New 10 Owner - what to do first? - HTC 10 Questions & Answers

Just got a 10 Factory Unlocked. I do need to root for Xprivacy and AdAway, etc. and of course, to make a nandroid. I suppose I could use ADB for such a thing, but TWRP surely does make life easier.
Since this is the first phone I've ever had that was already unlocked, I'm not quite sure where to start with rooting. I'm a little concerned because I'm seeing posts discussing how the radio might go wonky. Not ready to flash a custom ROM yet, I just want to dip my toe in the water for now.
I'd be grateful if someone could point the way.
BTW, the faceplate on my 10 is white, I was expecting black based on all the photos I've seen. Is this because I got the Factory Unlocked edition?
Thanks in advance!

is it on nougat or still marshmallow? i think nougat right? Xposed won't work on nougat anyway and you don't need to worry about the radio. if it's unlocked already and want to just root and you need to pass safetynet, get magisk v12. first you need to flash twrp and then flash the magisk zip to get root and be able to pass safetynet, be sure to not flash anything which modifies directly the system, otherwise no stock OTA and some apps won't work even if you use magisk hide

DeeZZ_NuuZZ said:
is it on nougat or still marshmallow? i think nougat right? Xposed won't work on nougat anyway and you don't need to worry about the radio, just unlock bootloader using htcdev.com
then flash a latest twrp and install a custom rom, but check first which main version is installed
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Haven't even turned the phone on yet - letting her charge to 100% before I do anything. I'm confused - why would I need to unlock the bootloader if I already have an unlocked phone? Or by 'Factory Unlocked' do they mean SIM unlocked, versus bootloader unlocked?

BillTheCat said:
Haven't even turned the phone on yet - letting her charge to 100% before I do anything. I'm confused - why would I need to unlock the bootloader if I already have an unlocked phone? Or by 'Factory Unlocked' do they mean SIM unlocked, versus bootloader unlocked?
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yea sorry, i've read way too fast and noticed it later, check my post now

DeeZZ_NuuZZ said:
if it's unlocked already and want to just root and you need to pass safetynet, get magisk v12. first you need to flash twrp and then flash the magisk zip to get root and be able to pass safetynet, be sure to not flash anything which modifies directly the system, otherwise no stock OTA and some apps won't work even if you use magisk hide
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Not familiar with 'safetynet', and yes - I do need Xposed therefore it will modify the /system partition so far as I understand.
In any event, it sounds like the starting point is TWRP for anything to do with root, correct?

BillTheCat said:
Not familiar with 'safetynet', and yes - I do need Xposed therefore it will modify the /system partition so far as I understand.
In any event, it sounds like the starting point is TWRP for anything to do with root, correct?
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yes you need twrp, without it no root... the thing is there is no Xposed for nougat and I think your phone came with android 7/ nougat right? if yes, forget Xposed. but you can use apps like adaway with magisk too.
So that'S why you should search for the Magisk thread and read everything about it, before you proceed

DeeZZ_NuuZZ said:
I think your phone came with android 7/ nougat right?
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No, the HTC 10 shipped with MM. I guess I'll have to fire her up and see where I'm at.
So, assuming that I'm on MM, then it's just TWRP, flash SuperSU from recovery, install Xposed and I'm off and running - nothing extra, correct?
How would I make a Nandroid of the current factory ROM (all partitions - not file based) using ADB just in case?

BillTheCat said:
No, the HTC 10 shipped with MM. I guess I'll have to fire her up and see where I'm at.
So, assuming that I'm on MM, then it's just TWRP, flash SuperSU from recovery, install Xposed and I'm off and running - nothing extra, correct?
How would I make a Nandroid of the current factory ROM (all partitions - not file based) using ADB just in case?
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yea if MM then it's that easy.
full stock nandroid can be done in twrp, there you can backup system, data, boot and recovery
also the system image, but don't know if you need that, but you can try to backup it too, be sure to have enough space

