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Any reason NOT to root brand new GNEX?

I'm receiving a new Galaxy Nexus in the mail today. I'm new to the Android world but this site has been extremely helpful in explaining the capabilitys of this OS. Since I've never used Android I don't completely understand the pros/cons to rooting my device. A lot of posts say "you have to do it to understand the benefits" or something of that nature. I understand that once you root you can change your ROM, kernel, navigate all file folders, use certain apps that require superuser access, etc. As of now, I'm not sure I'd want to do any of that. I may want to in the future when I see some limitations that could be bypassed by rooting, but for now I would like to keep the stock ROM, kernel, etc.
It's possible to keep everything stock when rooted, correct? So it would function the same as a stock device but would have the potential to be modified later. If an updated Android OS version is released, can I download and install it the same as anyone with an unrooted stock device?
Is there any disadvantage to rooting? Why would anyone NOT root their device? I'm just thinking that if I'd do it eventually, I might as well do it right now when there are no valuable files/apps/etc. that I'd have to worry about backing up.

People often root to flash aosp roms otherwise not available on htc or galaxy s phones
Aosp also in many cases gave better battery life than their skinned cousins
But on nexus phones and jelly bean I don't see much of one other than to experiment or to use addons like roms such as codename android and baked bean give
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Sent from my Jelly Bean powered Nexus Snarf 4G

The main reason I root is for Titanium Backup. That is probably the only way to migrate apps (with data) from one device to another.
Also nandroid (Clockworkmod Recovery) backup is useful if you want to experiment with different ROMs and can restore stock and apps easily.
On a side note: Don't like CWM 6 when backup creates a huge BLOB directory structure. Not convenient to backup your backup to PC.

Backups
Free Tethering
Block ads
etc

Tethering is enabled already. Ah u probably must be talking about the us version. I have the international one.
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I root for Paranoid Android and Titanium Backup. Two things I can't be without once getting used to them.
But really. Installing Titanium Backup almost feels like a necessity on Any phone to freeze/backup apps detach them from market etc.

I appreciate the responses but you guys aren't really answering my questions...
It's possible to keep everything stock when rooted, correct?
If an updated Android OS version is released, can I download and install it the same as anyone with an unrooted stock device?
Is there any disadvantage to rooting? Why would anyone NOT root their device?

bchaney16 said:
I appreciate the responses but you guys aren't really answering my questions...
It's possible to keep everything stock when rooted, correct?
If an updated Android OS version is released, can I download and install it the same as anyone with an unrooted stock device?
Is there any disadvantage to rooting? Why would anyone NOT root their device?
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Yes you can be stock & rooted. Root by itself will not affect an OTA. The only reason to root is if YOU gain something. If your phone dose everything you want without root then there is no reason to root.

bchaney16 said:
I appreciate the responses but you guys aren't really answering my questions...
It's possible to keep everything stock when rooted, correct?
If an updated Android OS version is released, can I download and install it the same as anyone with an unrooted stock device?
Is there any disadvantage to rooting? Why would anyone NOT root their device?
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Yes u can stay stock and rooted.
If u root and take an update you will most likely loose root or you will have to unroot before u can take the update. One of the 2.
Biggest disadvantage is that it voids warranty. But no big deal if u no how to go back to stock.
People that don't root probably don't because they don't how, are scared to and/or they don't want to void that precious warranty.
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bchaney16 said:
I appreciate the responses but you guys aren't really answering my questions...
1. It's possible to keep everything stock when rooted, correct?
2. If an updated Android OS version is released, can I download and install it the same as anyone with an unrooted stock device?
3. Is there any disadvantage to rooting? Why would anyone NOT root their device?
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1. Yes
2. Yes. Though root disappears if you update officially OTA. So then you need to re-root. If you would also unlock bootloader and install CWM you can not update OTA.
3. Umm. I guess some manufacturers claims that warranty is void when rooting. That's pretty much the only not-to reason I can think of. If rooted only and don't "use it" you won't even notice you're rooted.

bchaney16 said:
I'm just thinking that if I'd do it eventually, I might as well do it right now when there are no valuable files/apps/etc. that I'd have to worry about backing up.
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It's unlocking the bootlaoder (fastbbot oem unlock) that will (not Play Store devices) wipe the device, not rooting (though the easiest way to root is to unlock the bootloader).

