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I,ve just replaced a nexus7 2013 after i hit the multitouch problem,everything was fine with it whilst it was running build JWR66N,but then i got a notification to update to the latest version.
I was reluctant to do so,but eventually decided to take the plunge,so i updated,it put build JSS15Q on my nexus...result was terrible multitouch issues,basically the update had inflicted my "working perfectly tablet" with the dreaded multitouch issue,needless to say i was gutted.
My new nexus again comes with the JWR66N build,my question is,can i stop the tablet auto downloading the new update(JSS15Q),i know i don't actually have to install it,but i was told that if i power of my nexus,it will automatically install the update when i reboot,is this true?
Don't want to go anywhere near that JSS15Q update,or any future updates at all if possible.
To be honest,i'm not that interested in having bleeding edge versions,if my nexus works flawlessly on the JWR66N build then i could'nt care less if i never updated ever again,if it ain't broke,don't fix it.
You should look at the two posts in my signature. They will cover everything you need.
BTW the update won't automatically install when you reboot. You can also turn off the notification in the framework services configuration.
sfhub said:
You should look at the two posts in my signature. They will cover everything you need.
BTW the update won't automatically install when you reboot. You can also turn off the notification in the framework services configuration.
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Okay,thanks Sfhub,can I just ask though,I have the jss15q update sitting in my notification panel,until I specifically allow it,will it just stay there,I mean,will it at some point install itself without any action by me.
What happens if I reboot,will that instigate the update process.
As long as I'M in control of when it gets installed I'm happy,I know it fixes the GPS issue,but I literally never use GPS,so I'm not bothered about fixing that.
Would really really appreciate some help on this,cheers pal
wildcat777 said:
I have the jss15q update sitting in my notification panel,until I specifically allow it,will it just stay there,
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settings->apps->all->google services framework
uncheck show notifications
if you get tired of the notification (it'll probably get rid of other Google notifications also)
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I mean,will it at some point install itself without any action by me.
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This shouldn't happen, though you might hit the notification by accident then panic and ask it to continue.
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What happens if I reboot,will that instigate the update process.
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This won't happen.
wildcat777 said:
As long as I'M in control of when it gets installed I'm happy,I know it fixes the GPS issue,but I literally never use GPS,so I'm not bothered about fixing that.
Would really really appreciate some help on this,cheers pal
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If you ever just want the GPS fix by itself with no other changes, the link is in my signature.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2421373
Thanks Sfhub,really appreciate your quick reply and the info,that's really set my mind at rest.
Once again,cheers pal
Are there any important difference between NOF26V and NDE63P updates? Any advantages or disadvantages between the two?
I have a Verizon Pixel XL that arrived about a week ago. It came with NDE63P. I immediately enabled developer options and disabled automatic system updates. I have not yet decided if I am going to unlock the bootloader, and I am not asking for advice on whether or not I should. I am trying to keep my options open. I like to keep things simple, which is why I like the Nexus and Pixel phones. Taking an OTA is much easier than sideloading an update. But there are still good reasons to unlock/root.
I am still weighing my options. I don't feel any need to rush right now.
I've read of people having bluetooth or battery issues, none of which I am experiencing right now on NDE63P. Until I make a decision, is there anything other than current security updates that NOF26V fixes or breaks?
Thanks!
Here is a great big disadvantage to taking it as your device sits now. Any ota you take before unlocking the bootloader renders it un-unlockable. So, theres your choice. Unlock and take any otas you want and maintain the ability to customize or not, or, leave it locked, take an ota, and no more choices. You decide.
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Here is a great big disadvantage to taking it as your device sits now. Any ota you take before unlocking the bootloader renders it un-unlockable. So, theres your choice. Unlock and take any otas you want and maintain the ability to customize or not, or, leave it locked, take an ota, and no more choices. You decide.
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I am completely aware of that. That is why I disabled automatic system updates, so I can make this decision after I have had a chance to use the device and decide what changes, if any, I want to make. I am just trying to make an informed decision on my own.
Are there any key differences, pros or cons, between NDE63P and the current NOF26V?
stm8 said:
I am completely aware of that. That is why I disabled automatic system updates, so I can make this decision after I have had a chance to use the device and decide what changes, if any, I want to make. I am just trying to make an informed decision on my own.
Are there any key differences, pros or cons, between NDE63P and the current NOF26V?
