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[Q] Any confirmed Devs sticking around?

I know that how much we can do with any given phone is really up in the air at this point...
However, I am wondering how many people are still interested in this device and will still give it a shot even it requires some fiddling with the boot loaders and what not.
I completely understand if no one wants to dev here but, as someone who really doesn't have the option of nexus-y goodness, I figure it isn't beyond reason that some people will at least try to tinker with this one.

I'm definitely interested and will probably be here in january. Hopefully the bootloader will be unlocked by then. If not, I will try to figure out how to do that.
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xboxfanj said:
I'm definitely interested and will probably be here in january. Hopefully the bootloader will be unlocked by then. If not, I will try to figure out how to do that.
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Awesome.
I won't be able to upgrade till December but, it's not like I have a lot of places to go really in terms of options.

Very encouraging, gentlemen. Would this potential development be compatible with the F180 model? I am currently living in South Korea, waiting for my current phone contract to expire next month and (finally) purchase my first Android device.

chevro1et said:
Very encouraging, gentlemen. Would this potential development be compatible with the F180 model? I am currently living in South Korea, waiting for my current phone contract to expire next month and (finally) purchase my first Android device.
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Yeah, I will do stuff for all variants if I get one. I can probably make a flashable zip that can detect which device you are on and throw the right files in corresponding to your device.
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xboxfanj said:
Yeah, I will do stuff for all variants if I get one. I can probably make a flashable zip that can detect which device you are on and throw the right files in corresponding to your device.
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Well sir, I am about 96% convinced that I will be getting this phone (the F180) and would be more than happy to provide any sort of assistance/ file dumps as requested/ required.

Pretty sure a few roms have that for the s1 variants.
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I was going to get a Nexus 4, but alas since it's gsm only looks like I'll be getting the Optimus G. It'll be a nice upgrade from my heroc. With luck I'll get it on the 11th. First mission will be the bootloader.
I currently maintain cm10 for the heroc, so I have a bit of experience around the block.
Once the bootloader is unlocked, this will basically be the nexus for us Sprint users. Nearly identical specs will make development a breeze.

Shelnutt2 said:
I was going to get a Nexus 4, but alas since it's gsm only looks like I'll be getting the Optimus G. It'll be a nice upgrade from my heroc. With luck I'll get it on the 11th. First mission will be the bootloader.
I currently maintain cm10 for the heroc, so I have a bit of experience around the block.
Once the bootloader is unlocked, this will basically be the nexus for us Sprint users. Nearly identical specs will make development a breeze.
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Any experience with locked/encrypted bootloaders?

Shelnutt2 said:
I was going to get a Nexus 4, but alas since it's gsm only looks like I'll be getting the Optimus G. It'll be a nice upgrade from my heroc. With luck I'll get it on the 11th. First mission will be the bootloader.
I currently maintain cm10 for the heroc, so I have a bit of experience around the block.
Once the bootloader is unlocked, this will basically be the nexus for us Sprint users. Nearly identical specs will make development a breeze.
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It will pretty much be the Nexus for me assuming unlocked bootloaders.

I placed my pre-order today through wirefly.. only $149.. Definitely looking forward to it.
Jake, you better get one!

Mike_77 said:
I placed my pre-order today through wirefly.. only $149.. Definitely looking forward to it.
Jake, you better get one!
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I probably will as long as the boot loader is unlocked by Jan, which is when my contract ends, or if the nexus boot loader works.
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I imagine the next few days will be very telling.
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[Q] Planning an upgrade!

Let me start off with saying sorry if this is the wrong thread/forum to locate this:
I have an upgrade with AT&T that I can use and I am highly interested in the Galaxy S3, however I am more cautious than my last upgrade because I previously upgraded to the Nokia Lumia 900 and just a few weeks later, they released no windows 8 upgrade, etc for it. I am worried that if I plan to get the S3 somehow I will miss out on the next S4. I guess what I am asking is should I wait or go ahead with the upgrade. I am interested in it now, because I can get it for 149.99 and get a free $50 dollar credit to the google play store. Any advice would be great, thanks!

