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What does this truely mean. I just rooted via ODIN and my flag was tripped 0x1, does the flag geg tripped regardless if you root or install custom roms ?
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Seriously, there are tons of threads on this. You didn't do any research before rooting your phone?
Once tripped it can't be reset. If you planned on flashing roms, there it's no way around reporting the Knox flag. Now that you have already tripped it, you can't go back.
Whether or not it will effect you depends on how you use your phone, software out hardware issues you may have and if you try to get warrantee repair. For many it it's not a big deal.
I did do my research Im just asking a question maybe there was an update on how to change the void but obviously kot . Thanks anyway. Dont get all hyped thats what xda is for
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Hi, I got my note 3 recently and all i have done is just root my note 3 so far. but i have been doing some readings. from what i had found is Knox is a software on your phone, i am guessing and this is just a guess if you use the bloatware remover it might delete the knox program and files from your phone. It might trigger a reset on the counter. I remember reading the list of files it deletes, and it delete all of knox files and folder and a bunch of other stuff but you can edit the script to make it only delete the knox. It might delete the counter or reset it. And you can just reinstall it back and see if the counter is back at 0. remember i am just taking a guess here, does any 1 think this might work?
You cannot reset the Knox flag once it had been tripped.
megaearth77 said:
Hi, I got my note 3 recently and all i have done is just root my note 3 so far. but i have been doing some readings. from what i had found is Knox is a software on your phone, i am guessing and this is just a guess if you use the bloatware remover it might delete the knox program and files from your phone. It might trigger a reset on the counter. I remember reading the list of files it deletes, and it delete all of knox files and folder and a bunch of other stuff but you can edit the script to make it only delete the knox. It might delete the counter or reset it. And you can just reinstall it back and see if the counter is back at 0. remember i am just taking a guess here, does any 1 think this might work?
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Try that and you might blow the efuse they have with removing Knox.
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wow didn't know that
megaearth77 said:
wow didn't know that
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It what chain fire was afraid of and reason why triangle away won't work
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krelvinaz said:
Seriously, there are tons of threads on this. You didn't do any research before rooting your phone?
Once tripped it can't be reset. If you planned on flashing roms, there it's no way around reporting the Knox flag. Now that you have already tripped it, you can't go back.
Whether or not it will effect you depends on how you use your phone, software out hardware issues you may have and if you try to get warrantee repair. For many it it's not a big deal.
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So rude all that extra was not really needed on do your research. You were probably once new to something too
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Try that and you might blow the efuse they have with removing Knox.
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By just deleting Knox? Pretty sure lots of us have removed it by now and not blown any fuse. I deleted it right out of the box and my phone works just fine...
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By just deleting Knox? Pretty sure lots of us have removed it by now and not blown any fuse. I deleted it right out of the box and my phone works just fine...
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You didn't delete Knox fully or it would not have the counter. Trust me chain fire tried with no success. He has been one of the pioneers in getting things done and could not.
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Can someone explain to me what Knox does and why it get's "tripped"?
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You didn't delete Knox fully or it would not have the counter. Trust me chain fire tried with no success. He has been one of the pioneers in getting things done and could not.
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I was referring to what I quoted you saying about blowing an e-fuse by removing Knox. I'm not talking about the check component in the bootloader or wherever it's stored - just the software components that are very easily removable, and do not seem to have caused any adverse effects (aside from the arguably undesired Knox 0x1 flag).
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dinggus said:
Can someone explain to me what Knox does and why it get's "tripped"?
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It's a component Samsung decided to build into their new phones and Android builds that is allegedly supposed to be helpful for device security, especially when used with a corporate mobile device system.
Currently, if you flash a phone that has Knox installed with non-factory ROM, Recovery software, etc an at-bootup counter is "permanently" tripped indicating that the device has been tampered with.
I put that word in quotes because we all know with enough time and resources someone will surely figure out a way to reset that counter, if not remove it altogether.
