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Asus Zenpad 3S 10 (64GB) or the Huawei Mediapad M2 (64GB) 10?

Hello,
I'd like to buy a new tablet but I'm a bit confused between these 2 devices.
The Asus has 4GB RAM on board and Android Marshmallow which is great while the Huawei has to do it with Lollipop, that's really a shame!
On the other hand the Huawei has an aspect ratio of 16:9 or 16:10 which is nice in landscape modus when you do screen sharing with Miracast to your tv.
What do you guys think about these devices? Which one is better? (Also if we consider in long term). I'm curious about your comments.
Do you guys think the Mediapad will ever get the Android Nougat update? Nor has it even Marshmallow...

I'm in the same situation can't decide between m2 8 inch with 16:9 aspect ratio (the same ratio as my current sam note 8) or to go for 4:3 other tab options
In ur case i would go for the asus one , huawei is known for very slow updates , i don't expect that the m2 will get the nougat update....

According to the specs, the gpu in the asus is about half that of the Huawei (70 GFlops to 144)

memo357 said:
Hello,
I'd like to buy a new tablet but I'm a bit confused between these 2 devices.
The Asus has 4GB RAM on board and Android Marshmallow which is great while the Huawei has to do it with Lollipop, that's really a shame!
On the other hand the Huawei has an aspect ratio of 16:9 or 16:10 which is nice in landscape modus when you do screen sharing with Miracast to your tv.
What do you guys think about these devices? Which one is better? (Also if we consider in long term). I'm curious about your comments.
Do you guys think the Mediapad will ever get the Android Nougat update? Nor has it even Marshmallow...
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Which did you end up getting, and are you happy with it? Trying to decide myself now.

richie101883 said:
Which did you end up getting, and are you happy with it? Trying to decide myself now.
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Not OP but just FYI, the M2 got a Marshmallow (Android 6) upgrade a while back.
My wife has the Zenpad 3 8 (not 10) and its pretty sharp, just as nice as my M2 8. Build quality is about equal to me. But nothing that makes me want to switch. I think it all comes down to personal taste.
Good luck!

Low benchmarks compared to Mate 9

I was looking through the reviews and benchmarks on phonearena here and noticed the Honor 8 Pro scores quite a bit less than the Mate 9, also running the Kirin 960. Would that simply be down to the QHD screen on the 8 Pro?
I'm wondering how that would affect things like emulation with Dolphin, where single core performance is quite important. Would it not matter so much as you choose the resolution to render the game at anyway? So it wouldn't be QHD in dolphin or is it a driver setting which would need to be changed like on the Galaxy S8?

Andy4Shurr said:
I was looking through the reviews and benchmarks on phonearena here and noticed the Honor 8 Pro scores quite a bit less than the Mate 9, also running the Kirin 960. Would that simply be down to the QHD screen on the 8 Pro?
I'm wondering how that would affect things like emulation with Dolphin, where single core performance is quite important. Would it not matter so much as you choose the resolution to render the game at anyway? So it wouldn't be QHD in dolphin or is it a driver setting which would need to be changed like on the Galaxy S8?
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Yes, I'd put it down to QHD vs FHD.
As an aside my Honor 8 Pro has UFS 2.1 memory, while my Mate 9 has eMMC - so I'm even happier to be using the Honor as my daily driver. The Mate 9 is great in many ways, but the Honor screen is so much nicer!

jonmorris said:
Yes, I'd put it down to QHD vs FHD.
As an aside my Honor 8 Pro has UFS 2.1 memory, while my Mate 9 has eMMC - so I'm even happier to be using the Honor as my daily driver. The Mate 9 is great in many ways, but the Honor screen is so much nicer!
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I'm still weighing both of these up. I can't seem to find any Honor 8 Pros in stock, vmall has been out of stock since launch but Mate 9 is readily available.
Have you tried Dolphin Emulator on your 8 Pro? I'm not sure if the QHD screen will have any detriment! Is there an option to turn QHD to FHD in the settings like Samsung have?

