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i got my new asus zenfone2 ze551ml should i root?

title says it all thanks

Do you want to use anything that requires root? Then yes. You don't? Then no.
I personally do use apps that require root, plus I enjoy having full control over my phones, so I immediately root, unlock the bootloader, and install a custom recovery. But that's not for everyone.

Just use it for a week and see if there's any functionality you miss. Or to put it a different way: when in doubt, no.

well i use xmod b4 but now i cant even if i root my phone cos its x86 i have htc desire x b4 rooted.
but this fone i see a lot of threads "UNOFFICIAL" on rooting, unlocking bootloader, rom and etc... so im 50/50 i dont
want to brick this phone even if its cheap..

t0per666 said:
well i use xmod b4 but now i cant even if i root my phone cos its x86 i have htc desire x b4 rooted.
but this fone i see a lot of threads "UNOFFICIAL" on rooting, unlocking bootloader, rom and etc... so im 50/50 i dont
want to brick this phone even if its cheap..
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its your choice but i personally would...and the unofficial methods work perfectly fine..im getting the 4GB RAM variant today and as soon as i get it im rooting, unlocking bootloader ,installing my Xposed Modules and stuff.

Depends on why you'd want to root. I like tinkering and using Adaway, so it was a no brainer for me.

smokinjoe2122 said:
Depends on why you'd want to root. I like tinkering and using Adaway, so it was a no brainer for me.
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adaway is always a must for me when I root its the very first thing I install lol

Its your choice. Like what others mentioned. Depends on what you need.

YES. The bloatware is ridiculous. I'm probably going to write a tutorial on how to do everything start to finish if you're buying a new 551. Not that bad if you have all the files. Really easy, but good grief, are all the tutorials out there now confusing. Most don't even tell you, you need to downgrade... Took me hours to figure it out. Finally, have a debloated rom, root, and busybox installed so I can install Kali Linux

Yeah the bloatwares! But i think im gonna wait till android m has been released thanks all?

t0per666 said:
Yeah the bloatwares! But i think im gonna wait till android m has been released thanks all��
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Same, I am going to wait until Android M as well. I found that when you root phones b4 they get their "improved" stock firmware, the modem/wifi/bluetooth never seem to flash the same and are always buggy. I am being careful with this phone because it works quite good minus the terrible battery life, but on my OnePlus One, I found a 40% increase in battery life even on the early early Android M roms. Seeing that there is no roms even being worked on for 6.0, I am going to play it safe...after all, some of the bloat can be removed without root. Of course not the annoying ones though

djfirestorm said:
Seeing that there is no roms even being worked on for 6.0, I am going to play it safe...
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Wrong. Better than just being worked on, an alpha of CM13 has been released today.

kanagawaben said:
Wrong. Better than just being worked on, an alpha of CM13 has been released today.
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Yep that literally posted about the same time I made the comment lol. But having official firmware for Android M built by ASUS themselves, then having it customized by Asus would be better. I do not mean to insult CM, but I have yet to see a truly stable version of their software. Every phone I have had has shown to have issues with CM based roms. It's not the guys customizing the roms, its just the fact that CM is more universal and not necessarily developed for this specific phone by the original coders. Modded code always has issues, and if it comes out perfect, I hope these big companies pay whoever mods it to perfection and gives them a phat paying job. I want ZenUI, its one of the best non AOSP UI out there IMOP. I only want root to clean out the extras I don't want/need. It has more customization than a phone needs for the most part.

I am waiting also.
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About to recieve a OnePlus 3. Anything I should need to know?

