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How quick has LG released updates?

All these snippets of news about the LG G4 I'm reading has got me interested. The one thing that'd put me off is if they really drag their feet releasing Android updates to the phone. How quick has their turnaround been for the G2 and G3? I see that the G2 (now 18 months old) got updated to 5.0.2 which is promising. If they continue to support the top end phones for at least 2 years, then that's awesome news and so much better than Samsung and Sony.
Thoughts?

Techno79 said:
All these snippets of news about the LG G4 I'm reading has got me interested. The one thing that'd put me off is if they really drag their feet releasing Android updates to the phone. How quick has their turnaround been for the G2 and G3? I see that the G2 (now 18 months old) got updated to 5.0.2 which is promising. If they continue to support the top end phones for at least 2 years, then that's awesome news and so much better than Samsung and Sony.
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They've always been really slow with releasing updates, but after 5.0 came out they were among the first companies to release the update. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, the G3 got it before some Nexus devices, which is known for getting the updates first.
Used to suck, but they changed their game around.

well, we'll find out in the coming weeks with 5.1. it's been out for a little while and so far nothing. that's right though, as long as LG is faster than Samsung, they're doing something right...

kp_q said:
well, we'll find out in the coming weeks with 5.1. it's been out for a little while and so far nothing. that's right though, as long as LG is faster than Samsung, they're doing something right...
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Yes it'll be interesting. I think a few other manufacturers have had a few exceptional quick turn arounds for releasing an Android OS update but then fallen back to old ways. It will be interesting to see how long 5.1 takes to come out, if they are quick then I think I'll have my eye on the LG G4 otherwise I may wait for the next Nexus phone. I'm currently rocking a Nexus 5 which I'm really happy about. Still performing great.

Has anyone had a HTC One and moved over to LG? I have been very interested in the LG G4 for a variety of reasons, but have been with HTC since the original Desire, but their cameras have really not been great. What do you like more about the LG? How different is the LG skin to sense? Are you able to achieve S-off? Sorry for all the questions but very interested to know what your opinion is.

Nougat update for Motorola Droid Turbo 2 receives Bluetooth SIG certification

Looks like some good news may really be coming (Nougat)...
http://www.gsmarena.com/nougat_upda...es_bluetooth_sig_certification-news-22523.php
Looks like the Motorola Droid Turbo 2 will soon get Nougat as the Android 7.0 update for the handset (model number XT1585) has been certified by the Bluetooth Special Interest Group (SIG).

Now we will finally get root! Hehe

my2cents said:
Now we will finally get root! Hehe
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wh

I've come to terms with the likelihood that this phone will never see root. And if it does, there will be little to no development for custom roms or other goodies. I am to the point where I think the glory days of rooting and having cool software hacks that actually improve the phones are behind us. Now my opinion could be, because my last three phones have been locked down on Verizon, and my Razr M once unlocked never had great builds. The builds it did have had issues due to bootloader changes and my lack of willingness to downgrade the bootloader once other changes were made. As I recall. Still excited to see Nougat coming at least.

romma1 said:
I've come to terms with the likelihood that this phone will never see root. And if it does, there will be little to no development for custom roms or other goodies. I am to the point where I think the glory days of rooting and having cool software hacks that actually improve the phones are behind us. Now my opinion could be, because my last three phones have been locked down on Verizon, and my Razr M once unlocked never had great builds. The builds it did have had issues due to bootloader changes and my lack of willingness to downgrade the bootloader once other changes were made. As I recall. Still excited to see Nougat coming at least.
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Well since Verizon just got rid of 2 year contracts for everyone so no subsidized phones I won't buy another carrier phone. My wife has the pixel xl and loves it. I will be going Google not so much for the unlocked bootloader more for immediate updates. Screw carrier and manufacturer taking forever to update or decide not to update (Droid Maxx 5.1 I'm looking at you).

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Well since Verizon just got rid of 2 year contracts for everyone so no subsidized phones I won't buy another carrier phone. My wife has the pixel xl and loves it. I will be going Google not so much for the unlocked bootloader more for immediate updates. Screw carrier and manufacturer taking forever to update or decide not to update (Droid Maxx 5.1 I'm looking at you).
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Yup. Every single phone I have had has been in the Droid Line (HTC Included). No more!! Not after this phone runs dry.

