Cracks an issue ? - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S8+ Questions & Answers

I've been looking at the Verizon forums, and over there it looks like there's a whole load of people complaining that the S8/S8+ are VERY prone to screen cracking.
I thought I'd ask over here, where I know people are much more careful with their phones.
Maybe the unwashed masses in the wild are more rough with their phones.
How has everyone found the build ? Delicate ?

I've only dropped it once on the corner, but I have a Spigen bumper case and the phone survived. The majority of people are clumsy and don't see this as an $850 phone, but rather a $35/month phone so they take it for granted. I'm pretty sure we would be a bit more careful here than others, but that's just my thoughts.

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Can someone help me understand why my Bodyglove case apparently sucks?

I keep seeing posts around the forums saying that the TPU (is that even correct?) cases are by far the best, and also that Bodyglove in particular bites the big one. However, I bought a Bodyglove case with my phone at the Tmobile store (I didn't even know about the galaxy S until mine broke and I needed a new one) and it seems great to me
Albeit the Power button is a bit hard to get to at times, it seems very rugged and like it could really take a beating. I'm pretty rough on my mobile electronics, and used to go through a lot of phones (at one point 5 in 12 months), but have calmed down a bit over the years.
I just want to understand if I am missing out on something, and if so - what that something is worth to me.
Anybody want to bash Bodyglove and help a brotha out at the same time?
the tpu case is awesome, it is like a hard but still flexible plastic which keeps the phone from getting too bulky like the rubberish case you can buy at tmo store.
buttons are a bit funky you have to press harder, but what a good case.
Personally I'm not TPU fan... Though I've only seen some cheap chinese ones, so maybe that is the problem.
I will say, about the body glove... If it is anything like the G1 body glove from TMO it will fall apart. The soft outer material peels off from the hard shell really easily.
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i have a three dollar cheap chinese diamond pattern TPU case and its ****in awesome.
I used to love body glove products. But the last few I've had have totally sucked. I never tried their vibrant model, but my last one for mytouch slide was a total waste of money, but the reason I will never give them another try is when I contacted their customer support they told me they have had no other complaints and that basically it was my fault. I know this is total BS bc look at the feed back on them. I use the TPU hybrid and love it.
The reason I like the TPU over hard plastic is several reasons. First, the TPU is hard enough with withstand a long fall, but the case flexs and gives preventing the shock from blowing a traditional hard case to pieces and transfering the shock to the device. Thirdly is pretty easy to put on and take off without wearing it out like alot of snap together models. And lastly, it was CHEAP.
I'm not terribly experienced in the matter, but I learned a lot watching the daydeal videos on youtube. They actually do a great job of going into the nitty gritty of why you'd choose TPU over aluminum, hard plastic, silicone, etc... but they give a balanced look to show pros and cons. They aren't afraid to bash their own products to some extent either when the design isn't what they'd reccomend.
That said, I think TPU is popular for a few reasons:
- Cheap
- Cheap doesn't necessarily mean inferior quality
- Relative to a rigid Material: doesn't crack or dent, less prone to minor scratches, can wrap around phone without a seam that could loosen over time
- Relative to a soft silicone: friction doesn't make pocket/purse storage a hassle, doesn't tear/rip, better impact protection if there's a drop, doesn't grab onto dust/lint

TPU Case Review (Sorta)

Slipped out of my hands taking it out of my leather holster. The phone fell down face first from about 3 feet high. It made a loud "pop" sound when it hit the floor.
I think it's possible the case made a suction cup type of effect so there was no place for the shock to go which ended up cracking my screen -_-
I probably won't be buying any more cheap $3 cases, but then again this was probably my fault for dropping it in the first place and I'm just trying to find an excuse not to take the blame... lmao
Sorry to hear that...it can (and does) happen to anyone. Try the Otterbox Commuter for your next phone. You can buy replacement screens on Ebay, but you may be better off selling the phone for parts.
Lol... I HAVE the Commuter for the Atrix. I just decided not to use it today because I felt like having less bulk for Mother's Day brunch. LMAO
I've got a couple options so I'm not even worried.
I can get it fixed for about $50 or file an insurance claim for $125. I was wondering though, if anyone knows if they force you into shipping the broken phone back through asurion?
Dropping any phone on its face is going to cause it to shatter probably the only thing that would have saved you is the defender
Have to say though... that's one impressive looking crack. I'm not entirely sure about the whole suction-cup-y thing... seeing as that pocket of air would have been so tiny it would have hardly been an issue.... but that's probably the issue right there. very small lip means that the phone probably still either came in direct contact with the ground.... or just the edge of the case smaking the ground somehow cracked the screen. It's just odd to see it crack quite like that.
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Have to say though... that's one impressive looking crack. I'm not entirely sure about the whole suction-cup-y thing... seeing as that pocket of air would have been so tiny it would have hardly been an issue.... but that's probably the issue right there. very small lip means that the phone probably still either came in direct contact with the ground.... or just the edge of the case smaking the ground somehow cracked the screen. It's just odd to see it crack quite like that.
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Lol however it happened, the end result still sucks I'm pretty sure though that if it were in my defender or commuter case, it would have been fine...
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Since its in this state already, why not see if dropping it with the other case does more damage? It'd be great for the rest of us to find out if you were to experiment a couple more times...
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Since its in this state already, why not see if dropping it with the other case does more damage? It'd be great for the rest of us to find out if you were to experiment a couple more times...
