I've been a long time android user but for the last 6 months went with the iPhone 7 plus just to try something different, long story short iPhone failed me so I decided to give the pixel XL a try. I love it but I acquired a lot of iTunes music over the past couple months and for some reason when I put them on the Pixel no matter what player I try it wont play them. I have tried Poweramp which was always a favorite, blackplayer, stock google player and nothing seems to work. Any ideas? I have googled the issue and it seems the Pixel can play M4a so what's going on?
rbtrucking said:
I've been a long time android user but for the last 6 months went with the iPhone 7 plus just to try something different, long story short iPhone failed me so I decided to give the pixel XL a try. I love it but I acquired a lot of iTunes music over the past couple months and for some reason when I put them on the Pixel no matter what player I try it wont play them. I have tried Poweramp which was always a favorite, blackplayer, stock google player and nothing seems to work. Any ideas? I have googled the issue and it seems the Pixel can play M4a so what's going on?
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Hi... Maybe a DRM issue? iTunes purchased music is protected and can only be played on a device having the same iTunes account no?
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Ya, I thought they got rid of that years ago. I know Apple used to do that but the files work on all my other devices like computer, laptop, but I guess it's not the biggest deal. I converted them to MP3 and now they work fine.
I don't think Google Play Music (assuming that's what you're using) supports .M4a natively. You could upload them using the music manager or try a third party app. VLC tends to play just about everything.
https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/1100462?hl=en
rbtrucking said:
Ya, I thought they got rid of that years ago. I know Apple used to do that but the files work on all my other devices like computer, laptop, but I guess it's not the biggest deal. I converted them to MP3 and now they work fine.
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Ah... Strange. Still it would be better to get them working without the need of reencoding once again. It certainly kills the audio signal a bit more.
Hopefully you'll find a way to play the originals
AJZ12 said:
I don't think Google Play Music (assuming that's what you're using) supports .M4a natively. You could upload them using the music manager or try a third party app. VLC tends to play just about everything.
https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/1100462?hl=en
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Strange, he alsp tried also Poweramp. Playstore description says it should play m4a. Apple certainly did something here...
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Hi... Maybe a DRM issue? iTunes purchased music is protected and can only be played on a device having the same iTunes account no?
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In theory, only files downloaded from Apple Music streaming (.m4p files) should be affected by DRM protection. .m4a files should have no issue on Poweramp.
This doesn't mean Apple didn't do something to encrypt the .m4a files so they can only be played on Apple devices. It wouldn't surprise me. This is a big reason why I don't really like Apple products. Apple pretty much tells you how to use the device and almost force you to use it that way just to try to lock you in their ecosystem.
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In theory, only files downloaded from Apple Music streaming (.m4p files) should be affected by DRM protection. .m4a files should have no issue on Poweramp.
This doesn't mean Apple didn't do something to encrypt the .m4a files so they can only be played on Apple devices. It wouldn't surprise me. This is a big reason why I don't really like Apple products. Apple pretty much tells you how to use the device and almost force you to use it that way just to try to lock you in their ecosystem.
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That's right boy am I getting sick of there crap! Honestly I am HUGE into music and consider myself an audiophile and get a lot of my music in either FLAC or WAV directly from CD and the iPhone was always very picky about what WAV files it would support and it doesn't support flac at all, wont even let you transfer it to the device. I've had instances where I would go to my music library and ALL the music that I hadn't bought from iTunes would just be GONE out of the blue. I googled it, and it turns out it's a very common issue and even the guys on macrumors suspect's it's a tactic by apple to get you to only use iTunes purchased music on their devices.
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In theory, only files downloaded from Apple Music streaming (.m4p files) should be affected by DRM protection. .m4a files should have no issue on Poweramp.
This doesn't mean Apple didn't do something to encrypt the .m4a files so they can only be played on Apple devices. It wouldn't surprise me. This is a big reason why I don't really like Apple products. Apple pretty much tells you how to use the device and almost force you to use it that way just to try to lock you in their ecosystem.
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I'm not surprised at all. Since Poweramp is supposed to support m4a, it's definitely an issue with Apple. I remember 10 years ago when my wife had the first or second iPhone and i had to convert songs in mp3 or flac to aac or whatever format to play them. Now she uses my ex N6P :angel:
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That's right boy am I getting sick of there crap! Honestly I am HUGE into music and consider myself an audiophile and get a lot of my music in either FLAC or WAV directly from CD and the iPhone was always very picky about what WAV files it would support and it doesn't support flac at all, wont even let you transfer it to the device. I've had instances where I would go to my music library and ALL the music that I hadn't bought from iTunes would just be GONE out of the blue. I googled it, and it turns out it's a very common issue and even the guys on macrumors suspect's it's a tactic by apple to get you to only use iTunes purchased music on their devices.