SHORT VERSION: it's a piece of garbage that Samsung and Tmo can use to not uphold your warranty (since it technically voids the entire warranty if you flash custom stuff).
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It's a component Samsung decided to build into their new phones and Android builds that is allegedly supposed to be helpful for device security, especially when used with a corporate mobile device system.
Currently, if you flash a phone that has Knox installed with non-factory ROM, Recovery software, etc an at-bootup counter is "permanently" tripped indicating that the device has been tampered with.
I put that word in quotes because we all know with enough time and resources someone will surely figure out a way to reset that counter, if not remove it altogether.
SHORT VERSION: it's a piece of garbage that Samsung and Tmo can use to not uphold your warranty (since it technically voids the entire warranty if you flash custom stuff).
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Guess I'll stay away from Samsung devices then. If I could get a Note 3 that has the camera features and S-Pen, I'd be happy.
Interesting, i got a few question i want to ask. I root my t mobile note 3 recently using the new method that don't trip the knox counter. And i install several apps that require root access. I know if you install custom rom it will trigger the knox, but i won't on my and its still stock at 4.3. My Question is what about apps that require root access? I got ES file explorer, es task manager, game guardian, cachemate for root users free, cpu tuner, and titanium backup, does those trigger the knox? And is efuse short for eletronic fuse? if it is, can't you just replace it to undo the knox?
Apps don't trigger the Knox flag, flashing a kernel roms etc do. Efuse is in the snapdragon processor.
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I was referring to what I quoted you saying about blowing an e-fuse by removing Knox. I'm not talking about the check component in the bootloader or wherever it's stored - just the software components that are very easily removable, and do not seem to have caused any adverse effects (aside from the arguably undesired Knox 0x1 flag).
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It's a component Samsung decided to build into their new phones and Android builds that is allegedly supposed to be helpful for device security, especially when used with a corporate mobile device system.
Currently, if you flash a phone that has Knox installed with non-factory ROM, Recovery software, etc an at-bootup counter is "permanently" tripped indicating that the device has been tampered with.
I put that word in quotes because we all know with enough time and resources someone will surely figure out a way to reset that counter, if not remove it altogether.
SHORT VERSION: it's a piece of garbage that Samsung and Tmo can use to not uphold your warranty (since it technically voids the entire warranty if you flash custom stuff).
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It voids Samsung warranty not TMOBILE. So ur good for 1 year
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Yes, Knox is Samsung thing, T-mo has nothing to do with it and some people already suggested, T-mo doesn't even check Knox flag for replacements etc, at least so far. I asked here before if it's e-fuse and got different answers, so I ask again : are we sure it's e-fuse or we just speculating? The reason is, there was a guy in international forum claiming Samsung reset his Knox flag, which would be not possible with e-fuse. BTW I just updated my old GS3 to 4.3 and it added Knox to it, so I got mad and rooted it to just to delete this stupid Knox, so now how do I check that flag on it? It says custom because is rooted, but where is the Knox flag?
You see the Knox setting when you put your phone in download mode.
As for resetting the Knox flag, I've not seen a confined resetting of it or better said, if it can be done, no one outside of Samsung has been able to do it and prove they have.
So I've been searching around and have not found out the answer to these questions... I'm assuming the answer is "Yes" to the first but want to confirm:
If the KNOX flag is tripped, the KNOX software will no longer work. Ever (assuming we never get a 0x0 reset). Correct?
Now for the next question, assuming "No":
If I use the RDLV to root without tripping KNOX, will the KNOX software still work?
I ask because my company does have MDM and supports KNOX and I may want to use it in the future.
I need to root my tablet so I can use a few apps I like. I had it on my Samsung note 10.1 2012 and used triangle away. Not really looking for a rom, at this point I like stock ROM.
Any help please?
This has been answered a 1000 x before. Knox flag will trip and no known way to reset.
I have already rooted but have since noticed an issue with my display and I am past the return date for Best Buy. Because I have tripped Knox, I will not be able to send it in to Samsung?
