Hi guys, moto g4 plus using Snapdragon 617 Processor, this processor support 1080P 60fps record but g4 plus have to feature 1080p 30fps. Will be 1080p 60fps mod ? because as g4 plus same power too phones recording [email protected], for example samsung galaxy S5
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/617
I think the camera sensor is not compatible
But it's just my thinking
mgedik said:
Hi guys, moto g4 plus using Snapdragon 617 Processor, this processor support 1080P 60fps record but g4 plus have to feature 1080p 30fps. Will be 1080p 60fps mod ? because as g4 plus same power too phones recording [email protected], for example samsung galaxy S5
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/617
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There are 3 things you have to look at when deciding what resolution & speed a phone records a video...
1. Camera sensor
2. The ISP
3. The software implementation
1. Camera sensor - Omnivison OV16860
A quick look at the OmniVision site tells me that the G4 Plus sensor "supports high-quality slow motion video capture with full field of view (FOV). The sensor can capture 16-megapixel images and video at 45 fps, ultra-high resolution 4K2K video at 60 fps, and 1080p high definition (HD) video at 120 fps via high speed D-PHY and C-PHY interfaces"
What does this mean? It means that yes, our phone CAN record 1080p60 videos, & actually a lot more....
2. ISP - Snapdragon 617
It is very well known that this is a decent mid-tier SoC and has good capabilities.... But how much exactly...?
Multiple google searches led me to this -
"14.9GB/s b/w GPU Adreno 405 Adreno 405 "Next-gen" Adreno "Next-gen" Adreno Encode/
Decode 1080p H.264
1080p30 HEVC, decode 1080p H.264
1080p60 HEVC, decode 2160p30, 1080p120
H.264 & HEVC 2160p30, 1080p120
H.264 & HEVC Camera/ISP 21MP Dual ISP"
Which means yes, our phone can decode 1080p60 videos (seems to be HEVC only)
3. Software implementation -
Now this is where your answer is... Motorola has to develop (or fork) device drivers & libraries for the particular sensor & ISP. Now, on a mid-range phone for the masses, why would you spend so many development hours on trying to get 1080p60, only for it to eat away its high-range market's share. The G4 Plus is already more than capable to disrupt high range phones (ex - Moto Z Play), and if you add extra features, it'll either be costlier or everybody will buy ONLY this phone.
Long story short, Motorola hasn't included the SW implementation and/or device libs required for 1080p60. If you want it, you have to develop it yourself from Motorola's device libs & kernel.... Parts of which are closed source... Which means you can't.
Only solution is to reverse engineer/ get open source device libs for the sensor, make your changes, integrate it back into the kernel (& the system) & HOPE it works.
Similar discussion was held in the Moto G2 forums, that device was capable of 1080p recording, whereas it only had 720p in SW... Similar conclusion in the end.
Very interesting.
aditya.upadhyaya said:
There are 3 things you have to look at when deciding what resolution & speed a phone records a video...
1. Camera sensor
2. The ISP
3. The software implementation
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Thank you, that was a great summary. Much appreciated.
try oxygen for android "ABS TWEAKS" BEST APP EVER! and you'll get your 60fps, you'll need busybox, and terminal on your phone, and Int. n your phone. theres a thread on xda about it. good luck champs!!!
p.s. i take no credit for ABS TWEAKS.
Dr.who? said:
try oxygen for android "ABS TWEAKS" BEST APP EVER! and you'll get your 60fps, you'll need busybox, and terminal on your phone, and Int. n your phone. theres a thread on xda about it. good luck champs!!!
p.s. i take no credit for ABS TWEAKS.
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Even if that abs tweak work ,It doesn't support nougat.
I think ABS TWEAK is for 60 fps playback and not camera mod. IMHO
aditya.upadhyaya said:
Which means yes, our phone can decode 1080p60 videos (seems to be HEVC only)
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That is DECODING - processing video files to send data to the LCD screen.
You need to look at the ENCODING process - making data files from data from the image sensor. That is a different hardware block on the chip. All I could find is that SD617 supports: "Up to 1080p video capture @60 FPS".