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Now you're free to play whatever you want on your phone :good:
(Except original m4a Apple files <-- sarcasm )
Cheers...
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That's right boy am I getting sick of there crap! Honestly I am HUGE into music and consider myself an audiophile and get a lot of my music in either FLAC or WAV directly from CD and the iPhone was always very picky about what WAV files it would support and it doesn't support flac at all, wont even let you transfer it to the device. I've had instances where I would go to my music library and ALL the music that I hadn't bought from iTunes would just be GONE out of the blue. I googled it, and it turns out it's a very common issue and even the guys on macrumors suspect's it's a tactic by apple to get you to only use iTunes purchased music on their devices.
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And with the development of USB-C and the state of modern hardware, lossless file formats will actually be lossless on phones instead of just a waste of space. Most apps converted lossless files to lower bitrates while playing and if the app didn't, the DAC did.
It's ridiculous. In my eyes, Apple looks like they are making desperate attempts to hold onto as many customers as possible by making it as inconvenient as possible to switch to a different platform. iOS is lagging behind Android now in settings menu organization and overall functionality, and I think they know it. I'd use to have to root a phone just to do some of the things an iPhone could do until the OG Moto X, which was the last phone I rooted and that was only for hotspot access when I had my original unlimited Verizon plan. I have lost interest in root access on my daily driver now that Android does everything I need plus more. I thought I'd root my 6P once I experienced a limitation but there wasn't ever a time with the 6P that Android let me down (besides a software-based noise canceling mic issue but Google replaced the phone for free because of it). I didn't even root the only Nexus phone I ever owned and still haven't seen the need to root the Pixel.
I was using my friend's old iPhone while I was waiting for my replacement 6P to arrive and ran into so many inconveniences that I kept asking my friend if I could jailbreak it. He didn't want me to so let's just say it was a horrible experience. You can't even put the cursor in the middle of a word to correct a typing mistake unless you use the magnifying glass long-click thing or the spacebar slide feature on the keyboard. On paper, the functionality of iOS and Android is "closer than ever" but the little things make a huge difference.
P.S. iTunes is absolute garbage. It's the modern day Windows Media Player. I feel bad that iPhone users are basically forced to use it to transfer music from a computer to the phone.
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Got the Zune software installed and my music transferred to my HD7 and am pleased the sound quality with my Shure SE530s is quite good. For lack of common smartphone features, it doesn't lack as a Zune music player. The UI is snappier and swifter than the dedicated Zunes, too.
EDIT- A feature that I encountered by accident is the volume button bringing up the mini-player controls in any screen. Very convenient when needing to tap pause or skip.
Cool my girl just got an HD7 and when she's trying to put all her music it keeps saying not enough memory....its only 4gigs of music did you have any problems putting music on your phone.
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air23cpt said:
Cool my girl just got an HD7 and when she's trying to put all her music it keeps saying not enough memory....its only 4gigs of music did you have any problems putting music on your phone.
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Nah, not on this device. But I have had that issue with dedicated Zune players in the past. I usually solved it by erasing the whole player and then it would show properly. Don't know what I would do on this fancy phone if that happened with it. Don't want to erase the data or other smartphone related stuff.
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Cool my girl just got an HD7 and when she's trying to put all her music it keeps saying not enough memory....its only 4gigs of music did you have any problems putting music on your phone.
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you shouldn't have a prob you should be able to see how much mem you have when its plugged in, plus the hd7 has upgradable micro SD canrlt wait till Xmas
It does make for a great ZUNE PLAYER. One of the reasons why I got couldn't wait for the WP7 Phones. I am also glad the GLOBAL market gets to experience this officially. It it so much better than the ITUNEs and IPOD. Graphically it is top notch.
I signed up for the year for $149.99 which gives me two free months which in essence pays for itself with the 10 songs per month.
I also found out about the volume rocker activating the player. Very nice feature.
The sound quality out of my earphones is much louder than my EVO which is a great thing and very clear. I have several sets of earphones and they all sound great. I hated that my EVO was not very loud even with the DSP manager compared to my IPHONE or IPOD TOUCH( Ebay time ).