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Many people have disabled the updates but then it mysteriously updates itself and then cry for an unlock, so we are warning you is all. The difference between the 2 is mainly security updates but they did add a few features, like waking the phone can't remember exactly what. Some small tweaks and fixes too. There's change logs somewhere.
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Many people have disabled the updates but then it mysteriously updates itself and then cry for an unlock, so we are warning you is all. The difference between the 2 is mainly security updates but they did add a few features, like waking the phone can't remember exactly what. Some small tweaks and fixes too. There's change logs somewhere.
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Thanks. I have read about the mystery updates happening despite disabling automatic updates.
I'll review the change logs, but Google doesn't usually list their "bugs" in the change logs...
The Bluetooth issues seem the typical phantom Android issues that come and go. There are the emoji and long press shortcuts that come with 7.1.1. That is about it, not much has changed.
So I don't think you need to update any time soon.
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I am still weighing my options. I don't feel any need to rush right now.
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Weighing your options? You have 2 options, unlock or don't unlock. What's the dilemma? Ok, so here ya go. 50% say unlock and the other 50% say stay locked. Solved?
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Weighing your options? You have 2 options, unlock or don't unlock. What's the dilemma? Ok, so here ya go. 50% say unlock and the other 50% say stay locked. Solved?
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I am not asking advice about whether or not to unlock, just the differences/bugs/upgrades between these updates.
TonikJDK said:
The Bluetooth issues seem the typical phantom Android issues that come and go. There are the emoji and long press shortcuts that come with 7.1.1. That is about it, not much has changed.
So I don't think you need to update any time soon.
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Thanks, I appreciate it. That's the kind of info I am looking for!
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I am not asking advice about whether or not to unlock, just the differences/bugs/upgrades between these updates.
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I understand that but you first need to decide if you're going to unlock or keep the bootloader locked. Because, at some point you "will" upgrade whether or not you are in a rush. I'm just not getting your dilemma. Google has resources which you can search that outline what has changed besides the security updates which you obviously should get. And as you know if you stay locked and update then you're stuck. So once again, your options are to lock or unlock not whether to update or not.
TonikJDK said:
The Bluetooth issues seem the typical phantom Android issues that come and go. There are the emoji and long press shortcuts that come with 7.1.1. That is about it, not much has changed.
So I don't think you need to update any time soon.
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Are you certain?
https://www.google.com/amp/www.gott...ruary-android-nougat-update-what-to-know/amp/
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bobby janow said:
Are you certain?
https://www.google.com/amp/www.gott...ruary-android-nougat-update-what-to-know/amp/
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I wasn't 100 percent sure until your link, thanks. From the article:
"From what we’re seeing and hearing the February Android 7.1.1 Nougat update doesn’t actually have any other changes. There are no new features, bug fixes, or performance tweaks. This is simply a security update, like we can expect to see at the beginning of each month."
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I wasn't 100 percent sure until your link, thanks. From the article:
"From what we’re seeing and hearing the February Android 7.1.1 Nougat update doesn’t actually have any other changes. There are no new features, bug fixes, or performance tweaks. This is simply a security update, like we can expect to see at the beginning of each month."
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The problem is that Google doesn't exactly advertise or even admit to any bugs introduced in their updates, whether it's firmware or applications.
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The problem is that Google doesn't exactly advertise or even admit to any bugs introduced in their updates, whether it's firmware or applications.
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Very true, and Google doesn't disclose fixes much either. So all we can do is give the OP our opinion and experience. I have not seen any bugs fixed, or seen any introduced on my phone. So if he wants to wait while he decides on unlocking i dont think he is missing much. I stand by my advice.
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Very true, and Google doesn't disclose fixes much either. So all we can do is give the OP our opinion and experience. I have not seen any bugs fixed, or seen any introduced on my phone. So if he wants to wait while he decides on unlocking i dont think he is missing much. I stand by my advice.
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But you selectively left out the important part.
Overall we spotted 35 changes to the February Nougat release. At least according to Google’s security blog and change log. That said, eight of them were considered “critical” and needed to be addressed right away.
It's ridiculous to wait. There are bug fixes, You just need to search for them. Personally I don't care what he does, but then he is taking a security chance. I think your advice is wrong. His choice.
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So now that people are getting 7.0, can we get some feedback? I'm itching to upgrade, but 6.0.1 works so well that I'm scared. Battery life? Performance? Pros, cons?