I got my unit one year ago, now I want root, I got nougat us unlocked and I want stock ROM, how can I do?
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symy said:
I got my unit one year ago, now I want root, I got nougat us unlocked and I want stock ROM, how can I do?
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flash magisk v12 then you have root and also can use android pay and other apps which needs passed safetynet
if you don't mind safetynet, you can also use systemless supersu

To the OP, surely factory unlocked indicates unlocked to all networks rather than bootloader unlocked ? Check this first to save some hassle. If the bootloader isn't unlocked yet, you could consider sunshine s off , it will cost you but on mm firmware you can s off and stay locked which can be an advantage. Worth checking bootloader status first though

DeeZZ_NuuZZ said:
flash magisk v12 then you have root and also can use android pay and other apps which needs passed safetynet
if you don't mind safetynet, you can also use systemless supersu
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Can you tell me the great advantages of doing root, I do not want to lose the updates via ota
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Confirmed - the 10 shipped with MM, so I'm in good shape. Flashing TWRP now. Thanks!

timbohobbs said:
To the OP, surely factory unlocked indicates unlocked to all networks rather than bootloader unlocked ? Check this first to save some hassle. If the bootloader isn't unlocked yet, you could consider sunshine s off , it will cost you but on mm firmware you can s off and stay locked which can be an advantage. Worth checking bootloader status first though
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Yeah, just crashed into that wall. Almost gave myself a soft brick.
So, sunshine it is. Did that with my M9 and it worked out great. Thanks.

BillTheCat said:
Confirmed - the 10 shipped with MM, so I'm in good shape. Flashing TWRP now. Thanks!
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What exactly do you need xposed for? It won't work once you updated to Nougat. And Nougat is much better tan Marshmallow at least as far as I'm concerned. All I need I've been able to find on custom ROMs and or by additional root Apps.
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BillTheCat said:
Yeah, just crashed into that wall. Almost gave myself a soft brick.
So, sunshine it is. Did that with my M9 and it worked out great. Thanks.
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Probably worth updating via ota after sunshine to nougat, not before. You can stay locked and s off then. After ota you can root as usual

timbohobbs said:
Probably worth updating via ota after sunshine to nougat, not before. You can stay locked and s off then. After ota you can root as usual
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Can't go Nougat until Xposed is up and running.
So far:
Unlocked bootloader and went S-off via Sunshine
Installed TWRP
Made the error of allowing modification before taking a backup - not sure if I'm hosed.
Flashed SuperSU SR3 following Chainfire's instructions to send command via ADB
Flashed Xposed
Next: TiBu and restoring apps.

5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
What exactly do you need xposed for? It won't work once you updated to Nougat. And Nougat is much better tan Marshmallow at least as far as I'm concerned. All I need I've been able to find on custom ROMs and or by additional root Apps.
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Xprivacy.

BillTheCat said:
Can't go Nougat until Xposed is up and running.
So far:
Unlocked bootloader and went S-off via Sunshine
Installed TWRP
Made the error of allowing modification before taking a backup - not sure if I'm hosed.
Flashed SuperSU SR3 following Chainfire's instructions to send command via ADB
Flashed Xposed
Next: TiBu and restoring apps.
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You won't ( probably ) be able to do further ota in the future with your modified backup as you're probably aware. But don't worry too much, it's likely the firmware you're after will be available elsewhere

timbohobbs said:
You won't ( probably ) be able to do further ota in the future with your modified backup as you're probably aware. But don't worry too much, it's likely the firmware you're after will be available elsewhere
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No big deal. I'm not ready for Nougat until Xposed is running. However, HTC has an RUU available already, so we're good to go.
http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-10/news/
And of course, if I get bored, there are any number of custom ROMs available. I was running Maximus on my M9, I'd probably go that route again.

