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An Unlocking question (not the annoying typical one)

Hello All. I'm getting my 620 from t-mobile in like 2 days, and I had a quick question.
I know you can get it SIM/CID unlocked from that imei site that costs $40.
I know I can get the phone unlocked from T-mobile by calling them (been with them for 3 years)
Here's my question: Is the type of unlocking that I can get done from T-mobile only the SIM unlock, or does it do the CID unlock too?
If it's only the SIM unlock, does that imei unlock site have a discounted price for only CID unlocking (i searched around everywhere on the site and couldn't find anything on it)? If not, does anyone know any other site where i can get the phone CID unlocked for cheaper than $40.
Thanks in advance
Drew

CID or SIM Unlock
T-Mobile only provides a SIM unlock as far as I am aware. You will need to use imeicheck.co.uk to CID unlock. I have used them twice before, and it works well. However, I am with you - $40 is steep, and my Dash works with T-Mobile's own rom, so I am reluctant to spend the cash. I will be asking them if they would provide a cheaper service, and I am sure they would get loads more business, if thwy would. Let us know if you do ask also....

I sent them a email asking them if they provided a cheaper service since my Dash will only need the CID unlock.
They replied back saying it's all from one program so they could not provide it cheaper.
looks like I got the shaft from them, rofl.

we believe that if you put on the old bootloader you don't need to cid unlock. Try that.

indiekiduk said:
we believe that if you put on the old bootloader you don't need to cid unlock. Try that.
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if you are using a "dash" you will need to CID unlock and flash an old bootloader before you are able to flash another rom

[Q] simple sim-unlock question

hello all,
although i read some topics i couldn't find the answer that's why i need to ask this to all. my friend bought htc desire but without sim-unlock, he said it didn't work although he rooted it. so is there a way for sim-unlock for rooted phones. if yes, i'm going to upgrade my phone from "hero" to "desire"
at least can anyone give me a link for this?

Rooting a phone doesnt give you sim-unlock.
If you want your phone to be sim-unlocked you will either have to buy it like that or obtain the unlock code from your carrier or obtain one online.
I know over at the DHD forum there is a radio s-off tool that also is able to give you sim-unlock but as far as i am aware the same procedure isnt possible for the desire yet.

RaymondErasmus said:
Rooting a phone doesnt give you sim-unlock.
If you want your phone to be sim-unlocked you will either have to buy it like that or obtain the unlock code from your carrier or obtain one online.
I know over at the DHD forum there is a radio s-off tool that also is able to give you sim-unlock but as far as i am aware the same procedure isnt possible for the desire yet.
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oh thank you this information is enough for me...i really apprecaiate for your answer

ayk33 said:
oh thank you this information is enough for me...i really apprecaiate for your answer
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Why must the phone be sim-unlocked in order for you to upgrade? Its easy enough to obtain the unlock code from your carrier, even if the ask a small fee ... just phone them and say you are going on a business trip overseas and your phone needs to be sim-unlocked!
And if you are lucky you might even get a sim-unlocked phone from your carrier, depends what your carriers policy is regarding branding etc.
If you want a 'fool-proof' plan to get a unlocked phone just buy online.
You shouldnt let a carriers foolishness of branding and sim-locking their phone prevent you from having a new phone!

RaymondErasmus said:
Why must the phone be sim-unlocked in order for you to upgrade? Its easy enough to obtain the unlock code from your carrier, even if the ask a small fee ... just phone them and say you are going on a business trip overseas and your phone needs to be sim-unlocked!
And if you are lucky you might even get a sim-unlocked phone from your carrier, depends what your carriers policy is regarding branding etc.
If you want a 'fool-proof' plan to get a unlocked phone just buy online.
You shouldnt let a carriers foolishness of branding and sim-locking their phone prevent you from having a new phone!
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THE BIGGEST "THANKS" TO YOU you made me wake up with this idea...thank you, i called my carrier and they told me same as you did. so time to upgrade my dearest hero to DESIRE
really thank you

[Q] Open to all networks?

Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question - if I follow all the steps to root my One X, does this mean it is open to all networks? I remember rooting my Desire, and installing a custom ROM, but I had to run another tool before I sold it on to someone on a different network...

GuitarDemon said:
Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question - if I follow all the steps to root my One X, does this mean it is open to all networks? I remember rooting my Desire, and installing a custom ROM, but I had to run another tool before I sold it on to someone on a different network...
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Nope. Rooting doesn't remove the SIM/network lock.

