Moto Z Play should easily get Android O too - Moto Z Play Questions & Answers

I am shocked too see people spreading the news that moto z play will get Android 7.1.1 or 7.1.2 like its so fortunate for moto z play. I mean c'mon doesn't Google has an 18 months software update policy? This phone was just released in September 2016. So I believe our moto z play should go atleast till Anroid O yeah?!

shantusingh said:
I am shocked too see people spreading the news that moto z play will get Android 7.1.1 or 7.1.2 like its so fortunate for moto z play. I mean c'mon doesn't Google has an 18 months software update policy? This phone was just released in September 2016. So I believe our moto z play should go atleast till Anroid O yeah?!
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Yes you are right!

With Android O Google makes it easier for manufacturers to develop upgrades so who knows, maybe we get even later versions of Android on our Play.

AgentSmith said:
With Android O Google makes it easier for manufacturers to develop upgrades so who knows, maybe we get even later versions of Android on our Play.
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I believe that is the exact reason it will be sent to an early grave
Qualcomm will be like: nah we ain't working on that new vendor interface for our old SOC, why should we
And if not them Motorola will be like: Nah we ain't working on including that new major change Qualcomm made, too much effort for our midrange device

Nobody knows, except moto
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We should got android O for map when androidP release for nexus

lots of points are being made hmmm.... lets hope for the best that we get at least Android O !!

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hey ,
when we r going to get new update any idea in moto g5 ?
ayushmantiwari95 said:
hey ,
when we r going to get new update any idea in moto g5 ?
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1st April 2018
TheFixItMan said:
1st April 2018
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I'm talking about new update it's July now no new update still on Moto g5
ayushmantiwari95 said:
I'm talking about new update it's July now no new update still on Moto g5
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Yeah and he said when ? (it's a joke)
ayushmantiwari95 said:
I'm talking about new update it's July now no new update still on Moto g5
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In first Moto G era they only have few ( perhaps only 2 -5 ) line up of phones, and now they have 5 generation moto g, 4 generations moto e, moto x, x play, z, z play, x ist gen...bla bla bla....many phones.... I suppose the human resources who handling this software update increases now if we compare with the first generation of Moto G. The problem is could they handle all of it??? I don't know what they are thinking....Why they dont make it more simple, so they can focus on more after sale services....
I was angry before about this condition but let take a positive side in here. An update does not always make the phone better, probably they learned from last year update....let talk moto x play, after recent update a lot some or most of user faces SD card problem and the solution is changing the motherboard, so the update killed the motherboard . I think they are not ready to support all their phone's line up.
This is the line up for 2017 phone : Moto C , Moto E4, Moto G5, Moto G5 Plus, Moto GS , Moto GS plus, Moto Z2 play, Moto Z2, Moto Z2 Force, Moto X
ayushmantiwari95 said:
hey ,
when we r going to get new update any idea in moto g5 ?
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May security patch should be rolling out soon.
ayushmantiwari95 said:
hey ,
when we r going to get new update any idea in moto g5 ?
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Nobody here knows, no point asking.
Closed to avoid adverse comments in that regard.

Android O based Custom ROM coming soon!

Android O has already booted on g5 plus somewhere!
(Looks like vache is working on a Android O based custom ROM.)
Exciting!
Maybe its just me, but Oreo seems to be progressing a lot faster for non nexus devices than previous android versions. Can't wait.
itslels said:
Maybe its just me, but Oreo seems to be progressing a lot faster for non nexus devices than previous android versions. Can't wait.
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Yup one of the feature is easy migration and seems like not lot of changes too.
This is just a start, a good one. Apparently, there are many bugs to be fixed. Also, I wonder whether Treble will be integrated (or we have wait till Motorola's official release)
This looks promising. Thanks for sharing
Moto G5S plus is running android 7.1.1 (INDIA) out-of-the-box and here we are still running 7.0
why this partiality? or lack of team?
we are thinking of Android O huuh!
pranjal24 said:
Moto G5S plus is running android 7.1.1 (INDIA) out-of-the-box and here we are still running 7.0
why this partiality? or lack of team?
we are thinking of Android O huuh!
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Moto G5 Plus and Moto G5S Plus have the same firmware. The difference lies in screen size and camera.
So it will not be difficult for Lenovo to update Moto G5 Plus. But I don't think Lenovo will update Moto G5 Plus with even security patches, Android version upgrade seems impossible.
for those who canr wait to check.
https://plus.google.com/117672241215103081187/posts/QuDVJaMjRVD
blitzkid said:
for those who canr wait to check.
https://plus.google.com/117672241215103081187/posts/QuDVJaMjRVD
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Thanks for the find! Obviously there will be a lot of issues, but it'll be fun to flash for a min and check out.