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relock boot loader after rooting?

ok, this is driving me crazy. had every nexus except the 6, got the 5x. unlocked bootloader, ok. flash twrp. cool. install root files, great. set up android pay, denied due to unlocked boot loader. went to lock boot loader... wants to do a factory reset.... ok..... now it just boot loops in twrp formats cache, and phone gives errors about corrupt system, different system, blah blah. so right now im bootloader unlocked, rooted with twrp. how is everyone relocking the boot loader?
You have to be on stock recovery to relock the bootloader. You can hardbrick this phone trying to lock it with TWRP installed. Consider yourself lucky?
Android pay is not working because of root, not the unlocked bootloader. Start reading about systemless root
berndblb said:
You have to be on stock recovery to relock the bootloader. You can hardbrick this phone trying to lock it with TWRP installed. Consider yourself lucky?
Android pay is not working because of root, not the unlocked bootloader. Start reading about systemless root
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yes, i flashed the systemless root on my n5x ( i have a regular nexus 5, twrp, bootloader locked, and android pay works with systemless root) so i do now about this recent development. can it be flashed in stock recovery? i just feel like im missing something?
From the [GUIDE] Unlock/Root/Flash for Nexus 5X that you should have read before farting around with the phone:
Important: do not relock your bootloader unless your phone is fully stock. You must flash the factory images first in order to remove root and custom recovery (if you have them), if this precaution isn't taken you may end up with a brick. Please see section 11 of this guide for full instructions on how to return to stock.
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Use the guide I linked to to flash the stock images. Then use the guide again to root the phone with systemless root.
PiousInquisitor said:
From the [GUIDE] Unlock/Root/Flash for Nexus 5X that you should have read before farting around with the phone:
Use the guide I linked to to flash the stock images. Then use the guide again to root the phone with systemless root.
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thanks for the link, thats one of the first things i read when i started looking but it doesnt really talk about relocking the bootloader unless going stock. im just trying to keep my systemless root and have locked bootloader. sounds like i should try reflashing stock recov after rooting and then try to relock bootloader?
dwreck420 said:
thanks for the link, thats one of the first things i read when i started looking but it doesnt really talk about relocking the bootloader unless going stock. im just trying to keep my systemless root and have locked bootloader. sounds like i should try reflashing stock recov after rooting and then try to relock bootloader?
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It plainly says:
mportant: do not relock your bootloader unless your phone is fully stock. You must flash the factory images first in order to remove root and custom recovery (if you have them), if this precaution isn't taken you may end up with a brick. Please see section 11 of this guide for full instructions on how to return to stock.
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If you have rooted your phone, you are not fully stock. Therefor do not relock the bootloader.
dwreck420 said:
yes, i flashed the systemless root on my n5x ( i have a regular nexus 5, twrp, bootloader locked, and android pay works with systemless root) so i do now about this recent development. can it be flashed in stock recovery? i just feel like im missing something?
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The 5X is my first Nexus so bare with me. Why would you have TWRP installed with a locked bootloader on the OG Nexus 5? What is the benefit of that?
SlimSnoopOS said:
The 5X is my first Nexus so bare with me. Why would you have TWRP installed with a locked bootloader on the OG Nexus 5? What is the benefit of that?
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well there was an app "bootunlocker" which let you unlock it on the fly. also android pay requires a locked bootloader.
so i have locked bootloader, systemless root, and twrp on my OG nexus 5.
just cant seen to relock bootloader and somehow reroot again since NOW nexus 5x required device be WIPED when relocked
PiousInquisitor said:
It plainly says:
If you have rooted your phone, you are not fully stock. Therefor do not relock the bootloader.
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does android pay work for you with unlocked bootloaders and systemless root?
dwreck420 said:
well there was an app "bootunlocker" which let you unlock it on the fly. also android pay requires a locked bootloader.
so i have locked bootloader, systemless root, and twrp on my OG nexus 5.
just cant seen to relock bootloader and somehow reroot again since NOW nexus 5x required device be WIPED when relocked
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Oh, that sounds pretty cool actually.
I don't use Android Pay but I know you do not need a locked bootloader to get it working. Which version of SuperSU did you install? Cuz every time I see a 5X user with working Android Pay, they have systemless root and even a custom rom. I am pretty certain that I read that you just need to delete /SU/xbin_bind to get Android Pay working with systemless root.
Edit: I've seen it mentioned in the SuperSU thread I think, but it is explicitly mentioned in this Nexus 6P Android Pay thread
dwreck420 said:
does android pay work for you with unlocked bootloaders and systemless root?
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Yes. This is common knowledge.
Android Pay looks for changes to the system partition only. It doesn't give a rats ass if the kernel, recovery, or boot image are modified, nor does it give a flying **** if the bootloader is unlocked.
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PiousInquisitor said:
Yes. This is common knowledge.
Android Pay looks for changes to the system partition only. It doesn't give a rats ass if the kernel, recovery, or boot image are modified, nor does it give a flying **** if the bootloader is unlocked.
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thanks for the clarification.
dwreck420 said:
thanks for the clarification.
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No problem. Sorry if I came across a bit hostile. I may have been up too late last night.
Android Pay is also working on some ROMs. Cataclysm for one. PureNexus will be comparable next update too.
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Never mind
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Complete Newbie to HTC 10, Wondering about RUU, 7.0, and Root