I bought this device today.
I got it because I wanted to get into custom ROMs/Root.
Is there anything I need to know about this phone that will be helpful? Tips & Tricks?
Also I hear talk of Lineage OS vs Oxygen. Which is better and why? (Please don't be LINEAGE OF COURSE FTW, I want reasons. Couldn't find that anywhere)
Should I chose Oxygen beta 8.0, or the Lineage beta for 8.0?
Coming from an LG V10 (AT&T) where I couldn't modify it for ****, and broke after a little over a year (LG Bootloop issue)

ZVNexus said:
I bought this device today.
I got it because I wanted to get into custom ROMs/Root.
Is there anything I need to know about this phone that will be helpful? Tips & Tricks?
Also I hear talk of Lineage OS vs Oxygen. Which is better and why? (Please don't be LINEAGE OF COURSE FTW, I want reasons. Couldn't find that anywhere)
Should I chose Oxygen beta 8.0, or the Lineage beta for 8.0?
Coming from an LG V10 (AT&T) where I couldn't modify it for ****, and broke after a little over a year (LG Bootloop issue)
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The ROM you want to use can only be your decision based on what features you want for example if you want loads of tweaking features then I'd suggest resurrection remix and for the very latest android version then oxygen OS or lineage 8.0 both are good in their own ways you'd have to check the description to see which suits your needs , one big tip I can give you though is to always use the latest blu_spark recovery because its been modified to support a variety of ROMs and if your a flashaholic like me then always perform a nandroid backup before switching ROMs its simple advice but can save you loads of time if you don't like the ROM you've chosen and obviously before trying to unlock the bootloader via adb then enable developer options and enable OEM unlocking (some people forget) good luck and enjoy this wicked phone...

Xceeder said:
The ROM you want to use can only be your decision based on what features you want for example if you want loads of tweaking features then I'd suggest resurrection remix and for the very latest android version then oxygen OS or lineage 8.0 both are good in their own ways you'd have to check the description to see which suits your needs , one big tip I can give you though is to always use the latest blu_spark recovery because its been modified to support a variety of ROMs and if your a flashaholic like me then always perform a nandroid backup before switching ROMs its simple advice but can save you loads of time if you don't like the ROM you've chosen and obviously before trying to unlock the bootloader via adb then enable developer options and enable OEM unlocking (some people forget) good luck and enjoy this wicked phone...
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Ah ok thanks for that blu_spark bit, I was just gonna stick with stock kernel, but now I am seeing the benefits of custom ones.

ZVNexus said:
Ah ok thanks for that blu_spark bit, I was just gonna go TWRP since that's all I have heard about, I got drawn in by the LG V10 by marketing, sucked so now going towards a phone that will last. Not having to rely on AT&T for updates is a surefire way to get that.
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I had an LG G4 , great phone but I too suffered the bootloop problem and LG did nothing to refund me so no more LG phones for me , p.s please leave a thumbs up on my posts if I've helped I truly appreciate it and if you need any more help just come back to this post and quote my message and I'll help as best I can ...

ZVNexus said:
I bought this device today.
I got it because I wanted to get into custom ROMs/Root.
Is there anything I need to know about this phone that will be helpful? Tips & Tricks?
Also I hear talk of Lineage OS vs Oxygen. Which is better and why? (Please don't be LINEAGE OF COURSE FTW, I want reasons. Couldn't find that anywhere)
Should I chose Oxygen beta 8.0, or the Lineage beta for 8.0?
Coming from an LG V10 (AT&T) where I couldn't modify it for ****, and broke after a little over a year (LG Bootloop issue)
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Flash Zenity RR as soon as you get a chance! It's an awesome ROM.

ZVNexus said:
Ah ok thanks for that blu_spark bit, I was just gonna stick with stock kernel, but now I am seeing the benefits of custom ones.
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Xceeder was talking about recovery, not kernel. Since this phone is new for you, certain idiosyncrasies of this phone must be learnt. One of them is the recovery. Ofcourse official TWRP is there but it will not work with many custom ROMs. One of the best recoveries for this phone is made by bluspark who is well-known for his kernels. It is that recovery which Xceeder was talking about. I also use the same.
As regards ROMs, apart from what Xceeder stated, if you are satisfied with a smooth and battery friendly ROM, I can recommend VertexOS. But it will not have any bells or whistles. Another battery friendly and smooth ROM with some tweaks built-in is PureFusion. Both these I have used. But if you need many tweaks, go with Xceeder's recommendations. As he said, ROMs are a personal choice and what I like, you may not. So read about a few, flash a few and finalise.
Advance wishes for a happy experience.

