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I am on rooted 51.1.1.0_user_511070220 (last rootable version), with the dcp amazon update disabled.
I would like to do a clean move to the unlocked bootloader, clockworkmod, latest rbox custom rom, and then finally playstore.
I have the following questions, and would like to get it clarified before I start the procedure.
1. In order to unlock the bootloader and then install clockworkmod I follow this:
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-install-clockworkmod-custom-recovery-on-the-amazon-fire-tv/
2. I want to do a clean install. So, which things I have to wipe in clockworkmod?
3. After wipe, I install the rom using:
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-install-a-custom-rom-image-on-the-amazon-fire-tv/
My question is - in step 2, if I wipe everything, how do I get the rom image on to the fire tv. Or, do you recommend that a wipe is NOT necessary?
Also, in this case, do I have to do the disable dcp amazon update again?
4. Also, where can I find the latest playstore apks? I am thinking of going with this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/help-install-google-playstore-t2933189
Thanks.
OK since no one replied I did NOT wipe.
Downgraded, unlocked boot loader, installed cwm, installed custom ROM. Works great. Thank you rbox.
My SuperSU now cannot be started. I can't uninstall/reinstall it either via apk. I read that few others have this problem as well.
Once I get that fixed, next is play store.
Thanks.
deepasadish said:
OK since no one replied I did NOT wipe.
Downgraded, unlocked boot loader, installed cwm, installed custom ROM. Works great. Thank you rbox.
My SuperSU now cannot be started. I can't uninstall/reinstall it either via apk. I read that few others have this problem as well.
Once I get that fixed, next is play store.
Thanks.
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No one replied most likely because all your questions have been answered in the various threads about them.
And yes, currently the SuperUser can't be opened, but seems to work just fine. Do you need to go into it's settings? It shouldn't be holding you back from installing or doing anything.
nyder said:
No one replied most likely because all your questions have been answered in the various threads about them.
And yes, currently the SuperUser can't be opened, but seems to work just fine. Do you need to go into it's settings? It shouldn't be holding you back from installing or doing anything.
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Sorry I have read almost every post and can't find info about the wipe. Anyways I will do that later as it is not important right now.
Regarding SuperSU, yes I can't open it. I only have the force stop, clear cache, clear data options for it. Obviously I can't uninstall and reinstall it either. I downloaded the SuperSU zip, but decided against flashing it in cwm.
Having said that, I do think I have root. When I type su in adb I do get root and see the message root granted on the screen. However it is not asking me whether to give su permission or not.
edit - i did clear data for supersu and then if I type su in adb, then i get the popup. so, i guess it was just remembering previous settings and granted automatically. i still can't open supersu though. thanks.
Here's the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/supersu-t2926119.
You can download a different version of su. (Direct download link is in the thread.) This is not the chainfire version. This version will open, allow you to set defaults, etc. Be aware that the screen is very low contrast and hard to read. You need to look carefully.
BTW, both versions seem to coexist peacefully.
I recall that installing SuperSU on the HTC10 was originally a special case. Due to the encryption it used, originally flashing SuperSU onto the HTC10 would break the cellular radio, eventually SuperSU was updated to fix this.
I want to know if Magisk is in the same boat, or it could break your radio too like SuperSU used to, or if the way it works does not cause this issue on the HTC10.
And if so, can it be installed in place of SuperSU without having to wipe/reset your data?
I haven't used Magisk so I can't speak from experience.
However:
1) I know in the ICE Rom thread, that users have recently asked for an aroma option not to have SU installed (or PHH SU installed rather than SuperSU) so they can more easily get Magisk working.
2) Secondly, the original developer of Magisk has a HTC 10.
It's a pretty safe bet to say Magisk works if you follow the instructions...
Nearly all the instructions recommend wiping your data though, and that's not an option for me.
the Dev from Magisk has a HTC10 as main device ^^
so Magisk works flawless (except maybe sprint/verizon).
Super Su is not recommended anyway, as you can read on post Nr 2.
i've been using phh's SU for a while now and havent had a single issue.