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I still need it to work until I figure out what I want to do! LOL
BUUUUUUUUUUUT... I did slam it in the Defender for the time being. I dropped it a couple times flipping it into the air and failing to catch. The cracks aren't getting any worse from what I can tell. =D

Otterbox Xoom Defender now available

89.95 off the otterbox website.
http://www.otterbox.com/MOTOROLA-XOOM-Defender-Series-Case/MOT2-XOOM1-20-E4OTR_B,default,pd.html
Use code tb0411u for 10% off ;o
Damn... i just logged in to post this... anyone wanna trade keyboard case for otterbox???
'Bout freaking time!
They should give us an introductory price for making us wait so long!
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Use code tb0411u for 10% off ;o
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dam it...I just saw this post after I already put the order in...maybe they'll be nice enough and let me attach the 10% off if I call it in now...
I preordered through Cellularaccessory.com for $58.
Just confirmed with their sales on the phone that they will ship from their warehouse on 6/14.
I remember there is a free shipping code floating around somewhere too.
So if you can wait a few days more, you can save a nice $30 less tax with these guys.
just gave otterbox a call...gave the sales rep the promocode and was able to get the 10% off and because their computers are down at the moment he gave me an additional 10%...
can't wait to get this in and on the XOOM...
review please!!!
those of you who have teken the jump, please post pictures and let us know how good or bad it fits..becasue frm the video on their site i am not verry impress. it wasn't much of a detail, seem like they are hidding something..lol
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those of you who have teken the jump, please post pictures and let us know how good or bad it fits..becasue frm the video on their site i am not verry impress. it wasn't much of a detail, seem like they are hidding something..lol
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There are videos of the bb and ipad.
But honestly, what's ur alternative?
Almost 100 bucks? Now I need a case to protect my Otterbox.
i have one of this case from Kevikev http://kevikev.com/addtocart.sc it only cost be abot $35 back when i got it. believe it or not it is a lot more of a professional looking case and very stylish. i can walk into work with it, or even church. with the otterbox case i'll look like a construction worker. or someone who work with a lot of kids and don't want my xoom to damage. and honestly i don't see the extra protection in the otterbox case. cuz i won't be droping my xoom anytime soon. and so the case is mainly to serve as a stand and a jacket for the device. not a bullet proof.
i also just came across this from the walmart site. it actually look similar to otterbox, obviously not as strong from the looks of it, but design wise it is very similar without the hard screen cover/stand for the otterbox. check it out, if i do seem to find more information on it, i'll give it a try, they also do a free site to store, so yo can pick it up at your local walmart for free. and it only cost $14. maybe a couple dollars extra for tax. http://www.walmart.com/ip/Amzer-Transparent-Jelly-Case-for-Motorola-XOOM-Black/16539974
supremecream06 said:
i have one of this case from Kevikev http://kevikev.com/addtocart.sc it only cost be abot $35 back when i got it. believe it or not it is a lot more of a professional looking case and very stylish. i can walk into work with it, or even church. with the otterbox case i'll look like a construction worker. or someone who work with a lot of kids and don't want my xoom to damage. and honestly i don't see the extra protection in the otterbox case. cuz i won't be droping my xoom anytime soon. and so the case is mainly to serve as a stand and a jacket for the device. not a bullet proof.
i also just came across this from the walmart site. it actually look similar to otterbox, obviously not as strong from the looks of it, but design wise it is very similar without the hard screen cover/stand for the otterbox. check it out, if i do seem to find more information on it, i'll give it a try, they also do a free site to store, so yo can pick it up at your local walmart for free. and it only cost $14. maybe a couple dollars extra for tax. http://www.walmart.com/ip/Amzer-Transparent-Jelly-Case-for-Motorola-XOOM-Black/16539974
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If you're fine with putting a $600+ tablet in a standard folio case just because you're worried about what people with think when they see you with it, then have at it. Personally I want a case to PROTECT my device and I don't care what other people think about it's appearance. It's known that the otterbox cases add a little bit to the size, but the protection they are known to afford the devices make up for that.
I had a standard plastic shell case on my phone and after I dropped it onto asphalt getting into my truck one day it broke apart. The phone was undamaged so I was lucky. I got an otterbox case after that and I don't freak out now if I drop the phone (which I have a few times) because I know it's not going to get damaged. I have the standard motorola folio case and have been waiting for this one to come out so I can stop worrying about dropping my xoom. I'm not going to buy it from otterbox though because I know I can get it cheaper elsewhere.
The one from walmart is just a silicone case. The otterbox is a polycarbonate shell with a silicone case around it. BIG difference there in the protection. Even in the name is says "transparent JELLY case".
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If you're fine with putting a $600+ tablet in a standard folio case just because you're worried about what people with think when they see you with it, then have at it. Personally I want a case to PROTECT my device and I don't care what other people think about it's appearance. It's known that the otterbox cases add a little bit to the size, but the protection they are known to afford the devices make up for that.
I had a standard plastic shell case on my phone and after I dropped it onto asphalt getting into my truck one day it broke apart. The phone was undamaged so I was lucky. I got an otterbox case after that and I don't freak out now if I drop the phone (which I have a few times) because I know it's not going to get damaged. I have the standard motorola folio case and have been waiting for this one to come out so I can stop worrying about dropping my xoom. I'm not going to buy it from otterbox though because I know I can get it cheaper elsewhere.
