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I've recently released an app that uses Google's new multi-user accounts feature to share apps between the different users on your device (without each of them requiring a separate Google account).
It's called AppShare(+) and you can get it here (requires root):
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.spectrl.appshare
You can download apps on your main user account as usual, and then use AppShare to simply select which users you want to have access to the app.
This also works for "unsharing" (disabling) apps for users. For example, you could disable the Gmail, or Play Store apps for a 'Guest' user account.
As a bonus, you can also use the app to disable (but not uninstall) system or user apps on your main account, freeing up resources and potentially speeding up your device.
It was designed and optimised for tablets (tested on a Nexus 7), however it will also work on phones that have multi-user support enabled through a custom ROM.
Even though I am using the same method that the Android system uses to enable/disable apps, some system apps react in a weird way to being disabled and sometimes re-appear.
I have found that disabling certain system apps works best on a "fresh" account – i.e. A new user which hasn't had a Google account previously set up on it.
There are a couple more limitations, but I would suggest that you read the Play Store description for the full run down...
I have tested it as thoroughly as I can, but please let me know if you run into any problems.
I'd love to hear what you think and get some feedback.
Thanks!
I've been getting a fair amount of crash reports lately and it looks like the cause is a missing file related to Google's multi-user implementation which I assumed would be on everyone's device, in the same place.
It appears that it is not there on some devices, causing my app to crash, so I would really appreciate it if I could get a few people to check and confirm that they have the file /data/system/users/userlist.xml on their device?
You can check using any file explorer with root, or using the adb shell terminal if you know how!
Thanks for your help in making the app better.
I do have userlist.xml in that location; running 4.2.2, updated OTA from 4.2.1.
Currently using "Multi-User App Share" for this feature without problem, but I'll keep and eye on this project and see if it's worth the change.
Psoulocybe said:
I do have userlist.xml in that location; running 4.2.2, updated OTA from 4.2.1.
Currently using "Multi-User App Share" for this feature without problem, but I'll keep and eye on this project and see if it's worth the change.
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Thanks for that.
My app seems to be working great for the majority of users (myself included) but there seems to be a handful of people running into problems because the app can't find that file...
I'm struggling to figure out why though?! The only explanation I've got so far is that they could be using custom ROMs which messes with multi-user in some way.
You should try out AppShare, its free so you've got nothing to lose!
Inexplicable autonomous app update behavior when plugged in & wifi on. A real puzzle.
Facts:
1) Two phones, Pixel 3 and 3 XL, latest patches. Both rooted, running ElementalX and Magisk. Both have same apps installed and settings.
2) Playstore "Auto-update" is disabled, set to "Don't auto-update apps".
3) Play Protect is fully disabled.
4) TiBu has no scheduled jobs
5) No threat/system scanner running
Behavior background:
1) Started noticing a few months ago (so not a patch update issue).
2) Happens only when phone is charging and wifi on (I have wifi set to turn on when plugged in, I have not isolated whether it is caused by one or the other, or both).
3) Seems to happen around/between 10:20 PM and 11:20 PM PST, based on file timestamp.
4) Does not happen every night. I charge the phone (therefore wifi turns on during charge) every night). I have not been able to find a pattern.
The strange behavior I cannot explain:
1) When it happens, a few (can be 1, 2, or 5) apps are found to have been updated on their own.
2) However, these apps are not shown updated in the Playstore and their version remained the same.
3) When I go to data/app, these apps look like they are updated based on time/date stamp (from the night before).
4) However, their version number has not changed, Playstore does not show a recent update.
5) It does not matter when the app was last truly updated or installed. Even disabled app will get this "ghost re-install/update". Apps seem to be picked randomly.
In sum, I find a few apps that get randomly self-updated, but they were really not updated. The version has changed and Playstore does not know anything about it (not on update list). Also, version has not changed. In fact, though, their timestamp show that it was updated.
Here is the kicker--I see the behavior in both phones. AND, they are the same (at least about the same list of) apps that get the "ghost update". If I don't plug in one phone to charge (and wifi not on), that phone does not get the update until the next time it is plugged in.
W-T-F???
What are the apps? Is it always the same ones?
Seemingly random apps, both user-installed and system (e.g., Chrome, Data Transfer Tool). I have not been able to detect a pattern on which app gets this ghost update. I started noticing this late December, best guess.