AFAIK you dont have to wipe data but restore Stock System (Image) and kernel.
stock boot.img is important to wipe the Ramdisk.
I am already on the stock rom, all I originally did was unlock the bootloader then flash SuperSU, I never flashed a custom rom.
Works fine for me!
Works great for me on Leedroid.
1) Full unroot with SuperSU (don't restore anything)
2) Flash Magisk
3) Flash PHH root
4) Install Magisk Manager
5) Install PHH SuperUser
How is Magisk better than systemless SuperSU ?
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How is Magisk better than systemless SuperSU ?
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Its not to say one is better than the either.....
To put it in VERY simple terms (There is much more to it)
Magisk is a utility for rooted related mounts and SElinux permissive status. It allows all mods to be truly systemless. It also allows rooted users to still have the ability to utilize Android Pay. You can read MUCH more at http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/mod-magisk-v1-universal-systemless-t3432382
To use Magisk effectively at this point, you need PHH SuperSU.
Magisk, systemless xposed, phh supersu are all under the same umbrella and are designed to be used together.
It works perfect for me on the HTC 10 with the multiple ROMS, including stock, that I have tested. I have used SUPERSU for as long as I remember, but in this case, the modified chainfire supersu did not work smoothly for me in the systemless magisk envionrment. Gotta give thanks to both topjohnwu, PHH and chainfire alike!
Does anyone know if you use magisk will that allow you to take ota updates from HTC or will the ota updates not work using magisk either ? Another question if anyone knows I have an Unlocked HTC 10 but may get the new Marlin due out being made by Htc so I am also wondering if magisk will work and you still get your updates from Google using magisk. I just thought maybe someone one here might know rather than try to go through tons of pages on that thread itself. I am hoping so as that would rock if you could still get your ota updates and have root too using magisk.
By the way, why did you say I might have problems if I am on Sprint?
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Nearly all the instructions recommend wiping your data though, and that's not an option for me.
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they say it's recommended.
this is my experience ce seting up Magisk on a LG g4 (h811) running Resurrection Remix, and super su. I have an unlocked bootloader.
my main concern was maintaining viper4android (originally installed with arise (I don't remember the version))
I downloaded all the files for magisk plus the rom (resurrection remix official, just in case I needed to start clean)
I booted into twrp, made a complete backup (system would have been enough, but safety first)
I then rebooted into Android and backed up viper4android from /system/priv-app/. removed the following, super su binary, super su app, busybox/app, Viper driver then the app, and a few other root apps installed to system (I simply deleted the apk from /system/app and /system/priv-app)
now I rebooted back into Android, once booted I rebooted into recovery
and installed all Magisk requirements, and then Magisk viper4android mod.
and finally wiped cache and dalvik/art
now I shut down for about 30 minutes (phone got too hot) stupid snapdragon 808
booted back into Android, opened play and installed the Super user needed for Magisk.
now I open kernel adiutor and allow su access (need to turn off cpus 3-6)
Now I open play and install Google pay and safetynet playground.
now I open Magisk manager, and disable root.
Open play I add my cards fine.
I exit play, and open safetynet playground and check, it passes.
now I enable root again.
I install the Viper I backed up earlier as a user app, and try and use it. Nope it's trying to Install the driver. I cancel and remove it and install the official Viper.
it works fine (remember I already installed the Viper Magisk mod earlier)
Now I'm golden.
Now I never cleared my data, but I did clear dalvik/art and cache.
the only part of arise that I changed was the Viper version, I removed arise version of viper from /system/priv-app and installed the official Viper as a user app)
in all I'm just saying make a backup and try without wiping data.
I chose to wipe dalvik/art and cache because of the major change on the device.
This may or may not work for hboot lock devices. (I'm using a LG g4 (h811))
the release thread does say you need an unlocked bootloader
Hello everyone,
As I'm sure everyone knows, Niantic has blocked rooted phones from playing with the most current update 0.37. I'm wondering if anyone has been able to find a ROM that will work on our phones and we can install magisk to be able to play with the latest update. If not, is there any other possible solution to play with the use of magisk or without giving up root completely. I'm currently running PaulPizz and have not tried any of the possible methods I have found from fear of losing root permanently. I'm open to any suggestions or ideas.