The phone is not available on vMall or Amazon now, which is frustrating as people I've recommended the phone to can't buy - and sooner or later they'll buy something else instead.
I've not tried Dolphin Emulator but there is an option to drop the resolution for power saving, but unlike on the P9 where it toggled between 1080p and 720p, I've not managed to get it to actually do anything. The same for the Mate 9, P10 etc. Perhaps it only does it when running certain apps?

jonmorris said:
The phone is not available on vMall or Amazon now, which is frustrating as people I've recommended the phone to can't buy - and sooner or later they'll buy something else instead.
I've not tried Dolphin Emulator but there is an option to drop the resolution for power saving, but unlike on the P9 where it toggled between 1080p and 720p, I've not managed to get it to actually do anything. The same for the Mate 9, P10 etc. Perhaps it only does it when running certain apps?
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Thanks for your replies Jon, yeah it's a shame that it's not available now. I may end up just getting a Mate 9 because of it. I'm not overly keen on those black borders around the screen but I want a big screen/powerful CPU and I hate the S8+ aspect ratio (I'd prefer the Snapdragon anyway and that isn't available in Europe).
Maybe the QHD/FD toggle thing will happen in an update somewhere down the line. I'd only ever want QHD on if using VR, so a switch would have been handy. Hopefully you don't have to tie that in with turning the performance of the CPU down as well.

Hello, it is exclusively available from O2 Telefonica Store. And mine has emmc not ufs 2.1. Seems like a lucky box again...
https://www.o2online.de/e-shop/handys-ohne-tarif/honor/honor-8-pro-details

My black 8 pro has also the emmc

Any other testimonies on the storage type of your Honor 8 Pro?
I think Vmall specification pages indicate storage type as UFS, Anandtech also confirmed UFS 2.1 in their Preview.
Is it again a lottery between UFS/eMMC like with the P10 series?

kodinos said:
Any other testimonies on the storage type of your Honor 8 Pro?
I think Vmall specification pages indicate storage type as UFS, Anandtech also confirmed UFS 2.1 in their Preview.
Is it again a lottery between UFS/eMMC like with the P10 series?
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Yes, there are Honor 8 Pro with eMMC.

kodinos said:
Any other testimonies on the storage type of your Honor 8 Pro?
I think Vmall specification pages indicate storage type as UFS, Anandtech also confirmed UFS 2.1 in their Preview.
Is it again a lottery between UFS/eMMC like with the P10 series?
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I have bought honor 8 pro on a reseller website in France and it has eMMC memory too, i have called today vmall Europe (Huawei-Honor) customer and technical services, i reported the problem about memory type, they said they will make an investigation about it and will contact me...It is really a winning lottery and for some, a whining lottery

I don't think they will do something... And I don't find any information about the memory type on the European and Chinese vmall website.

Andy4Shurr said:
I'm still weighing both of these up. I can't seem to find any Honor 8 Pros in stock, vmall has been out of stock since launch but Mate 9 is readily available.
Have you tried Dolphin Emulator on your 8 Pro? I'm not sure if the QHD screen will have any detriment! Is there an option to turn QHD to FHD in the settings like Samsung have?
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There should be setting called SCREEN SAVER which is basically switching to the screen . I have used Honor 6 in passed so that maybe an option
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jonmorris said:
Yes, I'd put it down to QHD vs FHD.
As an aside my Honor 8 Pro has UFS 2.1 memory, while my Mate 9 has eMMC - so I'm even happier to be using the Honor as my daily driver. The Mate 9 is great in many ways, but the Honor screen is so much nicer!
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Can we really feel the difference and the richness of screen in Honor 8 pro ? Am using Oneplus 3 1080p AMOLED display and personally am Not happy with OnePlus displays

ben cherian said:
There should be setting called SCREEN SAVER which is basically switching to the screen . I have used Honor 6 in passed so that maybe an option
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I ended up getting a mate 9 instead. I prefer a bigger screen and you could only get the blue Honor 8 Pro from vmall, I wanted a black phone.

Andy4Shurr said:
I ended up getting a mate 9 instead. I prefer a bigger screen and you could only get the blue Honor 8 Pro from vmall, I wanted a black phone.
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Good choice man. About the storage lottery, I really hate Huawei for that.

