S-OFF from S-ON Viper Rom - HTC 10 Questions & Answers

Hello everyone, i posted this in the Viper ROM thread but I think maybe I can get more help here
I need some guidance, I would like to know the correct process to be s-off with sunshine and maybe convert my device to the US version. I am in the latest version of Viper rom and my version of OS in download mode says 1.53.600.3 - CID 032 that corresponds to Telcel Mexico.
Thank you very much in advance.

snake_mgs said:
Hello everyone, i posted this in the Viper ROM thread but I think maybe I can get more help here
I need some guidance, I would like to know the correct process to be s-off with sunshine and maybe convert my device to the US version. I am in the latest version of Viper rom and my version of OS in download mode says 1.53.600.3 - CID 032 that corresponds to Telcel Mexico.
Thank you very much in advance.
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1) To s-off Download the Sunshine app from http://theroot.ninja and purchase a license.
2) For converting follow this guide
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-how-to-drand-convert-htc-10-to-t3374593
I would try to find an RUU for your current version before converting, in case you ever need return to stock.

Tarima said:
1) To s-off Download the Sunshine app from http://theroot.ninja and purchase a license.
2) For converting follow this guide
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-how-to-drand-convert-htc-10-to-t3374593
I would try to find an RUU for your current version before converting, in case you ever need return to stock.
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I need to uninstall magisk? I think its not compatible with sunshine, besides this step i need to do something else?

snake_mgs said:
I need to uninstall magisk? I think its not compatible with sunshine, besides this step i need to do something else?
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Not sure if Magisk interferes with sunshine. Sunshine should work even on non-rooted phones if you're on Marshmallow. You can ask for support on the Sunshine website.

just an fyi that if you are concerned in the future to pass safetynet, use a 6.xxx pre-nougat ruu, then do sunshine.
in sunshine, choose the method that allows you to keep the bootloader locked: sunshine soff on the htc 10 works differently and will give you the same access/rights as if the bootloader was unlocked. sunshine can only do this soff 'trick' on pre 7.0 fw.
if you do a 7.0 ruu 1st, then there are multiple other steps to passing safetynet.
ps: its been awhile since i researched the above, you may have to confirm the above info. sorry.

rnrstar said:
just an fyi that if you are concerned in the future to pass safetynet, use a 6.xxx pre-nougat ruu, then do sunshine.
in sunshine, choose the method that allows you to keep the bootloader locked: sunshine soff on the htc 10 works differently and will give you the same access/rights as if the bootloader was unlocked. sunshine can only do this soff 'trick' on pre 7.0 fw.
if you do a 7.0 ruu 1st, then there are multiple other steps to passing safetynet.
ps: its been awhile since i researched the above, you may have to confirm the above info. sorry.
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I think i read this too late. I ran sunshine in 7.0
U know these mĂșltiple steps yo bypass safety?
Thx for the help

snake_mgs said:
I think i read this too late. I ran sunshine in 7.0
U know these mĂșltiple steps yo bypass safety?
Thx for the help
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unfortunately, no I don't know the steps. but, as is mostly the case, search xda for the following : safetynet, 7. xxx fw, and your root method (supersu or magisk = magisk hide).
once I read about the sunshine 6.xxx bootloader option, I basically stopped researching. I believe viper rom can pass safetynet if you choose the magisksu version of the full rom version. good luck.
edit: check the sunshine threads here on xda; they may also help.