Datasheet doesn't say more, it's even more confusing because it says [email protected]: https://www.qualcomm.com/media/documents/files/snapdragon-617-processor-product-brief.pdf
Also, remember that, if you save on the external SD card, it's speed might not be enough to keep up with writing the video file. Some cheap cards have horrible writing performance.
It requires driver and HALs
Hey all. So far I'm loving this phone!
I saw that OnePlus updated their 6 to enable 480 fps super slow motion video a while back, and since this is also a SD845 phone I'm wondering if Asus can also add this option to the 5Z?
What do you guys think?
Mustajab Is'haq said:
Hey all. So far I'm loving this phone!
I saw that OnePlus updated their 6 to enable 480 fps super slow motion video a while back, and since this is also a SD845 phone I'm wondering if Asus can also add this option to the 5Z?
What do you guys think?
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Hey friend.
The ZenFone 5z's Soc can take up to 960fps
but there's no Dedicated RAM(DRAM) for camera to process that kind of frames.
for example: Sony Xperia XZP's camera has a DRAM with 128MB and high frequency (don't remember the number).
anyway, Try some other camera UI apps that may work.
Vonarian said:
Hey friend.
The ZenFone 5z's Soc can take up to 960fps
but there's no Dedicated RAM(DRAM) for camera to process that kind of frames.
for example: Sony Xperia XZP's camera has a DRAM with 128MB and high frequency (don't remember the number).
anyway, Try some other camera UI apps that may work.
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Yeah I know what it is capable of, was just wondering if it might be possible for Asus to add the 480 fps at 720p option through an update like OnePlus did. Thanks anyway.
Bumping this thread back up.
Read yesterday that Xiaomi is sending an update to the Poco F1 which enables 960 fps slow motion video. As far as I know the Poco was never mentioned with having support for this sort of feature when it was launched. Any thoughts on this?
I'm going to contact Asus and see if they are going to include at least a 480 fps option since 960 fps requires different hardware (like RAM for the sensor).
Hi. Does somone know how to switch on 60 fps mode in video recording (1080). In stock app there is no option but in specification on official website it shows that 1080 30/60 fps is supported. Option to change frame rate is not there. I know that cpu is capable to pull 60 fps in 1080 (4k?) but out of the box it's just not there. What's going on?
Madhuvrata said:
Hi. Does somone know how to switch on 60 fps mode in video recording (1080). In stock app there is no option but in specification on official website it shows that 1080 30/60 fps is supported. Option to change frame rate is not there. I know that cpu is capable to pull 60 fps in 1080 (4k?) but out of the box it's just not there. What's going on?
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Install Google Camera, which allows you to select 1080 60fps in video mode.
like this:
Yes that's fine. But Xiaomi claims out of the box 60p fps support in their website. Anyway, probably I'm not going ( if I'm going to buy this device) to use stock camera that often.
Madhuvrata said:
Yes that's fine. But Xiaomi claims out of the box 60p fps support in their website. Anyway, probably I'm not going ( if I'm going to buy this device) to use stock camera that often.
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Not really sure about why 60fps isnt avaliable in stock app, only benefit of using stock cam is being able to switch between cameras, where GCam needs root to do the same task.
It also does not record 60fps on filmic pro or zy play for my gimbal.
Great news - MIUI 11 brings 1080p @ 60fps support to the stock camera app. (tested and fully working)
You can get it here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-8/how-to/rom-miui-11-redmi-note-8-global-ginkgo-t4009645
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Hello guys. So I would like to know if there is a way I could set custom refresh rate for apps:
Example:
Videos: 60/90Hz
Reading: 60Hz
Anything else: 120Hz
I have already noticed that the refresh rate is kinda adaptive on specific apps (Netflix, YouTube e.t.c) but I wanted to know if there is a way I could add more to the list.
Hi guys,
Surely a noob question but do we have a custom ROM like arrow or lineage that supports the 120hz display refresh rate?
Thx
Air1ne said:
Hi guys,
Surely a noob question but do we have a custom ROM like arrow or lineage that supports the 120hz display refresh rate?
Thx
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You may use the original rom with adjusted 120 Hz, without any troubles, only battery will be decharging fastly %20 more, you can see the attached photo that my Eu rom ported China based original rom adjusted 120 Hz..