Well the RAM is waiting for commands from other components, and they will throttle before the "slow" 6Gb of emmc will, wouldn't worry about it that much.

Rommco05 said:
This is true but lottery with memorys is on Samsung S8 too (I read somewhere) and I read too lottery is only in Chines market, but I'm 100% sure
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so here for example i get a little bit over 150.000 points in antutu, even if i don't like Benchmarks ^^
Regards

OldDroid said:
so here for example i get a little bit over 150.000 points in antutu, even if i don't like Benchmarks ^^
Regards
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I hope I also receive the UFS one when I get one.

Andy4Shurr said:
I was looking through the reviews and benchmarks on phonearena here and noticed the Honor 8 Pro scores quite a bit less than the Mate 9, also running the Kirin 960. Would that simply be down to the QHD screen on the 8 Pro?
I'm wondering how that would affect things like emulation with Dolphin, where single core performance is quite important. Would it not matter so much as you choose the resolution to render the game at anyway? So it wouldn't be QHD in dolphin or is it a driver setting which would need to be changed like on the Galaxy S8?
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dont take benchmarks for everything bro, benchmark is all about numbers, and numbers arent everything

Yeah. Real life performance is better than any benchmarks.

I didn't quite understand your last sentence.

OnePlus 5T Stock Wallpapers Leaked (4K + 1080P Full HD)

I guess OnePlus 5t wallpapers got leaked.There are many sites who have posted the wallpapers links.I think these are real ones.Can anyone confirm?
OnePlus 5T Stock Wallpapers In 4K (rootmygalaxy) / DroidViews

Not sure but these may be real as most of the time wallpapers got leaked in few hours of the launch.9to5google has also posted that

Rashmi9658 said:
Not sure but these may be real as most of the time wallpapers got leaked in few hours of the launch.9to5google has also posted that
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Real Ones.But how they got the 4k ones as the OnePlus 5t has a 1080P display

Not really leaked since the artist posted them on his website in the 4K and 1080p sizes.
http://hampusolsson.com/blog/2017/11/16/oneplus-5t-wallpapers

Mate 10 pro vs lg g7 thinq

hi guys!i have mate 10 pro and love it so far!!Does it worth to switch to lg g7?How is the camera?Its equally good?

It's recommended to switch from any phone to LG G7 or any LG flagship!

johnnyman25 said:
hi guys!i have mate 10 pro and love it so far!!Does it worth to switch to lg g7?How is the camera?Its equally good?
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Mate..Don't even think of switching to LG from mate 10 pro..Mate 10 pro is superb both in terms of camera and battery...
Also LG's UI is not even a match for Huawei's feature rich EMUI. If you want timely updates for your phone ..don't ever switch to a LG phone. Huawei is far better in terms of updates. I'm still getting monthly security updates on my Honor 8.

Huawei lags behind on Bluetooth though, if listening to music with high SQ is important LG is a clear upgrade. Otherwise somewhat similar devices.

johnnyman25 said:
hi guys!i have mate 10 pro and love it so far!!Does it worth to switch to lg g7?How is the camera?Its equally good?
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Yeah, it's totally worth switching form Huawei. LG is far more solid brand. Camera can shoot video in actual formats, even in UHD HEVC with 3rd party apps.

But how is the battery and camera compared to mate?
Mate the 10 pro be with you

johnnyman25 said:
But how is the battery and camera compared to mate?
Mate the 10 pro be with you
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IMO ..Mate 10 pro is superior in terms of camera and battery...Mate 10 pro rules for battery endurance among the flagships...Camera only differentiation is the wide angle on g7. But Lecia branded camera is great as well..

Maverick Honor said:
IMO ..Mate 10 pro is superior in terms of camera and battery...Mate 10 pro rules for battery endurance among the flagships...Camera only differentiation is the wide angle on g7. But Lecia branded camera is great as well..
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Based on what personal experience? I get 4-5+ sot with the lgg7. The battery on the g7 is pretty good imo. Also, isn't the mate 10 pro lacking an SD card slot? That alone is s deal breaker. It also lacks a 3.5 Jack.