tnsmani said:
Xceeder was talking about recovery, not kernel. Since this phone is new for you, certain idiosyncrasies of this phone must be learnt. One of them is the recovery. Ofcourse official TWRP is there but it will not work with many custom ROMs. One of the best recoveries for this phone is made by bluspark who is well-known for his kernels. It is that recovery which Xceeder was talking about. I also use the same.
As regards ROMs, apart from what Xceeder stated, if you are satisfied with a smooth and battery friendly ROM, I can recommend VertexOS. But it will not have any bells or whistles. Another battery friendly and smooth ROM with some tweaks built-in is PureFusion. Both these I have used. But if you need many tweaks, go with Xceeder's recommendations. As he said, ROMs are a personal choice and what I like, you may not. So read about a few, flash a few and finalise.
Advance wishes for a happy experience.
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Ah ok only reason I said kernel was because [kernel] was the first thing that came up when I typed in blu_spark.

Is there more ROMs?

I recently purchased an tab S4 just an update from my previous Samsung tablet. I was wondering is there more ROMs for this tablet or ROMs currently in development? I noticed theres like 2 ROMs for this tablet. I have a note 8 and I'm currently running deluxerom on and it, and I really enjoy the tweaks and customization I'm able to do. I was looking for a same kind of feature for my tablet. Would greatly appreciate the answers I'm looking for. Thanks!

Mkami said:
I recently purchased an tab S4 just an update from my previous Samsung tablet. I was wondering is there more ROMs for this tablet or ROMs currently in development? I noticed theres like 2 ROMs for this tablet. I have a note 8 and I'm currently running deluxerom on and it, and I really enjoy the tweaks and customization I'm able to do. I was looking for a same kind of feature for my tablet. Would greatly appreciate the answers I'm looking for. Thanks!
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Pretty much zero support. You can get a few 9.0 GSI ROMs to boot, but they all have issues. Mine has been sitting around since it was purchased while still using my old 2014 model.

veekay said:
Pretty much zero support. You can get a few 9.0 GSI ROMs to boot, but they all have issues. Mine has been sitting around since it was purchased while still using my old 2014 model.
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Aww no way!? Really? I excitingly got this tablet cause of the features and thought perhaps there would be amazing ROMs for this particular tablet, but I guess not xD What are GSI ROMs? Also as a desperate attempt would other tablet ROMs work on this s4? Thanks mate!

Mkami said:
Aww no way!? Really? I excitingly got this tablet cause of the features and thought perhaps there would be amazing ROMs for this particular tablet, but I guess not xD What are GSI ROMs? Also as a desperate attempt would other tablet ROMs work on this s4? Thanks mate!
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I had thought the same thing, but it seems the S3 is the last tablet to get real support.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/project-treble/trebleenabled-device-development
Some of the ones for 9 will work, but most features won't work too well, if at all.
You might be able to get another rom to work, I know I had no luck. Even trying ones with similar hardware, they all failed to even flash since the booting numbers are different.
Kind of have to be satisfied with Samsung, half baked custom roms or sell the thing.

Mkami said:
Aww no way!? Really? I excitingly got this tablet cause of the features and thought perhaps there would be amazing ROMs for this particular tablet, but I guess not xD What are GSI ROMs? Also as a desperate attempt would other tablet ROMs work on this s4? Thanks mate!
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First,download "Treble Check" app from playstore & read for your device...
https://www.xda-developers.com/flash-generic-system-image-project-treble-device/
(Some GSIs roms are not compatible with some devices!)