The S3 is a great phone with really good dev support. The S4 hasn't even been announced yet so that means it's going to be over 6 months before the US ever sees it. If I were you I would get the S3 now. At $150 +$50 play store credit that is a pretty decent deal.
We just got 4.1 jellybean and 4.2 (I think) is looking promising, hopefully. I mean, we still have approximately a year left of support from Sammy.
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The S3 is a great phone with really good dev support. The S4 hasn't even been announced yet so that means it's going to be over 6 months before the US ever sees it. If I were you I would get the S3 now. At $150 +$50 play store credit that is a pretty decent deal.
We just got 4.1 jellybean and 4.2 (I think) is looking promising, hopefully. I mean, we still have approximately a year left of support from Sammy.
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I am really tempted to, because I've fallen in love with android, I got interested when I bought a S2 skyrocket of ebay and really am enjoying it. That's good news about 4.2, it looks awesome.

Wait for s4 its comin in april
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Florad77 said:
Wait for s4 its comin in april
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If any kind of SIV is releasing in April, it would be the international version, and even that is highly unlikely.
An announcement of the international version might come in April, but I highly doubt that the U.S variants will be in stores before June at the earliest.

HiTideBlastoise said:
Let me start off with saying sorry if this is the wrong thread/forum to locate this:
I have an upgrade with AT&T that I can use and I am highly interested in the Galaxy S3, however I am more cautious than my last upgrade because I previously upgraded to the Nokia Lumia 900 and just a few weeks later, they released no windows 8 upgrade, etc for it. I am worried that if I plan to get the S3 somehow I will miss out on the next S4. I guess what I am asking is should I wait or go ahead with the upgrade. I am interested in it now, because I can get it for 149.99 and get a free $50 dollar credit to the google play store. Any advice would be great, thanks!
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I've been enjoying the GS3 for half a year now; excellent phone. As others have said, the S3 won't go obsolete anytime soon. If you can, see if they have the Nexus 4. Really digging that one

laserlight959 said:
I've been enjoying the GS3 for half a year now; excellent phone. As others have said, the S3 won't go obsolete anytime soon. If you can, see if they have the Nexus 4. Really digging that one
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Ive heard bad things from a few people about the N4. Mainly build quality and battery life for starters.
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Ive heard bad things from a few people about the N4. Mainly build quality and battery life for starters.
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Really??? Then again, I've just been reading reviews and haven't actually seen someone with an one. But from what I see, the build quality looks excellent... only downside is the inability to change the battery/back cover at ease. Not sure about the battery life though :S

I work at att and we were told that s4 might be different names and slightly different hardware per carrier like they did with the first galaxy line
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I just made the upgrade myself from the skyrocket to the g3. So far i like the g3 just got it today so havent played with it too much. I couldnt pass up the deal i got it for 50 bucks.

Florad77 said:
Wait for s4 its comin in april
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madmax49201 said:
I just made the upgrade myself from the skyrocket to the g3. So far i like the g3 just got it today so havent played with it too much. I couldnt pass up the deal i got it for 50 bucks.
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May I ask how?

J2DAe said:
I work at att and we were told that s4 might be different names and slightly different hardware per carrier like they did with the first galaxy line
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If that's the case, I will most definitely not be purchasing it. I can only imagine the update delays when there are multiple carrier variants floating around. In fact, I think I'm done with carrier-branded phones altogether. As noted by another user, the GS3 is not going to become obsolete any time soon, so I may just hold out until the next Nexus, in hopes that it'll come with LTE. ::fingers crossed::

I think I am going to get it, best chance is now!
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Those that signed up for Jump in July

Are you switching to another device in January?
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Idk I'm thinking of paying off this phone and going prepaid, I'm not sure though.

ilogik said:
Are you switching to another device in January?
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I'm gonna switch in February. Im probably going to try either the iPhone or the nexus 5. I need suggestions though please.
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MrPapito429 said:
I'm gonna switch in February. Im probably going to try either the iPhone or the nexus 5. I need suggestions though please.
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Just play with both and see what you like better. Personally I like to use android so I would go with the nexus 5 out of those two.