Have you guys tried out Shazam for WP7? It's so much better than for IPHONE and ANDROID. Nice Zune link at the bottom.
So far the APPS that I use most blows away the ANDROID or the IPHONE versions. Usually its not as good initially than the IPHONE. Two exceptions - Twitter and Facebook. They could use some tweaks
Can't wait for the Dell Venue Pro!
mrmomoman said:
It does make for a great ZUNE PLAYER. One of the reasons why I got couldn't wait for the WP7 Phones. I am also glad the GLOBAL market gets to experience this officially. It it so much better than the ITUNEs and IPOD. Graphically it is top notch.
I signed up for the year for $149.99 which gives me two free months which in essence pays for itself with the 10 songs per month.
I also found out about the volume rocker activating the player. Very nice feature.
The sound quality out of my earphones is much louder than my EVO which is a great thing and very clear. I have several sets of earphones and they all sound great. I hated that my EVO was not very loud even with the DSP manager compared to my IPHONE or IPOD TOUCH( Ebay time ).
Have you guys tried out Shazam for WP7? It's so much better than for IPHONE and ANDROID. Nice Zune link at the bottom.
So far the APPS that I use most blows away the ANDROID or the IPHONE versions. Usually its not as good initially than the IPHONE. Two exceptions - Twitter and Facebook. They could use some tweaks
Can't wait for the Dell Venue Pro!
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I have the exact same sentiment. Though this Facebook app is way better than the WinMo 6.5 version, it isn't quite to the convenience of the Android version.
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I have the exact same sentiment. Though this Facebook app is way better than the WinMo 6.5 version, it isn't quite to the convenience of the Android version.
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You would think as integrated as they are with Facebook that we should have the premium version of them all. I am sure the next update will do this. Definately needs push notification as integrated as it is with WP7. They need to also provide better notifications alerts. I give Android that prop. The persistent state of notifications until you clear them or read the email or message is nice. I know the numbered visual cue in the tile is nice but you have to look at them to know that they have them. That is why they remain the theme color so you can see them better
Maybe if I put them up top I might see them better haha
Not if you need GAPLESS PLAYBACK it doesn't.
Seriously, it's like 2005 all over again.
I've got 200 or so live/concert/dj mix albums that I now can't listen to. A massive balls up by MS, and something that Apple got spot on with iPod/iPhone.
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Not if you need GAPLESS PLAYBACK it doesn't.
Seriously, it's like 2005 all over again.
I've got 200 or so live/concert/dj mix albums that I now can't listen to. A massive balls up by MS, and something that Apple got spot on with iPod/iPhone.
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Then go pay more with a amazon/itunes so we can stop dealimg with ur qq.
Feel free to take the phone back too.
You obviously have never had a dubscription music service in 2005, to make such a baseless comparison.
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Not if you need GAPLESS PLAYBACK it doesn't.
Seriously, it's like 2005 all over again.
I've got 200 or so live/concert/dj mix albums that I now can't listen to. A massive balls up by MS, and something that Apple got spot on with iPod/iPhone.
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I really have never understood the compulsion for gapless playback. But maybe it's a hip-hop, rap or heavy metal thing, I don't know. My music of choice is Jazz, Meditation & Healing, New Age, piano, classic rock and alternative (Coldplay type). None of these genres are what could be considered frantic type music that requires a non-stop playback. These are more inline with relaxing moods than frantic. And because of this I see no problem with the lack of gapless in WP7/Zune.
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For lack of common smartphone features, it doesn't lack as a Zune music player.
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oh, please do name some of these common smartphone features it lacks. multitasking and copy & paste? lol
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I really have never understood the compulsion for gapless playback. But maybe it's a hip-hop, rap or heavy metal thing, I don't know. My music of choice is Jazz, Meditation & Healing, New Age, piano, classic rock and alternative (Coldplay type). None of these genres are what could be considered frantic type music that requires a non-stop playback. These are more inline with relaxing moods than frantic. And because of this I see no problem with the lack of gapless in WP7/Zune.
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I listen to to all genres you listed: hip-hop, rock, jazz, lounge, eletronic, etc. If you're listening to jazz you most undoubtedly have one or a few live jazz albums which NEED gapless playback. This is pretty disturbing actually.
1. I've still got my iPhone 3G S, but fancied a change and was hoping the HD7 was going to be the replacement.
2. The phone will be going back. Not something I want to do, but until a few things* are ironed out, it's the sensible option. (* See my HD7 'review').
