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I'm currently using Mi 5S Plus which I like a lot. However, it would be nice to have secondary phone with a smaller footprint and a better rear camera (for stills). Do you guys think it is worth spending $300 on Mi 5S? Is the camera a great improvement over 5S Plus? I find the camera on 5S Plus to be disappointing (other than that, I love this phone).
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I'm currently using Mi 5S Plus which I like a lot. However, it would be nice to have secondary phone with a smaller footprint and a better rear camera (for stills). Do you guys think it is worth spending $300 on Mi 5S? Is the camera a great improvement over 5S Plus? I find the camera on 5S Plus to be disappointing (other than that, I love this phone).
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I guess if you already have a Mi 5s Plus, there's no point in getting this since it's very similar, despite one or 2 things
flipp0 said:
I'm currently using Mi 5S Plus which I like a lot. However, it would be nice to have secondary phone with a smaller footprint and a better rear camera (for stills). Do you guys think it is worth spending $300 on Mi 5S? Is the camera a great improvement over 5S Plus? I find the camera on 5S Plus to be disappointing (other than that, I love this phone).
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Why not try this Camera mod?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/piximod-camera-mod-devices-kk-lp-mm-n-t3401517
I'm not 100% satisfied with the camera quality, compared to my old Sony Xperia Z1c. I do hope that this will be a little improved with the next global image release. I tend to get not fully sharp images while making pictures of text, as if in the last moment the camera decides to make them a little soft.
patoberli said:
I'm not 100% satisfied with the camera quality, compared to my old Sony Xperia Z1c. I do hope that this will be a little improved with the next global image release. I tend to get not fully sharp images while making pictures of text, as if in the last moment the camera decides to make them a little soft.
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Or you decide to not hold the camera still. It is called camera shake. Try it in full sunlight to force the camera to use a fast shutter speed and then check the sharpness. I bet it is sharp as hell.
My camera makes very good pictures. it is miles ahead of my old Nexus 6p camera.
Trust me, I hold it very still
flipp0 said:
I'm currently using Mi 5S Plus which I like a lot. However, it would be nice to have secondary phone with a smaller footprint and a better rear camera (for stills). Do you guys think it is worth spending $300 on Mi 5S? Is the camera a great improvement over 5S Plus? I find the camera on 5S Plus to be disappointing (other than that, I love this phone).
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if xiaomi share the kernel sources of this phone,i recomend you buy this! but no diffrent between mi5s plus and mi5s.both of them has the same hardware.
I was incredibly annoyed with the ultrasonic fingerprint sensor that had 20% hit rate and awkward body shape on mi5s which has buttons almost on the back of the phone, and the camera on mi5s plus. Also the lack of Nougat and Google assistant on both.
Now I have zte axon 7.
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zdravke said:
I was incredibly annoyed with the ultrasonic fingerprint sensor that had 20% hit rate and awkward body shape on mi5s which has buttons almost on the back of the phone, and the camera on mi5s plus. Also the lack of Nougat and Google assistant on both.
Now I have zte axon 7.
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The fingerprint hit rate was bad on my Note 5 but not 20%. I just learned to place my finger on the same area/angle and my hit rate went up.
However, if it was raining and some moisture was on the sensor, it would not work well again.
I just think fingerprint technology is still ways away. You don't want to have any false positives so they lean on not able to unlock.
Actually there is a clear quality difference between the "traditional" scanner on my Redmi 4 Pro and the ultra sonic one on my Mi 5s. The hit rate on my Redmi 4 is nearly 100% (although I don't use the phone every day and can't exactly give numbers), but it is more reliable then on my 5s. I don't know though if it's easier to fake the finger on the Redmi than on the 5s.
flipp0 said:
I'm currently using Mi 5S Plus which I like a lot. However, it would be nice to have secondary phone with a smaller footprint and a better rear camera (for stills). Do you guys think it is worth spending $300 on Mi 5S? Is the camera a great improvement over 5S Plus? I find the camera on 5S Plus to be disappointing (other than that, I love this phone).
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I really like the mi5s, but take into account that mine is rooted, I disabled MIUI (memory) optimization, set most of my frequently used apps to be locked so they load near instantly when multitasking etc.