The one from walmart is just a silicone case. The otterbox is a polycarbonate shell with a silicone case around it. BIG difference there in the protection. Even in the name is says "transparent JELLY case".
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i obviously bought my case becasue i like it. not becasue someone said to buy it. you seem to have miss the point. by stating that the case is a professional and stylish case was my opinion based on my needs. and for my job, the otterbox case is just not going to cut it, also my opinion. and FYI, the cases i have do "PROTECT"t my device so it wouldn't matter what people say including you. my point that the case will me look like a construction worker, was also my opinion. becasue it goes to fact that if i work consruction i would want the extra protection. i don't drop my xoom, like you have. so the extra wight and looks is not my style.
otterbox cases was made for folks who want maxumum protection, i for one had an otterbox case when i had an iphone. it was worth it then, becasue i could drop my phone often. but my XOOM will not be tasting the floor anythime soon, becasue i am very carefull with it. unlike a phone i have no reason to have it on my lap when driving and will never forget it's on my lap before i get out of the car, i have made that mistake with my phone several time.
as for the case on walmart, i was just giving an alternative for a cheaper case for those who will want otterbox but can't spend that much. that's why it's cal;l alternative. it cost less, and it will obviously not be the same as the otterbox case. as i said in that post it looks similar in design, but obviously not the same strenght. otterbox do have their customer market, like you. which is not a bad thing, it's just not a one size fit all. some people like me don't have the need for an otterbox case, because i also bought my xoom the looks. i like how it feels and it's design. so i want to enjoy that.
that's why i laught when i see people with the ipad2, saying it is so light and thin, but they have it cover in an otterbox case that makes it looks and feels like the original ipad.to me it;s like why did you buy it based on how thin it was, only to put it ina bullet proof jacket. and i mean let;s face it, a couple yes from now, when there is a xoom 2 or even xoom 3, you know you'll be wanting to get that one as well. and will likey pass this on to someone or sell it. technology is leap year ahead. so there will always be the next generation product.
otterbox did build a name for themselve with good quality product. it was popular with alot of people, mostly teenager, who don't want their summer paycheck to go in breeze with one drop. so ennjoy your otterbox case my friend, i was just stating my opinion, i wasn't dogging otterbox. it's just not a one size fit all. and some people like me bought my xoom for the look as well as the brain. and looks does matter in the tech world. that's why everyone want to make the pretty phones, thin, big screen, shiney cover, and all tht good stuff.
i bet you won't be buying a old IBM laptop over an HP or Apple. cuz you want the pretty choice not the big and bulky IBM. you want the thin and lightweight next generation laptop. same thing with cars and just about everything else. so let's face it looks matters. and it's not about how others view it, it's about how you will like it, cuz you the one that's gonna spend the most time with it.
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i obviously bought my case becasue i like it. not becasue someone said to buy it. you seem to have miss the point. by stating that the case is a professional and stylish case was my opinion based on my needs. and for my job, the otterbox case is just not going to cut it, also my opinion. and FYI, the cases i have do "PROTECT"t my device so it wouldn't matter what people say including you. my point that the case will me look like a construction worker, was also my opinion. becasue it goes to fact that if i work consruction i would want the extra protection.
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Your exact words were "i can walk into work with it, or even church. with the otterbox case i'll look like a construction worker. or someone who work with a lot of kids and don't want my xoom to damage". That says you don't want it because it will make you LOOK "like a construction worker" to your coworkers and church members. If you don't care, then it shouldn't matter.
i don't drop my xoom, like you have. so the extra wight and looks is not my style.
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I never said I dropped my Xoom. I've dropped my cell phone and there have been times where I've worried about dropping my Xoom, but I have never ACTUALLY dropped it. My point is that if it offers more protection I could care less if other people (including yourself) think it would make me look like a "construction worker". I've never received those opinions about my phone and I doubt anyone would make the same opinion about my Xoom were it in an otterbox. Now, if it had bright yellow markings on it and was much heftier than it is, I could see someone saying it looked like it belonged on a construction site.
otterbox cases was made for folks who want maxumum protection, i for one had an otterbox case when i had an iphone. it was worth it then, becasue i could drop my phone often. but my XOOM will not be tasting the floor anythime soon, becasue i am very carefull with it. unlike a phone i have no reason to have it on my lap when driving and will never forget it's on my lap before i get out of the car, i have made that mistake with my phone several time.
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That's actually how I've dropped my phone a few times lol.
as for the case on walmart, i was just giving an alternative for a cheaper case for those who will want otterbox but can't spend that much. that's why it's cal;l alternative. it cost less, and it will obviously not be the same as the otterbox case. as i said in that post it looks similar in design, but obviously not the same strenght.
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I don't see how something that is completely different from the otterbox would be an alternative to it. That's like saying any other case out there on the market is an alternative to the otterbox. Sure they may be alternatives to "cases" in general, but they're not good alternatives to the otterbox unless they are similar in design. Now if you linked to a cheaper shell case with a silicone outer case instead of just a simple silicone case, there would be no argument that it would be an alternative to the otterbox.
otterbox do have their customer market, like you. which is not a bad thing, it's just not a one size fit all. some people like me don't have the need for an otterbox case, because i also bought my xoom the looks. i like how it feels and it's design. so i want to enjoy that.