3. No idea what Dubscription is/was. iTunes only went gapless in 2006, hence my '2005' comment. My comparison is between WP7 Zune and iTunes. Also, not sure where you're coming from with the Amazon/iTunes thing. I never buy music online, so the point is moot.
4. Concerts, classical (which I admittedly don't listen to), Pink Floyd, continuous mixes, albums like 'Love' by The Beatles and Soulwax by 2manyDJs. There are a lot of gapless albums out there. It's not just a particular genre. Check out the 'Chilled' series my Ministry of Sound or The K&D sessions for something gapless and more downtempo.
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Cool my girl just got an HD7 and when she's trying to put all her music it keeps saying not enough memory....its only 4gigs of music did you have any problems putting music on your phone.
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Have you looked in the settings on Zune? There's an option to reserve a percentage of the phone space. That restricts Zune's ability to fill your device up in case it means you don't have any space left to install applications, receive data etc.
After suggestions about different encoders and ID3 tags, I've carried out some different file tests, to see if it made a difference. These are the formats I tried, all ripped from an original CD (DJ mix gapless):
Ripped using iTunes - M4A (AAC), MP3 with ID3 tags changed to v1.0, MP3 with ID3 tags changed to v2.4.
Ripped using Max - MP3, M4A.
I also tried some downloaded music that I've no idea what encoder was used.
After trying the 5 different file types and the other music, there is no gapless playback whatsoever.
It seems the Zune component on WP7 just doesn't support it. Whether an update will include gapless, I've no idea, but here's hoping.
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After suggestions about different encoders and ID3 tags, I've carried out some different file tests, to see if it made a difference. These are the formats I tried, all ripped from an original CD (DJ mix gapless):
Ripped using iTunes - M4A (AAC), MP3 with ID3 tags changed to v1.0, MP3 with ID3 tags changed to v2.4.
Ripped using Max - MP3, M4A.
I also tried some downloaded music that I've no idea what encoder was used.
After trying the 5 different file types and the other music, there is no gapless playback whatsoever.
It seems the Zune component on WP7 just doesn't support it. Whether an update will include gapless, I've no idea, but here's hoping.
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Are you using DRM music? Gapless is broken with DRM for Zune HD and I assume WP7 as well...for non DRM gapless works perfect on my zune HD(don't have a WP7 yet)...I'm sure it's just a matter of time to get that fixed if it's not working on wp7...
I can't see how anyone could compare the zune experience to the ios music experience...apple has not done anything with their media playback since the iphone was released...the zune is a far better media player
Yeah, I read about the Zune HD/DRM thing. All of my music is DRM-free and I don't have any paid downloads. Also, the music I tried tonight was taken straight from a CD.
I think Apple got more right to start with, so they've not had to update the iPod component in iOS. Gapless (obviously), auto-levelling (Sound Check) and search are all present on iOS, but lacking on WP7 so far. The UI is very nice though and it flows along well. Sound quality on my HD7 is a definite step up from my iPhone too. This is using the same Denon earbuds of course.
As a complete Zune virgin, how often are the updates?
gaps are annoying to me on live albums, but not show stoppers, hopefully they fix it.
normally I'm on shuffle all though, so it is a low priority issue for me
Gen 1 Zune feedback on updates
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Yeah, I read about the Zune HD/DRM thing. All of my music is DRM-free and I don't have any paid downloads. Also, the music I tried tonight was taken straight from a CD.
I think Apple got more right to start with, so they've not had to update the iPod component in iOS. Gapless (obviously), auto-levelling (Sound Check) and search are all present on iOS, but lacking on WP7 so far. The UI is very nice though and it flows along well. Sound quality on my HD7 is a definite step up from my iPhone too. This is using the same Denon earbuds of course.
As a complete Zune virgin, how often are the updates?
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I have had a Generation 1 Zune since they came out and updates come out just about as often as the Zune Windows desktop software- which is maybe once or twice a year. I've been very happy about updates for the Zune, but I imagine WP7 phone updates may be tied to the carrier (AT&T, T-Mo) and not the Zune desktop software itself.
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I have had a Generation 1 Zune since they came out and updates come out just about as often as the Zune Windows desktop software- which is maybe once or twice a year. I've been very happy about updates for the Zune, but I imagine WP7 phone updates may be tied to the carrier (AT&T, T-Mo) and not the Zune desktop software itself.