Edit: Also please detail your upgrade path, eg. Did you hard reset / wipe data? Did you sideload the OTA or are you running a ROM?
Battery's same as MM
Performance same as MM
All working.
Pros: Multitasking (Window's way)
Better notification bar and settings
Root it's now available
Can change the DPI without failures.
Settings redesigned.
Cons: Isn't Xposed available...Yet.
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kevinblackwell said:
Battery's same as MM
Performance same as MM
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Did you do a hard reset as well, or just an upgrade with existing data? If upgrade, you haven't had the stuttering issues I've seen reported?
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Did you do a hard reset as well, or just an upgrade with existing data? If upgrade, you haven't had the stuttering issues I've seen reported?
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I upgrade with TWRP thanks to @flashallthetime
Follow his instructions and all be good.
No bugs for me. No issues.
I did a dirty flash, so no hard reset
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I upgrade with TWRP thanks to @flashallthetime
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Ok, sounds like you flashed a ROM then. Thanks
I received OTA update. No stuttering issue.. Performance is top notch. Battery life is awesome just like MM. Coming from 5X i have been missing double tapping recents to switch between apps on MM, but since the update I'm super happy
I have some stuttering / lagging when I swipe through the homescreens and open the notification drawer.
Performed OTA upgrade in the reteu channel. Seems not a too big issue, but still noticable.
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I have some stuttering / lagging when I swipe through the homescreens and open the notification drawer.
Performed OTA upgrade in the reteu channel. Seems not a too big issue, but still noticable.
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When did you get your OTA and what is your location?
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When did you get your OTA and what is your location?
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Germany. Got it on 13th February.
Ten days on and it still hasn't rolled out. I wonder if they've found a problem of some kind.
Probably the performance issues hold up the global rollout.
I sideloaded the reteu OTA a week ago. So far there is no change from MM on battery life and performances, the phone is still smooth and super reactive. What I consider as an improvement over MM are the notifications, the split screen and switch between the last two apps, the notification volume fix (gave me a heart attack the first time I got an SMS) and the DPI changer.
I didn't clear the cache not factory reseted the phone, I just sideloaded the OTA like I would've done with a regular OTA.
Is Now on Tap available on Nougat? I highly depend on that.
A link to my short review of sideloaded RETEU in another thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71222470&postcount=1365
Bottom line: I have no issues, everything runs very well. Nougat is the best Android so far for me.
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Is Now on Tap available on Nougat? I highly depend on that.
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Yes, it is. It's a Google Play Services related setting.
Ok,so i tried nougat (the prerooted one from here) and went back to MM cause i dont like the display colours on nougat.they look washed to me.i like it better in marshmallow.maybe just me,maybe just the rom.and i had problems with whatsapp notifications.
Any retus owners get the nougat update yet? I'm using a custom ROM right now so I don't know.
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Any retus owners get the nougat update yet? I'm using a custom ROM right now so I don't know.
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Nope. I'm giving it another couple weeks
I received the ota update and did a factory reset. The only problem I'm facing so far is that I miss a lot of notifications of Gmail and Whatsapp mainly. I have to wake up the phone or even open the app to get the new mails and messages. Could this have some to do with the battery optimization options? In MM the same settings where set with no issues.
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I received the ota update and did a factory reset. The only problem I'm facing so far is that I miss a lot of notifications of Gmail and Whatsapp mainly. I have to wake up the phone or even open the app to get the new mails and messages. Could this have some to do with the battery optimization options? In MM the same settings where set with no issues.
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I've had this same issue with Gmail notifications on marshmallow for years now. I don't think it's a nougat thing
New update for me to install. I downloaded it, but haven't installed it yet.
I'm in the US on the Sprint network. Showed the August 2017 security update. I can't remember if there were other fixes or updates. It was only 168mb.
Just had it pop on mine in the last 5 minutes... On AT&T in North Dakota, already 50% though updating... I grabbed the url though: https://mobilesupport.lenovo.com/us/en/solution/MS122856
Moto G5 Plus - Maintenance Release Notes
INTRODUCTION
Motorola is excited to announce a new software update for Moto G5 Plus by Motorola. This update brings important improvements to your phone.
For more information on Motorola updates and repairs, visit us at www.motorola.com/mymotog.