Ok I think its becoming more clear now.
I ordered mine unlocked from the Play Store. Does that mean the bootloader is already unlocked?
How often does an OTA come out anyway?

bchaney16 said:
Ok I think its becoming more clear now.
I ordered mine unlocked from the Play Store. Does that mean the bootloader is already unlocked?
How often does an OTA come out anyway?
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No, that refers to SIM unlocked, not tied to a specific carrier.
[REF] efrant's "Android for Galaxy Nexus" 101 & FAQs
If your new to Android this is a good place to start getting acquainted with the terminoligy & procedures

Right, I know it is carrier unlocked. So a Play Store GNEX still has a locked bootloader but unlocking it does not erase your files...
If that's the case I guess there's no downside to waiting until I see a good reason to unlock and root. I was thinking that I should do this on my brand new phone so that it wouldn't have any files on it that I'd need to backup. It sounds like I wouldn't have to worry about backing up regardless.

The only reason I can think of to unlock the bootloader straight away (& it's arguably a good one) ...
If for some reason your phone won't boot into android you could fastboot boot a custom recovery & have adb access to pull files from the virtual sdcard.

Rooting is the best thing to happen to Android phones. Do it.
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bchaney16 said:
Right, I know it is carrier unlocked. So a Play Store GNEX still has a locked bootloader but unlocking it does not erase your files...
If that's the case I guess there's no downside to waiting until I see a good reason to unlock and root. I was thinking that I should do this on my brand new phone so that it wouldn't have any files on it that I'd need to backup. It sounds like I wouldn't have to worry about backing up regardless.
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Yes it will. Unlocking the bootloader via fastboot oem unlock will erase /sdcard. Does not matter if you get if from the play store or not. But like you said, if the device is brand new it doesn't matter anyway.
Side note: recently an exploit is discovered that allows to gain root without unlocking the bootloader. And if you have root, you can unlock/lock the bootloader at will without losing data. Follow the link in my signature for more info.

Petrovski80 said:
Yes it will. Unlocking the bootloader via fastboot oem unlock will erase /sdcard. Does not matter if you get if from the play store or not. But like you said, if the device is brand new it doesn't matter anyway.
Side note: recently an exploit is discovered that allows to gain root without unlocking the bootloader. And if you have root, you can unlock/lock the bootloader at will without losing data. Follow the link in my signature for more info.
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There were numerous reports that Play Store phones did NOT wipe all data when the bootloader was unlocked, I know mine didn't

3rdstring said:
There were numerous reports that Play Store phones did NOT wipe all data when the bootloader was unlocked, I know mine didn't
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Was your /sdcard partition untouched after oem unlock?

Petrovski80 said:
Was your /sdcard partition untouched after oem unlock?
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Yes, the data partition was untouched. All my apps & sdcard data was still there.
[DISCUSSION] Google Play Nexus not wiping after Bootloader Unlock

how do i root my LG G3 d855 - without changing timers etc ( safest way)

Hi all
I recently purchased an LG G3 mobile and it is running lollipop 5.0 on o2 and I would like to change a few things 1. change the colour of that orange top in the messaging app - people have told me I need root for this so my question is:
What is the best and safest root process for me to use as I have never rooted before and havnt got a clue, I just do not want to break the mobile as its brand new. I don't want it to change any counters, timers, warrantys or do anything else and especially I do NOT want it to stop me getting OTA android updates
thank you hope somebody can help me cheers