I almost don't want to even bring this issue back up since I haven't noticed it in a couple of months. I was noticing it a lot on all 6 of my devices (including Pixel 3XL and Pixel 3) because I would go to Titanium Backup and see apps showing as due for backup of a new version. Nothing showed in Play Store, and the App description on Play showed the same version as before with the old last updated date. Either they have fixed it or hidden it better, but it seamed to be some sort of security patch at an app level. Here are a couple of old threads including my Google thread and a couple of reddit threads. I still have an open support case on it, but since it stopped happening and different folks at Google kept ignoring my replies to the man suggesting stupid-a$$ things (like factory resetting my devices and signing off and on with a new user on different devices) I just dropped it.
P.S. I never did notice the plugged in thing, but that is not to say it wasn't happening. I was asleep when it happened as far as I know.
https://productforums.google.com/fo...rce=footer#!msg/play/Pgzokc69Qt8/9V1n27ONBwAJ
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/co...lently_updating_some_apps_even_when/?sort=new
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/co...lently_updating_some_apps_even_when/?sort=new
Found this, too, but it's from 2013: https://arstechnica.com/information...ng-android-apps-possibly-including-facebooks/
sliding_billy said:
I almost don't want to even bring this issue back up since I haven't noticed it in a couple of months. I was noticing it a lot on all 6 of my devices (including Pixel 3XL and Pixel 3) because I would go to Titanium Backup and see apps showing as due for backup of a new version. Nothing showed in Play Store, and the App description on Play showed the same version as before with the old last updated date. Either they have fixed it or hidden it better, but it seamed to be some sort of security patch at an app level. Here are a couple of old threads including my Google thread and a couple of reddit threads. I still have an open support case on it, but since it stopped happening and different folks at Google kept ignoring my replies to the man suggesting stupid-a$$ things (like factory resetting my devices and signing off and on with a new user on different devices) I just dropped it.
P.S. I never did notice the plugged in thing, but that is not to say it wasn't happening. I was asleep when it happened as far as I know.
https://productforums.google.com/fo...rce=footer#!msg/play/Pgzokc69Qt8/9V1n27ONBwAJ
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/co...lently_updating_some_apps_even_when/?sort=new
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/co...lently_updating_some_apps_even_when/?sort=new
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Found this, too, but it's from 2013: https://arstechnica.com/information...ng-android-apps-possibly-including-facebooks/
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Many thanks for the links. This is exactly what I am seeing. One of the posts in the link described the install as exact same apk and version. It is also what I see. It still does not explain what is going on behind the scenes, but at least it is good to know that I am not the only one seeing this. For most people, they are not aware. I see it because I use a backup app for newly installed apps. As such, everytime an app installed or updated, I get a notification.
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Many thanks for the links. This is exactly what I am seeing. One of the posts in the link described the install as exact same apk and version. It is also what I see. It still does not explain what is going on behind the scenes, but at least it is good to know that I am not the only one seeing this. For most people, they are not aware. I see it because I use a backup app for newly installed apps. As such, everytime an app installed or updated, I get a notification.
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No problem. I do wonder if your devices are new. As I mentioned, I have not seen this behavior in months on any of my devices. I do think it was an in place Google side security patch to the actual app installer or something that they can control from Play without modifying the app code itself, and if yours have not been modified yet it will catch up when it finishes all of the apps that need it.
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No problem. I do wonder if your devices are new. As I mentioned, I have not seen this behavior in months on any of my devices. I do think it was an in place Google side security patch to the actual app installer or something that they can control from Play without modifying the app code itself, and if yours have not been modified yet it will catch up when it finishes all of the apps that need it.
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Both of my devices were pre-order (from last year) and were activated as soon as I received them. Some of the newer apps that were updated this way were newer, like Pixel Tips and Data Transfer Tool. Apps like SmartThings, Lutron, and Pushover were recently updated normally through Playstore, but they were ghost updated a few days ago. If the theory were true, on these basis, it is unclear why Google would need to/want to update/re-update the apps this way.
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Both of my devices were pre-order (from last year) and were activated as soon as I received them. Some of the newer apps that were updated this way were newer, like Pixel Tips and Data Transfer Tool. Apps like SmartThings, Lutron, and Pushover were recently updated normally through Playstore, but they were ghost updated a few days ago. If the theory were true, on these basis, it is unclear why Google would need to/want to update/re-update the apps this way.