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I know it is an old thread, but MS stated it wants to do away from the carriers holding up the software updates, you shall see when the first batch of updates hits the platform.
I've been using the Zune desktop client since 1.0 and I love it. Fresh UI and experience. But I wonder how you, the xda community, feel about Zune?
I just started using it in preparation for getting my WP7 phone and so far I like it, but it has a lot of "missing features" that I'm looking for in a media player/manager. I was using Media Player before Zune, and most of the options available in MP are not in Zune, such as ripped file names.
I have been useing Zune since I got a Zune HD last year and I must say its the king bar iTunes remit on the iPod touch it beats iTunes in every department. It make organizing media so easy and stylish
Zune software is great! 2 things i don't like are:
1. The Album Art is not hard written onto the mp3 file, and imho it should
2. Unable to install apps on the WP7 phone if you got the app from the phone marketplace and not the desktop marketplace. They should change that.
Probably the best iTunes alternative out there, but I don't like that WP7 is locked to using only Zune. Besides that, the software is excellent and just looks amazing.
It would be more awesome if Microsoft would also add the option of syncing Office docs and PDFs with your phone via Zune.
I know cloud storage is awesome and all but the damn ATT caps make me cry. 200MB for $15.... u gotta be fcuking kidding me
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I've been using the Zune desktop client since 1.0 and I love it. Fresh UI and experience. But I wonder how you, the xda community, feel about Zune?
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I've always liked the looks and how it works, but I hated being able to use only one file type. I had two Zunes at the time...now have an 8GB flash and my HD7...and because of capacity limits, I would use a lower quality or smaller file-size format for my flash Zune and a higher quality format for my 80GB Zune. Only problem, the desktop software will only allow one format at a time...unless you go through the trouble of changing filenames and tag data. iTunes allows an unlimited number of formats...compatible, I mean.
i like it theres a couple things here and there im still trying to figure out like how do you burn songs thats you currently have playing in a now playing list
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Zune software is great! 2 things i don't like are:
1. The Album Art is not hard written onto the mp3 file, and imho it should
2. Unable to install apps on the WP7 phone if you got the app from the phone marketplace and not the desktop marketplace. They should change that.
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Zune can hardwire an image onto the mp3s. All you have to do is go into "collections" right click on your album "change art".
It will link new art into every single file. At least that's what happened with one of my albums.
Been using it ever since I got my Zune HD as well and it's pretty much all I know.
Windows media player is kinda blah but sometimes you have to go back to it to convert files and such. Flac and lossless tend to not show up on Zune as well even though I can see the file and play it on media player.
Other than that, busting open the zune desktop client on my 42" tv when my friends are around is always fun.
Great
Runs much faster than iTunes on my pcs. More intuitive ui for me (I know this VERY subjective). Zune pass is an incredible deal - especially with the 10 permanent downloads.
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I absolutely hated it! I got my nephew an Iphone a while back so I had been using Itunes. Itunes had to be the worst media software I have ever used. That was until last week when I got my Focus. When I loaded my music into Zune, all I got back was a steamin pile of crap. Being a huge rap fan, my collection consists of a bunch of freestyles and mixtapes. Zune had no clue. Media Player on the other hand keep everything in order. After working on retagging and editing for the past wek, I've learned to like it. Started Itunes yesterday for my nephew, Oh god Itunes is awful.
Zune offers than iTunes in the way of features but iTunes is infinitely better organized and intuitive. Edit: iTunes for OS X. iTunes for PC is utter garbage.
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Zune can hardwire an image onto the mp3s. All you have to do is go into "collections" right click on your album "change art".
It will link new art into every single file. At least that's what happened with one of my albums.
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this does link the art and its great but its true the info is stored on a database and not the mp3 as they remain untouched, I love that they don't mess with the actual file but as I also use other mediums to play music it does annoy me i have to sedit tags twice
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I just started using it in preparation for getting my WP7 phone and so far I like it, but it has a lot of "missing features" that I'm looking for in a media player/manager. I was using Media Player before Zune, and most of the options available in MP are not in Zune, such as ripped file names.
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Zune is to Windows Media Player what iTunes is to QuickTime.
That's not the point of Zune.
The point of it is to manage the phone, play the media on the phone/your libraries, and access content on the market place (media, apps, etc.).
It's not designed to be a dedicated media player that replaces Windows Media Player in Windows.
Maybe in Windows 8 they will go that route, but I heavily doubt they will.