Wait till March and get the Galaxy S5. That lines you up perfectly for the new phone in the fall, whether thats a nicer android or the new Iphone. To get the most out of this program you have to line it up perfectly.

You mean theres something better? Worthy of throwing 6 months worth of payments down the drain for?

What about the new note? If you're into that.
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Just remember, the Galaxy S5 will be either 4.3 or 4.4 which means Knox
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The Sickness said:
Just remember, the Galaxy S5 will be either 4.3 or 4.4 which means Knox
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Because of knox I most likely look at LG or something else. I have exactly 4 weeks.

The Sickness said:
Just remember, the Galaxy S5 will be either 4.3 or 4.4 which means Knox
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Yeah, but it's going to have a 2560x1440p screen. So tempting, but I don't want to support something like Knox.

If I'm looking to upgrade to the N5 using the Jump program do I have to unroot my S4 to stock for the trade in…does anyone know…?

guerrillastyle said:
If I'm looking to upgrade to the N5 using the Jump program do I have to unroot my S4 to stock for the trade in…does anyone know…?
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You always want to unroot and flash a device back to stock before taking it back to T-Mobile.

If the nexus line had replaceable batteries and an sd card slot I'd pick one up. As they don't i foresee migrating to the S5 sometime after it's released.
There's nothing right now that makes me want to dump my S4...
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Not a big deal.
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Yeah, but it's going to have a 2560x1440p screen. So tempting, but I don't want to support something like Knox.
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Everyone is so up in arms about KNOX, it really is no big deal, if you don't use it, it won't bother you, and if you are savvy, you can get around it. KNOX is needed for many corporations that allow sensitive information to be used on employee's mobile devices. Otherwise if you work in such a company and use any of your own devices and something goes wrong you have to sign a weaver that the company can and will confiscate your device, whether you paid for it or not! Yes, I'm lining up for the next galaxy because every device I have gotten from Samsung has been fast and snappy and very cool. I like being able to replace the batteries and also add different SD cards. SO many companies have removed that ability that it is a shame.

BoboBrazil said:
Wait till March and get the Galaxy S5. That lines you up perfectly for the new phone in the fall, whether thats a nicer android or the new Iphone. To get the most out of this program you have to line it up perfectly.
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Didn't the GS3 get delayed till like June? I bet there will be delays with S5 because of the new display they will "supposedly" use, so if you change your phone now it will line up with a probable June/July release of the S5.

vvveith said:
Everyone is so up in arms about KNOX, it really is no big deal, if you don't use it, it won't bother you, and if you are savvy, you can get around it. KNOX is needed for many corporations that allow sensitive information to be used on employee's mobile devices. Otherwise if you work in such a company and use any of your own devices and something goes wrong you have to sign a weaver that the company can and will confiscate your device, whether you paid for it or not! Yes, I'm lining up for the next galaxy because every device I have gotten from Samsung has been fast and snappy and very cool. I like being able to replace the batteries and also add different SD cards. SO many companies have removed that ability that it is a shame.
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Knox IS a big deal for people who care about their warranty. You cannot (as of today) root without tripping Knox.
There too many "opinions" as to what Knox is for. Some say it won't get checked on warranty exchanges etc. How do you know?
Bottle line, you don't care about warranty, then root a S5 when ya get it .
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I don't waste my money on jump and I keep my old devices because I always get what I paid for them or more.
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guerrillastyle said:
If I'm looking to upgrade to the N5 using the Jump program do I have to unroot my S4 to stock for the trade in…does anyone know…?
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I actually just checked on this today. T-mobile employees aren't even trained to check for the Knox fuse, and some don't even know what it is. They told me as long as the phone boots up and is usable it wont be a problem if there is no damage to the device. This information is provided by a manager. However this person did say they trade in rooted phones all the time, so I am better off bringing my Knox blown device into the store rather than doing the exchange by phone/mail.
Of course this is all subject to change at any point if T-mobile decides to instruct their employees to check for Knox. But as of the writing of this message, you're good to go.