Hi, I'm a long time Android enthusiast, owning, rooting and modding a Nexus 4, LG Optimus V, and Honor 5X. However, the HTC 10 is really confusing to me because of its new Nougat update.
I currently have a US Unlocked HTC 10 with a freshly unlocked bootloader, S-On. I was wondering if I should root it with TWRP Recovery, and install an RUU to keep root, or is that not how it works? I'm jut very confused as to how to keep root going into the Nougat update. Thanks
Thats not how it works.
When you use an RUU, it will not keep root. It will wipe your device full factory reset.
I dont really recommend the 7.0 update just yet as there is no TWRP for it.
Since you are S-ON, you wont be able to downgrade back to 6.0.
You CAN root 7.0 using Magisk if you need to.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/development/root-magisk-autoroot-magisk-phhs-t3507505
If Still you want to upgrade, then you should S-OFF FIRST.. so you can downgrade if you want. You can NOT S-OFF from 7.0 yet, and you can not downgrade without S-OFF, so it's a one way ticket if you don't S-OFF first. (for now.)
You cant really Keep root (AKAIK), you'll have to re-root after each update. Here is what I usually do (excluding the 7.0 update for now because there is no TWRP Yet)
1) Flash TWRP.
2) Backup System Image / Boot (Clean - before root).
3) Flash the latest SuperSU to root.
4) When there is a new OTA update, boot to TWRP, restore the Last Clean System Image / Boot images.
5) Flash Latest Stock Recovery.img. (You'll need to find it, or extract it from an OTA Zip)
6) Boot to Rom, Install OTA.
7) Repeat Steps 1-3
Check these links
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-how-to-ota-receive-corrupt-message-t3378187
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/development/recovery-twrp-touch-recovery-t3358139
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/stock-stock-collection-recovery-ruu-ota-t3359297
x51 said:
If Still you want to upgrade, then you should S-OFF FIRST.. so you can downgrade if you want. You cant S-OFF from 7.0 yet, and you cant downgrade, so it's a one way ticket for now.
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Is Sunshine still the only way to S-OFF? If so, is it still a paid option?
elguy said:
Is Sunshine still the only way to S-OFF? If so, is it still a paid option?
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As far as I know, Yes and Yes.
I was getting along fine without it, until I upgraded to 7.0 and wanted to go back... now I'm stuck.
x51 said:
Thats not how it works.
When you use an RUU, it will not keep root. It will wipe your device full factory reset.
I dont really recommend the 7.0 update just yet as there is no TWRP for it.
Since you are S-ON, you wont be able to downgrade back to 6.0.
You CAN root 7.0 using Magisk if you need to.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/development/root-magisk-autoroot-magisk-phhs-t3507505
If Still you want to upgrade, then you should S-OFF FIRST.. so you can downgrade if you want. You can NOT S-OFF from 7.0 yet, and you can not downgrade without S-OFF, so it's a one way ticket if you don't S-OFF first. (for now.)
You cant really Keep root (AKAIK), you'll have to re-root after each update. Here is what I usually do (excluding the 7.0 update for now because there is no TWRP Yet)
1) Flash TWRP.
2) Backup System Image / Boot (Clean - before root).
3) Flash the latest SuperSU to root.
4) When there is a new OTA update, boot to TWRP, restore the Last Clean System Image / Boot images.
5) Flash Latest Stock Recovery.img. (You'll need to find it, or extract it from an OTA Zip)
6) Boot to Rom, Install OTA.
7) Repeat Steps 1-3
Check these links
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-how-to-ota-receive-corrupt-message-t3378187
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/development/recovery-twrp-touch-recovery-t3358139
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/stock-stock-collection-recovery-ruu-ota-t3359297
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I see. Seems as it it'd be better to wait for a confirmed root / twrp method for 7.0 first for a guranated method. Thank you, some of these terms are new to me....
x51 said:
As far as I know, Yes and Yes.
I was getting along fine without it, until I upgraded to 7.0 and wanted to go back... now I'm stuck.
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Unlock bootloader, custom rom to 6.0. Then sunshine or contact me to s-off
ArtOfSnaila said:
I see. Seems as it it'd be better to wait for a confirmed root / twrp method for 7.0 first for a guranated method. Thank you, some of these terms are new to me....
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I think there are many of us that are in this situation, I will be waiting patiently for a fix to the TWRP issue with 7.0 and then will enjoy the ride...
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Yep, same here. The best option is to wait for Captain Throwback to get TWRP spruced up for Nougat. Flash Nougat then flash TWRP.
stifilz said:
Unlock bootloader, custom rom to 6.0. Then sunshine or contact me to s-off
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How would I custom Rom to 6.0 without TWRP?
x51 said:
How would I custom Rom to 6.0 without TWRP?
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Oh yeah, good point lol. Would need to flash an older boot combination I guess. Way to dangerous for most, this is why I s-off first and mess around after. I imagine TWRP won't be long anyway