Yes, both phones ecxel in different areas. Huawei wins on battery and camera. LG wins on sound quality, better Bluetooth, more powerful cpu/GPU, better for gaming, more nice form factor and lighter. My taste leans towards best SQ available, so LG wins for me. And yes, sdcard is great to have too.

Thank you all. Also how is screen compared to amoled? Are blacks good enough?
Also what about updates?
Which security patch it has now?
Android pie in horizon?
Mate the 10 pro be with you

johnnyman25 said:
Thank you all. Also how is screen compared to amoled? Are blacks good enough?
Also what about updates?
Which security patch it has now?
Android pie in horizon?
Mate the 10 pro be with you
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Black is good enough but there is no way you can expect it to be as good as oled screen. Its somehow the best you can expect from an lcd. The brightness is also brightest i've ever seen on any phone.
Using LG, dont expect any fast update. Developments are bloody slow compared to other flagships.

johnnyman25 said:
Thank you all. Also how is screen compared to amoled? Are blacks good enough?
Also what about updates?
Which security patch it has now?
Android pie in horizon?
Mate the 10 pro be with you
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I'm actually kind of regreting getting the LG because of the blacks. I only notices it after my wife got the p20 pro. Because of the RGBW pixels the blacks are really washed out. I don't recommend it if you watch alot of video on the phone. Can't wait for next month's phone to arrive so I can switch to an oled phone. Probably gonna pick the mate 20 pro.
I only recomment this phone if you like one hand use.
That reminds, because the phone is so slim, it's 19.5x9 (or whatever), when you watch a video in full screen and you pinch out to fill the screen the video cuts alot more than an 18x9 phone (like a p20 pro or, I'm guessing, mate 10 pro as well).
Save your money and maybe get one of the phones that will come out next month. The oneplus 6t will the around the price of the G7 and I'm betting it will blow it out of the water.

xtrocata said:
I'm actually kind of regreting getting the LG because of the blacks. I only notices it after my wife got the p20 pro. Because of the RGBW pixels the blacks are really washed out. I don't recommend it if you watch alot of video on the phone. Can't wait for next month's phone to arrive so I can switch to an oled phone. Probably gonna pick the mate 20 pro.
I only recomment this phone if you like one hand use.
That reminds, because the phone is so slim, it's 19.5x9 (or whatever), when you watch a video in full screen and you pinch out to fill the screen the video cuts alot more than an 18x9 phone (like a p20 pro or, I'm guessing, mate 10 pro as well).
Save your money and maybe get one of the phones that will come out next month. The oneplus 6t will the around the price of the G7 and I'm betting it will blow it out of the water.
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Good morning my friend. Are the black rly so bad especially during night?
Another thing pls. Which security patch the phone has? What about 4k 60 fps?
Mate the 10 pro be with you

johnnyman25 said:
Good morning my friend. Are the black rly so bad especially during night?
Another thing pls. Which security patch the phone has? What about 4k 60 fps?
Mate the 10 pro be with you
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Compared to the huawei p20, yes.
I'm seeing here that the last update was on August 10.
4k 60 fps recording or playing?

xtrocata said:
Compared to the huawei p20, yes.
I'm seeing here that the last update was on August 10.
4k 60 fps recording or playing?
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4k 60 fps recording my friend
So it has August security patch? Any slow Motion features?
Thx for answering!
Mate the 10 pro be with you

johnnyman25 said:
4k 60 fps recording my friend
So it has August security patch? Any slow Motion features?
Thx for answering!
Mate the 10 pro be with you
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Yeah, then it does have 4k 60 fps recording. And slow motion

xtrocata said:
Yeah, then it does have 4k 60 fps recording. And slow motion
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What fps and resolution in slow motion? Pls make one comparison between p20 pro and the g7.
Mate the 10 pro be with you

johnnyman25 said:
What fps and resolution in slow motion? Pls make one comparison between p20 pro and the g7.
Mate the 10 pro be with you
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I don't know the resolution. It doesn't specify.
But the p20's slow motion seemed more fluid, if that makes sense.

Galaxy Note 10+ Low Light Update Needed?