No OREO in march either

I got good news for you all!
https://mobilesupport.lenovo.com/us/en/Solution/MS126800
No oreo in march either, just a nice security patch..
Who said that security update and Oreo can't be in the same month? A little more optimism.
.czarodziej said:
Who said that security update and Oreo can't be in the same month? A little more optimism.
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The changelog would've said Oreo in it.
M1810 said:
I got good news for you all!
https://mobilesupport.lenovo.com/us/en/Solution/MS126800
No oreo in march neither, just a nice security patch..
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What part of that says "there will be no Oreo update in March"? It just says that the current update will include security patches through 3/1. Nowhere does it say it will be the only update in March. In fact, the staged rollout for Oreo on Lenovo/moto phones has already started in Australia and New Zealand with the X4, and the G5 Plus is on the short list to get the update after the X4, so the chances are really good that we'll start to see the G5 Plus getting Oreo in March or April (the PR firm handling the release of information hasn't given an exact date, just that the rollout has started, and the list of devices that will get it after the X4)
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What part of that says "there will be no Oreo update in March"? It just says that the current update will include security patches through 3/1. Nowhere does it say it will be the only update in March. In fact, the staged rollout for Oreo on Lenovo/moto phones has already started in Australia and New Zealand with the X4, and the G5 Plus is on the short list to get the update after the X4, so the chances are really good that we'll start to see the G5 Plus getting Oreo in March or April (the PR firm handling the release of information hasn't given an exact date, just that the rollout has started, and the list of devices that will get it after the X4)
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The january patch changelig was released in november.. and we got it in februsry with no oreo.. i'm sure the same will happen now..
Also, we'll get oreo after the z series, which has got a new soak test.. so my guess is the end of april or may
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The january patch changelig was released in november.. and we got it in februsry with no oreo.. i'm sure the same will happen now..
Also, we'll get oreo after the z series, which has got a new soak test.. so my guess is the end of april or may
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Which z series phone is running a soak test at the moment?
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Which z series phone is running a soak test at the moment?
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Seems it's the Z, Z Play and Z2 Play at the moment in soak test from their respective XDA forums. There seems to be a couple of reports suggesting the Z Force is also in soak test https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75547609&postcount=7 X4 and Z2 Force have the OTA for Oreo (looks like Z2 Force came out a few days ago).
Maybe after their official release, the G4 Plus/G5 (Plus) and G5S (Plus) devices are next? That is, if the G6 release doesn't get in the way...
I think motorola is waiting for the G5 to reach 1 year so they wln't have to provide 8.1 update..
M1810 said:
I think motorola is waiting for the G5 to reach 1 year so they wln't have to provide 8.1 update..
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Pretty sure they'll release only 8.0 and not 8.1
My take in this is that it will take about 15 days into March until we see this patch being pushed to at least one of the regions.
(Likely to be retbr first) [lucky me, br]
echo92 could be right though, we may see Soak Tests for the G5 Plus.
Actually, I think the Z Play will very, very soon receive Oreo officially
Check this: https://mobilesupport.lenovo.com/us/en/Solution/MS126755
I mean, always keep an eye on the Lenovo Support pages. Search for Maintenance, Oreo. They update it almost daily.
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Pretty sure they'll release only 8.0 and not 8.1
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My guess: they either release 8.1 for the G5 S and G5 S plus or they will release 8.1 for both G5 and G5S plus models..
I actually decided to analyze the time between update release dates and update notes date in the Lenovo Support page...
If my calculations are correct we may only receive Oreo in May. That if they don't decide to come up with an April security patch for Nougat.
reCoded said:
The changelog would've said Oreo in it.
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They obviously aren't including Oreo with this update, but that doesn't mean they can't have a separate update for Oreo without the security patch
Rocketfin said:
They obviously aren't including Oreo with this update, but that doesn't mean they can't have a separate update for Oreo without the security patch
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This could be true.. remember the soak tests from the Z series got december security patch when stock 7.1 already had it..
FWIW - https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G...8-Oreo-Update-CONFIRMED/td-p/3806219/page/131
BlackScout said:
I actually decided to analyze the time between update release dates and update notes date in the Lenovo Support page...
If my calculations are correct we may only receive Oreo in May. That if they don't decide to come up with an April security patch for Nougat.
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Last year a Lenovo device as same price range of Moto g 5 plus got update to Nougat in last week of may.
lol
Android P Preview released and we still didn't get an Oreo update
Never buying any Moto/Lenovo smartphone again
luizlee86 said:
lol
Android P Preview released and we still didn't get an Oreo update
Never buying any Moto/Lenovo smartphone again
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Android One devices are the right way, my next device will be one of them
I would go for custom ROM.. but i'll lose 10% of my camera quality and i won't have stock moto apps which i like..
Anyway, considering how P looks by now, i prefer ore a hundred times.. let's see how this goes until august
M1810 said:
I would go for custom ROM.. but i'll lose 10% of my camera quality and i won't have stock moto apps which i like..
Anyway, considering how P looks by now, i prefer ore a hundred times.. let's see how this goes until august
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Not true, you could always just use one of the HDR+ ports which really improve camera quality

What's next? SP or Oreo?

