. All I need to do is change my Cid to unlocked us then flash an unlocked ruu to change the radios so I can use T-Mobile? Of course I need to reflash twrp so I can get my Viper10 back on.
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Verizon LTE devices are SIM unlocked by default to all carriers.
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Verizon LTE devices are SIM unlocked by default to all carriers.
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Really? With all the bands? Also. I want to get wifi calling to work.
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Really? With all the bands? Also. I want to get wifi calling to work.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70104011&postcount=3
If you are on nougat firmware already, once you get CID setup, use the latest us unlocked RUU.
test everything on stock before throwing viper on
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Really? With all the bands? Also. I want to get wifi calling to work.
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Yes specifically 4G LTE devices. Without touching anything you should be able to insert a SIM for any GSM carrier and it will pick up a signal, and yes ALL LTE bands but I believe you may have to convert to another radio for better compatibility.
All other things you better off converting to US Unlocked or T-Mobile. Those have WiFi integrated for supported carriers.
Totally worked with my Verizon phone. Changed the cid in fastboot and flashed a no wipe us unlocked firmware from sneakyghost. Unfortunately it wiped everything, but I was backed up, so no biggie. Thanks everyone!
bluemooncityzen225 said:
Yes. I have a sprint converted to us unlocked on ATT network. I had to S-Off, then use ADB to change CID to 111111 and MID to 2PS65, then run the US Unlocked RUU off HTC website.
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Sorry to dredge up such an old post, but google led me here. Do you know if it's possible to run the RUU off of HTC website on Linux? I tried installing HTC SyncManager via Wine and it kept crashing.
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Sorry to dredge up such an old post, but google led me here. Do you know if it's possible to run the RUU off of HTC website on Linux? I tried installing HTC SyncManager via Wine and it kept crashing.
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It depends what format the RUU is in. If it is .exe then no. If it is .zip it should work
I have Verizon's m9 with unlocked bootloader, s-off, rooted and aim unlocked with total wireless as my carrier on Verizon network. I've changed my mid to 0PJA11000 and my Cid to BS_US001. The rim I'm on is the latest ice port. Not the nougat rom but I have been on the nougat. I kinda bounce between the ice marshmallow and nougat roms because their great roms but to make a long story short when I run the RUU it tells me error 156: system image. What am I doing wrong?
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I have Verizon's m9 with unlocked bootloader, s-off, rooted and aim unlocked with total wireless as my carrier on Verizon network. I've changed my mid to 0PJA11000 and my Cid to BS_US001. The rim I'm on is the latest ice port. Not the nougat rom but I have been on the nougat. I kinda bounce between the ice marshmallow and nougat roms because their great roms but to make a long story short when I run the RUU it tells me error 156: system image. What am I doing wrong?
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Yikes. Have you read through the readme thread? The biggest problem is changing your SKU between CDMA and GSM software - you'll lucky to avoid bricking your phone.
#1. Stop flashing anything on your phone
#2. Read the readme thread to get a handle on what you need to know.
#3. Determine your phone's original CID and Mid before going any further.
Thanks. Your right I needed to read it. My original mid is 0PJA30000/CID is VZW_001. I'm kinda confused about my variant because I originally bought it from page plus which also uses the Verizon network. I'm not locked in to Verizon so why is everything done in Verizon's time.
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Thanks. Your right I needed to read it. My original mid is 0PJA30000/CID is VZW_001. I'm kinda confused about my variant because I originally bought it from page plus which also uses the Verizon network. I'm not locked in to Verizon so why is everything done in Verizon's time.
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I'm sure Page Plus sold you the Verizon variant because they use Verizon's network and that was what was compatible. In any case, you've got the Verizon version.
That model is a CDMA model - which means that your phone is only compatible with firmware specifically made for that CID & MID. Unlike GSM models, CDMA firmware is made specifically for each model and is not interchangeable even between other CDMA firmwares - and GSM firmware is even less compatible. Attempting to do flash any firmware that isn't specifically for your original CID & MID will mess up your phone, possibly permanently.
I recommend restoring your original CID & MID and applying the appropriate firmware via RUU right away.
I have been trying to check imei status online it showed another model of Htc one m9 which is Hima-UHL which dev edition instead of showing Hima-Whl which is Sprint, I dont know but i have already tried checking imei at Sprint website but it says It seems this device does not belong to US sprint carrier, although Once I've flashed Att firmware then ruu it was succesfully flashed except one thing the baseband and wifi wasnt working, then i've tried to flash the sprint radio image and the result was that it fixed only wifi issue, still sim wasnt detected, when i reverted back to sprint, its gone sim locked then i've used nv method to unlock it and back to everything the way it was, and then i checked imei on att website it said device is compatible but we are not able to find correct sim card
Still I'm confused so much what the **** im not understanding
Please help attachments included
Helps would be appreciated
P.S when on att rom it did not said phone is sim locked
If you want details from the phone boot to download mode, plug it into a pc and run fastboot getvar /all.
You identify the phone from its sku, cid and mid. Just because you flashed a sprint firmware and WiFi started working doesn't mean it used to be a sprint phone.. You also have to remember that it is very easy to change the region etc on htc phones.
The main concern is finding out if its a cdma or a gsm device.
Cid is super one
Mid is 0PJA2000
How to find skuid??
Flashing GSM firmware on a CDMA device or vice versa can result in unrecoverable hardware damages if you're unlucky. The partition layouts of CDMA devices are completely different and not compatible with the GSM ones. Even the layouts of the different CDMA versions (Sprint vs. Verizon) aren't compatible with each other.