I recently watched a video from Max Tech, it was a blind camera review between the S20 Ultra, S20+ & Note 10+...
Link to video
The Note 10+ dominates for a lot of the video but around the 13:20 mark on the video, Max says the Note 10+ fell apart during the low light test because of the camera software not hardware he notes that the Note 10+ could only do 5 second exposure time on the latest update as opposed to the 20+ second exposure time of the S20+ & S20 Ultra & that Samsung could actually fix this in a update.
So why did I make this thread? To complain? No.
I made this thread because I'm curious what you guys think, do you think Samsung will provide us with such a update?, I'm not even sure if they're aware of this issue that's holding the Note 10+ back, but anyway let me know what you guys think, maybe if this gets enough attention and under the assumption Samsung are unaware, we can shed some light on it, in hope of a update/fix!

Impressed that that N10+ held its own there. A software update would be great. Wonder how those same situations would compare using the PixelCam apk. Ty for highlighting this video. Still extremely happy with my N10+.
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Agree, after update to Android 10 photo are more grainy. They decrease quality because of S20 premiere.
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I have not jumped to android 10 just because I have seen lots of things like this, I bought my note 10+ because it is really great as it is, running pie, I think I will stay on pie, I have a note 8 that is running on Nougatt, and works really fine

SkoreK89 said:
Agree, after update to Android 10 photo are more grainy. They decrease quality because of S20 premiere.
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winol said:
I have not jumped to android 10 just because I have seen lots of things like this, I bought my note 10+ because it is really great as it is, running pie, I think I will stay on pie, I have a note 8 that is running on Nougatt, and works really fine
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I don't think it's a Android 10 issue specifically regarding low light, the exposure time being 5 seconds is also prevelant in Android 9 (I've read), it's something Samsung need to newly introduce, extending it, in a future update as far as I'm aware

Also better iso and long exposure. Android 9 had limited iso to 800 and long exposure to 5s. Android 10 3200 max iso and 30 s long exposure. For night landscape with milky way stars or moon this is a huge difference. I stayed on android 9 until last week aswell and i tell you that in camera and battery android 10 is better. Beware i f you update ti backup. I update my phone without backup and loose my calendar some contacts and some movie in secure folder
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smentoma said:
Also better iso and long exposure. Android 9 had limited iso to 800 and long exposure to 5s. Android 10 3200 max iso and 30 s long exposure. For night landscape with milky way stars or moon this is a huge difference. I stayed on android 9 until last week aswell and i tell you that in camera and battery android 10 is better. Beware i f you update ti backup. I update my phone without backup and loose my calendar some contacts and some movie in secure folder
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How are you getting 30 seconds exposure on Android 10, I'm on Android 10 also and it's still only 5 seconds, same as the video I provided, that's why I made the thread as it seems it's capped even on Android 10?
Edit: Is it with the new OneUI 2.1 update?

Once I have the OneUI 2.1 update, I'll be sure to update this thread for anyone interested

smentoma said:
Also better iso and long exposure. Android 9 had limited iso to 800 and long exposure to 5s. Android 10 3200 max iso and 30 s long exposure. For night landscape with milky way stars or moon this is a huge difference. I stayed on android 9 until last week aswell and i tell you that in camera and battery android 10 is better. Beware i f you update ti backup. I update my phone without backup and loose my calendar some contacts and some movie in secure folder
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Vivo Xplay6
Snapdragon 820
IMX362
Camera Pro Mode
iso 3200 max
long exposure to 32s
Android 6.0

TheInfiniteAndroid said:
Once I have the OneUI 2.1 update, I'll be sure to update this thread for anyone interested
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OneUI 2.1 enables 30second exposure and iso 3200
Just tested on my n975f

Reaper1337 said:
OneUI 2.1 enables 30second exposure and iso 3200
Just tested on my n975f
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Thank you for confirming, if possible can you post screenshots/screen recording?, I'd really appreciate it.

Reaper1337 said:
OneUI 2.1 enables 30second exposure and iso 3200
Just tested on my n975f
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Not true. I have this options in my OneUI 2.0 in Pro Mode. N975F version
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My bad
I wanted to say, that it is present in OneUI 2.1
I do not know since which update it is present