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HTC One M8 Unbrand - Help

Hi folks,
I have just bought a new UK HTC One M8 on Vodafone after having problems with my Canadian HTC One which didn't have the compatible LTE frequency for UK.
Anyhow.. I understand to debrand I need to S-OFF first, change CID to HTC__001 and then flash a stock firmware.
Just need some help with the following:
Do I need to do something to the MID? (if so, what should it be for stock UK unlocked/unbranded version?)
Can the debrand be done without rooting the device as Firewater requires the phone to be rooted (if no, is it a temp root? so I can use the bank apps etc)
Is there a method to S-OFF without root?
What's the best firmware to flash so I can get the future OTA?
Thanks in advance.
Regards
Just need some help with the following:
Do I need to do something to the MID? (if so, what should it be for stock UK unlocked/unbranded version?)
Can the debrand be done without rooting the device (if no, is it a temp root? so I can use the bank apps etc)
Does the firewater method permanently root the phone?
What's the best firmware to flash so I can get the future OTA?
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1) Shouldn't have to change MID. The MID should be 0P6B1000 which I think the Vodafone UK phone already is, seeing as it's European.
2) You'll probably need root to get Sunshine S-OFF to work***
3) Firewater method doesn't work anymore period. You'll have to use Sunshine it's $25 but it'll get the job done(Hopefully your device is supported then, as Sunshine doesn't work for some devices) and it's the only way to get S-OFF. I think there is a temp root available for it... check at thread. SunShine for modern Motorola & HTC devices
4) Of course the WWE International Firmware x.xx.401.x. As long as you run with the 401, any Asian WWE or 1540(Developer Edition, needs change of MID) you'll stay up to date directly through HTC.
BerndM14 said:
1) Shouldn't have to change MID. The MID should be 0P6B1000 which I think the Vodafone UK phone already is, seeing as it's European.
2) You'll probably need root to get Sunshine S-OFF to work***
3) Firewater method doesn't work anymore period. You'll have to use Sunshine it's $25 but it'll get the job done(Hopefully your device is supported then, as Sunshine doesn't work for some devices) and it's the only way to get S-OFF. I think there is a temp root available for it... check at thread. SunShine for modern Motorola & HTC devices
4) Of course the WWE International Firmware x.xx.401.x. As long as you run with the 401, any Asian WWE or 1540(Developer Edition, needs change of MID) you'll stay up to date directly through HTC.
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Cheers mate, this is very useful.
I will read up on Sunshine and go from there.. My banks app wont work on a rooted phone therefore I wasn't keen to root the phone.
I have downloaded 1.54.401.5-Firmware (Thanks to SoLdieR9312) is it the right one? thinking if I flash this rom and the OTA brings it up to date.
How about the messages on HBOOT, will it say tampered. I understand there are fixes here but want to make sure whether root is required again to check apply the fix.
scotcruz said:
Cheers mate, this is very useful.
I will read up on Sunshine and go from there.. My banks app wont work on a rooted phone therefore I wasn't keen to root the phone.
I have downloaded 1.54.401.5-Firmware (Thanks to SoLdieR9312) is it the right one? thinking if I flash this rom and the OTA brings it up to date.
How about the messages on HBOOT, will it say tampered. I understand there are fixes here but want to make sure whether root is required again to check apply the fix.
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Yeah you'll need root access to reset the flags, it gets done through the shell and will need root privileges.
[how to] lock/unlock your bootloader without htcdev(s-off required) To make the bootloader show "Locked" instead of "Relocked" if you lock it again. Needs root.
[how to] remove your "tampered" banner Will make Software status "Official" and not "Modified". Needs root.
Yeah you can use any 401 firmware you like. Going to an earlier version is a nice way to test if the OTAs are working like it should.
Banking app ... Probably flippin' Barclays again
Fantastic mate.. really appreciate your help..
will keep posted..
Sunshine payment is via PayPal so get the phone going first and then after you've debranded the phone you can set it up again unrooted

How to root my HTC One M8 (Android 6.0)?