From Marshmallow to Nougat - What to look for?

Hey guys,
i have a rooted HTC 10 (unlocked) still on android 6. Now from time to time it acts weird so i thought i should just update.
what do i need to look for? is there root and xposed for 7? (I just need root for adblocker)
I have xposed, so i will use its uninstall script. how do i proceed from there? just OTA?
thanks!
levibuko said:
Hey guys,
i have a rooted HTC 10 (unlocked) still on android 6. Now from time to time it acts weird so i thought i should just update.
what do i need to look for? is there root and xposed for 7? (I just need root for adblocker)
I have xposed, so i will use its uninstall script. how do i proceed from there? just OTA?
thanks!
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You can root 7. There is no xposed for 7.
To take the OTA, you need to have stock system partition and recovery. Since you're already rooted and using xposed, your system partition is likely modified (did you use Magisk?) and you won't be able to take the OTA. You'd have to restore a stock system and recovery, or the cleaner way is to run an ruu for your phone.
Tarima said:
You can root 7. There is no xposed for 7.
To take the OTA, you need to have stock system partition and recovery. Since you're already rooted and using xposed, your system partition is likely modified (did you use Magisk?) and you won't be able to take the OTA. You'd have to restore a stock system and recovery, or the cleaner way is to run an ruu for your phone.
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Thank you for your answer. What is RUU?
levibuko said:
Thank you for your answer. What is RUU?
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ROM Update Utility
levibuko said:
Thank you for your answer. What is RUU?
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As mentioned by Magnum it's basically a fully contained file that restores your phones partitions back to stock. You need one to match your phone software version, you can't use one that's older that what you already have installed and you can't use one made for a different phone variant/region. That's unless you're s-off which it doesn't sound like you are.
First, read up a bit more about what an ruu is. Then, check out this thread and find the appropriate ruu for your phone in this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/stock-stock-collection-recovery-ruu-ota-t3359297
Or, if you bought your phone directly from htc in the US, download the latest RUU from HTC's website.