NOTE: You cannot downgrade to a previous software version after installing this update.
ENHANCEMENTS
This update introduces changes including the following:
Android security: Includes the updates of Android security patches through 1 August 2017.
Stability improvements: Includes changes that fix bugs and improve the stability of your phone.
Calling updates: Enhancements to emergency calling functionality.
INSTRUCTIONS
For a successful installation, we recommend installing this update when the battery in your phone is at least 50% charged and you are connected to a Wi-Fi network.
If you have received a notification message for this update:
Select "Yes, I'm in".
After the software is downloaded, select "Install now".
After the software is installed, your phone will re-start automatically.
Your phone is now updated.
If you have not received a notification message for this update, follow the steps below to manually update your phone:
Select the Settings icon in the apps menu.
Select "About phone".
Select "System updates".
Select "Yes, I'm in". After the software is downloaded, select "Install now".
After the software is installed, your phone will re-start automatically.
Your phone is now updated.
Additional Information
If you have difficulty with this upgrade, visit us at www.motorola.com/mymotog.
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After boot system info for those interested...
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After boot system info for those interested...
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Installing now myself.
Does Lenovo ever publish what the changes actually are? Hopefully some security updates.
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Installing now myself.
Does Lenovo ever publish what the changes actually are? Hopefully some security updates.
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Moto says the same as most other manufacturers... see the post or link above.
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Moto says the same as most other manufacturers... see the post or link above.
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Thanks. I've come over from the N5. We discussed my ROM at one point. How are you liking the G5+?
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Android security: Includes the updates of Android security patches through 1 August 2017.
Stability improvements: Includes changes that fix bugs and improve the stability of your phone.
Calling updates: Enhancements to emergency calling functionality.
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Thanks. I've come over from the N5. We discussed my ROM at one point. How are you liking the G5+?
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Android security: Includes the updates of Android security patches through 1 August 2017.
Stability improvements: Includes changes that fix bugs and improve the stability of your phone.
Calling updates: Enhancements to emergency calling functionality.
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Ahhh... I knew the name sounded familiar and it just clicked.
I like it a lot actually, battery life is amazing and that seems to be my major thing lately, most other things seem of less importance now days, but to be honest it has been a solid device going on 6 or 7 weeks now. It just works.
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Ahhh... I knew the name sounded familiar and it just clicked.
I like it a lot actually, battery life is amazing and that seems to be my major thing lately, most other things seem of less importance now days, but to be honest it has been a solid device going on 6 or 7 weeks now. It just works.
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I agree. I have no complaints, and the battery life is crazy compared to the N5. Four days compared to nightly charges.
It's a solid device right now, and appears to more than equal the N5.
I'm on factory for the time being. I may try rolling my own, but this is a different ecosystem than the Nexus world.
Anyone in india got that update??
Another update? UGH! I guess it is going to be like this from now on.... Repetitive updates...
Still on -35 and getting -35-5 announcements. Still haven't even updated to -35-5, -35-67 showed up, now -35-83?
Is it still rootable? Are there FULL FW's so I can upgrade or do I need to upgrade to -35 and let it update to -83? Do I need to be on -35-67 before the -35-83 is capable of being installed?
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Another update? UGH! I guess it is going to be like this from now on.... Repetitive updates...
Still on -35 and getting -35-5 announcements. Still haven't even updated to -35-5, -35-67 showed up, now -35-83?
Is it still rootable? Are there FULL FW's so I can upgrade or do I need to upgrade to -35 and let it update to -83? Do I need to be on -35-67 before the -35-83 is capable of being installed?
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You are the only person I know of that is complaining about Moto deploying too many updates. lol
BTW, if anyone is curious this only contains security updates as of August 1, 2017... It still shows as Vulnerable to the Blueborne vulnerability.
I'm on NPN25-137-67 XT1686 Indian Varient
I didn't got any update?
Can someone grab the update zip? I'm on Verizon and it doesn't show for me....
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You are the only person I know of that is complaining about Moto deploying too many updates. lol
BTW, if anyone is curious this only contains security updates as of August 1, 2017... It still shows as Vulnerable to the Blueborne vulnerability.
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Don't get me wrong, updates are great, but not if you are rooted and you have to go through a process to root then reconfigure the phone since it's not an OTA, you have to reflash a STOCK rom to allow OTA's, then you have to root (if possible, not sure if -83 is yet...) and then setup the phone the way you want it..
mikeyinid said:
Can someone grab the update zip? I'm on Verizon and it doesn't show for me....