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Zune offers than iTunes in the way of features but iTunes is infinitely better organized and intuitive. Edit: iTunes for OS X. iTunes for PC is utter garbage.
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Since PCs have 90%+ marketshare, I think it's fair to say iTunes is utter garbage. QuickTime/iTunes is like malware on a Windows PC.
I've had three zunes in my time.
First was a white 30gb. Loved it, stolen from work sadly.
Second was a brown Zune 30 with the 60gb hdd mod. Loved it as well. But my nephew found it and a cup of coke...
Third I had was a Zune 80. Probably my favorite that I've had. Got my Instinct, so I didn't need my Zune anymore. So I sold it.
I loved the Zune software though. Best I've used.
Same as above, have had 2 Zune 80's, now a Zune 120 (I have a long commute, have them hardwired into my M3's Alpine) so I'm quite used to it. Hate iTunes that I have to have on the PC for the Wife's ipod and ipad. I have thousands of concerts that I add custom art to (and add id3 tags with another tool), no issues. Reliable and fast too. I do look forward to the day MS add's Office/Outlook integration.
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Since PCs have 90%+ marketshare, I think it's fair to say iTunes is utter garbage. QuickTime/iTunes is like malware on a Windows PC.
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So goes your opinion. In my house PCs comprise 50%, Macs the other 50% and iTunes on a Mac is much better than Zune on a PC in many ways.
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So goes your opinion. In my house PCs comprise 50%, Macs the other 50% and iTunes on a Mac is much better than Zune on a PC in many ways.
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Most people don't care about hour house. They care about the market as a whole.
Some people probably have a house full of Taiwanese Android Tablets with Resistive Touchscreens and Tablets but that doesn't make them better than a Galaxy Tab.
I never said iTunes wasn't good on Mac, and it certainly isn't as intuitive as Zune although that IS opinion.
The fact that QuickTime/iTunes is terrible on Windows is just that. It's pushed primarily by iOS products which make a Windows version compulsory due to Windows dominance, but that's about it.
QuickTime (later iTunes) have had the same issues on Windows forever, some being:
1. Hijacking File Associations and Browser Mime types (Easier to Remedy in Vista/7, but in Win3.1-XP this was a big problem that required a non-trivial level of computer knowledge, back then, to remedy).
2. Completely disregards Windows User Interface Guidelines (Apple would not allow such an Application in their MacOS store, yet they feel the need to push their terrible user interface on Windows Users - terrible because it looks utterly foreign).
3. Performance is terrible (but people with high end systems may not feel that, hardware can solve lots of problems).
4. Installing crapware on people's computers: Crappy Printer Sharing App, Apple Updater that is worse than Adobe or HP's, not to mention it takes up as much space as Microsoft Office.
Now... iTunes is better on Macs for the same reason Windows Media Player/Media Center is better on Windows than many competing products. It's developed by the OS vendor, has great OS-level integration, matches the look and feel. Everything just fits nicely.
But iTunes is not that great. It's umbiquitous (for reasons stated above), but not great.
iTunes probably would be about 40% less bad if it wasn't so dependent on QuickTime.
90% of the people who run iTunes on Windows do it because they have an iTouch, iPod, or iPhone. Apple was really good about how they handled that. You need iTunes for pretty much everything on those devices. You hardly hear them even bring up their crappy QuickTime player (at least on Windows Machines... it's practically a system component on Macs along with iTunes).
Hey guys, i don't know about you, but i have a TON of FLAC audio files which i would love to play on my phone. But, the issue is that Zune wont recognize it. I created a suggestion and if you feel the same way, you should vote for it to be implemented in future updates.
http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/forums/101801-feature-suggestions/suggestions/2304622-enable-flac-and-other-lossless-formats?ref=title
That's why I stopped using Zune.
I have no idea why Microsoft decided to not support FLAC in Zune but someone in the Zune camp needs a kick in the backside.
Anyone with a half descent sound system can here the difference between a mp3 and FLAC file.
This is a lost cause. There's no way Microsoft will ever support open source codec's such as FLAC or MKV. Not only are these codecs undermining their MPEG-LA licensing efforts but using them will look weird when they start suing people for infringing on Microsoft's patents using these free ones.
Use WMA lossless.
I highly doubt you have such great gear tied to your phone that a 320 MP3 won't do.