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Well the fact that your devices are a hair older than mine (I got my 3XL and 3 very shortly after public release) does quash that argument. The one thing I can think of that is still different is the detection method each of us has used. TB has been updated a few times in the past couple of months to start, and even if not Google could still be making changes that are not seen by TB. What backup app/notification process are you using?
Are these all Google apps or services? Many of them update outside of the app store on their own.
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Are these all Google apps or services? Many of them update outside of the app store on their own.
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No, it has happened to plenty of 3rd party apps both root apps and not.
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Well the fact that your devices are a hair older than mine (I got my 3XL and 3 very shortly after public release) does quash that argument. The one thing I can think of that is still different is the detection method each of us has used. TB has been updated a few times in the past couple of months to start, and even if not Google could still be making changes that are not seen by TB. What backup app/notification process are you using?
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Two apps I use that tells me when an app was installed/updated:
App Monster Pro ** "old version" https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.think_android.apps.appmonster.cloud
The current PS version, based on reviews, does not do what the old version does. The old version, which I continue to use, and works well, will make a backup of the installed apk any time an app is updated or installed. I can decide the number of revisions to keep. This allows me to roll back if I need to. The most helpful part, as it turns out, is knowing when an app is updated--even Playstore or other non-Playstore-installed apps will spawn a notification. The backup is in a plain apk, which makes it easy to transport and share.
The other tool is My Android Tools Pro -- https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-android-toolspro-one-fav-apps-t3262150
This app allows me to cut off broadcast receivers, disable services, manifest apk activities and content providers. It also includes a logcat viewer, process explorers, and more. Root is required. This app refined over time but was taken off of the Playstore. It does not appear to be maintained anymore, but still works well. I sort the app list based on newly installed apps and it clearly shows me what was truly and recently installed. I use the app to cut off broadcast receivers and services that relate to app measurement, install referrer, etc. For some apps, I cut off the startup receiver. They help to keep occasionally used apps from launching needlessly. Other may have opinions, but these methods work well for me.
Lastly, I used Root Explorer to verify the app install dates (per post 1).
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Adding to post #3, they are both Google and 3rd-party apps. The publisher of the app does not appear to matter.
snovvman said:
Two apps I use that tells me when an app was installed/updated:
App Monster Pro ** "old version" https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.think_android.apps.appmonster.cloud
The current PS version, based on reviews, does not do what the old version does. The old version, which I continue to use, and works well, will make a backup of the installed apk any time an app is updated or installed. I can decide the number of revisions to keep. This allows me to roll back if I need to. The most helpful part, as it turns out, is knowing when an app is updated--even Playstore or other non-Playstore-installed apps will spawn a notification. The backup is in a plain apk, which makes it easy to transport and share.
The other tool is My Android Tools Pro -- https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-android-toolspro-one-fav-apps-t3262150
This app allows me to cut off broadcast receivers, disable services, manifest apk activities and content providers. It also includes a logcat viewer, process explorers, and more. Root is required. This app refined over time but was taken off of the Playstore. It does not appear to be maintained anymore, but still works well. I sort the app list based on newly installed apps and it clearly shows me what was truly and recently installed. I use the app to cut off broadcast receivers and services that relate to app measurement, install referrer, etc. For some apps, I cut off the startup receiver. They help to keep occasionally used apps from launching needlessly. Other may have opinions, but these methods work well for me.
Lastly, I used Root Explorer to verify the app install dates (per post 1).
Adding to post #3, they are both Google and 3rd-party apps. The publisher of the app does not appear to matter.
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Starting to look more and more like Google is still making changes in the background but it is not being detected by any current backup apps. Since the two you were using have either been deprecated or abandoned, it's hard to say if Google has actually changed what was being updated or just the possibility of detection. Short of someone getting into the app code for a hard comparison between pre/post versions (beyond my skill set for sure), my guess is this is going to go unanswered since Google is clearly still making changes but not releasing the "why" or "what."
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Starting to look more and more like Google is still making changes in the background but it is not being detected by any current backup apps. Since the two you were using have either been deprecated or abandoned, it's hard to say if Google has actually changed what was being updated or just the possibility of detection. Short of someone getting into the app code for a hard comparison between pre/post versions (beyond my skill set for sure), my guess is this is going to go unanswered since Google is clearly still making changes but not releasing the "why" or "what."
