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Anyone know if they will be releasing an unlocked version for the US carriers? I would get the European version myself, as 3g isn't a big deal for me, but what gives me concern is the Wall charger doesn't include a US plug. Im sure this is a small deal considering i could proly just buy a standard HTC charger, but im just curious if they will be having an unlocked that will both include the US charger, and work on US 3g networks.
no word yet hua?
Why do you think the European model won't work on U.S. 3G networks?
European 3G I believe works on the 1900 MHz band (supported by the Touch Pro 2). U.S. 3G operates on the 850 MHz band (also supported by the Touch Pro 2). By technical standards, this should work fine in the U.S. on the 3G band.
As far as the charger goes, yes, that is a concern. But I don't doubt that somewhere in your house you've got a miniUSB charger lying around. If not, your local Wal-Mart/Target/Radio-Shack/Best Buy will have a million of them.
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European 3G I believe works on the 1900 MHz band (supported by the Touch Pro 2). U.S. 3G operates on the 850 MHz band (also supported by the Touch Pro 2). By technical standards, this should work fine in the U.S. on the 3G band.
As far as the charger goes, yes, that is a concern. But I don't doubt that somewhere in your house you've got a miniUSB charger lying around. If not, your local Wal-Mart/Target/Radio-Shack/Best Buy will have a million of them.
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HTC.com sez...
Network:
HSPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
Up to 2 Mbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
Europe/Asia: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
(Band frequency, HSPA availability, and data speed are operator dependent.) BUT...
3G networks are running the 850Mhz in the U.S. We already knew that the HTC Touch Pro2 would sport 3G frequency support in the 900Mhz and 2100Mhz WCDMA bands, but the 850Mhz WCDMA band isn't yet available.
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European 3G I believe works on the 1900 MHz band (supported by the Touch Pro 2). U.S. 3G operates on the 850 MHz band (also supported by the Touch Pro 2). By technical standards, this should work fine in the U.S. on the 3G band.
As far as the charger goes, yes, that is a concern. But I don't doubt that somewhere in your house you've got a miniUSB charger lying around. If not, your local Wal-Mart/Target/Radio-Shack/Best Buy will have a million of them.
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I have been on a number of blogs for the TP2 and they are seem to be in agreement that the European TP2 will only work over the EDGE network in US...
Personally, I am currently an iPhone user, but my wife is driving me crazy waiting for this US version!
JAlbridge said:
HTC.com sez...
Network:
HSPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
Up to 2 Mbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
Europe/Asia: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
(Band frequency, HSPA availability, and data speed are operator dependent.) BUT...
3G networks are running the 850Mhz in the U.S. We already knew that the HTC Touch Pro2 would sport 3G frequency support in the 900Mhz and 2100Mhz WCDMA bands, but the 850Mhz WCDMA band isn't yet available.
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Here is a good story on MSNBC.com on the various 3G standards. It is dated last Sept. but it is still good.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26511322/
uk/europe model will only work on edge in US. devicewire have done a detailed review on a europe model and could only get edge. to get 3g will need to wait for official model for that region.
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European 3G I believe works on the 1900 MHz band (supported by the Touch Pro 2). U.S. 3G operates on the 850 MHz band (also supported by the Touch Pro 2). By technical standards, this should work fine in the U.S. on the 3G band.
As far as the charger goes, yes, that is a concern. But I don't doubt that somewhere in your house you've got a miniUSB charger lying around. If not, your local Wal-Mart/Target/Radio-Shack/Best Buy will have a million of them.
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Actually you have it awry. European 3G runs on 2100mhz not 1900. U.S 3G runs on 850/1900mhz.
If you go to HTC's site, the TP2 Euro model will do GSM/GPRS/EDGE on 1900mhz. SO if O.P imports a Euro version, he could use it on EDGE or he could just wait for the AT&T version. T-mobile USA's 3G runs on 1700mhz though.
T-mobile USA's 3G requires both 1700mhz and 2100mhz. Suppose to be hear around July 22nd...
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As far as the charger goes, yes, that is a concern. But I don't doubt that somewhere in your house you've got a miniUSB charger lying around. If not, your local Wal-Mart/Target/Radio-Shack/Best Buy will have a million of them.
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Standard mini usb cables, yes and i also am aware i can also just charge the thing using the included USB cable. What im asking about is the WALL charger. If HTC uses thier standard USB-mini cable that is on a good chunk of their devices, including the HD/ Tilt/Diamond ect.. im sure finding a US charger wont be that hard.