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Which is the same reason someone buys an iPad. I bought mine for function over form. You can take a piece of **** and put a pretty bow on it and it's still going to be a piece of ****. The Xoom, on the other hand, is a pretty slick device inside and out so even if you buy it because of "the looks" then you're still getting a good device.
that's why i laught when i see people with the ipad2, saying it is so light and thin, but they have it cover in an otterbox case that makes it looks and feels like the original ipad.to me it;s like why did you buy it based on how thin it was, only to put it ina bullet proof jacket. and i mean let;s face it, a couple yes from now, when there is a xoom 2 or even xoom 3, you know you'll be wanting to get that one as well. and will likey pass this on to someone or sell it. technology is leap year ahead. so there will always be the next generation product.
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I couldn't agree more with this statement
otterbox did build a name for themselve with good quality product. it was popular with alot of people, mostly teenager, who don't want their summer paycheck to go in breeze with one drop. so ennjoy your otterbox case my friend, i was just stating my opinion, i wasn't dogging otterbox. it's just not a one size fit all. and some people like me bought my xoom for the look as well as the brain. and looks does matter in the tech world. that's why everyone want to make the pretty phones, thin, big screen, shiney cover, and all tht good stuff.
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I for one know that when my daughter gets old enough to have a cell phone she will have an otterbox on it. My wife is pretty clumsy and I have a bad feeling my daughter will be the same way. lol
i bet you won't be buying a old IBM laptop over an HP or Apple. cuz you want the pretty choice not the big and bulky IBM. you want the thin and lightweight next generation laptop. same thing with cars and just about everything else. so let's face it looks matters. and it's not about how others view it, it's about how you will like it, cuz you the one that's gonna spend the most time with it.
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Actually I wouldn't buy any of those, but I wouldn't buy an "old" anything. I would never consider buying an apple laptop because they charge too much for what you actually get, and I have never really liked hp laptops. Even IBM knows that lighter is better because laptops are more portable as ever these days and with competition between laptops/netbooks/tablets they have to keep up. Their new lenovo laptops aren't the big ol bricks they used to be. I buy for the purpose I need it for. If I'm going to have a laptop I never take away from the house I would go for something like an alienware or XPS system that aren't the lightest things in the world, but they're powerful. When I was in the military I had a panasonic toughbook and loved it. Damn thing was almost bulletproof just on it's own. I would prefer to have the whole package of form AND function, but if I had to choose between an old datsun 280Z that ran like a dream and a brand new nissan Z that could barely go into gear/had no stereo/transmission falling apart I would go for the 280z that ran. I will choose function over form any day as long as it gets the job done.
My last post was a little off topic, so to be a litter more ON-topic XD if they sold a commuter case as well I would be all over it. For anyone that doesn't know the difference, the commuter case has the silicone around the device and the poly shell on the outside instead of the other way around with the defender. It seems like the commuter cases are only made for phones though.
lol..you are such a fun guy to chat with. you broke it all down. which i like. however to all your point as stated it is simply opinion. by me saying i can walk into work or church is my opinion. and i'll say this otterbox on a phone doesn't look bad, becasue of the form factor. it is small and not as obvious as it would be on a xoom. that's why i can quickly pick u when someone has an ipad2 with the bullet proof jacket on. and so you might not have gotten the construction worker comment, becasue people wont say that to you, especially after when they don't know the device you have. ie. i have had aye people as me if my xoom was the ipad. the look on my face usually answer the question.
but i'll tell you man, when i see the otterbox on a tablet (so far only the ipad i've seen) it reminds me of constructon worker doing survey in the field, and that's just a picture in my head, which i not a bad thing i should say. there is nothing agains construction worker. it could easily be one of those at&t workers on a poll connecting telephone wires, or a comcast cable guy doing connection test. those are the target market for otterbox. not that they don't appreciate you the regular folk buying their product. but they are targetting a different market with those bullet proof jacket.
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Got my otterbox for xoom and installed it:
Pros:
Great protection
can dock without removing case
access to power button with and without outtershell attached.
well built
can power without removing from case
ports are wellsealed
Cons:
the outer shell design adds too much thickness via excess space (see comparison pic between iPad I and Xoom Otterbox case.
Outer shell squishy due to excess space.(poor design)
1st pic outer shell on Xoom. So much space you can see through it
2d pic outer shell on iPad nice and sleek (looks good)
3rd pic side by side comparison
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Cons:
the outer shell design adds too much thickness via excess space (see comparison pic between iPad I and Xoom Otterbox case.
Outer shell squishy due to excess space.(poor design)
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Any ideas how you would redesign it to remove the excess space? I'm assuming that space was put there on purpose to accommodate for something else.
i think the space is to prevent any damage to the screen by scratching. because the cover has parts that prop it up to make a stand. that could be a reason. but i don't have one, so i can't be sure. but we'll find out soon.
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i think the space is to prevent any damage to the screen by scratching. because the cover has parts that prop it up to make a stand. that could be a reason. but i don't have one, so i can't be sure. but we'll find out soon.
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Mine came in already, just wish I was home to unpack it. I'll update you guys tomorrow night.

For those that don't use cases........

First off, I don't want this discussion to turn into a war between those who use cases, and those who don't. I would just like to know how much resale value means to those who don't. Do you guys plan on reselling it? Does getting less money for it matter? Because let's be honest, without a case, it will get at least minor scratches, (sometimes not so minor) dirt, signs of wear, etc.
Me personally, I've had a case on it since minute one. (I still haven't touched the back of the phone with my fingers) But, I figure since it will still look brand new when I go to sell it, I will get top $$$ that can go towards the next Google masterpiece. Before anyone talks about bulk, I use a minimal clear case (so I can still see my beautiful red N5) so I figure I have the best of both worlds. (protection and looks)
Interested how others feel.