Thank you for the reply Tiersten. Is there a way of removing the SIM/network lock? There are a few websites which want to charge in the region of £20 for an "unlock code". The phone I have is O2 branded, but I want to use my Orange SIM. Do I have to pay for a code?

HTC are offering unlock for a few quid, there's a thread in here probably a few pages back.

If I follow the procedure from XDA TV, unlocking the bootloader through HTCDEV, install CWM recovery, unlock and root stock rom from the XDA thread, flash the Leedroid Super SU, then (finally) the Leedroid ROM - has this removed any SIM lock and/or branding?

GuitarDemon said:
If I follow the procedure from XDA TV, unlocking the bootloader through HTCDEV, install CWM recovery, unlock and root stock rom from the XDA thread, flash the Leedroid Super SU, then (finally) the Leedroid ROM - has this removed any SIM lock and/or branding?
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No unless there is a tool in the dev section that specifically design to unlock the sim lock. Root and flashing custom rom does not remove the lock on O2. If you bought the One X 2nd hand then either get the seller to go to O2 and get it unlocked for you as it is still linked to his contract or you will need a 3rd Party to do it.

vis-tec said:
HTC are offering unlock for a few quid, there's a thread in here probably a few pages back.
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Its not HTC. Its somebody on eBay for £1.44. Looks like it is legitimate though as quite a lot of people have said it worked for them.

I can confirm its legit, got it unlocked within 20 mins yesterday. You fill in the form at the bottom of the description.
BTW if you're an o2 pay monthly customer o2 unlock it for free

if you pay over $600 for the phone, then there is no reason why it should cost money to unlock it. now, if you bought it cheap with a plan through a carrier, then i can see why they would charge you. i wouldn't tolerate that nonsense. i paid 619.99 and if my ATT sim doesn't work, they are going to make it work if they want to keep me in contract. sometimes, all you have to do is get mad at the manager and make a scene. ;p

Thanks everyone for the help. I got in touch with O2, and as the phone was supplied with a business bundle, they unlocked the phone free of charge. I was provided with the phone by my company, but as they don't allow personal use of the company phone, I wanted to use my personal Orange plan out of company hours. O2, by the way, were very helpful!

brent8577 said:
if you pay over $600 for the phone, then there is no reason why it should cost money to unlock it. now, if you bought it cheap with a plan through a carrier, then i can see why they would charge you. i wouldn't tolerate that nonsense. i paid 619.99 and if my ATT sim doesn't work, they are going to make it work if they want to keep me in contract. sometimes, all you have to do is get mad at the manager and make a scene. ;p
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If you've not got it from a carrier then it'll be SIM-free anyway so will work with any SIM in the first place

Unlock Htc One m8 - Without all techincal stuff

Hi Fellow Members,
Forgive Me I donot Understand Any technical Android words like Bootloader, S-OFF, Root Etc
In Short I am a Prospective ANDROID NOOB!!!
Would appreciate your help in the following matter.
I would like to buy a HTC ONE M8 from the US.
The only deals I can get within my price range are BAD ESN Sprint and Verizon Phones.
I Intend to use the phone on GSM Networks in the United Kingdom.
Can you please answer the following questions
1) It is my understanding that when you insert a sim in a cdma phone (Sprint or Verizon) It will always ask for an unlock code?
2) Cant I just buy an unlock code off the internet without having the need to Boot,Rom,S-Off? and just unlock the phone to all GSM Networds Throughout the world. (Except US)?
3) Did any just try the unlock code? Did it work for anyone here With a BAD ESN? I dont mind spending a few dollars to get the phone unlocked.
4) Once unlocked through unlock code. Will it remain unlocked even if I Change Sims?
Please bare in mind The phone is for Use outside the US.
Can you fellows Please guide me regarding the same.
Thank you very much.

sweetpoison said:
Hi Fellow Members,
Forgive Me I donot Understand Any technical Android words like Bootloader, S-OFF, Root Etc
In Short I am a Prospective ANDROID NOOB!!!
Would appreciate your help in the following matter.
I would like to buy a HTC ONE M8 from the US.
The only deals I can get within my price range are BAD ESN Sprint and Verizon Phones.
I Intend to use the phone on GSM Networks in the United Kingdom.
Can you please answer the following questions
1) It is my understanding that when you insert a sim in a cdma phone (Sprint or Verizon) It will always ask for an unlock code?
2) Cant I just buy an unlock code off the internet without having the need to Boot,Rom,S-Off? and just unlock the phone to all GSM Networds Throughout the world. (Except US)?
3) Did any just try the unlock code? Did it work for anyone here With a BAD ESN? I dont mind spending a few dollars to get the phone unlocked.
4) Once unlocked through unlock code. Will it remain unlocked even if I Change Sims?
Please bare in mind The phone is for Use outside the US.
Can you fellows Please guide me regarding the same.
Thank you very much.
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Just put more money in it and buy it either in the UK or in mainland Europe...