Thank you.
Try going to the Samsung Note 4 international section.. I just flashed a Note 7 port to my wife's phone and it rocks..
Could you possibly link to which one? Is it this one? Xerrum525 N7 FullFramework PortedRom for SM-N910C / SM-N910H
Also did you use magisk with it to use pokemon go?
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Hello everyone,
As I'm sure everyone knows, Niantic has blocked rooted phones from playing with the most current update 0.37. I'm wondering if anyone has been able to find a ROM that will work on our phones and we can install magisk to be able to play with the latest update. If not, is there any other possible solution to play with the use of magisk or without giving up root completely. I'm currently running PaulPizz and have not tried any of the possible methods I have found from fear of losing root permanently. I'm open to any suggestions or ideas.
Thank you.
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I'd like to know too.
What I did was install PaulPizz. Once it finished I deleted the SuperSU folder via TWRP.
It booted up fine, I still had the SU app in my drawer, I did full unroot via SU. I then flashed the uninstall for Xposed and now I can play pogo.
I Haven't been able to get Magisk to work... I get unable to detect boot image. I'm unrooted for now on PaulPizz and can play PoGo 0.37
Tricil said:
Hello everyone,
As I'm sure everyone knows, Niantic has blocked rooted phones from playing with the most current update 0.37. I'm wondering if anyone has been able to find a ROM that will work on our phones and we can install magisk to be able to play with the latest update. If not, is there any other possible solution to play with the use of magisk or without giving up root completely. I'm currently running PaulPizz and have not tried any of the possible methods I have found from fear of losing root permanently. I'm open to any suggestions or ideas.
Thank you.
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I downloaded an older version of the app from http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/niantic-inc/pokemon-go/.
I uninstalled the new version. Reinstalled the older. Ran fine. I've heard they'll force an update sooner or later but its good for now.
I also made sure to turn off auto app updated in settings.
I did find a solution using PaulPizz and magisk. It relatively follows most other tutorials. Plus I found a way to toggle magisk with tasker, if anyone is interested. I'll post a step by step tomorrow or possibly later tonight. Sorry to make everyone wait.
So this is how I got it work with PaulPizz ROM for Verizon Note 4 retail converted to Dev edition.
I take no credit for the creation of the files required for this install, but I kind of muttled my way through this installation and got the files from different posts so credit is to go to the creators of these files, I am just redistributing. If someone feels the need to take credit for these please feel free to let me know.
Make sure to download all apks and zips before and place on sd card before hand to save time. I have also included the uninstaller for magisk version of xposed if you would like, do not use this one during the installation of magisk to remove xposed though.
Only flash xposed and install apk if you still want xposed, if not you can skip those files.
1. Do a full backup of phone using TWRP
2. Go into SuperSU settings and do full unroot
3. Reboot into recovery and mount system partion
4. Go to advanced in recovery and select File explorer
5. Navigate to system and delete .supersu file
6. Flash xposed-uninstaller-20150831-arm.zip and reboot system
7. Install pokemon go 0.37 and make sure it works at this point
8. Reboot into recovery again and flash Magisk-v6.zip, 1473968610260_phh-superuser-17-magisk.zip, and 1473980489208_xposed-v86.5-arm-alt-sdk23-topjohnwu.zip
9. Clear dalvik and cache and reboot system
10. After apps optimize install Magisk manager and Xposed Installer
11. Reboot and enjoy playing the new update. Just use Magisk Manager to turn root on/off at will before or after playing.
I'm going to create the tasker profile tomorrow and post instruction on that once completed to automatically activate Magisk when opening pokemon go.
If there are any questions, I will do my best to answer.
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So this is how I got it work with PaulPizz ROM for Verizon Note 4 retail converted to Dev edition.
I take no credit for the creation of the files required for this install, but I kind of muttled my way through this installation and got the files from different posts so credit is to go to the creators of these files, I am just redistributing. If someone feels the need to take credit for these please feel free to let me know.
