Can someone please explain something to me regarding the Google Play services app and if it is beneficial to install the latest version?
I know this appears to be a dumb question but I think there's more to it. I've noticed that even with recently released AOSP based ROMs, they have older versions of Google Play services. (10.2.98)
I realize that some newer versions of an app doesn't necessarily guarantee that it is better, but I'm curious, especially when there are several newer versions, matching variance.
Thoughts?
oryanh said:
Can someone please explain something to me regarding the Google Play services app and if it is beneficial to install the latest version?
I know this appears to be a dumb question but I think there's more to it. I've noticed that even with recently released AOSP based ROMs, they have older versions of Google Play services. (10.2.98)
I realize that some newer versions of an app doesn't necessarily guarantee that it is better, but I'm curious, especially when there are several newer versions, matching variance.
Thoughts?
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If you install a custom Rom with an older version of Google Play Services and also install gapps so that the Play Store is included on your phone the Play Store will automatically update you to the latest version of Google Play Services as long as it's compatible with your phone. When I was on DU on my previous phone that was usually the first thing that would happen if the version they used wasn't up to date. Obviously Rom developers know this is going to happen so I doubt that they actually expect you to stay on an old version.
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Hi,
I'm new to android and modding in general. I've flashed AOKP + gapps on my device. Some of the gapps would not appear in my app drawer no matter how many times I reflashed them, so I installed them manually from the market. The problem is this is not working for Google Music, it does not show up in the market on my device, if I browse to it on the market website, it says that Google Music is not compatible with my device because it is not available in my country (I'm in Canada) which makes no sense since the device shipped with the Music app installed on stock image. Anyone know how I can get it to work?
Thanks
Although the app ships with it if Google Music isn't available in your country you can't download it from the Market. Same with here in the UK
Google search the APK and install it via a file manager on the phone
Install the gapps listed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1484457
Good luck
oh ok, I tried faking the market to a USA one and it still didn't work. I downloaded the apk and installed it manually and it's working.
One question though, shouldn't the AOKP or the gapps that I flashed already mean I should had got it without trying to download it from the market? do you know why some of those gapps like maps, navigation, etc did not show up at all until I downloaded them myself?
Geezer Squid said:
Install the gapps listed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1484457
Good luck
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is this different from the gapps package that is available on the AOKP nightly build website? I'll try it out later when I get home, thanks
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oh ok, I tried faking the market to a USA one and it still didn't work. I downloaded the apk and installed it manually and it's working.
One question though, shouldn't the AOKP or the gapps that I flashed already mean I should had got it without trying to download it from the market? do you know why some of those gapps like maps, navigation, etc did not show up at all until I downloaded them myself?
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Here's a post by Roman:
posted 12 hours ago by Roman Birg [ updated 5 hours ago ]
Important: New Gapps package is bare, so there is no legal trouble for anyone. Please do not ask us to include any extra apps. A wipe is required. I'm sorry if it's missing some apps not available in your country via the Market, but that's the exact reason we cannot include them in the package. This means Google Wallet is no longer included in. It will still work, but you must add it yourself. Thanks for your understanding.
Build 22 is still 4.0.3. Every single build and milestone is built directly from source. As such, we must wait for Google to release sources for 4.0.4. After that, we'll be working day and night to merge the new changes and bring you the latest!
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Here's a post by Roman:
posted 12 hours ago by Roman Birg [ updated 5 hours ago ]
Important: New Gapps package is bare, so there is no legal trouble for anyone. Please do not ask us to include any extra apps. A wipe is required. I'm sorry if it's missing some apps not available in your country via the Market, but that's the exact reason we cannot include them in the package. This means Google Wallet is no longer included in. It will still work, but you must add it yourself. Thanks for your understanding.
Build 22 is still 4.0.3. Every single build and milestone is built directly from source. As such, we must wait for Google to release sources for 4.0.4. After that, we'll be working day and night to merge the new changes and bring you the latest!
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ok well that explains it
Hello everyone, I am new to this community so please try to understand. I just rooted and installed the Paranoid Android Hybrid Rom for my Bell S3 variant. Everyone went fine and I understood everything; considering it was my first flash, but now I cannot see most of the apps in the google play store because they are not "compatible" anymore. I was just wondering, is this a problem with just my install or evidence of the incomplete Rom and is there any way around this problem since the current app compatibility seems pretty limited. I would assume this a problem with the model name the google play store sees after my flash install in contrast to the stock model which let me download all apps. Any help would be greatly appreciated and thank you for reading.