sweetpoison said:
Hi Fellow Members,
Forgive Me I donot Understand Any technical Android words like Bootloader, S-OFF, Root Etc
In Short I am a Prospective ANDROID NOOB!!!
Would appreciate your help in the following matter.
I would like to buy a HTC ONE M8 from the US.
The only deals I can get within my price range are BAD ESN Sprint and Verizon Phones.
I Intend to use the phone on GSM Networks in the United Kingdom.
Can you please answer the following questions
1) It is my understanding that when you insert a sim in a cdma phone (Sprint or Verizon) It will always ask for an unlock code?
2) Cant I just buy an unlock code off the internet without having the need to Boot,Rom,S-Off? and just unlock the phone to all GSM Networds Throughout the world. (Except US)?
3) Did any just try the unlock code? Did it work for anyone here With a BAD ESN? I dont mind spending a few dollars to get the phone unlocked.
4) Once unlocked through unlock code. Will it remain unlocked even if I Change Sims?
Please bare in mind The phone is for Use outside the US.
Can you fellows Please guide me regarding the same.
Thank you very much.
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1) It is my understanding that when you insert a sim in a cdma phone (Sprint or Verizon) It will always ask for an unlock code?
Sprint does not prompt for an unlock code (100% sure about that). As far as i know, Verizon is already sim unlocked for non US carriers.
2) Cant I just buy an unlock code off the internet without having the need to Boot,Rom,S-Off? and just unlock the phone to all GSM Networds Throughout the world. (Except US)?
No, it will not work. There is no unlock code prompt for SPRINT.
3) Did any just try the unlock code? Did it work for anyone here With a BAD ESN? I dont mind spending a few dollars to get the phone unlocked.
I have tried to purchase a SPRINT unlock code, i got the unlock code, and then i was refunded because there is no way you can enter that unlock code.
4) Once unlocked through unlock code. Will it remain unlocked even if I Change Sims?
As stated above.
The best approach should be to buy an unlocked device. However one other approach should be to buy a Verizon/Sprint phone, and then buy $25 sunshine S-OFF. After that you can SIM unlock using the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708567
I did it on a Sprint M8, however it had a clean ESN.

blackice666 said:
1) It is my understanding that when you insert a sim in a cdma phone (Sprint or Verizon) It will always ask for an unlock code?
Sprint does not prompt for an unlock code (100% sure about that). As far as i know, Verizon is already sim unlocked for non US carriers.
2) Cant I just buy an unlock code off the internet without having the need to Boot,Rom,S-Off? and just unlock the phone to all GSM Networds Throughout the world. (Except US)?
No, it will not work. There is no unlock code prompt for SPRINT.
3) Did any just try the unlock code? Did it work for anyone here With a BAD ESN? I dont mind spending a few dollars to get the phone unlocked.
I have tried to purchase a SPRINT unlock code, i got the unlock code, and then i was refunded because there is no way you can enter that unlock code.
4) Once unlocked through unlock code. Will it remain unlocked even if I Change Sims?
As stated above.
The best approach should be to buy an unlocked device. However one other approach should be to buy a Verizon/Sprint phone, and then buy $25 sunshine S-OFF. After that you can SIM unlock using the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708567
I did it on a Sprint M8, however it had a clean ESN.
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Thanks mate.

I'd be very cautious if I were you. The radio bands for the Sprint and Verizon M8s are different (see here). Whilst they both look ok to me for 3G usage, you may find that one or the other (or both) might never work on UK 4G networks.
Regards,
Dave