I would like to root my M8, it has the latest OTA update from HTC which is Android 6.0. I have the developer edition, from what I've heard, the bootloader is already unlocked right?
I've seen some guides but most of them are outdated or they are meant to be used with Android 4.4.4.
I must say I'm not an expert when talking about phones, so is there a step by step guide to root an M8 with marshmallow? I would really appreciate any help.
The bootloader screen will indicate the bootloader status (LOCKED, UNLOCKED or RELOCKED) near the top of the screen.
In general, the process is:
1) Unlock the bootloader by HTCDev.com (if its not already unlocked).
2) Fastboot flash TWRP 3.0 custom recovery: https://twrp.me/devices/htconem8gsm.html
3) Backup your stock ROM in TWRP - lots of folks have been running into bootloop or no boot after trying to root (but probably usually when trying to use an obsolete version TWRP and/or SuperSU - but it never hurts to be safe and have a backup).
4) In TWRP, flash SuperSU v2.76 to root: https://download.chainfire.eu/969/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.76-20160630161323.zip
redpoint73 said:
The bootloader screen will indicate the bootloader status (LOCKED, UNLOCKED or RELOCKED) near the top of the screen.
In general, the process is:
1) Unlock the bootloader by HTCDev.com (if its not already unlocked).
2) Fastboot flash TWRP 3.0 custom recovery: https://twrp.me/devices/htconem8gsm.html
3) Backup your stock ROM in TWRP - lots of folks have been running into bootloop or no boot after trying to root (but probably usually when trying to use an obsolete version TWRP and/or SuperSU - but it never hurts to be safe and have a backup).
4) In TWRP, flash SuperSU v2.76 to root: https://download.chainfire.eu/969/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.76-20160630161323.zip
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Thanks for the answer. Just one more question. My bootloader is already unlocked, but it says "S-ON" under "UNLOCKED", will that be a problem?
Sporting123 said:
Thanks for the answer. Just one more question. My bootloader is already unlocked, but it says "S-ON" under "UNLOCKED", will that be a problem?
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Nope, that is just fine. S-on is perfectly okay for most mods, such as root, and flashing ROMs.
You only need s-off to do some very specific things, such as flashing modified hboots, manually flashing radio, changing CID&MID, downgrading by RUU, etc.
I have a simple doubt regarding flashing twrp. Does this means I can flash twrp through adb without getting root access to get root access.I usually root my devices using kingroot,works perfect for my old phone micromax.It also works for my htc one m8 when it was kitkat.But after I update to marshmallow Kingroot doesn't work for it,tried many times.If you could answer my question I would be very thankfull
hriatahriatpuia said:
I have a simple doubt regarding flashing twrp. Does this means I can flash twrp through adb without getting root access to get root access.
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You don't need root to install TWRP, if that is what you mean. You just need an unlocked bootloader.
Thanks a lot,have already unlocked the bootloader.
redpoint73 said:
You don't need root to install TWRP, if that is what you mean. You just need an unlocked bootloader.
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I've unlocked the bootloader but apparently I need to know which ver of twrp to use for my carrier ....no idea what to do there so I can't just flash the latest SuperSU from here? and how do I back up my stuff in case I mess up? Please help me i'm lost here
Hmz27 said:
I've unlocked the bootloader but apparently I need to know which ver of twrp to use for my carrier ....no idea what to do there so I can't just flash the latest SuperSU from here? and how do I back up my stuff in case I mess up? Please help me i'm lost here
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what carrier ? if you are on gsm just flash TWRP 3.0.2-0 from official website
https://twrp.me/devices/htconem8gsm.html
after you flash TWRP recovery you will find option to backup it's too easy to understand how it works ( just check the partitions you want to backup and confirm your choices by sweep to proceed the process )
after you make a backup flash the latest supersu.zip from here ( choose TWRP installable.zip )
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/stable-2016-09-01supersu-v2-78-release-t3452703