Make sure to download all apks and zips before and place on sd card before hand to save time. I have also included the uninstaller for magisk version of xposed if you would like, do not use this one during the installation of magisk to remove xposed though.
Only flash xposed and install apk if you still want xposed, if not you can skip those files.
1. Do a full backup of phone using TWRP
2. Go into SuperSU settings and do full unroot
3. Reboot into recovery and mount system partion
4. Go to advanced in recovery and select File explorer
5. Navigate to system and delete .supersu file
6. Flash xposed-uninstaller-20150831-arm.zip and reboot system
7. Install pokemon go 0.37 and make sure it works at this point
8. Reboot into recovery again and flash Magisk-v6.zip, 1473968610260_phh-superuser-17-magisk.zip, and 1473980489208_xposed-v86.5-arm-alt-sdk23-topjohnwu.zip
9. Clear dalvik and cache and reboot system
10. After apps optimize install Magisk manager and Xposed Installer
11. Reboot and enjoy playing the new update. Just use Magisk Manager to turn root on/off at will before or after playing.
I'm going to create the tasker profile tomorrow and post instruction on that once completed to automatically activate Magisk when opening pokemon go.
If there are any questions, I will do my best to answer.
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I still get unable to detect boot image :/
reggaeton1991 said:
I still get unable to detect boot image :/
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When are you getting that, when you flash the zip or install the apk? I'm guessing that's when you flash the included Magisk_6.zip. You are rooted using the retail to dev on an N910V model? I would maybe backup your current system and restore from before you unrooted and try again possibly.
Tricil said:
When are you getting that, when you flash the zip or install the apk? I'm guessing that's when you flash the included Magisk_6.zip. You are rooted using the retail to dev on an N910V model? I would maybe backup your current system and restore from before you unrooted and try again possibly.
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Yes rooted from retaill to dev on a N910V and yea, I get that when flashing Magisk_6.zip.
I'm factory resetting the rom. Going to ensure I have root from PaulPizz. and then try again. Thank you.
reggaeton1991 said:
Yes rooted from retaill to dev on a N910V and yea, I get that when flashing Magisk_6.zip.
I'm factory resetting the rom. Going to ensure I have root from PaulPizz. and then try again. Thank you.
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After clean install (wipe data, cache, system)
It says after mounting system
Mounting /system(ro), /cache, data
Device platform arm
unable to detect boot image
error 1
idk what to do
reggaeton1991 said:
I still get unable to detect boot image :/
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reggaeton1991 said:
Yes rooted from retaill to dev on a N910V and yea, I get that when flashing Magisk_6.zip.
I'm factory resetting the rom. Going to ensure I have root from PaulPizz. and then try again. Thank you.
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Also, this is my setup, if it helps at all. Please let me know if any of this helps, or if you find another way that works for you. Thank you.
Tricil said:
Also, this is my setup, if it helps at all. Please let me know if any of this helps, or if you find another way that works for you. Thank you.
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Thanks again, it looks like the only difference was that I was on CPF3.r-2.
I tried going back to CPD1 and still no luck.
I appreciate you letting me know.
I used the Kyubi rom and uninstalled root with supersu and installed all of the magisk stuff and it works like a charm. All of the xposed modules work good too with the system less xposed. It takes a while to boot up after flashing magisk and clearing cache but worth it. The buddy system is pretty cool lol
Anyone else only able to MAYBE play on WiFi?
Tricil said:
So this is how I got it work with PaulPizz ROM for Verizon Note 4 retail converted to Dev edition.
I take no credit for the creation of the files required for this install, but I kind of muttled my way through this installation and got the files from different posts so credit is to go to the creators of these files, I am just redistributing. If someone feels the need to take credit for these please feel free to let me know.
Make sure to download all apks and zips before and place on sd card before hand to save time. I have also included the uninstaller for magisk version of xposed if you would like, do not use this one during the installation of magisk to remove xposed though.
Only flash xposed and install apk if you still want xposed, if not you can skip those files.