Is this Bogus?
This has to be bogus, right? Why don't I see this thread on XDA?
http://www.android-nougat.tech/2016/11/motorola-droid-turbo-2-7713.html

my2cents said:
This has to be bogus, right? Why don't I see this thread on XDA?
http://www.android-nougat.tech/2016/11/motorola-droid-turbo-2-7713.html
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yeah that's a fake website, you can easily tell because none of the other links works (Home, contact us, etc..)

https://twitter.com/Moto_GER/status/826802898512314368

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https://twitter.com/Moto_GER/status/826802898512314368
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For F*** sake.
Delayed until May?
Seriously?
Since Lenovo bought moto it's just going downhill.
Top range phone for £500 and need to wait 6 months for update. This is a joke.

TeddyBeers said:
For F*** sake.
Delayed until May?
Seriously?
Since Lenovo bought moto it's just going downhill.
Top range phone for £500 and need to wait 6 months for update. This is a joke.
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Do You think we will get 7.1.1? LOL, so it is 9 months. This is my first and last Moto.

Xetmes said:
Do You think we will get 7.1.1? LOL, so it is 9 months. This is my first and last Moto.
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Yeah.
Q4 2018

romma1 said:
Looks like some good news may really be coming (Nougat)...
http://www.gsmarena.com/nougat_upda...es_bluetooth_sig_certification-news-22523.php
Looks like the Motorola Droid Turbo 2 will soon get Nougat as the Android 7.0 update for the handset (model number XT1585) has been certified by the Bluetooth Special Interest Group (SIG).
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How does the Bluetooth SIG certification affect my phone?
I use Bluetooth with my truck and some earbuds...... I don't see where I would see extra functionality.

Does not affect your phone. It's just a way how info about update leaks. Every phone/update needs to pass certification before is released.
Sent from my Moto X Force

New to moto z play

Hey everyone
I had purchased moto z pay about two weeks ago ,great experience but i have some questions about some issues with the handset just to make sure it's normal or what :
1- when making a phone call i hear some strong hissing(buzzing as some says)in total it's another sound besides the voice of the other guys on phone , not a very quit voice as i used to in any mobile , is that normal ? is it soothing related with my phone carrier service or 4G or 3G stuff?
2- when applying style shell- which are very awesome - i can found out that it could be moved a little if swipe it in left or right around camera lens something like little shaky or moving, not just stick to the handset and ever never moved unless you remove it , is that normal K i was told it is at seller but you guys have it so is it normal ?
last thing is just a question and not an issue
Motorola is giving full support and update to the mobile even if it was like 4 or 5 years later , in other word how long i will be get the latest android updates for life time of the handset or maybe 3 years and will get bored and it is out ?
that's everything i want to know till now , if i had any issues i will post it here
so thank you guys so much for your help and patience
many regards

Updates? Maybe 3 or 4 years. It's Z modell, so I think we should get updates very long. But I don't know.

1. I think it's your carrier problem. which carrier are you using?
2. If it's never removed unless you remove it, it's ok.
3. Not 3 years! It's a very long time period.
Device is currently running 7.0 and company representative confirmed that it will get 7.1.1 soon And according to sources It'll definetly receive Android 8 in 2017 only.
Cheers!

Are you sure that's android 7.1.1? Maybe it's 7.1.2

allrightlite said:
Updates? Maybe 3 or 4 years. It's Z modell, so I think we should get updates very long. But I don't know.
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that's satisfied, thank you so much

Yash24 said:
1. I think it's your carrier problem. which carrier are you using?
2. If it's never removed unless you remove it, it's ok.
3. Not 3 years! It's a very long time period.
Device is currently running 7.0 and company representative confirmed that it will get 7.1.1 soon And according to sources It'll definetly receive Android 8 in 2017 only.
Cheers!
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that's what i want to hear in points 2 and 3 so thank you so much
but for point 1 , I tried to remove sim and made a call on messenger and i get same issue so i think it's not a something related with my carrier but with in call stereo
so what is that? i tried to reset and disabling all sound boosts but nothing changed

mohmyo said:
that's satisfied, thank you so much
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But I don't know. Nothing is sure. But you can later use custom roms very good on this phone, if there are really no updates anymore. But I don't know the update plans, just that we can expect all update to android O and all other we must be wait and see. But I think so because it's not a cheap phone. And because the Moto G4(much cheaper and older phone) get android O, too. So, Moto Z modells should, too. And security patches at least for 3 years. All other would not be nice from motorola.

allrightlite said:
Updates? Maybe 3 or 4 years. It's Z modell, so I think we should get updates very long. But I don't know.
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Z is a Flagship series and every company tries to provide updates faster in their Flagship devices.
Also, Acc to sources Z Series will be the first to get Android O.

Oreo update starts rolling out today!