I used to use cases. Now I just enjoy the feel of my bare phone. As long as you don't drop it and completely screw up the phone, minor scratches will only help you get at most around $30 extra. If that amount of money is worth using a case for you then do you. But also, it's much easier to sell a phone with a few wear and tear for a cheaper price then having to wait around for someone that is willing to pay extra for a near perfect phone(cus dust gets in a case and causes scratches also). If you don't mind a case and you feel like a clumsy person that drops their phone often then use it. If your using it because your protecting it for resale, quit being a chumpchangemuthafk%r and enjoy your phone. Just my thoughts, do whatever makes you happy
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Also, I don't see a single scratch on my n5 and I've been naked for at least 2 months. Ironically, the only damage on my phone is wear on all four corners due to the slim spigen case I was using.
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I've never used cases on any of my phones because I don't like the bulk and the feeling that is added. I don't plan on selling my phone. Old smartphones I've had have found new uses (media player, camera)
I hate cases. Guess I'm lucky because when I've sold phones I've gotten the same value as everyone else. I've used at least 25 different phones.
Mainly use a case because I couldn't stand having a phone that is scratched up. Not really about the resale value
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I don't plan on selling my phone. Old smartphones I've had have found new uses (media player, camera)
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I have my old smartphones (keep them updated with roms). I allow my kids and their friends to use them around the house as mini tablets on wifi. I also like to expieriment with different roms and such (i'm a crackflasher), and they allow me to do so without constantly wiping data
It really depends on a lot of things such as your environment, what sort of activities you do etc. However, having said that. I carry my phone eveywhere - climbing mountains, playing sports and so on. I've never used my phones in cases. I've been pretty lucky as yes I have dropped my phone on the odd occasion, however this has been about once per year. I'm usually very careful with my devices. The last couple of years, all I've used for protection is a sticker/skin on the back and a screen protector on the front. My Nexus 4 was as good as new when I sold it and my Nexus 5 is still absolutely mint (as new).
Yes protection is good but I personally hate making my phone feel bulky and ugly. I just try to look after it. That has worked well for me so far Touch wood!
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Case and glass screen protector absolutely necessary thing.
I even do not buy any phone until third manufacturer make it.
I definitely can go around for the first couple of days after getting a new device without a case, but knowing myself I tend to drop things. A lot. So I always end up buying one within the first week of owning the device. On my G2 I have a Platinum case from Best Buy. A bit pricey, yes. But it is super slim, easy to grip, and actually adds a bit of class to the phone so it's a win win
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Case and glass screen protector absolutely necessary thing.
I even do not buy any phone until third manufacturer make it.
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No offence but saying it's "absolutely necessary" is a bit misleading. I've had several phones over the last few years ranging from the plastic Samsung's to LG Nexus 4 with glass back to HTC One's aluminium...none have any scratches. None have been used in a case. It depends on how you look after them...and no I don't keep mine in a cotton wool. right now my Nexus 5 is sitting on the wooden desk and so is my Galaxy S5.
I don't use a case or screen protector. I don't care about resale value. I'll just use my phone as is. I think Nexus phones are already pretty cheap, so there isn't much resale value, might as well just keep it ad a backup.
The most i use in terms of a "case" is a TPU shell. Basically just something like the Cruzerlite TPU cases..... or even a cheapy eBay TPU case. Never once used a screen protector, because lets face it, they tend to just make the screen feel like crap (and glass ones seem a bit too fragile to me, anyway)
and i agree 100% with ritzxda. Cases aren't necessary if you treat your phone with care, as you SHOULD treat something that cost you a fairly significant amount of money. I can't remember a time where i dropped my phone. Only damage i've ever had to a phone i've owned was on my old Motorola Atrix 4G, where there were hairline cracks on the back cover at the corners from removing and reattaching the cover multiple times.
You don't have to handle your phone with velvet gloves to make it last.... just like you don't have to have it in an armor-plated inch-thick case with hardened glass protecting GLASS. You just have to be mindful of what you're doing with your phone, and where it is at all times. If you're like me and always have your phone in your front left pocket.... don't go doing stuff and putting heavy objects against it or running into stuff and hitting it. When you hold your phone.... HOLD your phone. Not necessarily kung-fu grip... but not so haphazardly that a moment of your mind wandering.... or even a gentle breeze could send it tumbling to the ground.
It's not rocket science, people. Case manufacturers can make a fortune on clumsy people.
I always purchase a case for my phones, but only use them when i'm camping or working out or something. i've found that a case seems to make me less careful with my phone. I hate scratches, scuffs and oil prints though, so i always purchase and apply a Skinomi or Xtreme Guards skin for my phone. I've also found that some cases can actually scratch the phone pretty badly.
I'm a phone swapper, so 98 percent of the time i sell my phone when i'm done with it. The only phone i've broken was my second nexus 4 (traded to get a white one) after dropping it from waist level onto cement. Absolutely my fault, and i happened to be using a TPU case that day. most cases aren't meant to protect from falls anyway, so i figure a skinomi does just fine.
I don't use a case, but then again that's because I'm undecided on one. I've shattered a few screens in my day.... Not concerned about resale value.