Hmz27 said:
I've unlocked the bootloader but apparently I need to know which ver of twrp to use for my carrier ...
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I think you're looking at some really outdated info or guide. TWRP hasn't been carrier specific for about 2 years; with Verizon and Sprint being the only ones you had to look out for. But TWRP was unified long ago (so Sprint/Verizon no longer requires a different TWRP version). You'll see from ahmed's link, that it specifies "All variants" of the M8. The exception would be if you have an M8s; and maybe another oddball variant or two (which are really different hardware). But as long as its a true "M8" the TWRP version linked by ahmed will work.
If you have any doubts or concerns about the M8 version, connect the phone to your computer, reboot to fastboot mode and do command fastboot getvar all and post the results so we can take a look (delete IMEI and serial number before posting).
Hmz27 said:
no idea what to do there so I can't just flash the latest SuperSU from here?
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No, you can't flash SuperSU without first flashing TWRP. Why would threads/guides tell you to do something that isn't necessary, if you can just skip it?
Simply put, you can only flash official "signed" files from the stock recovery. You need a custom recovery like TWRP to flash SuperSU.
Hmz27 said:
and how do I back up my stuff in case I mess up?
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Once you install TWRP, you can use it to create a backup of your stock unrooted ROM and user data. And its highly recommended to do so, before you flash SuperSU. Not only will this give you an easy way to revert/recover if something goes wrong with the root attempt; but you will also have a backup of your stock, unrooted ROM if you ever want it.
There are other ways to backup your data, but that depends on what "stuff" you are talking about (as that vague description doesn't tell us what you actually want to backup). For instance, for files, photos, etc. you can just copy and paste them to your computer as a backup.
Hello , I'm new to the whole thing guy and I want to unlock my bootloader in order to install custom rom , I looked in the fourm and I'v found an old method with all in one tool kit but I don't think it will work on my android version 6.0 would someone kindly guide me and tell me what do I need to do ? thanks .
Monzer_ said:
Hello , I'm new to the whole thing guy and I want to unlock my bootloader in order to install custom rom , I looked in the fourm and I'v found an old method with all in one tool kit but I don't think it will work on my android version 6.0 would someone kindly guide me and tell me what do I need to do ? thanks .
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If the method is firewater, it no longer works.
fireguy85 said:
If the method is firewater, it no longer works.
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I'm not sure what are you talking about since I'm new to the whole thing I believe that firewater has something to do with S-off which is something I couldn't do because all the guides says download firewater and the links takes me to sunshine which i believe cost me money to do ? sorry correct me if I'm wrong but I'm just a newbie beside I don't need s-off right ? what does that have to do with my problem ?
Monzer_ said:
I'm not sure what are you talking about since I'm new to the whole thing I believe that firewater has something to do with S-off which is something I couldn't do because all the guides says download firewater and the links takes me to sunshine which i believe cost me money to do ? sorry correct me if I'm wrong but I'm just a newbie beside I don't need s-off right ? what does that have to do with my problem ?
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Firewater was an all-in-one kit used to unlock bootloader and achieve s-off. The guys that created this went on to create Sunshine, leaving firewater project behind, so any guides from 2014 are likely obsolete. Unlocking the bootloader is as simple as going to htcdev.com, making an account and following the instructions there-it's super easy. S-off isn't necessary for most.
fireguy85 said:
If the method is firewater, it no longer works.
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fireguy85 said:
Firewater was an all-in-one kit used to unlock bootloader and achieve s-off. The guys that created this went on to create Sunshine, leaving firewater project behind, so any guides from 2014 are likely obsolete. Unlocking the bootloader is as simple as going to htcdev.com, making an account and following the instructions there-it's super easy. S-off isn't necessary for most.
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yes that what I have done exactly I'v unlocked the bootloader this way then used the all in one kit to root but then couldn't s-off as the guide I was following said download firewater and the links take me to sunshine . I don't know much further have not tried sunshine yet and now my rom seems ok after I re-flashed it awesome rom btw still little curious about s-rom but this one will do just fine I'v been using stock for ages .
Monzer_ said:
yes that what I have done exactly I'v unlocked the bootloader this way then used the all in one kit to root but then couldn't s-off as the guide I was following said download firewater and the links take me to sunshine . I don't know much further have not tried sunshine yet and now my rom seems ok after I re-flashed it awesome rom btw still little curious about s-rom but this one will do just fine I'v been using stock for ages .
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Firewater and the AIO (all-in-one) toolkit are 2 different things. Firewater is an (obsolete) s-off method. May have also contained a temp root, and some other things (can't remember exactly, it's been 2 years - and doesn't matter anyway - see more below). But firewater is not typically referred to as a "toolkit" or "all-in-one" (never seen it referred to that way, actually).
All-in-one toolkit (there are a couple) is a PC for unlocking the bootloader, root, and several other things (may have had a link for firewater, don't remember - again it's irrelevant for reasons below).
The toolkits are not recommended. They haven't been updated in a long time, and therefore use very obsolete files for TWRP and SuperSU (when applicable). You will have issues flashing many ROMs with old TWRP (and I'm surprised you haven't yet). Plus, you will probably find in bootloader and fastboot getvar, that the OS number is now blank (known bug in old versions of TWRP). I would suggest flashing the current version TWRP 3.1.1 using fastboot, to prevent issues moving forward. Current TWRP is fully compatible with current ROMs - but will not fix the bug of OS number being blank (need to flash firmware or RUU to fix that - but it's just a minor thing).
Firewater doesn't work, no matter what you do. It required an online server component, which the devs took offline over 2 years ago. Sunshine ($25 US) is the only current s-off method. But be aware, that most folks don't need s-off. S-off isn't needed to root, flash custom ROMs, and most other mods. s-off is only needed for very specific things, such as manually flashing radios, changing CID/MID, and some other things.
redpoint73 thank you so much for such a help truly gentleman much appreciate it .
It appears you can no longer use the usual method to unlock the bootloader. I just got this phone the other day in fantastic condition as a gift.
HTCDev told me there was an error or try again later. I'll upload screenshots later.
Not true... I used www.htcdev.com to unlock the bootloader of my HTC One M8 today.
I have this phone, with Android 6.0 and bootloader locked. However it has become practically unusable as it regularly powers off by itself, most likely due to lack of storage (there's only 0.6 GB left...). I've already uninstalled all of my few (useful) apps, I have no media on it whatsoever, but it is just filled up with bloatware that is pre-installed and gets re-installed automatically and that I thus cannot get rid of. I don't want to buy a new phone (it's in good condition) but from reading on the internet I understand that the only option is to unlock and root it, and put an oem on it exempt of all of these useless apps.
So my questions are, is this really the only option and if so is it still possible on this old machine to unlock the bootloader, and to get the right - clean - software for it somewhere?
I registered at HtC dev. There's a page that walks you through the unlocking process. So I should be able to do that part, if what FlexMcMurphy said in July last year still is true... For the rest, I'm quite new to this process but there are pages here on XDA that describe rooting and flashing. I'm ready to give it a try, but could use help if stuck.
Any reply/help would be wonderful !
Thank you in advance.
Judith