Also, i was asking about an Unlocked US version, i do not intend to get one though the carrier as i dont want a modified version that they lock down. Nor do i care to wait till the fall when AT&T gets off their duffs to finally release it.
In any event, im just keeping my ear open and seeing what the grapevine heard about it.
Sorry guys. My bad.
I was confusing the specifications thinking that HTC would at least be smart enough to include full support for all markets. I was reading the Quad-Band GSM as support for HSPA/3G bands. I was totally bypassing the HSPA/WCDMA dual-band specification.
Chalk it up to a mix of wishful thinking and childish excitement. That does, however, kick the crap out of my week. Only HTC can bring me down this hard.
Well, I guess ATT got approved for theirs. Now the only question remains is, will their be an unlocked US version that supports 3g? or will we have to get the European version?
I'm in Taiwan for Computex and am so tempted to buy a touch pro 2 here. I would wait for the AT&T version but after seeing they changed the keyboard I want the HTC model. Only reason I haven't picked one up yet is because it only gets edge in the US on AT&T.
Does anyone know if the hardware cannot physically work on at&t's 3g bands or do we just have to wait for the at&t version to come out so the radio can be copied over or something. Thanks!
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I'm in Taiwan for Computex and am so tempted to buy a touch pro 2 here. I would wait for the AT&T version but after seeing they changed the keyboard I want the HTC model. Only reason I haven't picked one up yet is because it only gets edge in the US on AT&T.
Does anyone know if the hardware cannot physically work on at&t's 3g bands or do we just have to wait for the at&t version to come out so the radio can be copied over or something. Thanks!
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The hardware physically cannot handle it. The Euro/Asian model only supports 3G on the European and Asian bands which are completely different frequencies from the ones used in the U.S. It's definitely not just a matter of software.
And I think we all need to be clear that no one has any idea what the AT&T keyboard will actually look like. The promotional material we have all seen and discussed ad nauseum is a slap-together of the HTC mockup with AT&T's promotional verbage. Even the promotional bullet points list that the "HTC Fortress" has a 5 row keyboard while the mockup picture shows a 4 row keyboard. That picture, at this point, means pretty much nothing at all.
I see, Ill hold off then. Its kinda hard to justify ~$800 on a phone here anyways that doesn't have a warranty in the states. Thanks for the help!
Will the US Unlocked Version have the secondary VGA camera for video conferencing like the European one does?
What is the advantage of getting a carrier specific phone (AT&T or T-Mobile) as opposed to a US Unlocked phone outside of price?
I'm currently with Sprint and want to switch to a GSM provider.
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Will the US Unlocked Version have the secondary VGA camera for video conferencing like the European one does?
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no, the us carriers don't support that feature => no front facing camera.
sad but true.
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What is the advantage of getting a carrier specific phone (AT&T or T-Mobile) as opposed to a US Unlocked phone outside of price?
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the carrier phones usually come with some sort of branding (software: e.g. sprint tv application / hardware: different battery cover, different keyboard layout and so on)
This can either be an advantage or a disadvantage...
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What is the advantage of getting a carrier specific phone (AT&T or T-Mobile) as opposed to a US Unlocked phone outside of price?
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Having 3G capabilities vs. Edge only!
iodaed said:
no, the us carriers don't support that feature => no front facing camera.
sad but true.
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galaxys said:
Having 3G capabilities vs. Edge only!
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So basically what I was hoping for in terms of a 3G phone with a front facing camera won't happen this round.
Well, it's just as the title of this thread says... I have a Tmobile's G2 (A.K.A. HTC Vision), which its 3g default bands are under 1700 / 2100. Here on my country, all the providers have their 3g services on 900 / 2100.... soo... Is it possible to Flash T-mobile G2's Radio, an set it to work on 3g 900/2100 mhz, so I can use the phone on 3G, instead of that annoying and extremely slow EDGE??
Or, is there a Custom ROM that has these settings on it? (I mean, a rom that automatically turns the 3g band to 900 instead of 1700)
Thanx.
No you can't, the radio bands are set in hardware (e.g. the physical antennae in the phone), not just in the radio software.
Why would you need to, the phone would use the 2100 band for it's 3G in your country? I took mine to Russia and it worked fine.
I don't think it's that simple. I only get edge on my T-mobile G2 using the Rogers network.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA app.