Flash stock over rooted to get OTA

I wonder is it possible to flash stock unrooted OOS over rooted OOS in order to install small OTAs. After updates plan to root again. Does anyone know whether this is possible or not? And, any side effects could occur?
I search over internet and couldn't find any useful info about this.
Thanks in advance.
Technically you'll be updating your device by flashing the newest stock anyway. No need for OTAs. You can then re-root.
GTRanushka said:
I wonder is it possible to flash stock unrooted OOS over rooted OOS in order to install small OTAs. After updates plan to root again. Does anyone know whether this is possible or not? And, any side effects could occur?
I search over internet and couldn't find any useful info about this.
Thanks in advance.
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Yes, sounds doable
ABotelho23 said:
Technically you'll be updating your device by flashing the newest stock anyway. No need for OTAs. You can then re-root.
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Not what i meant. Let's say I'm on rooted OB18. But i want to update it to OB19. all i have is OB18 stock firmware. So, can i flash OB18 over rooted OB18 and then update it to OB19 (ota). Then re-root.
The reason I'm asking this is i have a very limited data internet connection. So i can save GBs if this is doable.
XDRdaniel said:
Yes, sounds doable
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Yeah. Well.. I'm gonna try this out myself. Thanks! :highfive:
GTRanushka said:
Not what i meant. Let's say I'm on rooted OB18. But i want to update it to OB19. all i have is OB18 stock firmware. So, can i flash OB18 over rooted OB18 and then update it to OB19 (ota). Then re-root.
The reason I'm asking this is i have a very limited data internet connection. So i can save GBs if this is doable.
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Plan to keep a copy of OB18 around? If so, then yea absolutely it should work. Root will either modify your system or your kernel depending on the method, which both get overwritten if you flash stock.
Issue you'll probably end up having in the future though is that if you always use OB18, when it comes time to install OB20, you'll be downgrading without a wipe, which I don't think is a great idea.
GTRanushka said:
I wonder is it possible to flash stock unrooted OOS over rooted OOS in order to install small OTAs. After updates plan to root again. Does anyone know whether this is possible or not? And, any side effects could occur?
I search over internet and couldn't find any useful info about this.
Thanks in advance.
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No you can't.
Because OTA will fail for "partition mismatching": the systemless root alters only but anyhow the /boot partition.
You must update with FOTA (Full OTAs), doesn't matter you're using stock or TWRP recovery.
The OxygenOS built-in updater should detects your system as modified and download only FOTAs.
Simone98RC said:
No you can't.
Because OTA will fail for "partition mismatching": the systemless root alters only but anyhow the /boot partition.
You must update with FOTA (Full OTAs), doesn't matter you're using stock or TWRP recovery.
The OxygenOS built-in updater should detects your system as modified and download only FOTAs.
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Let's say he has open beta 18, rooted and twrp installed, if he flashes ob18 again over it, this will get rid both of the root and twrp, resulting in an untouched system, therefore, ota after this will be possible. He can then flash back twrp and root the device
XDRdaniel said:
Let's say he has open beta 18, rooted and twrp installed, if he flashes ob18 again over it, this will get rid both of the root and twrp, resulting in an untouched system, therefore, ota after this will be possible. He can then flash back twrp and root the device
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But practically speaking, it's crazy to unroot system only for OTA.
It would be more reliable to download FOTAs on rooted system.
Then, if @GTRanushka is running Magisk (MagiskSU) as root method, it could be working even after firmware update.
Because of its systemless nature.
Simone98RC said:
But practically speaking, it's crazy to unroot system only for OTA.
It would be more reliable to download FOTAs on rooted system.
Then, if @GTRanushka is running Magisk (MagiskSU) as root method, it could be working even after firmware update.
Because of its systemless nature.
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This would be weird because I always had to flash magisk after a ota update..
GTRanushka said:
I wonder is it possible to flash stock unrooted OOS over rooted OOS in order to install small OTAs. After updates plan to root again. Does anyone know whether this is possible or not? And, any side effects could occur?
I search over internet and couldn't find any useful info about this.
Thanks in advance.
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In order to flash OTAS has to have stock rom but also recovery stock and bootloader blocked but not installed the OTAS otherwise it tells you that you have something modified and you have to download the complete rom. (That does not suit you)
ajnexus5 said:
In order to flash OTAS has to have stock rom but also recovery stock and bootloader blocked but not installed the OTAS otherwise it tells you that you have something modified and you have to download the complete rom. (That does not suit you)
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You don't need a locked bootloader for OTA just have to flash stock full ROM zip and stock recovery then you're good to go
Simone98RC said:
But practically speaking, it's crazy to unroot system only for OTA.
It would be more reliable to download FOTAs on rooted system.
Then, if @GTRanushka is running Magisk (MagiskSU) as root method, it could be working even after firmware update.
Because of its systemless nature.
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Why i try to unroot and do OTAs is the much less download size compared to FOTAs.
Renosh said:
You don't need a locked bootloader for OTA just have to flash stock full ROM zip and stock recovery then you're good to go
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I tried it with the bootloader open and I did not think that something is not right that it has to download complete the rom.:

SafetyNet FAILED after stock rom and relocked bootloader? (Cant use Google Pay)

I have a LG G4 since almost the release of it. I had it rooted and with an unlocked bootloader since now. I decided to use it as my daily though to pay with it using Google Pay. So I re-flashed the stock v29a zip provided by LG and did the "fastboot oem lock" command. The bootloader locked, the rom is fully stock now without any modification. Why Google pay still says that the phone is altered and after checking Safetynet with an app on play store, fails? Also On Play Store the phone appears Uncertified... What is the problem?
ntelas said:
I have a LG G4 since almost the release of it. I had it rooted and with an unlocked bootloader since now. I decided to use it as my daily though to pay with it using Google Pay. So I re-flashed the stock v29a zip provided by LG and did the "fastboot oem lock" command. The bootloader locked, the rom is fully stock now without any modification. Why Google pay still says that the phone is altered and after checking Safetynet with an app on play store, fails? Also On Play Store the phone appears Uncertified... What is the problem?
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Just an idea, take a look at your build.prop and see if anything looks off. Maybe you need to format some partitions before flashing the stock zip?
Cheers!
Thanks for the reply. I think the zip is flashing all the partitions.I checked for TWRP and did a factory reset after the flash to make sure it's as stock as it can get. Now for the build.prop I also think that it needs root to check and edit it right? If not what sould I look for?
ntelas said:
Thanks for the reply. I think the zip is flashing all the partitions.I checked for TWRP and did a factory reset after the flash to make sure it's as stock as it can get. Now for the build.prop I also think that it needs root to check and edit it right? If not what sould I look for?
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I think that certain partitions need to be formatted you might want to search about that. I think TWRP can access the build.prop but not sure. I suggested checking build.prop because it will show different models, builds and basically would be an easy way to see if you are truly back to stock.
Good luck!
Thanks! I would have to install TWRP again maybe ?
ntelas said:
Thanks! I would have to install TWRP again maybe
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Didi you Unroot before Flashing Stock?
Maybe some remants in Some Partitions are causing you trouble.
uweork said:
Didi you Unroot before Flashing Stock?
Maybe some remants in Some Partitions are causing you trouble.
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I flashed stock coming from a RR rom with Magisk. Believe me if I had locked bootloader with a rooted rom now I wouldn't have my phone alive
ntelas said:
I flashed stock coming from a RR rom with Magisk. Believe me if I had locked bootloader with a rooted rom now I wouldn't have my phone alive
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Then You didn´t read Properly.
I didn´t mean Root itself more Remnant parts of Root, that cause ur Saftynet fail.
on Samsung S2 once i thought so too, but banking app said no no no...
Only an Option
a user from this forum said that you need to take the line "ro.build.firgenprint=..." of the any MM/LP build.prop and insert it into the N build.prop (including reboot btw) and try again if google pay works for you...
I don't know if it works, I don't tried it, but you say us.

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