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I agree. What I can say with certainty is that those apps were at least "reinstalled" because of the folder/file dates. Also, my two phones are seeing the same apps being updated. This suggests that there are some logic behind it.
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I agree. What I can say with certainty is that those apps were at least "reinstalled" because of the folder/file dates. Also, my two phones are seeing the same apps being updated. This suggests that there are some logic behind it.
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Yeah, the "updates" my not have happened at the same time (or even the same day) but eventually the apps that are shared on various devices would end up modified for me as well.
FSTRIM?
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FSTRIM?
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I am not using the FSTRIM app, and the fact that eventually all of the same apps (6 devices on various Android versions) would end up getting updated but not all apps makes it unlikely that native trimming is causing it.
These modules are made for personal use. If you have an issue it is likely on your end. It's like running OOS 10.5ish w/ OOS 11/Pixel 4 Pixel 5/9 Pro/server side features via a whole lot of sed. The "thoroughness" of this OP is to minimize the need for back and forth between us. All OOS 11-11.2.* should be supported. Remains to be seen what changes with Color OS based OOS.
Anxious OOS v502 features:
(Template - Magisk module installer)
Android 12.1 Emojis, Blurs, Immersive Navbar, Nova Launcher w/ Google Feed, Pixel 5 features (device personalization services, flags, google phone framework, overlays), Premier Tier, 9 Pro Camera
Anxious OOS Companion v346 features:
(Template - MMT-Ex 1.6)
Anxious Kernel Script - Infinite Pills, Infinite Alcohol | Gboard - Faster Voice Typing, Google Lens, M2 (telescoping gif, tenor autocomplete, trending search), No Spacebar Branding, Ogg Opus Encoder, Pill Shape, Pixel Props, SODA, Tenor V2 * Languages (autocomplete, trending term, suggested search term), Tflite (emoji predicition, main word predicition, triggering model), Translate Dictation | Google Duo - In Call Effects w/o FPS Cap, Message Captions, Opus FEC, Outgoing Call Camera Switch, Restrict Low Bandwidth Logging, Video Processing-Sink, VP9 Hardware, 720p (for most things) | Google Phone - Duo Handover, STIR/SHAKEN (carrier/os support required), VVM (all carriers) | Google Photos - Cache Aware Video, Jpeg Backup Quality 100%, New Video Editor Backend/Frontend w/ Export Frame
True Silent v2 features:
(Template - MMT-Ex 1.6)
Silent .ogg file for notifications. Useful for apps like Facebook Messenger that don't respect notification channels properly. Seperate module so less reselecting when debugging anxious module. Also doesn't need to be uninstalled with OTAs.
Verizon Plus Ultra v16 features:
(Template - MMT-Ex 1.6)
Fixes for using Verizon on the 7 Pro.
All feature lists are constantly changing. Not everything is listed. Because sometimes the modules put you front in line for a/b server testing of literally anything Google.
The embedded links for some features are just links to what I consider to be a good enough explainaiton of the feature.
Google is your friend, I am not.
Support:
Basically none. This is made for my personal use. If you don't follow the instructions, you'll probably end up in a non-boot/bootloop.
What I'm Using:
Kernel - Kirisakura 1.3.9 R
Magisk - Stable
Rom - 11.0.4.1.GM21AA (7 Pro)
Do not use Open Beta/AOSP/LOS/etc... with my modules.
There are no special instructions for updating, unless stated otherwise in a release post. The below install instructions are not meant to be followed for updating.
Prerequisites:
You need "Busybox for Android NDK" and I strongly recommend "Cross Compiled Binaries" with sed installed to /system/bin. They are on the magisk module repo.
How to install:
1. Read entire OP. Reread entire OP. Do it again.
2. Install "Overlay Mount Fix". Skip to next step, if it fails to install.
3. Uninstall Google Framework/Phone, and/or Nova Companion apk, if any/all are installed. Go to the Play Store listing for Device Personalization Services and click uninstall, if it's available. Reboot, if you uninstalled any modules. There are probably other modules you should uninstall. But that's your problem, not mine.
4. Install "AnxiousOOS_v*.zip". (Magisk Manager only)
5. Reboot.
6. Install Google Phone as user app, you can use apk from companion module, from apkmirror, or clear Play Store data and then it should be offered by the play store.