Help! Re-lock, s-on, TWRP question

Hi!
I've bought used HTC10 on ebay. Seller says that it was S-OFFed, unlocked via Sunshine and has TWRP 3.0.2-6 installed.
The phone is not rooted.
At the moment:
OTA is returning "Can't update software" message.
Android PAY says "unable to verify that your device or the software is compatible"
My understanding is that in order to fix these, I would need to replace TWRP with stock recovery, relock and s-on. Am I right? Could you please point me to the right guides?
Thanks in advance!
hniu said:
Hi!
I've bought used HTC10 on ebay. Seller says that it was S-OFFed, unlocked via Sunshine and has TWRP 3.0.2-6 installed.
The phone is not rooted.
At the moment:
OTA is returning "Can't update software" message.
Android PAY says "unable to verify that your device or the software is compatible"
My understanding is that in order to fix these, I would need to replace TWRP with stock recovery, relock and s-on. Am I right? Could you please point me to the right guides?
Thanks in advance!
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I think the best you can do is check the cid, then flash the ruu, after that use sunshine to lock it/s-on
may be you can also change the cid and flash whatever firmware you want (except jap ver, and cross flash for us/international)
there are a lot of guides, but most of them give you the same result
DummyPLUG said:
I think the best you can do is check the cid, then flash the ruu, after that use sunshine to lock it/s-on
may be you can also change the cid and flash whatever firmware you want (except jap ver, and cross flash for us/international)
there are a lot of guides, but most of them give you the same result
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Thanks!
The CID is "HTC__01 WWE".
Do I need to flash RUU or TWRP Backup / Stock recovery or all of them? The phone is running stock ROM and is unrooted.
Also do I need to buy Sunshine for unlock/s-off or is there a cheaper way?
I will suggest do a TWRP backup first, then flash RUU, in case of anything goes wrong
may be you will want to change cid and flash your regional firmware because volte and language setting are carries/region specific
sunshine can be reuse on the same phone, just go to download the latest version then you are good to go.
http://theroot.ninja/download.html
hniu said:
Hi!
I've bought used HTC10 on ebay. Seller says that it was S-OFFed, unlocked via Sunshine and has TWRP 3.0.2-6 installed.
The phone is not rooted.
At the moment:
OTA is returning "Can't update software" message.
Android PAY says "unable to verify that your device or the software is compatible"
My understanding is that in order to fix these, I would need to replace TWRP with stock recovery, relock and s-on. Am I right? Could you please point me to the right guides?
Thanks in advance!
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If TWRP is installed, then you can root it w/SuperSU.
If it is S-off, you can flash the firmware updates easily yourself; there are guides and an automated tool.
Android Pay doesn't like unlocked bootloaders and root; there may be workarounds for this but be prepared for endless cat-and-mouse if you really want that app (personally, I'll just keep my phone the way I want it and since they don't trust their app to run on a rooted phone, then I don't trust it either.)
Having said all that, any device I get, I completely wipe/reinstall (run RUU in this case) since it really is in an unknown state...especially an S-off phone from eBay.
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If TWRP is installed, then you can root it w/SuperSU.
If it is S-off, you can flash the firmware updates easily yourself; there are guides and an automated tool.
Android Pay doesn't like unlocked bootloaders and root; there may be workarounds for this but be prepared for endless cat-and-mouse if you really want that app (personally, I'll just keep my phone the way I want it and since they don't trust their app to run on a rooted phone, then I don't trust it either.)
Having said all that, any device I get, I completely wipe/reinstall (run RUU in this case) since it really is in an unknown state...especially an S-off phone from eBay.
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Thank you!
I've flashed RUU zip using the guide from theunlockr.com. Everything worked as it should. Bootloader is still unlocked (with S-off), but that's shouldn't be a problem, as OTA and android pay are now working fine. I might use it in the future to install CM14 when it comes out.