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Hello everyone, I am new to this community so please try to understand. I just rooted and installed the Paranoid Android Hybrid Rom for my Bell S3 variant. Everyone went fine and I understood everything; considering it was my first flash, but now I cannot see most of the apps in the google play store because they are not "compatible" anymore. I was just wondering, is this a problem with just my install or evidence of the incomplete Rom and is there any way around this problem since the current app compatibility seems pretty limited. I would assume this a problem with the model name the google play store sees after my flash install in contrast to the stock model which let me download all apps. Any help would be greatly appreciated and thank you for reading.
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Did you alter your Build.prop for Google Wallet, per chance?
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Did you alter your Build.prop for Google Wallet, per chance?
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No I didn't. I didn't touch any files, just rooted and then flashed the rom then the gapps.
So I was in China last week, and saw a good offer for a Moto Z Play XT1635-03 dual-SIM (which is not on offer in my home region), bought it - and because Android phones for-sale-in-China are shipped without Google services:
(1) I've been unable to install Google Play Services on this. I've relied on several howtos etc. turned up by Google, but nothing works (will install, but everything that relies on Google Play services crash) - perhaps because what Google turns up is not specific for the Moto Z but other brands, which I've been desperate enough to try, even from potentially dodgy sources e.g. Asus, Xiaomi etc.
(I'd actually embedded links to the sites I'd relied on above but the forum anti-spam protection flagged them so I took them back out)
Does anyone know how it can be done? alternatively -
(2) can someone point me towards credible resources for installing non-China firmwares on a Chinese Moto Z Play? If I muck this up I'm not really in a position to fly back to China to seek warranty service
(3) as a matter of curiosity - I understand there's quite a few different not-exactly-compatible forks of AOSP distributions in China already? Aliyun, MIUI, Flyme OS etc. - does anyone know what "variant" of AOSP Motorola uses for it's sale-in-China phones? I find Google to be very difficult for this since Motorola has a large presence *outside* China so it's harder to find China-model-specific information (particularly in English) for the brand, as opposed to China-only brands e.g. Meizu
try install twrp, and flash google play services
use twrp flash the GAPPS
so,you can find what you need here bbs.ixmoe.com/thread-1273-1-1.html
if just for google service flash the twrp rec and use twrp flash the GAPPS
GAPPS
Hello! First you need unlock bootloader, them install TWRP and root. Then download opengapps.apk from opengapps.org and install. Download gapps and install them from TWRP. And you have google services!
Thanks guys. I actually saw an option for Google Play Services in the included Chinese app store but although that would install, it didn't work (I hadn't thought of checking there; am now worried that it SHOULD have worked but I'd mucked up something downloading and installing apks left and right in my earlier attempts. have tried factory reset but still no go, now also worrying about malware/vulnerabilities argh).
So there is no way to enable Google services WITHOUT rooting the device? I'm not sure if the Moto unlock code generator will work with a Chinese SKU serial number (I'll be finding out, will update)
after falsh gapps they stuck on boot loop this method is also not working
I was almost tempted to buy this Chinese Moto Z Play XT1635-03 that has significantly cheaper selling online price. But after reading a lot from other forums and here.
I ended up purchased the XT1635-02 and it was well worth it. Will surely taking the Z2 play by Christmas for an upgrade of myself.
Just flash retail version - it have GAPPS. RERCN don't work with GAPPS on Nougat. Google play services FC
after flash retail no network signal but when return to retcn rom network work perfectly but no google services done all method seprate modem flashing custom rom but not working
gapps..
i use the china version too...and still confuse how to instal google play store without crash...:silly:
I can't find Android Auto on the playstore on my phone, and when I go to the playstore from my PC it tells me that "This app is incompatible with all of your devices."
Is it really incompatible, or maybe this is because Android Auto is not yet available in my country?
2014 said:
I can't find Android Auto on the playstore on my phone, and when I go to the playstore from my PC it tells me that "This app is incompatible with all of your devices."
Is it really incompatible, or maybe this is because Android Auto is not yet available in my country?
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As far as I can tell the only requirements for the app itself is android lollipop and above so it probably is geo restricted
Since I don't have your device anymore I can't check
I have included the app in the attachment below though for you to install yourself
It is compatible, I am using it and installed it from play store. Maybe clear the Play store cache? AS pointed out you can also just install the apk (also from apkmirror)
Thanks. Are you using it with the G5 or the G5 Plus?
What is strange is that it is telling me that it is incompatible with my device, and not that it is not available in my country, as it happens with some other apps.
Is it is safe to install it with an .apk, and would I receive updates if I do it that way?
2014 said:
Thanks. Are you using it with the G5 or the G5 Plus?
What is strange is that it is telling me that it is incompatible with my device, and not that it is not available in my country, as it happens with some other apps.
Is it is safe to install it with an .apk, and would I receive updates if I do it that way?