7. Clear Play Store data if you didn't in step 6. Then update apps that now have an update in the Play Store.
8. Set up Device Personalization Services, Google Phone, i.e. grant all permissions (including "Draw over other apps" and "Modify system settings"), set as default phone app, spam app (search "spam" in settings), open app and set up available features. Don't forget to check all Settings>Apps and notifications>Special app access and check all of them for the aforementioned apps + Google apps (hit overflow menu and show system).
9. Install "AnxiousOOSCompanion_v*.zip". (Magisk Manager only)
10. Reboot.
11. Clear Play Store data
12. You profit.
13. Donate.
14. I profit.
15. Install Verizon specific module. Reboot. Reset APN defaults (search "sim" in settings, 1st suggestion>sim 1>access point names>overflow menu), if using Verizon module.
16. Call Screen/Hold For Me.
17. 100% jpeg quality.
Download(s) faq:
Q: Can you provide a mirror?
A: No.
Q: Why?
A: Mega is very mobile friendly and collects no metrics, I can't even track the number of downloads!
Changelog:
Will be available on each release post. I will not compile a changelog in one post.
Magisk:
Don't use anything older than the latest stable magisk.
Tips/Troubleshooting:
You should check "Settings>
Security & lock screen>Google Play system update" for an update. My modules might enable being on the latest. Might not.
If any app is reported as unsupported in the Play Store then clear the Play Store's data. It should work after that but a reboot might be needed sometimes.
Google has the ability to break pretty much anything with server side updates.
Clean installs of roms will probably have better outcomes, if it didn't work.
The app that live caption exists in, is called "Device Personalization Services". If it's not available you need to manually enable the service. I recommend this app manager. While you're at it you should enable all activities, providers, receivers, services. I also suggest using App Ops and Shizuku (required for App Ops functionality). All the linked apps also make debugging/troubleshooting easier.
Random:
You should read the Magisk documentation and MMT-Ex wiki.
Thank you
A lot has changed compared to the old instructions, so I'll gradually update the OP to reflect helpful FAQ, improved instructions, etc...
I also may have figured out how to get the latest Google Play system update. But that's unconfirmed. Since I don't have (or want) testers.
Welcome back! I'm glad to see you back on here hope that whatever you had going on in your life was resolved.
ImjustSaiyan92 said:
Welcome back! I'm glad to see you back on here hope that whatever you had going on in your life was resolved.
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At least 10 years off till a refutable research facility would even consider injecting my retina with stem cells. And I won't have a diagnosis on my lung nodules for months or longer. But it would be the slowest growing metastatic colon to lung cancer my oncologist has ever seen but I currently have my bets on a benign inflammatory condition or pulmonary fibrosis as a result of chemotherapy. Haven't found a bookie to take my bets, yet...
But now I can be hella rude to people who don't read with the two eyes they have because I essentially have one eye lol.
Thanks for this, finally.
What is soda, pills and alcohol about?
twoxa said:
Thanks for this, finally.
What is soda, pills and alcohol about?
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Speech on device API and utter nonsense (it's also a song, that is absolutely appropriate to post on the family friendly environment of XDA)
I installed it the way it was explained .. but what was to change .. did not see change ..
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I installed it the way it was explained .. but what was to change .. did not see change ..
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Then you did it wrong.
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Then you did it wrong.
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I'm just not using the Kirisakura kernel ..
douglasmietto said:
I'm just not using the Kirisakura kernel ..
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Or following the instructions.
You're not going to get any helpful support from me with one sentence posts that demonstrate you didn't follow instructions lol.
There are many "it"s you must install. And not everything is in the OP because I shouldn't have to tell users on a developer forum that something like a Terminal app is required when I say modules are needed as prerequisites that require a Terminal app for set up of those prerequisites.
The kernel has absolutely no effect on making this work or not. And you thinking so demonstrates the "learning curve" for my instructions are to difficult for you.
You're going to waste your time if you're gonna spend time trying to get the right kernel for something that doesn't need a right kernel.
yes it was installed .. what changed the alarm clock .. changed the calculator and install the google phone from the play store ... so you mean it is not a simple magisk module? have other necessary settings through a terminal to work correctly?
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yes it was installed .. what changed the alarm clock .. changed the calculator and install the google phone from the play store ... so you mean it is not a simple magisk module? have other necessary settings through a terminal to work correctly?
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I'm saying you can't even read my OP with two eyes, and I have one eye...