Don't cause yourself problems. If you are in the UK buy within the UK or you'll have warranty problems. There are just as good deals available in the UK if you buy outright. You can buy brand new on eBay for around £450

ashyx said:
Don't cause yourself problems. If you are in the UK buy within the UK or you'll have warranty problems. The are just as good deals available in the UK if you buy outright. You can buy brand new on eBay for around £450
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That's one of my main concerns when it comes to my M8...Also imported my device from the UK to South Africa. So I'm really!!!!! Hoping all stays well and the device doesn't have problems, exactly because of possible warranty issues :fingers-crossed:

sweetpoison said:
Hi Fellow Members,
Forgive Me I donot Understand Any technical Android words like Bootloader, S-OFF, Root Etc
In Short I am a Prospective ANDROID NOOB!!!
Would appreciate your help in the following matter.
I would like to buy a HTC ONE M8 from the US.
The only deals I can get within my price range are BAD ESN Sprint and Verizon Phones.
I Intend to use the phone on GSM Networks in the United Kingdom.
Can you please answer the following questions
1) It is my understanding that when you insert a sim in a cdma phone (Sprint or Verizon) It will always ask for an unlock code?
2) Cant I just buy an unlock code off the internet without having the need to Boot,Rom,S-Off? and just unlock the phone to all GSM Networds Throughout the world. (Except US)?
3) Did any just try the unlock code? Did it work for anyone here With a BAD ESN? I dont mind spending a few dollars to get the phone unlocked.
4) Once unlocked through unlock code. Will it remain unlocked even if I Change Sims?
Please bare in mind The phone is for Use outside the US.
Can you fellows Please guide me regarding the same.
Thank you very much.
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From my understanding Sprint phones are tricky, because they don't come unlocked.
I bought a Verizon M8 last week from the US (God ESN) an I'm using it with no problems on a Italian GSM network (Vodafone). The only issue I had was that tethering didn't work but i flashed Viper ROM and everything now works great including tethering.
I now want to buy one for my wife and I found a great, almost new Verizon M8 (450$) with a bad ESN. Does anybody know if i can use this on Vodafone in Italy?

Can you only buy the M8 developer edition in US?

I'm checking on Htcs website in Germany (where I live) and there's no mention of the developer edition, it justs shows me retail stores where I can buy the regular unlocked gsm edition , can you unlock the regular unlocked gsm edition without voiding the warranty?

I have a similar question, so instead of starting a new thread, I figured I'd try here first.
I also live in Germany and I thought that the phone I bought unlocked was what many forums are referring to as "international unlocked". However, after the Lollipop update I tried to look into the software number and it turned out that I got a T-Mobile phone with CID T-MOB101. As far as the GSM is concerned, the phone is unlocked, I'm using it with O2 for example. But the update to Lollipop has the T-Mobile version 4.19.111.2. I read that 111 here actually refer to T-Mobile.
So my question is : what is meant by international unlocked and can one actually buy one in Germany?

unifex_ said:
I have a similar question, so instead of starting a new thread, I figured I'd try here first.
I also live in Germany and I thought that the phone I bought unlocked was what many forums are referring to as "international unlocked". However, after the Lollipop update I tried to look into the software number and it turned out that I got a T-Mobile phone with CID T-MOB101. As far as the GSM is concerned, the phone is unlocked, I'm using it with O2 for example. But the update to Lollipop has the T-Mobile version 4.19.111.2. I read that 111 here actually refer to T-Mobile.
So my question is : what is meant by international unlocked and can one actually buy one in Germany?
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Where di you get your device from ? Amazon?

Officially, the Developer Edition is US-only

EddyOS said:
Officially, the Developer Edition is US-only
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So if I want to unlock my bootloader without losing my warranty im effed up? :crying:

The US Developer Edition comes with the bootloader already unlocked (if that's what you mean)
The EU handset comes locked and you have to unlock it and technically does void your warranty

EddyOS said:
The EU handset comes locked and you have to unlock it and technically does void your warranty
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That's what I was afraid of :crying: , I need xposed :crying:

Do you actually need it, though? Or just want it cause you're used to having it

Chad_Petree said:
Where di you get your device from ? Amazon?
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The question of rooting confuses me as well. I'm not so worried about the warranty since in Europe it is rather inefficient anyway. However, all guides keep stating that "it is not for everyone" and that one has to "root responsibly" in order to stay safe.
At the same time, many things that seem useful (such as complete backups, firewalls, permissions control by e.g. ApOps, etc) are only possible on rooted devices. And these are not some eye candy tweaks, without such tools it seems impossible to control the device. I mean, without rooting I can't even get rid of FM radio, what's up with that!
Yes, people might say, just leave it alone, pretend it's not there. But there are tons of apps on the phone that I do not need/use and I can't even disable them. Perhaps I can't use the memory if I delete them, perhaps they drain the battery only a little bit if I don't use them, but to me it's very annoying that I am not in control of MY phone. It's not sponsored by any carrier, I paid what was asked for it, I reckon it's mine now.