The camera by the way is absolutely excellent - I'm a hobbyist photographer for many years (using 'traditional' real cameras) and this is the first smartphone I've had that is good enough for me to not take my other 'real' camera with me as the photos from the mi5s are really that good. It has a very good optimization of focus accuracy and speed, a pretty good trade off between denoising and sharpening, the white balance is very accurate and the resulting images are sharp consistently across the image, from center to corners.
I'm currently using the EU ROM (7.3.30) and am very happy with the phone.
But, having flashed the lineageOS14.1 unofficial ROM (from April 2017, I d/l it yesterday), I can say that while the mi5s is very fast and all, it can certainly feel snappier in performance when using a more traditional ROM (I tried both lineageOS 14.1 and resurrection remix, both unofficial).
I am sticking with the MIUI rom because the stock camera app is much more reliable for consistently well balanced (white balance, sharpening, and denoising) images with fast focusing, much more than any 3rd party app I tried (manual camera, open camera, google camera (which is supposedly similar to the app used on the Google Pixel), a better camera...).
Hope this helps.
This is the best phone i have so far next to LG G3
Battery really good and much better compared to snapdragon 625 devices
And performances much better than snapdragon 820
Would recommended!
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I've owned this phone for 2 weeks now. I purchased it for £211 so it is very cheap compared to most other flagships on the market. With the price in mind, it's definitely a great bang for your buck phone.
However, be mindful that the camera is bad (good hardware but terrible software) which result in out of focus photos and the fingerprint scanner is fairly slow. I'm sure a few people will chime in to say that the camera is the best they've ever used but you will ready of many, many more instances of people with a negative experience. The front facing camera is absolutely terrible and every single photo I've taken has been out of focus. Before people criticise my photography ability, I am a hobbyist photographer with a 50D and several L series lenses so I know how to take a decent photo.
So anyway, some sacrifices were made given the price tag so if you're ok with those shortcomings then you should definitely buy it.
The only thing we have is Hass and the redmi5plus versions?
They have terrible front cam...
(I'm not talking about back cam)
That's because this phone has an awful front sensor that only performs "well" in extremely bright conditions.
Hakkinan said:
That's because this phone has an awful front sensor that only performs "well" in extremely bright conditions.
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Xiaomi ****ed us in this phone with camera...
ncar123 said:
Xiaomi ****ed us in this phone with camera...
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It's a budget device after all, considering the price it isn't that bad.
If you bought a phone to take selfies... Nevermind...
Anyone tested this? I'm not finding any info on this.
BigMosley said:
Anyone tested this? I'm not finding any info on this.
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It is supposed to be the same.
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Heard that the update Samsung has already rolled out is supposed to improve the fingerprint sensor.
It's the same speed with S10's. Although needs some try and error at first because the sensor has moved up.
I've been listening to and watching tons of reviews... I'd say most of them have said the scanner is much faster than the S10+.
More accurate than the s10 plus I had at launch. One of the reasons I returned it the s10. Happy with the fingerprint scanner on the note 10 plus so far.
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I have a s10 5g and it's the same sensor that note 10 and yes, it's more accurate and quickly.
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From Gizmodo:
"And while Samsung’s in-screen fingerprint sensor doesn’t affect display quality, one of the most pleasant surprises with the Note 10+ is how much faster its fingerprint recognition is compared to the Galaxy S10. The S10's in-screen fingerprint reader was a good replacement for rear-mounted options, but whatever Samsung did to the Note 10's sensor had made it noticeably superior."
There are many other reviews like this. I'm thrilled to hear this!
From CNET:
"The Note 10 Plus also fixes my two major complaints about spring's S10+: the in-screen fingerprint reader is dramatically more accurate this time around, and the camera's dedicated night mode improves photo quality in low light.
What's the basic difference between these two apart from band support.