I will not be responding to you anymore.
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I'm saying you can't even read my OP with two eyes, and I have one eye...
I will not be responding to you anymore.
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I followed exactly all the steps of the op .. and I noticed that the rom got a little faster .. I'm sorry if I asked any stupid questions .. I didn't want to cause you any trouble
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I followed exactly all the steps of the op .. and I noticed that the rom got a little faster .. I'm sorry if I asked any stupid questions .. I didn't want to cause you any trouble
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If you expected some drastic visual changes this isn't it haha
So far so good here, nice having working voicemail in Google phone app.
"& "Cross Compiled Binaries" with the bare minimum of sed installed to /system/bin. They are on the magisk module repo."
Can you elaborate here? What's sed? And why they should be installed?
Installed it, everything was working except one snag, my settings was FCing everytime I tried to go to the app section.
It's something on my end most likely as I am using Bliss (which is different than your rom,) and it probably isn't compatible.
Love the work regardless and again I'm glad to see you back!
ImjustSaiyan92 said:
Installed it, everything was working except one snag, my settings was FCing everytime I tried to go to the app section.
It's something on my end most likely as I am using Bliss (which is different than your rom,) and it probably isn't compatible.
Love the work regardless and again I'm glad to see you back!
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This is the kind of user I like.
douglasmietto said:
calm friend .. i don't know why so much stress if you're nervous go fishing to relax .. if you don't want to answer questions about your work, just don't post to the XDA group.
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Why are you on a developer forum asking to be spoon fed information?
I lately get A LOT of warnings that something is using microphone, during apps, and even in lockscreen.
I don't have the always on permission on any app.
Is it the same for you? How can I check the causes?
gpvecchi said:
I lately get A LOT of warnings that something is using microphone, during apps, and even in lockscreen.
I don't have the always on permission on any app.
Is it the same for you? How can I check the causes?
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Uninstall Google Translate.
Have you tried going into settings privacy and then permissions manager and see what it says for microphone
gpvecchi said:
I lately get A LOT of warnings that something is using microphone, during apps, and even in lockscreen.
I don't have the always on permission on any app.
Is it the same for you? How can I check the causes?
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Now playing, google assistant hotword, voice access, live caption, live transcribe, sound amplifier, sound notifications... there are so many features that use the microphone in the background. Are you absolutely sure that you deactivated ALL of them? And those are only the pre-installed Google Pixel features.
What kind of apps have you installed?
A post like that is not very helpful, there is simply not enough information. There can be a thousand reasons as to why the microphones get accessed in the background.
I had the same thing happening to me, then I was scrolling through Developer options one day and realized that the "Shared Data" option was highlighted, so I clicked ot and there were like 3 million "snippets" from Google translate in there. I never even OPENED the app since I got my phone. I uninstalled Google Translate and that option got greyed out. Check your developer options and see if that's highlighted.
Thanks guys, the only app that used mic in privacy settings is Google app...
gpvecchi said:
Thanks guys, the only app that used mic in privacy settings is Google app...
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I guess that's good since it makes it less likely that you've installed a rogue app.
I think Google has gotten better with privacy, and can still do considerably better, but your title is wrong and misleading.
As others have noted above, Google needs access to your mike to be able to provide a bunch of its features, like Assistant and Playing Now. You can turn these off if you don't want the mike on.
Google controls the OS, s if they really wanted to "spy" on you, they would not be throwing warnings...
Where's your faraday hat?
Google's business is spying on you.
Best tips:
Root your device, cut away any/all Google apps and services as well as other malware like Facebook and replace them with alternatives except the few you can't live without.
Install a tool like App Manager (from F-droid) and strictly set permissions for everything running on your device
Run LSPosed+Xprivacy modules (requires Riru) and block out unwanted access from both apps and system processes.
If you are worried about your privacy then i am not sure buying a google product is the best place to start to protect it if i am honest.
bencozzy said:
GrapheneOS??? Sandboxes gapps in a separate user profile.
Root adds additional vulnerabilities.
Root works for devices that don't have aftermarket firmwares to degoogle but it weakens security.
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Root adds additional vulnerabilities.
Nope
Root works for devices that don't have aftermarket firmwares to degoogle but it weakens security.
Nope
Andrologic said:
Root adds additional vulnerabilities.
Nope
Root works for devices that don't have aftermarket firmwares to degoogle but it weakens security.
