True "always-on" ambient mode available on Moto 360 with the new LCA44B update
Try this:
- Enable Ambient Mode on the watch
- Disable "Tilt to wake screen" setting in the Android Wear app
The screen will now stay on indefinitely, just like a regular watch. Until now, the Ambient Mode would always turn the screen off after a few seconds and there was no true "always-on" mode available.
PS: Battery drain seems to be the same as before.
Interesting battery life claim. did you get to verify it for more then 1 day?
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Cst79 said:
Try this:
- Enable Ambient Mode on the watch
- Disable "Tilt to wake screen" setting in the Android Wear app
The screen will now stay on indefinitely, just like a regular watch. Until now, the Ambient Mode would always turn the screen off after a few seconds and there was no true "always-on" mode available.
PS: Battery drain seems to be the same as before.
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Almost just like a regular watch.. Screen stays on but gets dimmed after a few seconds. At least: mine does.
So it stays on even with the watch down by your side? Pretty sure ambient mode kept the screen on before any time the watch was nearly level (like when looking at it).
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doublej713 said:
So it stays on even with the watch down by your side? Pretty sure ambient mode kept the screen on before any time the watch was nearly level (like when looking at it).
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Yes, the watch always stays on in all positions.
Cst79 said:
Yes, the watch always stays on in all positions.
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... but dimmed after 10 seconds..
pietrucci said:
... but dimmed after 10 seconds..
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I don't understand this. Of course the screen will be dimmed when always on, this is what happens for all smartwatches and even all the laptops by default when not actively in use. This is a sane thing to do. I wouldn't want my watch to glow in the dark when I'm walking.
Plus, are you able to tell the time when looking at your regular watch in the dark ? No. You have to press a light button (if present; if not, you are out of luck). With the Moto 360 you are able to see the information without pressing any button, even in the dark.
The purpose of the always-on mode is to have access to information with no delay at all times, and that's what it does.
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I don't understand this. Of course the screen will be dimmed when always on, this is what happens for all smartwatches and even all the laptops by default when not actively in use. This is a sane thing to do. I wouldn't want my watch to glow in the dark when I'm walking.
Plus, are you able to tell the time when looking at your regular watch in the dark ? No. You have to press a light button (if present; if not, you are out of luck). With the Moto 360 you are able to see the information without pressing any button, even in the dark.
The purpose of the always-on mode is to have access to information with no delay at all times, and that's what it does.
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I was referring to your comment "like a regular watch". A regular watch always has a clear display, has it?.
I monitored my battery usage. From 6Am till 2pm my usase was 33%, so about 4% per hour. After switching to ambient mode from 2pm till 7pm my usage was 54% so about 11% per hour. Now 9pm my watch is empty. Normally by this time my battery still is at 40%.
Could be coincidence (?)
But still thanks for your tip.
pietrucci said:
I monitored my battery usage. From 6Am till 2pm my usase was 33%, so about 4% per hour. After switching to ambient mode from 2pm till 7pm my usage was 54% so about 11% per hour. Now 9pm my watch is empty. Normally by this time my battery still is at 40%. Could be coincidence (?)
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Of course it's not coincidence. Ambient mode drains battery faster, everyone knows this, the watch also tells you this when turning on the ambient mode. When I said the battery drain seems to be the same, I referred to the drain with the new "always-on" ambient mode versus the drain with the "old" ambient mode from before the update, when the screen still turned off after a few seconds but was more sensitive to movements than the regular mode.
i don't think i'll be using ambient mode with the moto360... so this new "feature" is useless to me (or those who need their watch to last a FULL DAY)
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i don't think i'll be using ambient mode with the moto360... so this new "feature" is useless to me (or those who need their watch to last a FULL DAY)
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If you consider a full day a working day, it lasts a full day without any problem. Mine lasts 16 hours with Ambient Mode on and I get many email and chat notifications. It doesn't last 24 hours but anything between 16 and 36 is useless because the watch would die on you the next day in case you miss a night's charge.
With WatchMaker, you can control how the screen looks while dimmed, including keeping it on full brightness (maybe just removing the second hand so it doesn't have to refresh so much), but I agree this would not be a great option for the 360...
All Android Wear devices have always done with it seems this update does for the 360.
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Darnell_Chat_TN said:
All Android Wear devices have always done with it seems this update does for the 360.
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But none looked so good in the process
I'm considering using ambient mode but I'm not so sure. I'm using tilt to wake the device up. I heard battery life is similar to tilt to wake anyway when comparing tilt to wake and ambient mode together.
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Has anyone confirmed ambient mode does noticeably have more of a battery impact?
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MisterCoolBeans said:
Has anyone confirmed ambient mode does noticeably have more of a battery impact?