[Guide]LG One Click Root - root LG firmwares (KitKat / Lollipop)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-root-lg-firmwares-kitkat-lollipop-t3056951

arnie2012 said:
Hi all
I recently purchased an LG G3 mobile and it is running lollipop 5.0 on o2 and I would like to change a few things 1. change the colour of that orange top in the messaging app - people have told me I need root for this so my question is:
What is the best and safest root process for me to use as I have never rooted before and havnt got a clue, I just do not want to break the mobile as its brand new. I don't want it to change any counters, timers, warrantys or do anything else and especially I do NOT want it to stop me getting OTA android updates
thank you hope somebody can help me cheers
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Hi there.
As soon as you root any phone you immediately lose your warranty. However if you ever need to send it for repair, you can easily revert the process these days.
LG, unlike Samsung, has not what you call "timers" meaning a record if you have rooted and how many times you have flashed your phone so you are pretty safe on that aspect as LG cannot tell. Even on Samsung these days there are ways to revert the so called "timers" to null.
Once you root your phone you will also lose the capability of OTA's but as I said this can be easily undone...you unroot, update the OTA and root again. (if a root method is available for that specific version of OTA which usually is and if not it comes out usually in a few days/weeks)
Hope this clarifies your doubts.
***One word of advice: read, read and read. Rooting and flashing custom ROMS is fun and custom ROMS are way better than stock. Just take your time to learn and don't be in a hurry. This way nothing will happen to your phone.
Hope this helps you and if I did please press the thanks button.

droidbits said:
Hi there.
As soon as you root any phone you immediately lose your warranty. However if you ever need to send it for repair, you can easily revert the process these days.
LG, unlike Samsung, has not what you call "timers" meaning a record if you have rooted and how many times you have flashed your phone so you are pretty safe on that aspect as LG cannot tell. Even on Samsung these days there are ways to revert the so called "timers" to null.
Once you root your phone you will also lose the capability of OTA's but as I said this can be easily undone...you unroot, update the OTA and root again. (if a root method is available for that specific version of OTA which usually is and if not it comes out usually in a few days/weeks)
Hope this clarifies your doubts.
***One word of advice: read, read and read. Rooting and flashing custom ROMS is fun and custom ROMS are way better than stock. Just take your time to learn and don't be in a hurry. This way nothing will happen to your phone.
Hope this helps you and if I did please press the thanks button.
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thank you very much for your info, so I shall just use the link posted about and root that way. Although I DO NOT intend to use a custom rom. one of the reasons I want to root is to get rid of the stupid Mcafee app that comes on the LG G3

arnie2012 said:
thank you very much for your info, so I shall just use the link posted about and root that way. Although I DO NOT intend to use a custom rom. one of the reasons I want to root is to get rid of the stupid Mcafee app that comes on the LG G3
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Yes mate just follow that tutorial and you will be alright. Don't forget to read well first so that you will know what you are doing and nothing wrong will happen.
You don't have to install custom ROMS though. There are an immense amount of things you will be able to do to your phone once rooted.
Enjoy!

Q: root or not

Hi,
i kinda wanna root to gre off this stupid stock apps and use xposed. Is it worth it? will i loose options to get official update? I am new to htc, used to have samsung, and everything was easy there, and had tons of roms.

klemen241 said:
Hi,
i kinda wanna root to gre off this stupid stock apps and use xposed. Is it worth it? will i loose options to get official update? I am new to htc, used to have samsung, and everything was easy there, and had tons of roms.
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You should wait for the lollipop update to arrive, then you may root the phone. Unlocking the bootloader and thereafter rooting it will result in not being able to get official updates.
This phone isn't that popular which is why there aren't any roms as of yet. But they will come as soon as someone begins development for the phone.

Looking for an actual root-method for amami 5.1.1 Lollipop

Hey guys!
First I have to explain that I'm German and englisch is not my native language.
Second thing is, I'm a complete newbie to the whole smartphone/android stuff.
My Z1c was almost unused since I bought it. I'll need it for now and want to root it and have an actual, stable and secure system/ROM on it. Therefore I'm looking for an "easy" method to root and unlock the bootloader. (I never rooted a phone so far)
Tried KingoRoot and Towelroot but doesn't worked. Google only showed "old" methods, so I rather ask here before bricking.
If it's possible I would prefer an other method for unlocking the bootloader than the official/ legit via Sony HP...
Have a way more questions after rooting and unlocking. Be warned! :laugh:
Edit: Is this (search4rootsdotcom) trustworthy?