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I have already rooted but have since noticed an issue with my display and I am past the return date for Best Buy. Because I have tripped Knox, I will not be able to send it in to Samsung?
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You can always send it back for repair. Whether the repair cost is covered by warranty will depend on your local laws and or willingness of the service center. Just return it in official status and "play dumb"
Triangle away won't work?
Nope... it wont work on knox... will only work on normal counter.
edan1979 said:
Nope... it wont work on knox... will only work on normal counter.
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I didn't bother answering only to repeat myself again. .....
I too would love to root but don't want to trip Knox. Samsung are real bastard for introducing it. Too bad the only capable hacker Geohot sold out and works for Google patching exploits now...
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What about this towel root thing? It says it roots without tripping Knox, is this true?
please read... towel root no longer working on new release since geohot = the guy who make it are now working with google to patch those exploit.
Sorry for the noobish question, but I keep hearing about this Knox counter thing on the Root Bounty threads, that people will pay extra if it doesn't trip Knox.
Can someone tell me WHAT Knox is, what it's significance is to the phone and to rooting/flashing?
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Sorry for the noobish question, but I keep hearing about this Knox counter thing on the Root Bounty threads, that people will pay extra if it doesn't trip Knox.
Can someone tell me WHAT Knox is, what it's significance is to the phone and to rooting/flashing?
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I'm not sure... all I know is I learned to fear anything Knox
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Knox is built in security that samsung has created. problem is that when you root, it trips a knox counter so samsung or verizon can simply power the phone into the bootloader and see knox is tripped, and right away know the device is rooted, which voids any warranties.
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jayochs said:
Knox is built in security that samsung has created. problem is that when you root, it trips a knox counter so samsung or verizon can simply power the phone into the bootloader and see knox is tripped, and right away know the device is rooted, which voids any warranties.
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Can Knox be removed somehow? Have other phones with Knox been successfully rooted without tripping it?
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Can Knox be removed somehow? Have other phones with Knox been successfully rooted without tripping it?
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No, knox can not be removed. It also can NOT be reset. Yes, phones have been rooted without tripping knox. I had my Verizon Note 3 rooted and knox was not tripped.
Basically, here's how I explained it to a friend. Think of knox, as a saftey line keeping you from opening your car's hood. Your warranty is fine as long as you don't mess with the engine. You decide to cut that line, and pop the hood. That's tripping knox. If you tried to modify the engine and ended up blowing it up, yeah, you ****ed up! However, if didn't touch the engine, and then later had your car's horn stop working, it doesn't matter. Because you popped the hood, your engine car's warranty is GONE!
While my phone was updating I just had a question......wtf does this mean xD
knox warranty - void 0x1 (2)
it comes with rooting your device. it shows that your phone doesn't have warranty any more.
i have it too but if you need to show that it's not rooted, try triangle away.
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poninaine said:
it comes with rooting your device. it shows that your phone doesn't have warranty any more.
i have it too but if you need to show that it's not rooted, try triangle away.
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Triangle away only resets custom recovery flash counter, the Knox tick is permanent.
Once you have voided the Knox warranty, does the Knox software work? Or, do you get an error? Does the Private Data still work?
ChodaBoyUSA said:
Once you have voided the Knox warranty, does the Knox software work? Or, do you get an error? Does the Private Data still work?
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If you work for or use a corporate email account on a your phone, there is a chance depending on the companies security profile that the network may not let your phone send email on it as it will be seen as a compromised device. Again this all depends on what the level of security is that your IT department has set KNOX monitoring to. They may not even care.
But if they do, your phone could be locked out of the network for having the KNOX bit tripped.
Hi,
after a long time using iPhone i switched to Android (Note 10+ Exy.
I considered to root it but dont want to loose all Samsung Apps etc. I found a Website called knoxreset.com which tells you that it can put the knox back to 0x0 and "restore" all Samsung Apps.