A few questions about the bootloader and S-off-ing

Hi!
I've spent a few hours researching these topics but I still feel a bit unstable. If I get it right, you can use the HTCdev method to unlock your bootloader safely, but doing so will make you unable to relock it flawlessly. Using the Sunshine method gives you an opportunity to S-off while keeping the bootloader locked.
1.) Using the Sunshine S-off LOCKED method, can you "re-S-on" to make your device look factory new? (In other words: can you revert the changes completely?)
2.) I've read that S-off-ing is only required to install firmwares and for other "high-level" purposes. Could you please tell me a few situations / examples where S-off-ing would come handy (and an unlocked bootloader wouldn't be enough)?
3.) How can you install software updates while being in "S-off LOCKED" or just simply bootloader unlocked mode?
4.) Do you think Nougat will make any differences regarding the Sunshine method?
I'm planning to do one of the 2 methods after the official EU release of Android N.
Thank you in advance!
1-Yes. But s-on is not recommended unless you really really need it.
2-For example,I'm s-off unlocked.Changed my Europe device's Cid and Mid to US Unlocked version,flashed latest Nougat RUU.exe.Wanted to go back to Viper 3.5 MM,Flashed US unlocked MM RUU.exe,Changed mid cid,Flashed a stock MM European MM 1.90 rom,flashed Viper,upgraded firmware to 1.95 through fastboot.And that's it.I was back in the beginning.2 days later,saw the root came out,changed mid-cid,flashed RUU.exe just like that,and stock N again.Then applied root,here I am.If I wasn't s-off,in some place on this process,I believe I would be bricked,hard or soft,but bricked.
3-You can get the updates normally when s-off locked/unlocked through the OTA.
4-You should s-off while you're still on MM,because afaik sunshine isn't compatible with N yet.
ordeniz said:
1-Yes. But s-on is not recommended unless you really really need it.
2-For example,I'm s-off unlocked.Changed my Europe device's Cid and Mid to US Unlocked version,flashed latest Nougat RUU.exe.Wanted to go back to Viper 3.5 MM,Flashed US unlocked MM RUU.exe,Changed mid cid,Flashed a stock MM European MM 1.90 rom,flashed Viper,upgraded firmware to 1.95 through fastboot.And that's it.I was back in the beginning.2 days later,saw the root came out,changed mid-cid,flashed RUU.exe just like that,and stock N again.Then applied root,here I am.If I wasn't s-off,in some place on this process,I believe I would be bricked,hard or soft,but biricked.
3-You can get the updates normally when s-off locked/onlocked through the OTA.
4-You should s-off while you're still on MM,because afaik sunshine isn't compatible with N yet.
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Thanks for the fast anwser!
So the software updates only cause trouble when the bootloader is unlocked, regardless of being in s-off or s-on mode?
If I S-off now, will I be able to upgrade to N and keep the "S-off LOCKED" state?
bence.szij said:
Thanks for the fast anwser!
So the software updates only cause trouble when the bootloader is unlocked, regardless of being in s-off or s-on mode?
If I S-off now, will I be able to upgrade to N and keep the "S-off LOCKED" state?
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No,not updates.Downgrades may cause serious problems if you are not s-off.
Yes,you keep the s-off locked.
ordeniz said:
No,not updates.Downgrades may cause serious problems if you are not s-off.
Yes,you keep the s-off locked.
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Thank you very much!
ordeniz said:
1-Yes. But s-on is not recommended unless you really really need it.
2-For example,I'm s-off unlocked.Changed my Europe device's Cid and Mid to US Unlocked version,flashed latest Nougat RUU.exe.Wanted to go back to Viper 3.5 MM,Flashed US unlocked MM RUU.exe,Changed mid cid,Flashed a stock MM European MM 1.90 rom,flashed Viper,upgraded firmware to 1.95 through fastboot.And that's it.I was back in the beginning.2 days later,saw the root came out,changed mid-cid,flashed RUU.exe just like that,and stock N again.Then applied root,here I am.If I wasn't s-off,in some place on this process,I believe I would be bricked,hard or soft,but bricked.
3-You can get the updates normally when s-off locked/unlocked through the OTA.
4-You should s-off while you're still on MM,because afaik sunshine isn't compatible with N yet.
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I've been curious about this, does the MID matter? Europe is 2PS62000 and US is 2PS65000. I didnt know if there were hardware differences beyond radio ones, and whether or not that would create problems for European models outside of US?
Well,I read on the forum (don't remember which thread) someone having a problem because he forgot to type 1 zero in the mid.I mean it would be same if you change cid but not mid.And since it is really easy to change ,I changed them both.