No case or screen protector here. Thats what Insurance is for. lol. I don't sell my phones when I get a new one anyway. I like to collect them for some weird reason. But even though I don't use a case in a normal day, I do put it on if I feel there is a chance of dropping it. Like maybe a night out or a concert or something. Cases just take away the beauty of the device.
For me is not about protecting the phone. I simply don't have room in my pocket for phone and wallet so it's easiest to combine both.
The phones get recycled to wife and kids and are usually pristine when I pass them on but don't stay that way for long . As to resale I've purchased a couple of second hand phones but would never buy a scratched one.
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I use a case, but the reason is not related to resale value. I just don't have an extra $390 for a new N5.
The case also makes the phone way easier for me to hold and use it. To me, it also feels better and looks better with a case on. Resale value never crossed my mind, although it does seem a slight benefit now that you mention it.
Most of the time my phone is protected with a cheap 0.3mm case or a Nexus bumper case with a glass SP but that's mostly due to my work environment at sea where I spend up to 90days out. Once I'm home I throw away my case where I don't have to see it again till duty calls. Its nothing to do with resell value but I tend to get slightly OCD when I see scratches.
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no screen protector here, they don't give the same feel on the screen, and still I don't care of the microscratches if I can't use my phone as it was intended to.
I wouldn't use a case too, for the reasons already listed, but I know I'll drop my nexus (and actually it did happen several times)... also, the bugdroid circuit is really nice
The last time I used a case was back in early 2010. I've dropped a phone one time, and thankfully it was a Moto G so it came out completely fine. I've set some simple rules for myself, like always keeping a firm grip, always using 2 hands to operate while standing/moving, and just never pulling the phone out of my pocket in a parking lot.
Above all, I have a parkinsonian tremor. Because of that fact alone, I don't excuse anyone short of having muscular dystrophy for dropping their phone.
But, you know what's always cheaper than a good case? Insurance. Just always have insurance.
Edit: Oh, and for resale value, I recently sold my Galaxy Nexus that I had for almost 2 years. It was sold as being in flawless condition, and the buyer was totally surprised at how perfect it was. The oleophobic coating was worn off, but that happens at about 6 months of use.

Are Otterbox style cases becoming a problem on newer phones?

For years Otterbox was the gold standard for phone protection and most phone cases have been based to some degree on the same design --surround the back and sides of the phone with a layer of rubber or TPU or plastic to provide drop protection and cushioning if you are careless with your phone. The basic design idea is pretty much exactly the same as it was since the earliest days of Android phones.
But Android phones have changed drastically. Because of the increased CPU power Android phones are running at higher temperatures every year. Phone makers have gravitated towards aluminum unibody designs for these phones because aluminum is a great material for rapid heat dissipation while plastic traps heat.
But if you use an Otterbox style case on these phones the case traps heat and completely eliminates the intended benefits of the phone's aluminum design.
I know a lot of people claim to have no problems with their Pixels overheating but I'm not one of them. If you contact Pixel support they freely admit that overheating is one of the most common problems users report. One of the first things Pixel Support asked when I reported that my phone was overheating was whether I was using a case. When I said I was support immediately suggested that I remove the case and see if the phone still overheated. So far it hasn't.
So my question is do people think an Otterbox style case is still a good idea on an aluminum unibody phone even though it directly interferes with how the phone was engineered or is that style of case becoming too out of date to use on the latest Android flagship phones?
I don't know about the Gold Standard part but they were extremely popular and I guess in a lot of ways, still are?
As far as them trapping heat in the case, they have always done that, but phones did run that hot, or we just didn't really care and phones are running a lot cooler now? I don't know. I don't ever remember taking off an otterbox case in the past and worrying about the heat. I don't even remember the last time I saw a phone with a heat warning screen that won't let you power on the device.
I have never liked otterbox cases though because of the screen protector that's built in. I always wished they had offered a version that had Plexiglas or 9H glass. Phones got bigger and their cases also didn't get any smaller. It's an otterbox after all I guess. I do believe that they are in dire need of a redesign because you are for sure right about that not having been changed. I think they should get away from the thick rubber they use and may try TPU instead. There are many "rugged" enough cases for far less then an Otterbox case and provides the same amount of protection. I think that's why their market share has dropped over the years.
Jammol said:
I don't know about the Gold Standard part but they were extremely popular and I guess in a lot of ways, still are?
As far as them trapping heat in the case, they have always done that, but phones did run that hot, or we just didn't really care and phones are running a lot cooler now? I don't know. I don't ever remember taking off an otterbox case in the past and worrying about the heat. I don't even remember the last time I saw a phone with a heat warning screen that won't let you power on the device.
I have never liked otterbox cases though because of the screen protector that's built in. I always wished they had offered a version that had Plexiglas or 9H glass. Phones got bigger and their cases also didn't get any smaller. It's an otterbox after all I guess. I do believe that they are in dire need of a redesign because you are for sure right about that not having been changed. I think they should get away from the thick rubber they use and may try TPU instead. There are many "rugged" enough cases for far less then an Otterbox case and provides the same amount of protection. I think that's why their market share has dropped over the years.