Nope
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What are your first 5 apps you on LineageOS to get started on a brand new phone? I got slightly inspired by this thread:
What are the first five apps you install on Windows?
What are the first five apps you install on LOS?
Just for starters I have added some of mine but if an app is missing here that you always use, just drop a line here - I will add it (please see below).
Edit: Thanks @ethical_haquer and @MJPollard ! I think it might be best that I also start a list of mentioned apps, linked...
Edit#2: To clarify some things
1. Yes, I really mean first 5 after a fresh install - imagine you just finished flashing and you have to leave now. You have no time for downloading the many-gigabyte-maps of Europe, North America and Asia, just the most important first 5 to get you started.
2. No stuff that is google playstore only - imagine you have a new good 32 character password like Z5fcTcSp(5<q0RiZAv",-9~?j/X9C9LZ since yday and haven't memorized it yet.
3. If you want to have something added, see points 1 and 2 again and then drop not just the name but ideally also a link (I know some apps but surely not all of them).
AccA - Advanced Charging Controller App
https://f-droid.org/packages/mattecarra.accapp/
Aurora Store
https://f-droid.org/packages/com.aurora.store/
Bromite
https://github.com/bromite/bromite
Droid-ify
https://f-droid.org/packages/com.looker.droidify/
F-Droid
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-Droid
Firefox
https://f-droid.org/packages/org.mozilla.fennec_fdroid/
Magisk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magisk_(software)
MiXplorer
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...released-fully-featured-file-manager.1523691/
Neo Backup
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...pps-and-data-backup-tool-for-android.4167179/
NetGuard
https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard
Organic Maps
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_Maps
ProtonVPN
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/ch.protonvpn.android/
Retro Text Editor
https://no-go.github.io/TextThing/
SAI - Split APKs Installer
https://github.com/Aefyr/SAI
Shelter
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/net.typeblog.shelter/
SimpleX
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/chat.simplex.app/
Swift Backup
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...backup-apps-sms-call-logs-on-android.4394439/
Termux
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Termux
SigmundDroid said:
What are your first 5 apps you on LineageOS to get started on a brand new phone? I got slightly inspired by this thread:
What are the first five apps you install on Windows?
What are the first five apps you install on LOS?
Just for starters I have added some of mine but if an app is missing here that you always use, just drop a line here - I will add it.
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I just learned about MIXplorer! I'll have to try it out, looks cool. Trying to think if there's something else I install...
Swift Backup (in addition to Magisk), so that I can re-install all my apps from the cloud.
SigmundDroid said:
What are your first 5 apps you on LineageOS to get started on a brand new phone? I got slightly inspired by this thread:
What are the first five apps you install on Windows?
What are the first five apps you install on LOS?
Just for starters I have added some of mine but if an app is missing here that you always use, just drop a line here - I will add it.
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...and Termux! I can't believe I forgot, I always install it to use root and delete things (like system apps) using a terminal - I would definitely add it. I also use Organic Maps (personally I think it is the best open-source alternative to Google Maps) but I am not sure how popular it is. It's nice that everything on your list is open-source.
ethical_haquer said:
just learned about MIXplorer
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I was and still am shocked! I can only advise to get it, it's really THE swiss knife on phones! Perhaps not overly fancy but it does get the job done! What job? Any!
MJPollard said:
Swift Backup
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Yes, LOS own backup is just laughable, so my search ended up with Neo Backup. Had mixed results with restoring my data (but took this opportunity to start fresh, apps worked ok). Did you compare some backups or how did you end up with Swift? I can't recall seeing it before...
ethical_haquer said:
Termux
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Yes! A classic but never made it to my top 5, still a shame that dev options come no longer with a terminal (couldn't find in LOS19).
SigmundDroid said:
still a shame that dev options come no longer with a terminal (couldn't find in LOS19).
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I know! Like, what?
SigmundDroid said:
Yes, LOS own backup is just laughable, so my search ended up with Neo Backup. Had mixed results with restoring my data (but took this opportunity to start fresh, apps worked ok). Did you compare some backups or how did you end up with Swift? I can't recall seeing it before...
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Various threads talking about the deficiencies of former stalwart Titanium Backup (an app that's becoming more and more useless as it has failed to keep up with advances in Android such as split APKs) had people recommending Swift Backup highly, so I tried it, liked it, kept it, and paid for it (as I always do with apps I find useful). I've never used Neo Backup, but I might download it and give it a spin.