I tried to find some reviews about this Website but found nothing. I know that Knox now a days has something to do with the Hardware and as im a newbie, i wanted to ask you guys if this is legit or a scam ?
They sell it rn for 45 Dollars.
Thanks for any help!
Scam
raul6 said:
Scam
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Okay, i'll stay away from it
Shxckz said:
Hi,
after a long time using iPhone i switched to Android (Note 10+ Exy.
I considered to root it but dont want to loose all Samsung Apps etc. I found a Website called knoxreset.com which tells you that it can put the knox back to 0x0 and "restore" all Samsung Apps.
I tried to find some reviews about this Website but found nothing. I know that Knox now a days has something to do with the Hardware and as im a newbie, i wanted to ask you guys if this is legit or a scam ?
They sell it rn for 45 Dollars.
Thanks for any help!
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I would go with a scam... Tripping knox literally blows an efuse. Once it blown that's it... It is blown for good on that motherboard.
The site is misleading in what it does. The app involves rooting (or uses existing root on) the phone, installs (possibly uses if exists) a custom recovery and merely makes the trip counter looks like it wasn't tripped (it does not actually change the knox trip counter). It's a purely superficial mask and nothing more.. also if I recall correctly this is something you can do yourself.
Also the site says it doesn't effect knox, so any apps which depend on knox itself won't work.
https://support.samsungknox.com/hc/...-a-Knox-Warranty-Bit-and-how-is-it-triggered-
It's easy to fake reset Knox if you are rooted which is exactly what they are doing. It will fool some apps that won't work if knox has been tripped but it won't fool Samsung and as soon as you flash back stock then it will show Knox tripped. If you want root but won't to fake knox then there are guides out there
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andy242 said:
It's easy to fake reset Knox if you are rooted which is exactly what they are doing. It will fool some apps that won't work if knox has been tripped but it won't fool Samsung and as soon as you flash back stock then it will show Knox tripped. If you want root but won't to fake knox then there are guides out there
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So it is possible to root, fake knox and use for example Samsung Pass or other apps that doesnt work with a tripped knox ? Thank you for your answer!
EDIT: I cant find any updated tutorial how to fake it properly, do you have any link for me ?
Shxckz said:
So it is possible to root, fake knox and use for example Samsung Pass or other apps that doesnt work with a tripped knox ? Thank you for your answer!
EDIT: I cant find any updated tutorial how to fake it properly, do you have any link for me ?
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No, banking apps, samsung pay, and other apps will not work, only some apps can be fooled by hiding root, just consider this before rooting, as for tripping knox, there are some cosmetic implementations that make knox look 0x0, but just for show, this can not in anyway be reversed, apps specifically looking for the e-fuse status, will never be fooled
The ONLY sure fire way known to reset KNOX is Motherboard replacement...
This will be expensive and will also change your IMEI and Serial number...
yeah it definitely looks like a scam website @scottusa2008 is definitely on the mark. once that efuse is blown, its blown.
Okay guys thank you very much for the help, ill do some more research and will probably go with the Dr. Ketan Rom
I'll close this Thread now
Ex developer of KNOX Reset (Disabler) application
Hi,
The application listed at KNOXReset.com cannot indeed reset the actual KNOX counter. It is also mentioned on the store page before purchasing the application now.
It has been designed to spoof the string in Odin mode and display 0x0(0) regardless of actual value. It works only on certain devices.
Also, it now includes modified S applications which work even on rooted devices.
Venus342
lolol... all it does is set a property to appear as not tripped.. smh.. ppl do anything for a quick buck these days
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Ex developer of KNOX Reset (Disabler) application
Hi,
The application listed at KNOXReset.com cannot indeed reset the actual KNOX counter. It is also mentioned on the store page before purchasing the application now.
It has been designed to spoof the string in Odin mode and display 0x0(0) regardless of actual value. It works only on certain devices.
Also, it now includes modified S applications which work even on rooted devices.
Venus342
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Where's the application brother