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Same here,a update zip would be much appreciated. Thanks
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You are the only person I know of that is complaining about Moto deploying too many updates. lol
BTW, if anyone is curious this only contains security updates as of August 1, 2017... It still shows as Vulnerable to the Blueborne vulnerability.
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Huh... Why not wait and add the patch for BB? Odd... So the safest thing to do is to not even be using BlueTooth at all until it's patched? It's been 3 weeks right? 9-12 or was it 9-11 (what a coincidence)
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Huh... Why not wait and add the patch for BB? Odd... So the safest thing to do is to not even be using BlueTooth at all until it's patched? It's been 3 weeks right? 9-12 or was it 9-11 (what a coincidence)
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Well... that's debatable... Although this vulnerability is real, the chances of being effected by it are so remote in most cases is so infinitesimally small that changing your usage habits probably isn't necessary.
Why the August one, probably because that is when they had is scheduled and it was nearly complete when the Sept update came out so they decided to just finish and release it anyway, why let the work go to waste. For Moto it is usually a couple months behind anyway.
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Well... that's debatable... Although this vulnerability is real, the chances of being effected by it are so remote in most cases is so infinitesimally small that changing your usage habits probably isn't necessary.
Why the August one, probably because that is when they had is scheduled and it was nearly complete when the Sept update came out so they decided to just finish and release it anyway, why let the work go to waste. For Moto it is usually a couple months behind anyway.
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My bad, I went out of sync with time for a min. It's AUGUST security the one on this -83 (not SEPTEMBER) so I am guessing there is another update coming!
Did you root your -67 (if you have -67?) My bootloader is already unlocked, do you know if Moto will eventually lock this (maybe Google forcing them to any time soon?)
Moto devs can unlock bootloaders and phone has ugly start image but other than that it all works as intended. (BTW, I am using SuperSU and BusyBox on my -35, not the Magisk root - I use Wifi Tether Router and doesn't work with Magisk)
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My bad, I went out of sync with time for a min. It's AUGUST security the one on this -83 (not SEPTEMBER) so I am guessing there is another update coming!
Did you root your -67 (if you have -67?) My bootloader is already unlocked, do you know if Moto will eventually lock this (maybe Google forcing them to any time soon?)
Moto devs can unlock bootloaders and phone has ugly start image but other than that it all works as intended. (BTW, I am using SuperSU and BusyBox on my -35, not the Magisk root - I use Wifi Tether Router and doesn't work with Magisk)
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Another update coming? I suppose, but since we just got this one I don't expect it for 3-4 months and that puts it in the timeframe of Oreo so this might be our last update to Nougat.
As far as the bootloader thing goes, I don't see Moto stopping this or actively blocking rooting, nor do I see Google doing this either.
I don't unlock or root anymore, just don't see the benefits.
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Can someone grab the update zip? I'm on Verizon and it doesn't show for me....
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+1. I'm on 43-5, a Verizon-exclusive update, and am not seeing an OTA. Chances are it's incompatible with my version and I'll have to reflash -35 and get the OTA. I'd suggest anyone else having this issue does as well. I'll report back as soon as I flash.
I just got notified that my pixel 6 pro will update to A13 in two days, and there seems to be nothing I can do about it.
Does anyone know how to block it and stop any future updates? I've already got 'automatic updates' turned off, but that isn't stopping it.
What do I need to freeze, or what command line do i need to run, to clean this up and stop updates, especially A13?
I assume if your phone rooted, automatically updating will fail
It doesn't, and I lose root, that's what I thought last security update— which is why i'm concerned
christiebunny said:
I just got notified that my pixel 6 pro will update to A13 in two days, and there seems to be nothing I can do about it.
Does anyone know how to block it and stop any future updates? I've already got 'automatic updates' turned off, but that isn't stopping it.
What do I need to freeze, or what command line do i need to run, to clean this up and stop updates, especially A13?
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Yes tap build 7 times for Developer Settings and disable automatic updatea
You could unlock the bootloader (which would require a device wipe) and then reinstall your current build of Android manually. That would be one of the only ways to officially disable automatic updates as well as update notifications.