Rogers doesnt use 1700 or 2100 so that is to be expected. The original posters country has a 2100 3G, I would suspect he just isn't in a coverage area.
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Why would you need to, the phone would use the 2100 band for it's 3G in your country? I took mine to Russia and it worked fine.
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I don't think it works like that, I think it needs both bands to work. If it was that simple then surely they wouldn't bother making different phones for different markets (e.g. T-Mobile US vs Europe/Asia)
That may be...I'm only speaking of my experience in Russia, they have 2100 only 3G and mine worked without the second band.
Just to add, T-Mobile US use the 1700 MHz band for the uplink, and 2100 MHz for the downlink. So presumably the phones (i.e. G2, as opposed to the Desire Z) are physically setup like that too.
Oh I thought Rogers uses 2100. Either way, no worky.... sad.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA app.
Ah, I think I'm following you, because Russia exclusively uses 2100 for up and down my phone worked, but since his county has a seperate uplink and a downlink band it won't?
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Ah, I think I'm following you, because Russia exclusively uses 2100 for up and down my phone worked, but since his county has a seperate uplink and a downlink band it won't?
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Yeah I think that's it. I don't know *that* much about this myself, just picked up on a few discussions about the G2/DZ on here over time.
Have a look at this - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
I think the "problem" is that the G2 uses exclusively "Band IV" for 3G (i.e. 1700/2100 split), but somewhere like the OP's Dominican Republic uses Band VIII (900).
What the OP needs is a Desire Z, which operates on Band I (2100) and Band VIII (900).
Russia appears to use Band I (2100) as well. Maybe a G2 can partially work there then ?
Rogers uses something else, Band II (1900) and Band V (850).
As I say, I'm don't know that much about this myself, so if anyone else can help clarify/confirm/deny, then that'd be great.
Much appreciated.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA app.
Via Google, I dug up another interesting piece of info.
Although it's not on HTC's official spec list on their site, on T-Mobile's support pages it says that the G2 does Band I as well. Which would explain how it would have worked in Russia. That's not going to help the OP's problem though.
http://support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm24233.xml?&A2L.SERVICE=FeatureSummary
Wow mega confusing, but you helped clear it up, thanks!!
Mine worked very well in Moscow, I was pleasantly suprised, it was kind of a bonus to be able to get on the web, I wasn't expecting much.
I don't understand why the manufactures don't provide phones with penta-band 3G support like the Nokia N8. Maximize profit when producing 2-3 same phones with different frequencies maybe? I mean quad-band GSM has been supported for pretty much all of the current phones, why not 3G bands as well?
Has anyone tried this option?
bring up the dial pad and dial
*#*#info#*#* (aka *#*#4636#*#*)
press "Phone Info"
you'll get the screen with the imei, phone no, network and a button that says "Run Ping Test" at the top
press your "menu" button
when the menu pops up, it'll have 6 options, select radio band, view sim address book, view fixed dialling numbers, view service dialling numbers, get PDP list, and More.
Choose the first one "Select Radio Band" then select the appropriate band.
Not sure if it helps in this situation, but I found it in a thread about gaining 3G in Europe on the N1
hey bro.. I read from one topic in TMo's official G2 forum that the G2 will work on a country with only a UMTS band of 2100 both for up and down (the answer is from TMo employee, an engineer)... hope you'll be enlightened. I bought an unlocked G2 and I researched extensively before purchase. Im from the Philippines which only supports the 2100 band for 3G. I Know and Im 100% positive that the phone will support the 3G band here in my country. cant wait for my G2 (arriving tomorrow)
btw... coverage is vital. if the 3G signal is weak or non-existent in your area, you'll be switched to edge for data on your phone (naturally).. good luck
sorry.. cant post the link. would've loved to have posted it.
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hey bro.. I read from one topic in TMo's official G2 forum that the G2 will work on a country with only a UMTS band of 2100 both for up and down (the answer is from TMo employee, an engineer)... hope you'll be enlightened. I bought an unlocked G2 and I researched extensively before purchase. Im from the Philippines which only supports the 2100 band for 3G. I Know and Im 100% positive that the phone will support the 3G band here in my country. cant wait for my G2 (arriving tomorrow)
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That's the Band I thing that I was talking about, that T-Mo shows on their spec sheets (but HTC doesn't seem to list, for some reason).