It's not so much about the quality through the phone...I don't care about it, but many people like me, have really big FLAC libraries. I have absolutely no intention to convert these huge libraries to a lossy format because I listen to them through high end sound systems in my home. So, I just want Zune to recognize any flac file I throw into it, like it was an mp3, and be able to manage these libraries through Zune, even if it has to convert the tracks I sync with it to mp3. I wonder why everybody thinks that it's only an issue about the quality through the phone...It's more of an organizing issue...I want to be able to browse my libraries like everyone else and sync the files I want through Zune...
I can certainly understand the wish and frustration. But it's not going to happen. So you better learn to live with it or choose another OS.
There is a chance that an OEM can do it though, so you may have better luck letting them know.
hard drive space is cheap, why not convert it all for Zune, while retaining the flac files for use with other devices
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Actually, I can't imagine what other devices may support flac but not support aac/wma lossless.
Muvolt said:
It's not so much about the quality through the phone...I don't care about it, but many people like me, have really big FLAC libraries. I have absolutely no intention to convert these huge libraries to a lossy format because I listen to them through high end sound systems in my home. So, I just want Zune to recognize any flac file I throw into it, like it was an mp3, and be able to manage these libraries through Zune, even if it has to convert the tracks I sync with it to mp3. I wonder why everybody thinks that it's only an issue about the quality through the phone...It's more of an organizing issue...I want to be able to browse my libraries like everyone else and sync the files I want through Zune...
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I Know how you feel I have over 2 TB of saved files that I spent days converting.
I will just keep using foobar or something similar.
For the record most of the music sold by HDtracks is FLAC.
frankly speaking I prefer FLAC than mp3 but as for now what I can hear is Lossless WMA
In the past I've used iSyncr to handle iTunes transfers over to my Galaxy S2.
Will this app still work with the Nexus?
If not, how are you guys getting your iTunes playlists/music onto the Galaxy Nexus?
I use iSyncr WiFi, works fine
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My Sync is said to work well too. Though I have not personally tried this function on it. I use it for WiFi backup.
I'll rather use Google Music makes life soooooo much easier
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I'll rather use Google Music makes life soooooo much easier
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+1 on that Google Music is what made me pull the trigger on buying a 16gb nexus. I no longer need tons of space on a phone to hold all my music!
I just gave up on iTunes syncing. I hated Doubletwist, so now I just drag and drop. I also spend less time with my music library because of Spotify. Also, check out Salling Media Sync. Its available in the Mac App Store. Its expensive, but I've heard good things about it.
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I'll rather use Google Music makes life soooooo much easier
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right here!
And music takes no space on phone.... the best.
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I'll rather use Google Music makes life soooooo much easier
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Same. Been using for months. Its awesome.
Can't use Google music in the OK. Very dissapointing!
i use subsonic on my linux server instead
Just to add my tuppence
Being a recent convert to the Android fold (brand new GN - still awaiting update ), and having used iTunes/iPhone for too long, I felt the need to find an app that would let me sync iTunes playlists.
I tried a shed-load of apps; doubletwist was pure crap (IMHO) and not worth the effort, WinAmp might "really whip the llama's ass" but didn't "really know how to sync a playlist" well enough to warrant me keeping it.
I then found iSyncr and the WiFi plugin and these did exactly what they said they would, seamlessly and effortlessly. The free version would only sync 30 tracks per playlist so the paltry price they were asking for it seemed worth it to me.
As for the Google Music point... not available to UK users yet but there is a very simple workaround, just waiting to set this up on my phone.
I second the Subsonic recommendation. It's been around for a while, use it on my phone, browser, wife's iphone.
It does what Google Music does, but you have more control and I believe it does video too. It definitely isn't as easy to setup and use as GM though, so a big caveat there.
iSyncR WiFi sync didn't work for me. I then used DoubleTwist Air Sync to sync. Worked well. The playlists are recognized by PowerAmp, so all is good (as I dislike the DoubleTwist player).
hey, i used iSyncR too, but a lot of songs in the playlists are missing (not only the bought ones) and some pictures are not at the right songs. that really sucks. you may have an alternetive for me? in germany google music is not available now;( besides you always need a good connection for streaming.
thx for answers
OK here's the problem
As you all know Google went the IDIOT route and chose to give us a 32gb and 128gb option
128gb sold out QUICK so of course some of us are stuck with a 32gb phone
So naturally I bought a type c flash drive to store my music
The problem is I can only play it through a file manager like "Solid Explorer"
Yes this works but it isn't intuitive AT ALL
You can't browse other songs while one is playing among other essential needs
I used the "USB Media Explorer" app and yea that worked but it is hideous
I wanted to know if there was a way we can get "Google play music" or another DECENT music app to be able to read the flash drive when plugged in
Anybody recognize this problem and have any luck so far?