Are there any release notes for may security patch?
I hope we will receive oreo next..
Personally I think Oreo will come perhaps 1-2 months after the G6 launch.
I still see Motorola using the Android 7 v 8 comparison between the phones as a marketing ploy.
cpm said:
Personally I think Oreo will come perhaps 1-2 months after the G6 launch.
I still see Motorola using the Android 7 v 8 comparison between the phones as a marketing ploy.
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they have sent emails comparing the G5S having 7.1 vs the new G6 with android 8.0.. and then there are the fanboys of motorola saying it was never delayed..
Motorola could step up and give us the android P beta, then release the official in august-september, it counts as only one update just dreaming
M1810 said:
Motorola could step up and give us the android P beta, then release the official in august-september, it counts as only one update just dreaming
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Those are some high expectations my friend
psychopac said:
Those are some high expectations my friend
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i know haha, but i know the developers here will do an awesome work bringing P for us
M1810 said:
i know haha, but i know the developers here will do an awesome work bringing P for us
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Only if they don't move on to another device.
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Only if they don't move on to another device.
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hope not..
psychopac said:
Only if they don't move on to another device.
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The Galaxy Nexus got an 8.1 port so I doubt they would give up on the g5 phones
Consider this:
On how Oreo 8 works vs current 7 so it's a biggie https://www.androidpolice.com/2017/...-will-modularize-android-make-updates-faster/.
Moto G5 Plus will not support project treble
phil0sophic said:
Consider this:
On how Oreo 8 works vs current 7 so it's a biggie https://www.androidpolice.com/2017/...will-modularize-android-make-updates-faster/.
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Oreo != Treble. We won't get treble.
Lenovo screwed us over, stock-ish Android but no major updates or improvements other than security patches. I will never buy another one of their phones again that's for sure. Next device will probably be a Android One device like the Nokia 7 Plus.