veekay said:
I had thought the same thing, but it seems the S3 is the last tablet to get real support.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/project-treble/trebleenabled-device-development
Some of the ones for 9 will work, but most features won't work too well, if at all.
You might be able to get another rom to work, I know I had no luck. Even trying ones with similar hardware, they all failed to even flash since the booting numbers are different.
Kind of have to be satisfied with Samsung, half baked custom roms or sell the thing.
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Hey Veekay I tried it and you're right unfortunately I came across the same issue as you brother
Now I'm stuck and I need help sorting my device out, was wondering if you knew this issue or could help?
When I got the stock firmware back and then when I flash TWRP with odin after going into TWRP I get 0mb as internal
so when I format and then go back into my load up the screen after SAMSUNG says "verification failed" and then reset
on the bottom. I tried other options as well. Without even wiping on TWRP the devices boots up into the setup wizard for the firmware fine
but after I wipe TWRP so I can get access to my internal drive my samsung boots into that verification reset screen. Got any clue as to how I can
resolve this issue? Thanks a bunch!

daitalos said:
First,download "Treble Check" app from playstore & read for your device...
https://www.xda-developers.com/flash-generic-system-image-project-treble-device/
(Some GSIs roms are not compatible with some devices!)
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Hey! Thanks for your reply, will this work for PIE? I can't downgrade from PIE to OREO
and I don't know if GSI even works properly on my device

Mkami said:
Hey Veekay I tried it and you're right unfortunately I came across the same issue as you brother
Now I'm stuck and I need help sorting my device out, was wondering if you knew this issue or could help?
When I got the stock firmware back and then when I flash TWRP with odin after going into TWRP I get 0mb as internal
so when I format and then go back into my load up the screen after SAMSUNG says "verification failed" and then reset
on the bottom. I tried other options as well. Without even wiping on TWRP the devices boots up into the setup wizard for the firmware fine
but after I wipe TWRP so I can get access to my internal drive my samsung boots into that verification reset screen. Got any clue as to how I can
resolve this issue? Thanks a bunch!
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Have you tried just reloading the latest stock firmware from scratch?

Yup, its unfortunate that there isn't much community support for this device. The Tab S4 is Project Treble supported and a few GSI ROMS do work. But as others have said they are unstable and not for use as a daily driver. We have a few discussion threads here talking about them.

veekay said:
Have you tried just reloading the latest stock firmware from scratch?
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Would that work? If I did that I would still be able to download and install TWRP and have a root? Because of it being PIE

UndeadAnarchy said:
Yup, its unfortunate that there isn't much community support for this device. The Tab S4 is Project Treble supported and a few GSI ROMS do work. But as others have said they are unstable and not for use as a daily driver. We have a few discussion threads here talking about them.
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I am going to do more research on these projects because I really wish there was more ROMs its quite an amazing tablet but the potential with the stock ROM lacks a lot

Mkami said:
Hey! Thanks for your reply, will this work for PIE? I can't downgrade from PIE to OREO
and I don't know if GSI even works properly on my device
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Generic System Image (GSI) list :
https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/wiki/Generic-System-Image-(GSI)-list
you can try only "Android 9 Pie" official or unofficial gsi roms..
and remember ! Some GSIs roms maybe are not compatible with some devices! you can ask for your device on each thread
(for example look here): https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/issues/777
(usually this Gsi aosp 9 phh, generally works on most devices...BUT! ask first,and discuss it in the thread)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...vice-development/aosp-9-0-phh-treble-t3831915

daitalos said:
Generic System Image (GSI) list :
https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/wiki/Generic-System-Image-(GSI)-list
you can try only "Android 9 Pie" official or unofficial gsi roms..
and remember ! Some GSIs roms maybe are not compatible with some devices! you can ask for your device on each thread
(for example look here): https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/issues/777
(usually this Gsi aosp 9 phh, generally works on most devices...BUT! ask first,and discuss it in the thread)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...vice-development/aosp-9-0-phh-treble-t3831915
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Can I do this without stock ROM and only TWRP? Because having the stock ROM is disabling my twrp to function without wiping and if I wipe than my stock ROM doesn't work
Thanks!