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After testing the Ambient ON + Tilt OFF (true always-on) mode for about 3-4 days with varius settings, I came to the conclusion that this mode drains battery significantly more than Ambient ON + Tilt ON,
Ambient ON + Tilt OFF lasts around 12 hours.
Ambient ON + Tilt ON lasts around 16 hours.
Ambient OFF + Tilt ON can last around 22-24 hours.
However, the always-on mode improves the functionality and experience so much that I wouldn't consider switching back, I prefer to just live with the shorter battery life.
I feel that there can be so many improvements that could be made regarding the screen, for energy saving purposes, but Google and Motorola just don't think of them. For example, notifications wake up the screen but there could be an option to disable this and only wake up the screen when tapping or pressing the button.
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After testing the Ambient ON + Tilt OFF (true always-on) mode for about 3-4 days with varius settings, I came to the conclusion that this mode drains battery significantly more than Ambient ON + Tilt ON,
Ambient ON + Tilt OFF lasts around 12 hours.
Ambient ON + Tilt ON lasts around 16 hours.
Ambient OFF + Tilt ON can last around 22-24 hours.
However, the always-on mode improves the functionality and experience so much that I wouldn't consider switching back, I prefer to just live with the shorter battery life.
I feel that there can be so many improvements that could be made regarding the screen, for energy saving purposes, but Google and Motorola just don't think of them. For example, notifications wake up the screen but there could be an option to disable this and only wake up the screen when tapping or pressing the button.
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That's strange why do you think Ambient ON + Tilt ON gives out more battery life than with Tilt OFF?
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That's strange why do you think Ambient ON + Tilt ON gives out more battery life than with Tilt OFF?
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It's normal, the Ambient ON + Tilt OFF keeps the screen on all the time, while Ambient ON + Tilt ON behaves like the old ambient mode, switching off the screen most of the time, just being more sensitive when you move your hand.
just so im using this right..
if i have ambient on and tilt OFF then the only way to WAKE the watch is to tap the screen?
the watch is dim and its great but to wake it, i have to tap the screen..
so is that how this setup works (ambient on tilt OFF)?
marctronixx said:
just so im using this right..
if i have ambient on and tilt OFF then the only way to WAKE the watch is to tap the screen?
the watch is dim and its great but to wake it, i have to tap the screen..
so is that how this setup works (ambient on tilt OFF)?
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Yes.
Does anybody know if it is possible to have ambient mode come on and go off at specified times. I would like ambient on through the day and to go off automatically at say 9PM.
Tasker with autowear could certainly be used to toggle on schedule what auto wear calls "keep screen on" mode. But it's actually more aggressive at keeping the screen on than the normal ambient mode in watch settings.
Is there any app that can show ambient display always on only when we have a notification waiting our attention?
Samsung have it's display always on, there are several apps that do that, but that I don't want.
OP5T have Ambient Display that only lights up when we tilt the phone, than screen turns off again, I want a app that makes my screen Always of and just when I receive a notification it became always on in ambient display until I dismiss or view the notification(s).
The approach of OP is, we have to tilt phone to screen wake up, it's a kind of battery saving, but if I have my phone in hands and be moving, some times the screen lights up unnecessarily, and if is resting in secretary I have to raise it up to show ambient display.
paulomodesto said:
Is there any app that can show ambient display always on only when we have a notification waiting our attention?
Samsung have it's display always on, there are several apps that do that, but that I don't want.
OP5T have Ambient Display that only lights up when we tilt the phone, than screen turns off again, I want a app that makes my screen Always of and just when I receive a notification it became always on in ambient display until I dismiss or view the notification(s).
The approach of OP is, we have to tilt phone to screen wake up, it's a kind of battery saving, but if I have my phone in hands and be moving, some times the screen lights up unnecessarily, and if is resting in secretary I have to raise it up to show ambient display.
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I feel you on this one. Just moved over to OP5T from a Moto X 2014 Pure (and it still works pretty good!) and had become used to the "breathing" notifications with the AMOLED display and hand wave over proximity sensor to show ambient notifications. There is actually a tweak to this aspect in the Omni ROM that just released with Android 8, although it may not be stable enough for daily driving. Will be nice when the settings drill down into this area.
I am not sure why, but sometimes I get the weather on the ambient display, and sometimes I don't. Any ideas what needs to be done?
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I found the ambient display of weather only works when its charging, and for a little while later after I take it off the charger. I have battery optimization turned off. What could be causing this?? Strange.
No idea. I also have this
Me too, sometimes I get the weather on the ambient display, and sometimes I don't... It's weird...
The weather is shown at dawn or the first hours of use (when you wake up, for example). Is like a resume for the day.
Ambient display shows relevant information depending on what are you doing or the hour of the day.
Why not just have a choice to display it all day?