I would like to wait and see what the Galaxy s5 looks like. Hoping for a metal body. I wish they would get rid of the home button. LG and HTC are also putting out some nice hardware.

This thread needs a poll! I plan to wait for either S5 or Note 4.
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Went back to Samsung

Over rated phone with no development! One plus is a better choice. Either way good luck
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warchyld77 said:
Over rated phone with no development! One plus is a better choice. Either way good luck
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Not unless you got the tmobile variant.

warchyld77 said:
Over rated phone with no development! One plus is a better choice. Either way good luck
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Good for you, now go away to the samsung section,

These retorts make me laugh. The phone wasn't a bad phone i just expected a whole lot more and especially more development but Lg is making major strides. Two cents said
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warchyld77 said:
Over rated phone with no development! One plus is a better choice. Either way good luck
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Sums it up

warchyld77 said:
These retorts make me laugh. The phone wasn't a bad phone i just expected a whole lot more and especially more development but Lg is making major strides. Two cents said
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G3 runs out of the box as well as any phone out there including those running custom roms.... LG has done a bang up job on it. One reason that devs are lagging I suspect.... Good luck to you...
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Dont really think this post was needed but hey, its here...
The G3 has its drawbacks as any phone does honestly, a locked bootloader is just that. Either wait it out, dont buy it or move along. All this was known prior to buying the phone so its your call, not like its a surprise. The T-Mobile version, being unlocked doesnt have enough base support for Devs to be overly interested in it and will be slow going. Hopefully once a fully working AOSP build is available things, at least for the T-Mobile version should pick up some. If you want an out the box supported phone do research prior to buying it, Nexus, One Plus One, HTC, Motorola etc. Companies that either give you the tolls to unlock, or model lines that are unlocked across all carriers are the way to go now a days...shouldnt be surprising.

Bye Bye

mgbotoe said:
Bye Bye
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Are you going to note 4 or waiting for nexus.
BAD ASS G3

BACARDILIMON said:
Are you going to note 4 or waiting for nexus.
BAD ASS G3
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Waiting to see what nexus offers I'm not all that impress with the note, only plus side to it is development (which isn't as popping as the nexus either)

mgbotoe said:
Waiting to see what nexus offers I'm not all that impress with the note, only plus side to it is development (which isn't as popping as the nexus either)
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Correct. The only thing I have to see before I make a change is SD card slot. Got to have one.
BAD ASS G3

I moved from Samsung because the annoying Knox, and Google Wallet (tap and pay doesn't work with Samsung phones).

mingkee said:
I moved from Samsung because the annoying Knox, and Google Wallet (tap and pay doesn't work with Samsung phones).
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I was able to use both on my note 3 running tweaked.
BAD ASS G3

BACARDILIMON said:
I was able to use both on my note 3 running tweaked.
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Correct same.. Not sure about the nexus 6 holding off to see what htc brings next

CheesyNutz said:
Correct same.. Not sure about the nexus 6 holding off to see what htc brings next
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I loved the m8 but my fat hands was way to big for that phone lol.
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BACARDILIMON said:
Correct. The only thing I have to see before I make a change is SD card slot. Got to have one.
BAD ASS G3
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So now your wanting the Nexus 6? You said the Note 4 would blow the G3 away so I thought you were set on it. I had Galaxy phones and the Note 2 but got tired of the same design. I'm thinking on trying the Note 4 but still happy with my G3. Also thinking on the Z3 just because it's something different. Last 3 phones were LG G2, Flex and G3. Also thought about iPhone 6 but that probably won't happen.

sweets55 said:
So now your wanting the Nexus 6? You said the Note 4 would blow the G3 away so I thought you were set on it. I had Galaxy phones and the Note 2 but got tired of the same design. I'm thinking on trying the Note 4 but still happy with my G3. Also thinking on the Z3 just because it's something different. Last 3 phones were LG G2, Flex and G3. Also thought about iPhone 6 but that probably won't happen.
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Note 4 will in many ways. Mine is on order already and also the iPhone 6plus. I will also get nexus and sell this and iPhone plus. I like what I like.
BAD ASS G3