I don't think that there's any way you'll be able to permanently avoid it. At least one other person who was rooted on Android 12 got the OTA to 13 even though they had automatic updates already disabled and it actually installed successfully - they lost root until they manually re-rooted it, but it was a surprise it updated successfully via OTA.
You may be able to delay it some buy factory resetting and some other things, but it's a big "maybe", and ultimately I don't think there's any way for you to avoid it.
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Yes tap build 7 times for Developer Settings and disable automatic updatea
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I've already got 'automatic updates' turned off, but that isn't stopping it.
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I don't think that there's any way you'll be able to permanently avoid it. At least one other person who was rooted on Android 12 got the OTA to 13 even though they had automatic updates already disabled and it actually installed successfully - they lost root until they manually re-rooted it, but it was a surprise it updated successfully via OTA.
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I "think" I've seen 3 instances of where someone was rooted but successfully completed the OTA, although 2 may have been from the same person. Maybe it was even the same person mentioning it 3 times, lol. Not really sure.
Makes me wonder if they removed the pre-OTA block verifications when going from A12 to A13 or just a fluke situation.
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I "think" I've seen 3 instances of where someone was rooted but successfully completed the OTA, although 2 may have been from the same person. Didn't go back to check the posts.
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I think I've seen more than one person report this too, but wasn't sure, and as I always say, I keep forgetting the old stuff. What was I talking about?
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Makes me wonder if they removed the pre-OTA block verifications when going from A12 to A13 or something else is going on.
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I suspect (but pretty obvious) that they have ways of force-pushing updates through despite the automatic update setting (or it's broken in typical Google fashion), but I think it's the former.
Then I believe they made a command decision that the vulnerability is too bad and that they felt they must force it on everyone. Again, given Google's reputation, this could've easily been an accident as well - "who pushed the red button!?!?!?"
And then the further command decision to push over top of modded, or at least simply rooted, devices as much as possible. I wonder what happens in the case someone has truly modified their software more aggressively at the root level. It wouldn't surprise me if it would've still overridden in those cases.
While, of course, those would be questionable actions for them to take (if these are actually true in the first place), I either partially or mostly agree with them, but just on principle, I can't wholeheartedly agree with them. Somewhere in the 40%-99% range.
If true, hopefully this is a very rare occurrence and not going to be how it is from now on. I will wait patiently to observe how things go.
What's the reason for avoiding the update? A13 is a pretty minor update from A12.1. In fact, I'd go so far as to say they should have called it A12.2.
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What's the reason for avoiding the update? A13 is a pretty minor update from A12.1. In fact, I'd go so far as to say they should have called it A12.2.
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this exactly I also want to know, is there any reason for not upgrading to A13 when coming from A12?
Only thing I could think of is some apps which might not yet work on A13...but thats about it?!
Annil said:
this exactly I also want to know, is there any reason for not upgrading to A13 when coming from A12?
Only thing I could think of is some apps which might not yet work on A13...but thats about it?!
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V4A, at least in my case. I'm not updating until its compatible, or I find a better alternative.
96carboard said:
What's the reason for avoiding the update? A13 is a pretty minor update from A12.1. In fact, I'd go so far as to say they should have called it A12.2.
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Android 13 cannot be modified is one reason...
Tulsadiver said:
Android 13 cannot be modified is one reason...
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I'm concerned about app compatibility, magisk, and how much control I'll lose.
As it is, even on 12, I can't change anything in /system, it's locked RO. I'm tired of not having control over a phone I paid for that's supposedly 'unlocked', but isn't
Tulsadiver said:
Android 13 cannot be modified is one reason...
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Could you explain your theory on this?
christiebunny said:
I'm concerned about app compatibility, magisk, and how much control I'll lose.
As it is, even on 12, I can't change anything in /system, it's locked RO. I'm tired of not having control over a phone I paid for that's supposedly 'unlocked', but isn't
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Compatibility seems remarkably intact, magisk works as intended, and there is no evidence of any change in what control you have.
96carboard said:
Could you explain your theory on this?
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Modified SystemUI bootloops.
Tulsadiver said:
Modified SystemUI bootloops.
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Ok? How are you modifying it?
96carboard said:
Ok? How are you modifying it?
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Same way I always have.
Tulsadiver said:
Same way I always have.
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That answer really doesn't help anyone.
96carboard said:
That answer really doesn't help anyone.
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Any like these:
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