1. Do a full backup of phone using TWRP
2. Go into SuperSU settings and do full unroot
3. Reboot into recovery and mount system partion
4. Go to advanced in recovery and select File explorer
5. Navigate to system and delete .supersu file
6. Flash xposed-uninstaller-20150831-arm.zip and reboot system
7. Install pokemon go 0.37 and make sure it works at this point
8. Reboot into recovery again and flash Magisk-v6.zip, 1473968610260_phh-superuser-17-magisk.zip, and 1473980489208_xposed-v86.5-arm-alt-sdk23-topjohnwu.zip
9. Clear dalvik and cache and reboot system
10. After apps optimize install Magisk manager and Xposed Installer
11. Reboot and enjoy playing the new update. Just use Magisk Manager to turn root on/off at will before or after playing.
I'm going to create the tasker profile tomorrow and post instruction on that once completed to automatically activate Magisk when opening pokemon go.
If there are any questions, I will do my best to answer.
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Well I have magisk installed but I dont know if the xposed went through entirely it says it flashed ok but according to the installer I don't have xposed installed? What's going on did I do something wrong
Did you remove the old xposed app after the flag and install the new xposed apk also? I think mine did the same, because I forgot to also install the xposed app after flashing the systemless xposed framework.
I was able to full unroot, delete the super su file in twrp. when I flash the Xposed uninstaller it removes the framework but leaves the APk in a form that I can't delete.
If I flash magisk and all the other stuff it goes through fine, but when I try to toggle root off in magisk it turns itself back on within a few seconds. I'm assuming this is because i didn't get Xposed all the way off?
Any ideas? Thanks in advance for the help.
Magisk will refuse to unroot while xposed is still there in the system form. Even a piece of it.
Well now I got Xposed off using tibu before I unroot. Everything installed, systemless Xposed registered as being active, but when I try to toggle root in magisk I get the same thing with it turning itself back on. If I try to request root privileges from an app I am told i have no root.
Ideas?
I have been trying to Google this but am a little confused on all the steps I need to (and don't need to) take at this point, especially since I am a little behind. So I wanted to ask for help on forums, if anyone is willing to give some advice on this.
First of all, I have a Sprint version of the HTC 10. I don't know if that matters or not (I recall back when I was trying to figure out the original Magisk, someone mentioned that a Sprint model HTC 10 could be an issue, but I am not sure why).
Also, so far all I have done in terms of rooting it is:
- Use the HTC Bootloader unlock
- Install TWRP Touch Recovery with the option of not modifying the system partition (From what I understand, this would cause it to be a temporary install that would go away after a reboot, but it seems to have stayed installed)
- Perform backups with TWRP
- Flash the SuperSU zip with TWRP
And... that's it, still on stock ROM and everything, didn't install anything else that depends on root like Xposed or whatever (That wasn't automatically installed by TWRP or SuperSU or something was it?). I am pretty sure root access is working because two of my apps (Titanium Backup and Chase) tried to request it, and I can see those requests in SuperSU, but other apps don't seem to act like I am rooted. Namely, Google Pay.
From what I understand, Google Pay is not supposed to work if you have root due to that SafetyNet API. However, when I start Google Pay, I see no error message or anything, it seems to work. Granted, I haven't added a credit card to it yet, does the error only happen when you try to make a payment or try to add a card or something? Or should I see it on starting the app? Did I somehow inadvertently setup my phone in a way where root is not being detected?
I also seem to be getting conflicting information on how I should install everything. The guide I followed for rooting my phone said to install SuperSU by flashing the zip, not through the app store.... but the guide for Magisk seems to claim to uninstall SuperSU and install phh's Superuser from the app store. Is there a reason I should do this one way, or another?
Also, all the guides for Magisk say that it is heavily recommended that I reset my phone to stock system, and I really can't reset the data on my phone. Can it be done without erasing anything? I am unclear what resetting to "stock system" would do exactly.
It sounds a little too simple: Uninstall SuperSU and install Superuser (though the method I should do it through is not clear), flash Magisk through TWRP, and then flash AutoMagisk through TWRP. I feel like I am definitely forgetting steps. That, and if somehow I am getting past SafetyNet with Android Pay I don't want to mess with something that might break however I managed to pull it off.