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The apk I posted was downloaded by myself from the playstore so totally safe
You would only get updates if It is available in your playstore & even then you may have to uninstall & reinstall depending on app signatures if different in different locations
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The apk I posted was downloaded by myself from the playstore so totally safe
You would only get updates if It is available in your playstore & even then you may have to uninstall & reinstall depending on app signatures if different in different locations
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Thanks. If I can get confirmation that it should work with the moto g5 (not the plus) then I will try it out.
Any reason why Google would have country restrictions on Android Auto? The cars are the same, the apps (maps, music etc) work fine, so why place restrictions on Android Auto? Apple doesn't seem to have any such restriction with Car Play (in my country at least)
2014 said:
Thanks. If I can get confirmation that it should work with the moto g5 (not the plus) then I will try it out.
Any reason why Google would have country restrictions on Android Auto? The cars are the same, the apps (maps, music etc) work fine, so why place restrictions on Android Auto? Apple doesn't seem to have any such restriction with Car Play (in my country at least)
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Why do you need confirmation to try it? Just try it - it will either install or say app not installed
Like I said the only min requirements is lollipop so no reason why the app won't install
Some apps maybe geo restricted for licensing purposes - if Googling why the app isn't available in your country doesn't come up with anything the only thing you can do is contact the app developer
He may think you provided a virus.
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He may think you provided a virus.
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Lol by all means scan it - decompile it & check it
If you know my reputation around here you know I provide support
I used to be a recognised contributor but left xda for a while
Also I provided the official twrp for this device
So looking through my past posts/threads you will see the kind of support I provide
Of course, I mean you work on twrp for g5 and yet someone still manages to be suspicious
I am not suspicious I just want to know if it actually works! If this is not a country thing, maybe they marked this phone as incompatible for a good reason. I don't yet have a car with Android Auto so I can't fully test it now. Maybe it would run on the phone itself, but then fail to connect to the car (I've seen reports of this happening for several phones including different versions of the Moto G). Or maybe there is some other kind of bug that only shows up once connected to a car...
2014 said:
I am not suspicious I just want to know if it actually works! If this is not a country thing, maybe they marked this phone as incompatible for a good reason. I don't yet have a car with Android Auto so I can't fully test it now. Maybe it would run on the phone itself, but then fail to connect to the car (I've seen reports of this happening for several phones including different versions of the Moto G). Or maybe there is some other kind of bug that only shows up once connected to a car...
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The only person that can answer your question would be the app developer
Would be quicker & easier to test yourself as the chance of someone with a moto g5 & the car you might have with android auto support would be highly unlikely
In these situations it's always better to just try yourself or contact the app developer for support
I installed the apk that TheFixItMan has provided and it works fine, on both the phone and a car I tried it with for a few minutes. Thanks!
As it was said previously I can't update Android auto from the play store now, so I assume at some point it might stop working properly. Should I just get a new apk every time I need an update?
2014 said:
I installed the apk that TheFixItMan has provided and it works fine, on both the phone and a car I tried it with for a few minutes. Thanks!
As it was said previously I can't update Android auto from the play store now, so I assume at some point it might stop working properly. Should I just get a new apk every time I need an update?
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Yes just get the latest apk
As long as it's just the version that is on the playstore (unmodified) like I provided you can just update it without having to uninstall previous version
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Yes just get the latest apk
As long as it's just the version that is on the playstore (unmodified) like I provided you can just update it without having to uninstall previous version
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Thanks where can I find such unmodified apks of latest versions?
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Yes just get the latest apk
As long as it's just the version that is on the playstore (unmodified) like I provided you can just update it without having to uninstall previous version
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Thanks. Where can I find unmodified apks of latest versions?
2014 said:
Thanks. Where can I find unmodified apks of latest versions?
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Google is your friend
Use an alternative app store like aptoide
Hi, I'm getting back into ROMs after not looking at this forum since the Galaxy S (seriously). I want a ROM without Google baked into it. I see a few ROMs suggesting "dirty build" or optional installation of GAPPs. Do these ROMs actually provide an AOSP build without Google running in the background (play services, etc.)?
Basically, I'm looking for a ROM on my Nexus5x that doesn't track me back through Google (most stable, don't really care about speed/themes). Trying to get away from Google as much as possible due to their constant data mining, and I think this is the only way. Total NEWB here, I did use the search function, but I ran into a bunch of thread that didn't seem directly related.
I think that you are looking for LineageOs (ex CyanogenMod). You can install it without Google apps, so no play services, no Google account required, etc..
toolshed01 said:
I think that you are looking for LineageOs (ex CyanogenMod). You can install it without Google apps, so no play services, no Google account required, etc..
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Thanks, that's what I thought, just wanted to make sure.