The indian version uses Sony sensors (the sames from the Mi A2 and Redmi note 6 Pro)
The rear may actually be worse as the Sony sensor is smaller, but the front 20 MP (5, it's pixel binned) is better than the omnivision one
And even that doesn't matter much cuz you can buy the sensor replacements on AliExpress
That's it, hope i helped
Hugask said:
The indian version uses Sony sensors (the sames from the Mi A2 and Redmi note 6 Pro)
The rear may actually be worse as the Sony sensor is smaller, but the front 20 MP (5, it's pixel binned) is better than the omnivision one
And even that doesn't matter much cuz you can buy the sensor replacements on AliExpress
That's it, hope i helped
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Please elaborate on this matter!
I'm interested in switching to a better sensor for my Redmi Note 8T. Not happy with samsung sg1 sensor. Other version of the same phone have Sony sensors on board and some newer board versions a baetter samsung sensor, sg2.
Thanks.
MadK9 said:
Please elaborate on this matter!
I'm interested in switching to a better sensor for my Redmi Note 8T. Not happy with samsung sg1 sensor. Other version of the same phone have Sony sensors on board and some newer board versions a baetter samsung sensor, sg2.
Thanks.
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I'm sorry, but there are no variations of the redmi note 8(or t), they all use the same sgm1 and the 13MP omnivision as the front sensor
Hardware mod on the redmi note 5 is only possible because all the variations use the same board, only with different sensors so they all use the same connectors and software
TLDR, this is not how it works :/
I disagree with you as I discussed with a user which have a Sony sensor and his board version is higher than mine, meaning it is newer. He sent me screenshots.
Rom beta testin
If i buy a diferent sensor can i replace it and will it funcion normaly? Or would need some custom firmware?
Buying a different camera sensor will not work. First of all the contacts to attach it to the daughter board will be different. Secondly it probably won't fit in the cameras space and so would rattle. Thirdly the firmware wouldn't understand the output of the sensor. Sorry
if only android worked as proper os with modular drivers or should i say it's Qualcomm fault.... as far as my testing i think sensors on poco f3 are not bad at all it's the software that counts these days, if you can tweak gcam you can get good results in color reproduction and dynamic range and video quality as well, keep in mind that all phone camera systems have limitations and the best bet is getting a cheap used compact camera like lumix lx10 or sony rx100 or canon g7x.
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If i buy a diferent sensor can i replace it and will it funcion normaly? Or would need some custom firmware?
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Someone tried a IMX686 (or IMX 682) from a K40 Pro in the standard K40(actually vice versa but the point still stands) and it will not work. If you can read chinese then watch this video. Basically the camera module can fit in the connector and can fit in the frame but it will not work both in standard and 48MP mode as the driver is missing.
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if only android worked as proper os with modular drivers or should i say it's Qualcomm fault.... as far as my testing i think sensors on poco f3 are not bad at all it's the software that counts these days, if you can tweak gcam you can get good results in color reproduction and dynamic range and video quality as well, keep in mind that all phone camera systems have limitations and the best bet is getting a cheap used compact camera like lumix lx10 or sony rx100 or canon g7x.
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Nah the sensor is objectively awful, especially in low light conditions. My 3 year old MI 8 has a better sensor.
Camera sensors ranking
Camera sensors rating for different shooting conditions. Comparison list of image sensors used in phones, tablets and action cameras.
www.deviceranks.com
Stoffl_ said:
Nah the sensor is objectively awful, especially in low light conditions. My 3 year old MI 8 has a better sensor.
Camera sensors ranking
Camera sensors rating for different shooting conditions. Comparison list of image sensors used in phones, tablets and action cameras.
www.deviceranks.com
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For me the sensor is like lightyears ahead of my old phone, that thing can't even take a low light photo without blur in 80% of scenarios. Probably because my standards are set so low that this sensor is amazing to me.
Stoffl_ said:
Nah the sensor is objectively awful, especially in low light conditions. My 3 year old MI 8 has a better sensor.
Camera sensors ranking
Camera sensors rating for different shooting conditions. Comparison list of image sensors used in phones, tablets and action cameras.
www.deviceranks.com
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imx363 is a very good sensor even if it's lacking pixel banding but what make the difference is the lenses, tbh they used a higher quality one in mi8 compared to f3, also the lack of ois on f3 affects low light quality