BACARDILIMON said:
Note 4 will in many ways. Mine is on order already and also the iPhone 6plus. I will also get nexus and sell this and iPhone plus. I like what I like.
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Like mgbote and many others aren't that impressed with the Note 4. Not saying I won't try it but I don't think any phones coming out these days blow even last years phones away. Not much change. Imo

Iphone might bend in ur pocket lol
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BACARDILIMON said:
I loved the m8 but my fat hands was way to big for that phone lol.
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i thought about the M8 but i couldnt get over two simple things that bugged me, first i didnt feel the screen size was sufficient because of the htc logo on the bottom took too much space and second was the camera, i have a toddler and i need to film everything.... maybe that rumored htc m8-eye..... or nexus x if its not 5.9' size.
so much to love about the G3 as well, if business picks up here in the following month i wont feel the pressure to jump one more time.
love the feel, the size of the screen is perfect, and the bezels alone just make this easily the best looking phone of the year.

Is this something? Marshmallow source code?

I can't post links due to how rarely I post. However, I searched the G4 on LG's open source website and found this:
ht tp:// opensource.lge.com/osSch/list?types=ALL&search=LGvs986
remove the spaces of course.

The source code for 6.0!! When was this posted?
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Tried to download and they banned my ip for 6 hours...
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You might want to include what it is in the title of the thread so more people see it.

I Dl'd no problem.
This means we're getting close.

Anything you can do with the source code? Or no because we have no access to the bootloader?
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great thing actually,thanks

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Anything you can do with the source code? Or no because we have no access to the bootloader?
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This can’t be compiled and flashed onto an actual device without an unlocked bootloader, if that’s what you’re asking...

Exactly what I was asking lol. Wonder how much longer the big V will drag their heels with this one... Its right there in front of us and we can't do anything with it. *sigh*
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I may be jumping ship to the S7. I like the G4 but Verizon has neutered this phone to the point where I don't want,to deal.

Apex i ITR said:
I may be jumping ship to the S7. I like the G4 but Verizon has neutered this phone to the point where I don't want,to deal.
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This is sadly why I jumped to the 6P in November. I never realized how nice it was to be able to mod and customize your phone any way you want, and have actual 100% stable stock Android ROMs.

geoff5093 said:
This is sadly why I jumped to the 6P in November. I never realized how nice it was to be able to mod and customize your phone any way you want, and have actual 100% stable stock Android ROMs.
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I've been thinking about getting the 6p...is it worth it? Works pretty good on Verizon without issues?
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Naemion said:
I've been thinking about getting the 6p...is it worth it? Works pretty good on Verizon without issues?
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I had the Note 5 after my G4, then got rid of that for the 6P. I'm 100% happy with my choice, I do miss the outstanding G4 camera though.

geoff5093 said:
I had the Note 5 after my G4, then got rid of that for the 6P. I'm 100% happy with my choice, I do miss the outstanding G4 camera though.
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I had the note 3 and was going to get the newest one but the SD card and removable battery were deal breakers for me. And with Verizon handicapping the g4 I hate it. Only problem is I'm stuck on the stupid edge plan and can't afford to pay off the g4 and buy a 6p outright.
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If not for Verizon's coverage I would've left for AT&T long ago. Catch 22

Is this phone definitely getting the marshmallow update or not?

Yes, many countries already have the update.

Carlito17_2000 said:
Is this phone definitely getting the marshmallow update or not?
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It will sometime this year, but Verizon in particular is notoriously slow in pushing major Android updates to their customers. There is a good chance big red will be the last major carrier to push it out.

geoff5093 said:
This is sadly why I jumped to the 6P in November. I never realized how nice it was to be able to mod and customize your phone any way you want, and have actual 100% stable stock Android ROMs.
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I just signed up for Project Fi and ordered the 6P with 128GB storage. I'm ditching Verizon AND what they did to the great G4. It's a shame, too. It's such an excellent phone, but it's just so... neutered.

Any possibility for a unlocked bootloder in the future?