Oreo will be coming around june.. on the g5+

https://support.motorola.com/us/en/Solution/MS129979
This is for g5s+ but the g5+ shouldn't be left far behind
Interested in knowing if the kernel is updated to 64 bit or else this update would be utterly useless to developer community apart from camera blobs.
pradsngh523 said:
Interested in knowing if the kernel is updated to 64 bit or else this update would be utterly useless to developer community apart from camera blobs.
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It will still be 32 bit. But we need those blobs yes.
Hmm, having seen no soak tests from either the G5S Plus or the G5 Plus, June may seem a little optimistic. When Motorola was testing the Oreo soak test for the Z Play, they also released the update notes for the Oreo update: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75464851&postcount=181 However, it still was 1-2 months before official OTA deployment.
Whilst it's good to get excited about major updates, I'd still temper expectations until the OTA actually comes out.
echo92 said:
Hmm, having seen no soak tests from either the G5S Plus or the G5 Plus, June may seem a little optimistic. When Motorola was testing the Oreo soak test for the Z Play, they also released the update notes for the Oreo update: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75464851&postcount=181 However, it still was 1-2 months before official OTA deployment.
Whilst it's good to get excited about major updates, I'd still temper expectations until the OTA actually comes out.
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i'll be happy if some good mate shared the soak test files to install when it is out
M1810 said:
i'll be happy if some good mate shared the soak test files to install when it is out
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So long as you're prepared for the possibility of major, possibly device breaking bugs and having to be very careful if you wanted to downgrade back to Nougat (we've got enough bricked devices as it is)... It should be fun, just be careful
A jump is nice. Directly to 8.1 Let's see how much time it would take
I disagree that we will see an upgrade in June... Let's break it down a bit as to why:
Honestly, look at the history of the Oreo upgrade for the G5S+, it has been in beta/soak for almost 5 months. It started in late January, I can provide references but Google will work easily enough here if you don't believe me, and there are verified users getting the initial beta in early February. Although I haven't seen a screenshot of the released version, I am told it has the May security update, meaning the final build was likely early to mid-May... So conservatively that process took 4 months from initial beta test to release.
OK, so a tad longer than most Moto upgrades, but not uncommon as anywhere from 30 to 100 days from initial beta/soak to release is normal. We have seen this process be no shorter than 30 days, although 60 would be "typical", but we have seen it take in excess of 8 months (in the case of Nougat for the Moto X Style/Pure before full release, for example).
Now jump to our device, the G5+... there is no confirmed users with a beta or soak yet, not even semi-substantiated or reputable rumors of it occurring yet in ANY market. Not even confirmation of MFN users getting emails to sign up for the beta test. Plug in the previous numbers and we are looking at a release no earlier than late July, but most likely in September and possibly even later.
Again, this is all guess work and looking at history and my personal knowledge through having Moto devices for a very long time, so I could be wrong... in fact, I hope I am wrong.
Plus, let's not forget this device is already 15 months old (released March 2017), and this puts Oreo release at an age of 18+ months, something Lenovo's Moto has done before for devices this age, but also at an age they have cancelled upgrades (not updates) on other devices at this age as well. Although I don't think they will cancel it, it is a remote possibility to keep in mind.
Just my 2 cents worth... take it as you wish.
Oreo 8.1 now rolling out for the G5S Plus.
We can't be too far behind.
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Oreo 8.1 now rolling out for the G5S Plus.
We can't be too far behind.
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Just curious, what have you seen to show the rollout is happening? I've not seen any OTA reports and the update page for the 8.1 Oreo was taken down (or I can't access it at any rate).
Just Google it (moto g5s plus oreo) and see all the reports from the last 12 hours. Eg BGR, Android Police
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/05/30/android-8-1-oreo-rolling-moto-g5s-plus/
Edit : seems like the articles reference a Motorola update info page that has since been taken down.
Perhaps it went up prematurely?!
Now...G5s plus got...New maintainance release note ...which is not oreo...its a june security patch update
https://support.motorola.com/us/en/Solution/MS130066
( nyway...i m a g4 plus user)
preetvardhan said:
Now...G5s plus got...New maintainance release note ...which is not oreo...its a june security patch update
https://support.motorola.com/us/en/Solution/MS130066
( nyway...i m a g4 plus user)
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well, at least we know that the 8.1 release note was for a soak test.. so oreo is on it's way and as soon as the soal test leaks you all will be able to install it
Now the thing is what is going to happen with the G5 plus non S?
https://support.motorola.com/us/en/Solution/MS130095 this is coming for us in June
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https://support.motorola.com/us/en/Solution/MS130095 this is coming for us in June
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*Maybe coming*
Unfortunately, we have seen these "release notes" posted many times and the associated update never appears on devices.
But since we won't get Oreo for several months, if at all, we will probably see the update.
Oreo will never come to the G5+ due to Oreo being 64bit only (which the G5+ is not), sorry guys...
The G5S+, on the other hand, will have the Oreo update indeed!
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Oreo will never come to the G5+ due to Oreo being 64bit only (which the G5+ is not), sorry guys...
The G5S+, on the other hand, will have the Oreo update indeed!
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I'm confused by this statement about Oreo being only 64 bit - the Moto Z Play (also with the Snapdragon 625) got an update to Oreo (v8.0), which was a 32 bit update... https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/8632026 https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76277398&postcount=28 https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76277699&postcount=29
As I understand it, the G5 Plus, G5S Plus and the Z Play have the same 64 bit capable CPU, just with a 32 bit stock ROM, unless something changed?
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I'm confused by this statement about Oreo being only 64 bit - the Moto Z Play (also with the Snapdragon 625) got an update to Oreo (v8.0), which was a 32 bit update... https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cp...pers.com/showpost.php?p=76277699&postcount=29
As I understand it, the G5 Plus, G5S Plus and the Z Play have the same 64 bit capable CPU, just with a 32 bit stock ROM, unless something changed?
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Oreo is able to run on 32bit systems, as you quoted, it does on the Z Play. As changing from 32 to 64bit needs a complete wipe no OEM will change that with an OTA update. Motorola knew what devices are running which OS and they wouldn't have announced Oreo for Moto G5 and G5+.
Some people just don't have the correct informations.
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Sometimes I wonder that Moto is treating G5 plus differently than G5S plus but both the phones are basically the same (IMO), the only difference being the screen size and the dual camera setup and thus will update G5 plus after updating the special edition G5S plus, if this happens, I'm pretty sure we won't be seeing Oreo till the end of September, maybe November.
This is just an assumption and I'm not saying that it's correct but I just hope it's not and Moto will release a patch note for G5 plus Oreo update soon.
psychopac said:
Sometimes I wonder that Moto is treating G5 plus differently than G5S plus but both the phones are basically the same (IMO), the only difference being the screen size and the dual camera setup and thus will update G5 plus after updating the special edition G5S plus, if this happens, I'm pretty sure we won't be seeing Oreo till the end of September, maybe November.
This is just an assumption and I'm not saying that it's correct but I just hope it's not and Moto will release a patch note for G5 plus Oreo update soon.
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by the month of november all our warranties will be over and custom rom's bugs will probably be all fixed.. also treble is in a good development state, so we would not need support from motorola anymore.. i don't think it's worthed waiting that long..

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