I think the G2 will do 3G if any one of the two bands are supported by the country. Correct me if Im wrong
juanito05 said:
hey bro.. I read from one topic in TMo's official G2 forum that the G2 will work on a country with only a UMTS band of 2100 both for up and down (the answer is from TMo employee, an engineer)... hope you'll be enlightened. I bought an unlocked G2 and I researched extensively before purchase. Im from the Philippines which only supports the 2100 band for 3G. I Know and Im 100% positive that the phone will support the 3G band here in my country. cant wait for my G2 (arriving tomorrow)
btw... coverage is vital. if the 3G signal is weak or non-existent in your area, you'll be switched to edge for data on your phone (naturally).. good luck
sorry.. cant post the link. would've loved to have posted it.
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There is nowhere in the world that uses 2100 in both directions. Band 1 is 1900 UP, 2100 DOWN.
In all cases, your phone must be able to upload on the frequencies that the towers listen on, and download on the frequencies that the towers transmit on.
I.e., north america vision transmits on 1700 or 1900, receives on 2100.
Hello people of Xda[emoji1]
I got my 8.4 two days ago, but it seems i can't uae LTE bands. My cell have 5 bars while the tab is stuck with H+. I use twin sim-card so i should be able to get atleast some bars right? Non rooted, all stock.
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Hello people of Xda[emoji1]
I got my 8.4 two days ago, but it seems i can't uae LTE bands. My cell have 5 bars while the tab is stuck with H+. I use twin sim-card so i should be able to get atleast some bars right? Non rooted, all stock.
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In the US?
Not compatible with the US Bands of any GSM Carrier for 4g LTE Yet, At&T is rumoured to get 1800MHz LTE band but it is not confirmed, and won't happen right away since we're speaking about implementing different frequencies which might mean different hardware and towers.
In France, LTE is working great on my SM-T805.
Sorry, forgot to mention, live in Norway and we do have the 2600MHz band available.
According to spec, tab s should support all: Hexa-Band 800, 850, 900, 1800, 2100, 2600 MHz
Samsung France told me it should work all over the world.
But your provider can or cannot activate LTE for your device.
I know some providers not always enable LTE' you must contact them...
My provider had to restart some of their services to make it work..
I am not getting 4G LTE. It is staying on H (hspa). I have the one plus one and get LTE.
The info online says this phone should have all of the bands required.
Any ideas.
Thank you
This is the 4gb ram 64gb ROM version
jross3r said:
I am not getting 4G LTE. It is staying on H (hspa). I have the one plus one and get LTE.
The info online says this phone should have all of the bands required.
Any ideas.
Thank you
This is the 4gb ram 64gb ROM version
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Check Settings - Mobile Network settings - Preferred Network Type and set it to LTE if you have this option and is not already set.
But I doubt that this is your problem. You bought the Taiwanese phone, didn't you? While OnePlus supports all ATT LTE bands (17, 4, 2), the Taiwanese Zenfone 2 doesn't support band 17 (nor ww model), which is otherwise typical for less inhabited aeries in the USA, but it seems that is widely used by ATT. Try the phone in the downtown or another city and you'll probably catch the LTE on other frequencies.
Yes I purchased it from Taiwan but all of the sites show so many bands for this phone. Asus does a terrible job with their model numbers. There are so many different versions with the same model number. There is a 4 g setting not lte and that is selected. I did pick up 4g while driving through part of the city.
Is there going to be a US model?
Thank you
Yes. There is a US model and its supposed to be released in the next month or so. The link below, click on specs, shows the LTE bands for each region. Clearly shows the Taiwanese model not having the 17 band.
http://www.asus.com/Phones/ZenFone_2_ZE551ML
That stinks. I took that page as it will work in all of these markets. Oh well
Thanks
jross3r said:
I am not getting 4G LTE. It is staying on H (hspa). I have the one plus one and get LTE.
The info online says this phone should have all of the bands required.
Any ideas.
Thank you
This is the 4gb ram 64gb ROM version
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Where in US are you?
There are some areas in the US that are only on LTE band 17. I suspect that's OP's issue.
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There are some areas in the US that are only on LTE band 17. I suspect that's OP's issue.
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I looked at it and TW, WW and US all have 1700 bands if that's what you are referring to. If not can you shed some light?
lordpipa said:
I looked at it and TW, WW and US all have 1700 bands if that's what you are referring to. If not can you shed some light?