Good news guys Looks like Google is giving us treats for the holiday season.
https://www.gsmarena.com/android_wear_devices_to_get_oreo_update_starting_today-news-28614.php
I'm guessing that every watch that is supported by AW2.0 will also be getting Oreo update. Yes, original Huawei watch is already beyond the 2 year support period but i don't think that the same rules goes for watches like it's usually the case with phones. Do you think original HW will be getting Oreo? I mean, we got new security update some days ago so it's still supported

I hope so,waiting for the update in a month.

In comments on articles about this, people have been reporting even the original Moto 360 is already getting this. I'm not sure the relationship between android version and android wear code but maybe it's pretty easy to merge the Oreo updates with the manufacturer's code now that they are on AW 2.0.

jdock said:
In comments on articles about this, people have been reporting even the original Moto 360 is already getting this. I'm not sure the relationship between android version and android wear code but maybe it's pretty easy to merge the Oreo updates with the manufacturer's code now that they are on AW 2.0.
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The original moto 360 never even made it to android wear 2.0, so I highly doubt it is getting this update.
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Good news guys Looks like Google is giving us treats for the holiday season.
https://www.gsmarena.com/android_wear_devices_to_get_oreo_update_starting_today-news-28614.php
I'm guessing that every watch that is supported by AW2.0 will also be getting Oreo update. Yes, original Huawei watch is already beyond the 2 year support period but i don't think that the same rules goes for watches like it's usually the case with phones. Do you think original HW will be getting Oreo? I mean, we got new security update some days ago so it's still supported
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The fact that we got a security update doesn't mean much. There were some pretty high profile vulnerabilities that needed patching (KRACK, etc.).

TheSt33v said:
The original moto 360 never even made it to android wear 2.0, so I highly doubt it is getting this update.
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Oh sheesh... so that particular comment was meant as a joke that went right over my head!

How can i return to the stock rom and unroot the device? Or just to return to the stock with the ota updates. Thanks im on the negalite now...

vuoshino said:
How can i return to the stock rom and unroot the device? Or just to return to the stock with the ota updates. Thanks im on the negalite now...
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Follow this video: https://youtu.be/qVrBEmi35-E
Files are on his server.
I accidentally installed AW 1.4 but received updates to update so now I'm on AW 2.6 A7.1.1 october patch

Don't expect it for this device.
Just read on an Android Wear g+ community that it is only coming for the Huawei watch 2.
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL

Yep we're screwed... Here's the official list

jeston said:
Yep we're screwed... Here's the official list
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That sucks :/ I kinda knew this would happen eventhough i was optimistic and hopeful that Huawei Watch still gets it. So, it's finally the end of software support for our beloved original HW **** you, you ugly ass HW2!

Can someone explain this End Of Life situation though...? The Huawei Watch is STILL on sale via Huawei's direct website! Surely they shouldn't be selling a watch without providing the software support seriously!? I thought the deal was 2 years after the device goes on sale or 18 months after it stops being on sale (whichever is longer).
I think this statement needs to be reiterated to Huawei and Google.
Also I bought the watch thinking the support life would be alot longer than a phone... People don't buy +£200 watches for only 2 years usage.
This "policy" may have just made me decide that I'm not interested in Android Wear anymore... Even my Pixel 2 will have a longer shelf life!

EOL is not here yet, just no Oreo. This is near the bottom of the article.
Some of the watches dropped from support include the ASUS ZenWatch 2 and 3, the original Fossil Q Founder, the LG G Watch R/Urbane/Urbane LTE, the second-gen Moto 360 and 360 Sport, and the original Huawei Watch. Those watches will continue to get Android Wear updates (like the recent v2.6 update) through the Play Store, but the underlying Android version will be stuck on Nougat.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/12/09/google-announces-android-wear-watches-will-get-oreo-update/

Surely there will be a way to install as a custom Rom?

tboy2000 said:
Surely there will be a way to install as a custom Rom?
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The only one for the HW1 is discontinued. The dev's watch died and Huawei gave him a watch 2. If another dev steps up, yes, but since there was only one and that dev does not plan to continue.

The thing is I only love the look of HV1 watch. Most stylish. There is no other V2 watch out there that comes close.
I have a Huawei Mate 10 running Oreo so it's a shame my watch won't match my phone.

Custom ROMs are our only hope now!

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Custom ROMs are our only hope now!
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Well actually, just staying on wear 2 isn't a bad option, it still works wonderfully.

I agree. The more that Huawei Watch (1) is still officially on sale and is more expensive in stores than Huawei Watch 2.