sunshine

Hello!After my M7 i have now this device.I bought from operator,and im dissapointed from a lot of bloatware.I think about custom rom.Its many things changed ,so i have questions.If im doing Sunshine s-off,than i dont have to opend bootloader?Root or systemless root or Magisk?I just want change my cid to supercid and flash some custom rom on my device.I need some customization,ad blocker and kernel tweaks.thx
krepsz said:
Hello!After my M7 i have now this device.I bought from operator,and im dissapointed from a lot of bloatware.I think about custom rom.Its many things changed ,so i have questions.If im doing Sunshine s-off,than i dont have to opend bootloader?Root or systemless root or Magisk?I just want change my cid to supercid and flash some custom rom on my device.I need some customization,ad blocker and kernel tweaks.thx
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You still got to unlock the bootloader as well as root to be able to use SunShine depending on FW and ROM version. After this you could de-brand the device e.g. by following my guide linked in my signature below.
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5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
You still got to unlock the bootloader as well as root to be able to use SunShine depending on FW and ROM version. After this you could de-brand the device e.g. by following my guide linked in my signature below.
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I used Sunshine without unlocking my bootloader. Latest Sunshine has temp root, so it will unlock your bootloader and s-off your phone in one take. Also, you can leave bootloader locked and s-off only.
donkeykong1 said:
I used Sunshine without unlocking my bootloader. Latest Sunshine has temp root, so it will unlock your bootloader and s-off your phone in one take. Also, you can leave bootloader locked and s-off only.
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Sunshine works on nougat or the latest Verizon firmware update from last week?
Tarima said:
Sunshine works on nougat or the latest Verizon firmware update from last week?
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That I don't know. It's easy to check tho - go to Sunshine web page, download the latest Sunshine app, and run it. It will check your phone compatibility, and if it's compatible, it will ask you for payment. Easy as that
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That I don't know. It's easy to check tho - go to Sunshine web page, download the latest Sunshine app, and run it. It will check your phone compatibility, and if it's compatible, it will ask you for payment. Easy as that
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Ya I see they added Nougat support, which is great. The guys had said that at some point they wouldn't be able to ensure that temproot would work on verizon future updates. Still good so far.
Tarima said:
Ya I see they added Nougat support, which is great. The guys had said that at some point they wouldn't be able to ensure that temproot would work on verizon future updates. Still good so far.
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I'm still on MM, so I don't really know much about Nougat, but, as I said before - download Sunshine app and run it. It will do all verifying steps for you, and if your phone is compatible, you're good to go. If not, no harm, no foul. Uninstall the app, and that's it. No payment is required untill your phone is verified as compatible
I concur. I installed Sunshine last week on my stock MM HTC 10, no need to unlock or to root before that. It worked just fine, now I'm S-off and still locked.
+1 on what was said about sunshine
If your on nougat make sure you use the latest TWRP here
As for root you can use either Magisk or just flash the latest SuperSU here
pomponazzo said:
I concur. I installed Sunshine last week on my stock MM HTC 10, no need to unlock or to root before that. It worked just fine, now I'm S-off and still locked.
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i can't unlock my bootloader after s-off. help me pleace..
Sorry, no idea about that. I didn't even try to unlock it. As the option not to unlock was offered in Sunshine, I didn't look further...
Let's hope some connoisseur will be able to help you.
artadify said:
i can't unlock my bootloader after s-off. help me pleace..
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- dev settings enabled?
- oem unlock in dev settings enabled?
artadify said:
i can't unlock my bootloader after s-off. help me pleace..
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Why on earth would you want to do that ? If you are S-OFF you don't need to unlock the bootloader for anything at all !
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Why on earth would you want to do that ? If you are S-OFF you don't need to unlock the bootloader for anything at all !
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thanks
I have unlocked bootloader and custom kernel.After i s-off my device can i go back to stock?
krepsz said:
I have unlocked bootloader and custom kernel.After i s-off my device can i go back to stock?
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Yes. Why you would do that seems strange though. You just need to get your hooks on the ruu.exe for your phone and run it. Your phone will be returned to the sorry, pathetically uncustomizable, stock rom.
For my device, Viper10 3.5.0 MM rom is as good as it gets. Nothing better. Not impressed with Nougat nor the CM based roms that are perpetually in an "Unofficial" state.
comstockload said:
Yes. Why you would do that seems strange though. You just need to get your hooks on the ruu.exe for your phone and run it. Your phone will be returned to the sorry, pathetically uncustomizable, stock rom.
For my device, Viper10 3.5.0 MM rom is as good as it gets. Nothing better. Not impressed with Nougat nor the CM based roms that are perpetually in an "Unofficial" state.
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ok.But now after s-off im thinking about supercid.If i change to supercid can i flash every kind of rom on my device?
krepsz said:
ok.But now after s-off im thinking about supercid.If i change to supercid can i flash every kind of rom on my device?
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You can do that with any CID. A custom rom has nothing to do with your CID.
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ok.But now after s-off im thinking about supercid.If i change to supercid can i flash every kind of rom on my device?
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SuperCID allows you to flash every kind of RUU made for the HTC 10, although there may still be reasons you wouldn't want to flash some of them versus some others. You might have to change your MID too.
Magisk not compatible with sunshine?
Sunshine says it's not compatible with magisk installed do I uninstall it.

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