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My Pixel XL shut down multiple times because of overheating until I ditched the more protective case I was using and switched to a RhinoShield Bumper Case, which I'm still getting used to because it doesn't seem nearly protective enough. The Nexus 6P and Nexus 5X both suffered permanent damage over time caused by heat. Multiple LG phones including their flagship suffered permanent damage over time because of heat. Starting with the Samsung Galaxy S6 it's easy to find complaints online from users of Samsung's flagship phones about their phones shutting down without warning because of overheating. I don't think trapping heat was an issue with the older smartphones because they weren't that powerful compared with today's phones and didn't run nearly as hot. Smartphone bodies also weren't designed specifically to dissipate heat until fairly recently. I think the design of these cases interferes with the engineering design of the phones and that eventually it might get to the point where phone manufacturers might void your warranty if your phone suffers damage because you used a protective case that prevented the phone from cooling as intended.
True story about their screen protectors sucking. They are really easy to remove though. They're only held on with a small bead of glue around the outside. Just wiggle it for a few seconds and it comes right off. I prefer the matte finish screen protectors, because they resist finger prints and are reduce glare outside.
Jammol said:
I don't know about the Gold Standard part but they were extremely popular and I guess in a lot of ways, still are?
As far as them trapping heat in the case, they have always done that, but phones did run that hot, or we just didn't really care and phones are running a lot cooler now? I don't know. I don't ever remember taking off an otterbox case in the past and worrying about the heat. I don't even remember the last time I saw a phone with a heat warning screen that won't let you power on the device.
I have never liked otterbox cases though because of the screen protector that's built in. I always wished they had offered a version that had Plexiglas or 9H glass. Phones got bigger and their cases also didn't get any smaller. It's an otterbox after all I guess. I do believe that they are in dire need of a redesign because you are for sure right about that not having been changed. I think they should get away from the thick rubber they use and may try TPU instead. There are many "rugged" enough cases for far less then an Otterbox case and provides the same amount of protection. I think that's why their market share has dropped over the years.
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hooks024 said:
True story about their screen protectors sucking. They are really easy to remove though. They're only held on with a small bead of glue around the outside. Just wiggle it for a few seconds and it comes right off. I prefer the matte finish screen protectors, because they resist finger prints and are reduce glare outside.
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Yep, often used to pop them out myself and just keep a film screen protector on the device. Lol, tempered glass want even out yet as screen protectors, so you could tell how long ago that was since I've used an OtterBox case. ?
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Yep, often used to pop them out myself and just keep a film screen protector on the device. Lol, tempered glass want even out yet as screen protectors, so you could tell how long ago that was since I've used an OtterBox case. ?
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I used to pop out the plastic screen protectors myself because they were terrible. Dust would inevitably get between the phone screen and the plastic screen protector since the screen protector wasn't attached to the screen which would drive me crazy in an OCD way. I would take the phone out and clean everything but it would just happen again after a few days so I just gave up and popped the OtterBox screen protector out. That was fine as long as you replaced it with another screen protector, which I did on my earlier devices. But eventually screen protectors lost their appeal for me. If you had an OtterBox case and popped out the plastic screen protector without adding another one there would be this annoying gap between the edges of the case and the phone screen that dust, dirt, small food crumbs, salt and the like could easily get into which again drove me crazy. The gap between the edge of the case and the phone screen was so wide without the built in screen protector that you could easily stick a fingernail in it. That was when I gave up on OtterBox cases completely and started using other brands. I kind of like this bumper case I'm currently using --it blends well and you can see the actual design of the phone including the back, which I always previously covered with some black protective case or another. I'm just afraid of cracking the glass on the back of the Pixel or scratching it up. The phone feels almost naked compared with the cases I'm used to. But it also looks nicer than it did in the old case.
Jammol said:
I don't know about the Gold Standard part but they were extremely popular and I guess in a lot of ways, still are?
As far as them trapping heat in the case, they have always done that, but phones did run that hot, or we just didn't really care and phones are running a lot cooler now? I don't know. I don't ever remember taking off an otterbox case in the past and worrying about the heat. I don't even remember the last time I saw a phone with a heat warning screen that won't let you power on the device.
I have never liked otterbox cases though because of the screen protector that's built in. I always wished they had offered a version that had Plexiglas or 9H glass. Phones got bigger and their cases also didn't get any smaller. It's an otterbox after all I guess. I do believe that they are in dire need of a redesign because you are for sure right about that not having been changed. I think they should get away from the thick rubber they use and may try TPU instead. There are many "rugged" enough cases for far less then an Otterbox case and provides the same amount of protection. I think that's why their market share has dropped over the years.
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It would appear you're not very familiar with OtterBox products in recent years. Only one model has the built in plastic screen, several other models do not have this. Additionally, their cases have gotten smaller and more streamlined, again, it depends on the case model you're looking at. Their symmetry series is one of my favorite cases on the market. Very well built, slim and incredibly strong and protective. Sadly they don't make it for the Pixel.
mlin said:
It would appear you're not very familiar with OtterBox products in recent years. Only one model has the built in plastic screen, several other models do not have this. Additionally, their cases have gotten smaller and more streamlined, again, it depends on the case model you're looking at. Their symmetry series is one of my favorite cases on the market. Very well built, slim and incredibly strong and protective. Sadly they don't make it for the Pixel.
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The appearance would be wrong. I know of their products. I commented on the one(s) that I used! If I didn't use it, why comment about it?!?
By the way, the other reason I stopped using their products is because of the prices.
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The appearance would be wrong. I know of their products. I commented on the one(s) that I used! If I didn't use it, why comment about it?!?
By the way, the other reason I stopped using their products is because of the prices.
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Far enough, though your comments seemed to apply to OtterBox globally as opposed to a specific product line. I was simply pointing out that the negative points you made against them we're addressed in different product lines. Their cases are expensive.
jhs39 said:
My Pixel XL shut down multiple times because of overheating until I ditched the more protective case...