3dg4r Fr13ndly said:
Hey guys!
First I have to explain that I'm German and englisch is not my native language.
Second thing is, I'm a complete newbie to the whole smartphone/android stuff.
My Z1c was almost unused since I bought it. I'll need it for now and want to root it and have an actual, stable and secure system/ROM on it. Therefore I'm looking for an "easy" method to root and unlock the bootloader. (I never rooted a phone so far)
Tried KingoRoot and Towelroot but doesn't worked. Google only showed "old" methods, so I rather ask here before bricking.
If it's possible I would prefer an other method for unlocking the bootloader than the official/ legit via Sony HP...
Have a way more questions after rooting and unlocking. Be warned! :laugh:
Edit: Is this (search4rootsdotcom) trustworthy?
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Not sure why you don't want to use Sony unlocking method, and also can't imagine who besides Sony would have the unlock code. Once you have the code, you could use Flashtool to unlock, but you have to go through Sony to get the code.
If you do unlock bl, rooting is easy, via fastboot/adb. If bl is locked, Kingroot works, (not sure which version you tried, but latest version is proven to work - I've done it myself at least 3 times). Most people prefer not to use Kingroot as a permanent root manager, but once you're rooted, it's easy to switch to whatever you want.
Many stable and very good rooms to choose from.

Once you got yourself TWRP 3 running you have a lot of options to choose from.
I've been modding my Z1C for two years now and i'm positive that for normal usage AOSP roms don't make the cut, there have been multiple occasions with AOSP / CM roms where i had bugs with latest YouTube app versions, random shutdowns and over-average battery consumption in idle despite kernel tweaking which are all not present in stock-based roms. I was using a slightly modded 14.6.A.236 for most of 2015 until now which worked fine but i cluttered the phone too much so it became super slow and almost unusable. I've very recently backed up everything and clean-flashed DStrikerZ1 rom because it's the most-followed rom for the Z1C and i have to say i'm positively surprised by it's UX performance and overall style. Once i know how to fix my mobile network* i'll probably recommend it but until then you might just wanna flash stock .236, root and then de-bloat using TitaniumBackup (or whatever you prefer) which i know will definitely be bullet-proof.
By the way i'm also from Germany so feel free to hit me up for questions, i'll help where i can.
*Edit: Mobile network working, just had to mess with the internet service provider settings a bit. That makes DStrikerZ the best rom i've used so far on this phone.

Much appreciate guys!
I've got the unlock code and will do it tomorrow.
Read all over about absolutely making an TA-Backup BEFORE unlocking the bootloader cuz of loosing the Bravia Engine, DRM-Keys and Track-ID so I was uncertain....

Root Without Unlocking Bootloader

Hi. I am about to purchase a Huawei Mate SE and wanted to know if there is a way to root without unlocking the bootloader. It looks like Kingroot and/or Kingoroot might be an option. I'm not new to rooting phones so I understand most of the basics. From what I read, I won't be able to install a custom recovery and therefore can't install custom ROMs which is fine. I mainly want root for apps like Titanium Backup and Greenify. I don't want to lose the ability to OTA. Is this possible? Thanks in advance for the help.

Kingroot and kingoroot are hot piles of garbage on oreo, and nougat. Pretty sure it only works up to lollipop.
Only way to root is to flash Magisk, and that requires an unlocked bootloader.

Dang. That sucks. Thanks for the response though

no need to install a custom recovery to get root. unlockbootloder densest effect ota. after u unlock ur bootloader you can flash a patch kernel that has Magisk

ReppinTheSouth said:
Dang. That sucks. Thanks for the response though
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I just ordered this phone also. You should be able to get your bootloader unlocked with a service. See threads.
I sure hope so. Cause i plan on doing some stuff with this device.

Unlocking the bootloader is not difficult, but then there is a stupid bootloader unlocked warning that comes every time the phone restarts. And supposedly there is no way to turn it off for Huawei phones