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The topic is about bands not frequencies. There is nothing such as 1700 LTE band. Actually both USA and TW phones work on approximate LTE 700 MHz but bands are different because uplink and downlink are different. So TW model works on band 28 and US one on 17.
piskr said:
The topic is about bands not frequencies. There is nothing such as 1700 LTE band. Actually both USA and TW phones work on approximate LTE 700 MHz but bands are different because uplink and downlink are different. So TW model works on band 28 and US one on 17.
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I see now. Tnx for the quick response. Hopefully I'm not outta luck when the phone arrives tomorrow from TW. Do you think that flashing later on a radio or baseband will solve this issue?
It's not that simple. Luckily Intel chip supports all LTE bands. But they must be activated in kernel too. Maybe someone will find the method to activate the missed ones. Otherwise you are not so bad. With TW phone you are short of only one LTE band of four major in the USA, Europeans missed 2 of 3.
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It's not that simple. Luckily Intel chip supports all LTE bands. But they must be activated in kernel too. Maybe someone will find the method to activate the missed ones. Otherwise you are not so bad. With TW phone you are short of only one LTE band of four major in the USA, Europeans missed 2 of 3.
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Thanks again for that. I see a bright future for this. Appreciate all this info. And definitely will see u around.
CT and work in long island NY. I hit 4g LTE on my way to work but most of the time have hsta+ which is not terrible.
I'm stuck with NO data on my Zenfone 2 with T-Mobile.
Bl00dRunzC0ld said:
I'm stuck with NO data on my Zenfone 2 with T-Mobile.
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Check your APN settings.
Should be
fast.t-mobile.com
make sure the dash is in there.
alose said:
Check your APN settings.
Should be
fast.t-mobile.com
make sure the dash is in there.
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Thanks that worked. I've always used fast.tmobile.com for my connection and never had issues until today. Now I'm happy and on 4g.
lordpipa said:
I see now. Tnx for the quick response. Hopefully I'm not outta luck when the phone arrives tomorrow from TW. Do you think that flashing later on a radio or baseband will solve this issue?
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Frequency wise is matches everything AT&T needs, i just picked up my 4g/64gb TW model, i'll be playing with apn's to see if i can get lte to pop. Only getting H+ so far.
Correction, shipped with WW firmware, no 700mhz for us.
More - As posted above, this Taiwanese version is missing the LTE band 17. And there are some areas that this may be the only band available, so you will not have LTE in those situations.
Thanks so much.... I was having a heck of time here with my Zenfone 2 in Tucson AZ on T-mobile.... I was stuck on 2G... but updating the APN to fast.t-mobile.com and 2 reboots seems to have done the trick. So glad I don't have to EBAY this! THANKS AGAIN.... Loving this thing so far!
Well ****! This is where I am stuck win H+ on ATT.
No way around this huh unless someone does a new rom? Or is it hardwired?
Is it possible? I'm with MetroPCS and get about 80% of their frequencies but I'm short a few bands. Anyone on the same boat as me?
someeh said:
Is it possible? I'm with MetroPCS and get about 80% of their frequencies but I'm short a few bands. Anyone on the same boat as me?
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I'm with T-Mobile and the phone works great with no band issues-even better than my S7 edge Tmo.
Mr. Clown said:
I'm with T-Mobile and the phone works great with no band issues-even better than my S7 edge Tmo.
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I know MetroPCS uses their network. Have you done the frequency check to see if you're getting all their bands, for t mobile I mean? I have attached the bands that the mate supports on Metro but would like to enable the ones that aren't.
someeh said:
I know MetroPCS uses their network. Have you done the frequency check to see if you're getting all their bands, for t mobile I mean? I have attached the bands that the mate supports on Metro but would like to enable the ones that aren't.
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I don't think the Mate phone (or any honor 7x version) have the hardware capabilities for band 66 or 71. If the phone was exclusively for T-Mobile, I bet Huawei probably equipped at least their flagships with them. Below you can see all the supported bands from all the Honor 7x versions.
https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_honor_7x-8880.php#l24
For me, even if the phone had either band 66 or 71 dunno if T-Mobile have deployed these frequencies where I live. I either get band 4 or 12 and is incredible fast (100 Mbps download).
ugh i totally want to know how to unlock all those bands
This phone becomes useless when you travel to Europe especially with LTE as major bands used in Europe aren't supported on US models.
this is very frustrating.