Mkami said:
Can I do this without stock ROM and only TWRP? Because having the stock ROM is disabling my twrp to function without wiping and if I wipe than my stock ROM doesn't work
Thanks!
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Sorry,but I don't understand what do you mean " without stock rom and only twrp"...
you can install a Gsi rom, with two ways
Via TWRP, or Via Fastboot : https://www.xda-developers.com/flash-generic-system-image-project-treble-device/ (Tab S4 is a-only arm64)
for any other question, it is better to ask in the thread : https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...vice-development/aosp-9-0-phh-treble-t3831915
(read carefully in OP & you can post,every single question there for your device,and you will get certainly help from the developer or from any other user..)

Mkami said:
Can I do this without stock ROM and only TWRP? Because having the stock ROM is disabling my twrp to function without wiping and if I wipe than my stock ROM doesn't work
Thanks!
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You are going to have to just wipe it and start over from square one, unless you made a TWRP backup before starting all of this.
Download and flash the latest stock rom from recovery and then you can load twrp again.

I was looking at the possibility of using GSI's on some devices, and while they can offer new life to older devices, they're not entirely stable all the time unless you're willing to make your own changes. I know Lineage has made some excellent progress, but it's not fullproof yet and I wouldn't try it unless you're willing to not use your device as a daily use device.
I had an extra T-Mobile Revvlry which is basically a rebranded Moto g7 Play that I installed the Lineage GSI image and it works fairly well. However, this is more the exception to the rule and Moto devices, I feel, are far simpler in design vs certain Samsung devices. It also had a ton of trial and error involved for me to get it up and running properly.

Is it possible as the s4 becomes older, more people buy it and Samsung stops releasing official updates that someone will come along and create a ROM for it? Or is it more like Samsung locked the bootloaders and its close to impossible to write a ROM for it? Is it still possible to root the s4?

slipnslider said:
Is it possible as the s4 becomes older, more people buy it and Samsung stops releasing official updates that someone will come along and create a ROM for it? Or is it more like Samsung locked the bootloaders and its close to impossible to write a ROM for it? Is it still possible to root the s4?
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Read very carefully without rush ! for " WETA Kernel + Encryption disabler " etc
especially, read the user comments carefully, and ask on the thread for any questions you have..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s4/development/recovery-twrp-3-3-0-sm-t83x-t3928278 (Pie version)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79483624&postcount=2
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s4/how-to/guide-sm-t83x-twrp-magisk-t4059227
( Newest Odin v3.14.4 is there : https://dl2018.sammobile.com/Odin3-v3.14.4.zip )

Thanks. I took a quick peak at the roms and kernels in the roms and kernels forum and they are pretty much all abandoned.
Someone did mention that the LOS 16.0 and ArrowOS GSI's work alright but are a bit buggy.

slipnslider said:
Thanks. I took a quick peak at the roms and kernels in the roms and kernels forum and they are pretty much all abandoned.
Someone did mention that the LOS 16.0 and ArrowOS GSI's work alright but are a bit buggy.
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samsung,maybe at the end of july to give the upgrade to android 10....it is very likely to happen I think
yes,all Gsi Roms still have various problems unfortunately...
my opinion is: stay to stock rom for now....you can "uninstall" many applications if you want & without root, via "samsung package disabler"(paid) from playstore, or with this way:
https://beebom.com/how-remove-bloatware-android-without-root/
also,you can Install "NiceLock Downloader Companion App" ,to add some features on your device : https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/themes/nicelock-module-download-links-module-t3923844
with this way I operate my device until now..

Question Has anyone tried GSI on Alioth yet?

I'm still waiting for my K40... And need to wait for the unlock...
Was wonder if anyone has tried GSI ROM yet? Phh's AOSP etc?

I haven't. However the android 12 pre release GSI boots but the system UI keeps crashing apparently.
Why do you want a GSI? Is there a specific ROM that's missing that you want to flash?

Robert314 said:
I haven't. However the android 12 pre release GSI boots but the system UI keeps crashing apparently
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I'd love to try that too... My item has arrived at the custom, should read me tomorrow. Can't wait to try it... My first 5G phone.