Another worry is breaking my cellular radio. I remember that SuperSU for a while did something (or rather, didn't do something with encryption that the HTC 10 needed which resulted in the cellular radio not working once it was flashed, and that for a while there was a special fork of SuperSU for HTC 10 phones to fix this until the main SuperSU app implemented it. I have no idea if Superuser or Magisk also could cause this issue. Does anyone have any idea?
Oh, and finally, my phone is complaining that an update is available, has been complaining for a while, update 1.80.651.6. Can I safely install this OTA update while rooted? Will it remove or break root if I do? And would it be recommended to install it now before I mess with Superuser and Magisk, or after?
Ummm, anyone?
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Ummm, anyone?
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Its all there in the op of the magisk thread.
I read that thread, as I said, I still don't understand some parts.
Cyber Akuma said:
Ummm, anyone?
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Have you tried posting in the dedicated Magisk thread?
Try installing leedroid nightly latest it has magisk available when you install rom
i did not try it, till now. I read something a few weeks ago.
But in the magisk thread the op said something that SuperSu is not the supported SU method? only phh superuser?!
I would ask the question in magisk thread.
Firstly: You ask a lot of semi-related questions, a lot of these are already answered, out there, in the appropriate threads.
Let me systematically try to answer your questions
What you have done:
- Use the HTC Bootloader unlock
- Install TWRP Touch Recovery with the option of not modifying the system partition (From what I understand, this would cause it to be a temporary install that would go away after a reboot, but it seems to have stayed installed)
- Perform backups with TWRP
- Flash the SuperSU zip with TWRP
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When you install the TWRP recovery, you actually install it to the recovery partition of your device.
the option the "not modify system" has nothing to do with installing TWRP, but with installing other mods/roms
It's there so you can make a backup without modifying the system partition, that way you can go back to a working isntall if you do happen to mess something up.
And... that's it, still on stock ROM and everything, didn't install anything else that depends on root like Xposed or whatever (That wasn't automatically installed by TWRP or SuperSU or something was it?). I am pretty sure root access is working because two of my apps (Titanium Backup and Chase) tried to request it, and I can see those requests in SuperSU, but other apps don't seem to act like I am rooted. Namely, Google Pay.
From what I understand, Google Pay is not supposed to work if you have root due to that SafetyNet API. However, when I start Google Pay, I see no error message or anything, it seems to work. Granted, I haven't added a credit card to it yet, does the error only happen when you try to make a payment or try to add a card or something? Or should I see it on starting the app? Did I somehow inadvertently setup my phone in a way where root is not being detected?
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SuperSu *should* break safetney and thus should break android pay, as Chainfire says in the following thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/supersu-safetynet-android-pay-t3298115
"In case any SuperSU-rooted device passes SafetyNet, that is a bug in SafetyNet, not a feature of SuperSU."
I also seem to be getting conflicting information on how I should install everything. The guide I followed for rooting my phone said to install SuperSU by flashing the zip, not through the app store.... but the guide for Magisk seems to claim to uninstall SuperSU and install phh's Superuser from the app store. Is there a reason I should do this one way, or another?
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Installing SuperSu trough TWRP installs the dependencies (the actual root) and the application (which just manages the root access), the magisk guide tells you to first flash the preferred root (SuperSu or SuperUser phh's) trough recovery and then install the correct manager app trough the playstore.
This is probably so John doesn't have to keep on updating his zips everytime the makers of the manager apps update their apps, users can just download the latest version.
Also, all the guides for Magisk say that it is heavily recommended that I reset my phone to stock system, and I really can't reset the data on my phone. Can it be done without erasing anything? I am unclear what resetting to "stock system" would do exactly.
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Resetting to stock is important for 2 reasons:
1. it cleans out all "old" root apps and methods
2. it cleans up a patched boot.img (kernel)
Then again, if you haven't flashed any other mods, you would probably be safe to install magisk on your rom.