I probably install Magisk, Droid-ify, AccA, Battery Guru, and Device Info HW as the first five.
Then randomly K-9, Aurora store, app manager, telegram, orbot, DNS66, VLC, Material Files, MicroG...
Fostel said:
Droid-ify, AccA
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Added.
Any specific reason you talk about Lineage OS?
I don't use custom ROMs. But here are my 1st five:
01. Netguard
02. Nova Launcher
03. SAI
04. Shelter
05. File Manager+
Next 5:
06. SSH Server
07. Shortcut Maker
08. Search Widget
09. Notification Shortcuts
10. AppLock
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Any specific reason you talk about Lineage OS
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Well, LOS is the thread's home, isn't it?
Valid point, though - the thing is that LOS comes pretty bare bone and it is always a bit of a hassle to get started. Hence I also don't want listing apps that are only on Google PlayStore because they force you into an account.
I will add those "free" ones, of course. (just gimme a sec)
Here are some of my must-haves I didn't already see mentioned:
NewPipe
Retro Text Editor
Fennec (F-Droid)
Antennapod
Haiaaa! So many replies today
I hope I found your right ones (as for links)...
durbanentertainment said:
some of my must-haves
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Was about to add it but NewPipe and AntennaPod are of the first 5 things you install on a fresh system? (say yes and I add them)
TheMystic said:
Any specific reason you talk about Lineage OS?
I don't use custom ROMs. But here are my 1st five:
01. Netguard
02. Nova Launcher
03. SAI
04. Shelter
05. File Manager+
Next 5:
06. SSH Server
07. Shortcut Maker
08. Search Widget
09. Notification Shortcuts
10. AppLock
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How do you like Shelter? I needed an open-source app that could isolate apps and tried installing Shelter but couldn't get it to work because of Knox.
TheMystic said:
Any specific reason you talk about Lineage OS?
I don't use custom ROMs. But here are my 1st five:
01. Netguard
02. Nova Launcher
03. SAI
04. Shelter
05. File Manager+
Next 5:
06. SSH Server
07. Shortcut Maker
08. Search Widget
09. Notification Shortcuts
10. AppLock
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Also, how does NetGuard compare to AdAway?
ethical_haquer said:
how does NetGuard compare to AdAway
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NetGuard watches and blocks traffic by your choice (per app, port or address), AdAway relies on precompiled lists of ad-servers and trackers and other scum.
ethical_haquer said:
How do like Shelter? I needed an open-source app that could isolate apps and tried installing Shelter but couldn't get it to work because of Knox.
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Shelter enabled the Work Profile just fine on my S22U. No problems with Knox. My device is fully stock. Everything runs fine on the Work Profile.
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Also, how does NetGuard compare to AdAway?
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Netguard doesn't require root. But when you use a real VPN, you'll have to disable Netguard. This isn't required with Adaway AfWall+.
Adaway AfWall+ is definitely better if device is rooted. I particularly like the Multiple Profiles feature which Netguard lacks.
EDIT: I confused Adaway with AFWall+. Sorry.
Netguard blocks apps from connecting to the internet, which is much better than Adaway which only blocks the ad servers. Adaway is not great from privacy perspective, relatively speaking.
TheMystic said:
Shelter enabled the Work Profile just fine on my S22U. No problems with Knox. My device is fully stock. Everything runs fine on the Work Profile.
Netguard doesn't require root. But when you use a real VPN, you'll have to disable Netguard. This isn't required with Adaway AfWall+.
Adaway AfWall+ is definitely better if device is rooted. I particularly like the Multiple Profiles feature which Netguard lacks.
EDIT: I confused Adaway with AFWall+. Sorry.
Netguard blocks apps from connecting to the internet, which is much better than Adaway which only blocks the ad servers. Adaway is not great from privacy perspective, relatively speaking.
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Thanks! I beleive the reason Shelter wouldn't work on my phone was because I had previously installed and rooted a custom ROM, and then went back to stock un-rooted. Once I realized it wouldn't work (even the workarounds didn't) I decided to root it anyways.
I was moving/copying to another phone and oh!, it seems I have to actually add another app: Neo Backup.
It's not only on fdroid alright but there is always also an installer in the backup itself, very smart move for lazy people like me and thus it gets moved up in my list very quickly