Robert314 said:
I haven't. However the android 12 pre release GSI boots but the system UI keeps crashing apparently.
Why do you want a GSI? Is there a specific ROM that's missing that you want to flash?
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I prefer a more official release of ROM... No offend to any Devs... Just prefer a ROM I can stick to longer... Rather than one that stop maintaining and had to switch again and again... I've had a phone before... No official ROM... And someone making tonnes of ROMs, but none go official...
Prefer a close to native ROM... Or lighter ROM. AOSP/LOS.
I have only a laptop with 8GB RAM, also no knowledge to build my own ROM.

woofwoof75 said:
I prefer a more official release of ROM... No offend to any Devs... Just prefer a ROM I can stick to longer... Rather than one that stop maintaining and had to switch again and again... I've had a phone before... No official ROM... And someone making tonnes of ROMs, but none go official...
Prefer a close to native ROM... Or lighter ROM. AOSP/LOS.
I have only a laptop with 8GB RAM, also no knowledge to build my own ROM.
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I think the same about the custom roms. I can recommend https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations which I used for other phones, but didnt try a GSI with poco f3 yet, need to wait for unlocking.
Btw unlock delay is so useless and only annoys customers. All shops where I looked for the poco f3 sold it unlocked for +30€.

peterteter said:
I think the same about the custom roms. I can recommend https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations which I used for other phones, but didnt try a GSI with poco f3 yet, need to wait for unlocking.
Btw unlock delay is so useless and only annoys customers. All shops where I looked for the poco f3 sold it unlocked for +30€.
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I can understand why they do it, it's to stop the people sell the device on AliExpress, buying in bulk from the pre launch sale and install malwares on the device and ship out.
So the 7 days delay means they have to hold it in stock and make their business not very nice... Stock pilings.

Question Help with installing custom rom

Sorry if my English is kinda bad, but I'm a noob at installing custom roms on newer devices and I'm just curious about the risks of it and what is the best recovery and rom for this device. My only experience is with an old j5 2016 and I want to know if there's anything different in the process of installing the recovery and rom on these devices since the age gap is huge.

whayoubullingme said:
Sorry if my English is kinda bad, but I'm a noob at installing custom roms on newer devices and I'm just curious about the risks of it and what is the best recovery and rom for this device. My only experience is with an old j5 2016 and I want to know if there's anything different in the process of installing the recovery and rom on these devices since the age gap is huge.
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Nice to meet you! I have a A52 4G. I've flashed a custom OS and recovery on it so I should be able to help you. What exactly do you want to know?

I wanna know the risks, if the process has changed since 2016 and the best rom to start with

whayoubullingme said:
I wanna know the risks, if the process has changed since 2016 and the best rom to start with
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There aren't too many risks as long as you know what you're doing, your warranty will be void though and you won't be able to use things like work accounts afterwards. For a Samsung device you use Odin to flash. As for a ROM, I would start with Lineage OS, as it's the most popular and most other ROMs are based on it as well. Let me know if you want more detailed answers.

whayoubullingme said:
I wanna know the risks, if the process has changed since 2016 and the best rom to start with
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If you follow the instructions then there are no risks, every device can brick if you flash the wrong files. For starters i would get instructions on how to install TWRP for your phone. From there you have the option to install GSI roms, or Custom Roms made for the A52s, currently on XDA you can find LineageOS 20 and Pixel Experience+ 13, both are Initial builds with (as the time of writing) many bugs, you can find specific details on the posts of the roms here on XDA (be sure to check the comments also, have seen some people find more bugs than initially thought)

I wanna ask if the performance and battery life is affected at all, if it it's is it better or worse. I've had this phone for a year now and I've noticed that the battery life is not amazing, will any of these roms make it better or worse?

whayoubullingme said:
I wanna ask if the performance and battery life is affected at all, if it it's is it better or worse. I've had this phone for a year now and I've noticed that the battery life is not amazing, will any of these roms make it better or worse?
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In theory it should be better, as LOS is much lighter and doesn't have much bloatware (if any). Like I said, mine was better.