One important thing everyone will always tell you: make a backup! (make a nandroid)
To do this, boot to TWRP and choose "backup" make sure to select: Boot, System and Data
It sounds a little too simple: Uninstall SuperSU and install Superuser (though the method I should do it through is not clear), flash Magisk through TWRP, and then flash AutoMagisk through TWRP. I feel like I am definitely forgetting steps. That, and if somehow I am getting past SafetyNet with Android Pay I don't want to mess with something that might break however I managed to pull it off.
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The proper steps would be:
0. Make a nandroid backup in TWRP!!
1. Open SuperSU and choose to completly unroot (somewhere near the bottom of the settings menu)
2. Boot to TWRP and flash Magisk
3. Flash the phhh superuser zip file (from the magisk thread)
4. boot android and install the superuser app from the playstore
5. boot twrp and install AutoMagisk
That's it!
Another worry is breaking my cellular radio. I remember that SuperSU for a while did something (or rather, didn't do something with encryption that the HTC 10 needed which resulted in the cellular radio not working once it was flashed, and that for a while there was a special fork of SuperSU for HTC 10 phones to fix this until the main SuperSU app implemented it. I have no idea if Superuser or Magisk also could cause this issue. Does anyone have any idea?
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Radio shouldn't be broken unless you flash very old zips, don't worry about it
Oh, and finally, my phone is complaining that an update is available, has been complaining for a while, update 1.80.651.6. Can I safely install this OTA update while rooted? Will it remove or break root if I do? And would it be recommended to install it now before I mess with Superuser and Magisk, or after?
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I allmost enver use official OTA's so I can't say for certain buttttt as you used SuperSU, the root should be systemless so it should accept OTA updates..
What I would do:
1. make a nandroid
2. install OTA
3. See if everything works as expected
4. restore backup if something doesnt work properly =D
I would install the OTA before trying Magisk
Thank you, that was very helpful. I did try Googling all this, but couldn't find clear answers, which is why I am asking here.
And yes, I am definitely going to make a backup before messing with it. Is there any reason to make a Titanium backup too, or will the nandroid one be enough?
As for removing SuperSU, what would that system/boot stock reset delete? Would it delete any installed applications or application settings? Or undo updates to pre-installed system apps? Or reinstall apps that came with the phone that I uninstalled?
Got it working, thanks. (Though, AutoMagisk seems to only be available as an APK, not as a zip that can be installed from TWRP).
Seems like a few configuration settings got wiped due to the system partition being reset, but other than that most of my data seems perfectly intact.
Hello everyone!
I want to root my phone, but have some question before starting the process, because something maybe will not work as expected.
1. The main propose of my root is to install Cerberus as system app, wich will protect the app from a hard reset;
2. I want to remove some useless apps, like lens, google files, and others (I have found some posts with is safe to disable/remove);
3. I want to integrate the app's updates the phone receives after setting an account. I have used Link2SD on previous phones;
4. MAYBE I will install Butterfly For Daisy (the multitasking is annoying!!), so, maybe I'll install Kernel Auditior as system app.
5. I'll NOT use custom ROM, I'll keep Android One experience for now.
So, as far I read, to complete the root process, I have to disable encryption on phone. The problem is: i use 4 accounts on my phone, one of them is a Google App one, wich means when I configure it, it will ask to encrypt my phone. Google Apps accounts ALWAYS use encryption on my organization, is mandatory. So...
A. Can I root without disable encryption?
B. Can I just boot TWRP to root, without permanently install it?
C. I'll have phone updates problems with questions 1, 2, 3 and 4 above?
D. Will a Google App account work on a rooted phone with Magisk for Mi A2 Lite?
E. Magisk Manager will be installed as system app or user app? Because Cerberus will use root. If I reset the phone, I'll lose Magisk Manager if it is installed as user, so Cerberus will not get root permissions and will not work properly.
Thank you in advice, and sorry for tons of questions.
romulocarlos said:
A. Can I root without disable encryption?
B. Can I just boot TWRP to root, without permanently install it?
C. I'll have phone updates problems with questions 1, 2, 3 and 4 above?
D. Will a Google App account work on a rooted phone with Magisk for Mi A2 Lite?
E. Magisk Manager will be installed as system app or user app? Because Cerberus will use root. If I reset the phone, I'll lose Magisk Manager if it is installed as user, so Cerberus will not get root permissions and will not work properly.