Looking at CID, MID and SKU after the phone got converted won't help at all. Each time you convert the phone those values get changed. You won't be able to find out the original values by using fastboot getvar, at this point.
If you're lucky and no one ever tinkered with the hardware of the M9* then you should be able to find out the original MID by looking at the engraving on the backside of the phone. Be aware that the engraving lacks two zeros in comparison to the MID that you get from fastboot getvar. We would still need to guess the original CID and the original SKU but if you really own a CDMA phone that shouldn't be too hard.
* In other words: If no one replaced the back-plate at some point.
Btw, checking your IMEI online is everything else than fale safe. I wouldn't rely on the results. As long as the original hardware is unmodified, looking at the engraving is the best method for finding out which version of the M9 you own.
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ModelID on back plate is 0PJA200
Saying if it results in unrecoverable faults, how can i still flash gsm firmware on sprint??
And i bought this phone second hand, thing is My imei is not detected on official sprint website
And when i got that phone the CiD was SPCS_001
MID was same as 0PJA20000
Assuming that the back-plate didn't get changed, the engraving means that you own a Sprint M9.
As said in my last post, those online IMEI checks are [email protected] You get plenty of false results if you use them. You aren't the first M9 user here on xda that thought they own a GSM phone after checking its IMEI although in reality it's a CDMA device.
You or the previous owner set the phone S-OFF. That's how the ability to flash GSM RUUs got unlocked. S-OFF means in simple words that (almost) all of the phone's write-protection gets removed. Normally it would deny a GSM RUU due to the mismatching MID&CID. With S-OFF you can change them manually, though. Therefore, the phone more or less accepts everything you try to flash on it. No matter whether the file is compatible with the phone or not.
The emphasis in my warning lies on "can". It's a known fact that the partitions differ. The thing is that sometimes people that flash a wrong firmware are lucky and their phone doesn't get damaged and sometimes the broken sim detection and the lost Wi-Fi signal aren't recoverable even after flashing the original firmware of the phone.
Edit: Owners of an M9 are actually lucky, that HTC changed the partitions layout enough for making the phone still able to boot after flashing the wrong firmware. The M8 or any other model that is older than the M9 wouldn't boot, anymore, in that case and would become a fancy paperweight.
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Ok thanks man <3
Definitely my fault should've got brand new model
@Saad Saleem
My choice of words for the explanation of S-OFF wasn't the best. If you didn't do so already, I'd like you to re-read my last post since it's overhauled, now.
So I recently moved to a rural part of Ohio, and Verizon is about the only carrier that works here. I have an HTC 10 T-Mobile variant that I Sunshine S-Off'ed and flashed to an HTC branded phone. T-Mobile just game me my SIM Unlock code, and the phone does recognize the new Verizon Sim card. However there is no service at all. So do I still need to flash a firmware?
I really need this to operate on VZW service instead of T-Mobile.
Anyone successfully done this? IS it simple and I'm just missing something?
Thanks in advance.
scothern99 said:
So I recently moved to a rural part of Ohio, and Verizon is about the only carrier that works here. I have an HTC 10 T-Mobile variant that I Sunshine S-Off'ed and flashed to an HTC branded phone. T-Mobile just game me my SIM Unlock code, and the phone does recognize the new Verizon Sim card. However there is no service at all. So do I still need to flash a firmware?
I really need this to operate on VZW service instead of T-Mobile.
Anyone successfully done this? IS it simple and I'm just missing something?
Thanks in advance.
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You'll need to have the verizon radio running on it. You could just flash that, as mentioned here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-10/how-to/vzw-how-to-unlocked-model-vzw-t3376743
In that case you may also need to reset your radio settings to get full service, and it's also described in that thread.
Or, better in my opinion, change your cid and mid and flash the verizon ruu.
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You'll need to have the verizon radio running on it. You could just flash that, as mentioned here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-10/how-to/vzw-how-to-unlocked-model-vzw-t3376743
In that case you may also need to reset your radio settings to get full service, and it's also described in that thread.
Or, better in my opinion, change your cid and mid and flash the verizon ruu.
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Hey thanks! I will look at both options. I am going to use Straight Talk for the carrier since its dirt cheap. I jsut need it to operate on VZW towers.
Thanks again.
Tarima said:
You'll need to have the verizon radio running on it. You could just flash that, as mentioned here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-10/how-to/vzw-how-to-unlocked-model-vzw-t3376743
In that case you may also need to reset your radio settings to get full service, and it's also described in that thread.
Or, better in my opinion, change your cid and mid and flash the verizon ruu.
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Do you know where I can get the instructions for the MID/CID and the RUU files? Its been a while since I changed mine. I would like to try the verizon thing first and see if it works on straight talk. IF not, I would like to be able to flash back to TMO so I at least have a working phone.
scothern99 said:
Do you know where I can get the instructions for the MID/CID and the RUU files? Its been a while since I changed mine. I would like to try the verizon thing first and see if it works on straight talk. IF not, I would like to be able to flash back to TMO so I at least have a working phone.
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Conversion process is described here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-10/how-to/guide-convert-unlocked-to-verizon-t3380615
Verizon RUUs are found here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...rizon-official-ruu-1-19-605-9-t3377586/page85
I'd use a Nougat RUU from the above link until you're sure you're sure you wanna stick with the Verizon software. If you install the Oreo RUU, and then downgrade back to T-Mobile which is still on Nougat, you'll lose your radio and will need to to an extra step to get it back.