Dude, Poweramp. Why would anyone use any other music player on Android? I've tried them all and it definately reigns supreme imo
yea power amp should work u can select the music folders.
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Dude, Poweramp. Why would anyone use any other music player on Android? I've tried them all and it definately reigns supreme imo
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RocketPlayer - because it integrates directly with iSyncr and allows me to rate songs directly on my phone, which are then passed back to iTunes on my Mac.
Why Poweramp other than because it 'reigns'?
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Dude, Poweramp. Why would anyone use any other music player on Android? I've tried them all and it definately reigns supreme imo
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I personally prefer Google Play Music since I have thousands of songs on there and don't store any songs on my device.
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I personally prefer Google Play Music since I have thousands of songs on there and don't store any songs on my device.
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The entire point of this is to have files stored locally so you don't have to use a data connection to play them.
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The entire point of this is to have files stored locally so you don't have to use a data connection to play them.
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The author didn't state that.
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The author didn't state that.
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Well the way it reads.. he wants to play local music files.
Maybe he doesn't know Google play let's you store 10k songs on their servers... That's the reason the pixel is 32 gigs with no external storage... Google has cloud solutions for all media. And if streaming is a issue because your not on a unlimited plan then the 128 gig is the way to go or another phone.
Google really F'd up the ability to play music files from external storage.
I've been pissed about it for a couple years now.
There is some usb_stick_mount app that someone like Chainfire or someone else developed.
It helps a little but was designed for older images.
Dammit, I'm all pissed again now just thinking about how badly Google F'd up on this external storage (USB drive or USB stick) access.
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Dude, Poweramp. Why would anyone use any other music player on Android? I've tried them all and it definately reigns supreme imo
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+1 for poweramp
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Maybe he doesn't know Google play let's you store 10k songs on their servers... That's the reason the pixel is 32 gigs with no external storage... Google has cloud solutions for all media. And if streaming is a issue because your not on a unlimited plan then the 128 gig is the way to go or another phone.
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Cloud storage is fine great and dandy, except it uses my data
True, but for the record Play Music has an option to play music stores locally too. It does work fine
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The entire point of this is to have files stored locally so you don't have to use a data connection to play them.
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I know Google Music has the option to download songs to external sd card. I wonder if the flash drive would allow that too.
Yeah, I hear the OP. I ended up giving in about a year ago and went all streaming instead of local files. I have Verizon and yeah I pay a bit more but I have a hefty shared data plan and my fiance uses very little of it, so I never get into trouble with data limits.
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OK here's the problem
As you all know Google went the IDIOT route and chose to give us a 32gb and 128gb option
128gb sold out QUICK so of course some of us are stuck with a 32gb phone
So naturally I bought a type c flash drive to store my music
The problem is I can only play it through a file manager like "Solid Explorer"
Yes this works but it isn't intuitive AT ALL
You can't browse other songs while one is playing among other essential needs
I used the "USB Media Explorer" app and yea that worked but it is hideous
I wanted to know if there was a way we can get "Google play music" or another DECENT music app to be able to read the flash drive when plugged in
Anybody recognize this problem and have any luck so far?
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Why couldn't you wait until the 128 was in stock? That's what I did.
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Poweramp doesnt let you choose the correct path
The music from a flashdrive is in mnt/media_rw and thats not an option
I tried poweramp and musixmatch
And for everybody bringing up streaming or cloud storage which also needs to stream
Im from NYC and im on the subway VERY OFTEN i cannot stream underground and i dont want to download my music from google play for obvious reasons
I bought the flashdrive in order to free up storage
I just want to be able to have a decent good looking music app play music from my flashdrive
I seriously dont understand how this isnt natively supported
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Why couldn't you wait until the 128 was in stock? That's what I did.
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Idk how u got yours because that **** is sold out to this day lol
Pixel xl is sold out in 128gb in both colors and has been since launch it seems like
Oh and one more thing poweramp is ugly as hell lol
Reminds me of android in 2009 lol
I tried it anyway tho because i was desperate but no luck
I ordered mine through Project Fi. And got it within 4 days. I ordered it towards the end of November close to black Friday.