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damn that's crazy, never did I expect your problem to be caused by the case itself! I'm using a spigen rugged armor FYI, could never replicate the problem. I even jumped on the O beta just to try to get my phone to crash for you lol
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Far enough, though your comments seemed to apply to OtterBox globally as opposed to a specific product line. I was simply pointing out that the negative points you made against them we're addressed in different product lines. Their cases are expensive.
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Yeah, I was only speaking of the defender one. The other ones aren't bad, I just don't like the prices on them.
I don't care much about all these heating stuffs, but if you use a full body case like that, Otterbox or whatever (it was the Nillkin Frosted Shield for me), then heat will be much more intense for the reasons already mentioned on OP. I ran the Antutu benchmark app with the case on and off, and there was a pretty big difference on scores. Never did like full body cases anyway, and this was just an incentive to not use them. Backless bumpers all the way.
mlin said:
It would appear you're not very familiar with OtterBox products in recent years. Only one model has the built in plastic screen, several other models do not have this. Additionally, their cases have gotten smaller and more streamlined, again, it depends on the case model you're looking at. Their symmetry series is one of my favorite cases on the market. Very well built, slim and incredibly strong and protective. Sadly they don't make it for the Pixel.
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I am actually familiar with their slimmer cases like the commuter line but those cases still completely cover the back of the phone, trap heat and prevent aluminum body phones from dissipating heat as intended just like the thicker cases do. And the thick Otterbox Defender Case with the annoying plastic screen protector is not only still being made but it's available for the Pixel XL.
ithehappy said:
I don't care much about all these heating stuffs, but if you use a full body case like that, Otterbox or whatever (it was the Nillkin Frosted Shield for me), then heat will be much more intense for the reasons already mentioned on OP. I ran the Antutu benchmark app with the case on and off, and there was a pretty big difference on scores. Never did like full body cases anyway, and this was just an incentive to not use them. Backless bumpers all the way.
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Have you found that backless bumpers provide enough protection for your phone? I'm new to this type of case but haven't had any problems so far.
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damn that's crazy, never did I expect your problem to be caused by the case itself! I'm using a spigen rugged armor FYI, could never replicate the problem. I even jumped on the O beta just to try to get my phone to crash for you lol
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That's actually the exact same case I was using. It was very hot out both days I had problems with the phone shutting down--in the high 90's and between the heat, the sun, the GPS, Spotify, the car charger and possibly the case it was too much for the phone to handle. I've only driven around in similar conditions once since switching to the bumper type case with no back but the phone didn't overheat and shut down. I'm waiting for another scorching hot day to test the phone again.
The weird thing is that I was looking specifically for Pixel XL cases that claim to dissipate heat before I purchased the bumper case. If you do a Google search cases that claim to dissipate heat are very common for sale in Australia, New Zealand and India but the places that sold them wouldn't ship the cases to the USA and nobody I could find sells any of those cases here. Who knows if they even work--but it's easy to see why people in those particular places would be more concerned with their phones overheating than people in the US seem to be.
Otterbox Defender for the PIXEL XL is only $19.99 on Amazon....($59.99 at Best Buy...lol.) The thinner Commuter case is actually more expensive at $25.99
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M5AIFGR/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
I tired some $10 case that was kinda like the Otterbox...POETIC Revolution Series....but the rubber it use too hard and slippery. Felt cheap.
I don't see how people can complain about Otterbox prices...$20 for a well proven brand and design to protect a $800+ device....no second thoughts here. And of course it gonna cost 2x as much at a Retail store. Prices are very good on Amazon/Ebay.
I have noticed my Pixel getting quite warm....hottest I have felt it is when it was being used naked in the Google Daydream. hanst slowed down or shutdown at all.
speedingcheetah said:
Otterbox Defender for the PIXEL XL is only $19.99 on Amazon....($59.99 at Best Buy...lol.) The thinner Commuter case is actually more expensive at $25.99
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M5AIFGR/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
I tired some $10 case that was kinda like the Otterbox...POETIC Revolution Series....but the rubber it use too hard and slippery. Felt cheap.
I don't see how people can complain about Otterbox prices...$20 for a well proven brand and design to protect a $800+ device....no second thoughts here. And of course it gonna cost 2x as much at a Retail store. Prices are very good on Amazon/Ebay.
I have noticed my Pixel getting quite warm....hottest I have felt it is when it was being used naked in the Google Daydream. hanst slowed down or shutdown at all.
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They normally aren't 20 bucks, normally retail is 59.99. I didn't get one at first becuase of that, but my iblason case is broken from repeated drops, so I just got it for 20 bucks. If not, i would have re purchased the iblason case for 16 bucks.
chapelfreak said:
They normally aren't 20 bucks, normally retail is 59.99. I didn't get one at first becuase of that, but my iblason case is broken from repeated drops, so I just got it for 20 bucks. If not, i would have re purchased the iblason case for 16 bucks.
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Been 19.99 since i added it to my Wish list 3 months ago...back when i first was researching phones and accessories.....whatever....prices change..
speedingcheetah said:
Been 19.99 since i added it to my Wish list 3 months ago...back when i first was researching phones and accessories.....whatever....prices change..
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I've had the pixel XL since early Dec. Haven't needed another case until recently. So I never looked until a few days ago. I actually got a amazon wearhouse deal for 16.49 for it lol

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