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A. Magisk/root works fine with encryption.
B. Don't use TWRP to root. But you can boot it without installing (fastboot boot image.img)
C. Follow the process in the Magisk guide thread to install OTAs.
D. No idea
E. User app. It gives itself root via Magisk.
If you modify the system image you'll have a much harder time doing OTAs. You must have unmodified partitions to install OTAs. I do this to get a dark bootanim, but for install/remove system apps you'd be much better off to use Magisk modules. There's modules for both systemizing apps and hiding system apps.
a1291762 said:
A. Magisk/root works fine with encryption.
B. Don't use TWRP to root. But you can boot it without installing (fastboot boot image.img)
C. Follow the process in the Magisk guide thread to install OTAs.
D. No idea
E. User app. It gives itself root via Magisk.
If you modify the system image you'll have a much harder time doing OTAs. You must have unmodified partitions to install OTAs. I do this to get a dark bootanim, but for install/remove system apps you'd be much better off to use Magisk modules. There's modules for both systemizing apps and hiding system apps.
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Thank you.
A. OK, I'll try soon
B. Ok, I'll use it to take a full backup before start the process
C. You mean your guide or BubuXP's? In fact, BubuXP's seems easier to do!
D. Let's cross fingers...
E. Can I convert it to system? Like I sayed, Cerberus will need root after a reset. Without Manager, I'll not see the warning to grant root access, don't?
I'll search for these modules. Thank you.
romulocarlos said:
C. You mean your guide or BubuXP's?
E. Can I convert it to system? Like I sayed, Cerberus will need root after a reset. Without Manager, I'll not see the warning to grant root access, don't?
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C. If you just have Magisk, use bubuxps guide. My guide is if you have magisk and twrp and want to do otas. It's mostly the same, with extra steps.
E. Magisk Manager does not need to be a system app. It won't help you if it lives on /system and Magisk gets removed.
Factory reset doesn't touch boot so I guess if you intend to do factory reset often it might be useful to put apps on system. But by doing so, you'll make it much harder to take OTAs.
To take an OTA you'll need to flash the original system, apply the ota then apply your system changes again. If you're upgrading to a release without fastboot images you'll want to take a backup of system before you modify it.
It might even be worthwhile only upgrading to fastboot releases because you'll have the backup and can modify the images before you flash them, avoiding booting without your customizations.
a1291762 said:
C. If you just have Magisk, use bubuxps guide. My guide is if you have magisk and twrp and want to do otas. It's mostly the same, with extra steps.
E. Magisk Manager does not need to be a system app. It won't help you if it lives on /system and Magisk gets removed.
Factory reset doesn't touch boot so I guess if you intend to do factory reset often it might be useful to put apps on system. But by doing so, you'll make it much harder to take OTAs.
To take an OTA you'll need to flash the original system, apply the ota then apply your system changes again. If you're upgrading to a release without fastboot images you'll want to take a backup of system before you modify it.
It might even be worthwhile only upgrading to fastboot releases because you'll have the backup and can modify the images before you flash them, avoiding booting without your customizations.
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Thank you again. But...
C. I used BubuXP's guide. Works well. I just need an updated "Disable-Force-Encryption-Treble.zip", because it install an older version of Magisk, and I need encryption disabled to make backups, as TWRP can't make backup on /data.
E. Well, Magisk itself won't be removed after a reset, but if Magisk Manager is removed, how an app will get root permissions? The warning about the permissions comes from Magisk Manager, not from Magisk itself (the one on boot), don't?
And, yes, I want some apps on /system, as Cerberus, for example. I'll put the updates on /system, also. It makes easier to handle the phone after a reset. I don't mind too much to OTAs, as we can download the whole ROM and flash it as I need.
EDIT: don't need an updated "disable-force-encription". Just installed lastest Magisk version in TWRP after disable-force-encription.