I've made a post on their Swedish FB-site, here in Sweden it is still actively sold by two of Huawei's recommended resellers advertised at Huawei's site.
Can we figure out if the 18 months after sale claim is valid for Wear as well as regular Android? And was this formulated before or after the launch of the Watch?

I spoke to Huawei Technical Service. They do not have anywhere indicated that they provide support for 18 months from purchase / production. They claim that it depends on Google - not from them. They do not guarantee anything
It's a pity, because I have their P9 Plus smartphone and Watch 1 smartwatch and I think it makes the highest-class flagship.

No Android Pie for Moto G5+ and rest of the G5 series. WIll you still trust Motorola?

Source: https://blog.motorola.com/2018/08/15/baked-android-pie-coming-motorola/
One of the few reasons i buy a Motorola was quick android updates. Motorola actually promised Android Oreo and Android P when it comes out for this phone. 1 year later still there is no specific date for Oreo update. While i unlocked the phone long ago and updated it to 8.1 via custom ROMS i still paid for software support which was included in the phones cost. . If possible we can start a petition on change.org ( Which will be useless as motorola anyway treats their customers as trash) Share your thoughts

Firstly, Motorola is out of its minds. They should first give an update to Oreo and then speak of Pie. Nokia and many other devices that launched long after last year's Moto G series are already running Oreo from months. Lenovo took Motorola from Google and turned it into ****.
Secondly, Motorola said that their devices would get only one major Android update, so I'm fine with it. But what's troubling is the amount of time they're taking for it. Having said this, finally I'd like to add that though Moto devices have suffered on the software side in Lenovo's hands, I didn't find any shortcomings even on nougat and didn't really feel like needing an update. My phone gets all the things done. The only thing that I miss is a 64 bit architecture that'd allow me to gain access to portrait mode on Google camera and make the device future proof, as Google will remove all the 32 bit apps from the play store soon. The only reason I still prefer to buy the Moto devices is the XDA community. But if Moto continues releasing 32 bit os on a 64 bit chipset, then I may as well go for Mi devices because they get excellent XDA support too.

Short Answer: No
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I only ever bought a Moto phone because it was cheap. While I usually don't care for the latest and the greatest in neither software or hardware (still rockin a IPod Touch 4th gen) How Moto is treating it's customers is awful.
I know all about planned obsolescence, but this seems like a new level. Purposely delaying a promised software patch for your flagship until after your new flagship comes out (that conveniently ships with the promised software from the last one, mind you) Then maybe focusing on bringing that software to the old phone. Waiting just long enough to make sure everyone buys the new one.
If you don't believe me, this will probably happen again with the G6/Plus/Z/Z Play. The Android P update will get delayed and delayed until, eventually, a new Android is released. And, surprise, along with it, a new flagship that you will inevitably force people to buy while promising the new software.
It's a circle, people.

Motorola might be a good company before lenovo bought it .. But now OMG ..now i think why in the f****ing hell i chose Lenovo's Motorola ...FFS ...Everything about it's Software side is so **** !!\
So i don't think it's even worth it .. they won't change!!

I have owned and used the Moto G2, G3, G4, and now the G5+. The same complaints have been posted in these forums with every device. Personally, I don't care about upgrades to new versions of Android. As long as my phone performs well, which it does and is reliable, which it is I am content. My G5+ does everything well that I want it to do and then some. So I have no complaints.
As far as what I buy in the future, I will make that decision when the time comes. And yes, I will consider Motorola's latest offerings.

Motorola told us last year the Moto G line will get 1 major OS update.
And Oreo is being tested so just be patient or flash a custom rom.

They never promised Android P for the phone, only Android Oreo

For those saying Lenovo kileed motorola, Google was going to kill Motorola and Lenovo saved it, so stop blaming them, Motorola was a dead company

I wanted a device that was reasonably priced, close to stock, good developer community. I think I got that. So potter's not getting Pie? It wasn't promised, so there's no issue of 'trust' there. Oreo? Well OK that's late as anything. I did know at the time I bought it that Motorola was now slow to update. I bought mine around September last year, and was surprised when it auto-updated to I think the August patch. Since then, software updates have been patchy (pun intended).
Another consideration is in NZ, there's only a handful of open network phones available. Motorola, Oppo, Huawei, and you might find a few others if you're willing to go to parallel import shops etc. So with that in mind, it kinda makes the choice obvious for me. Nokia? In NZ they're network-specific, and on a network that I don't use. So yeah, I'll stick with Motorola. G6 Plus is available for us, which is a good thing. Although, I'll hang onto this for a couple of years, so I'd likely skip the Gen 6 motos.