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I am in the process downgrading my Tmobile G2.
I got the # , ok
I got the version changed, ok
I got the temp root (maybe).
But once I got the temp root and trying to backup.
The apps says I don't have root access.
It means after I pushed busybox ,etc ,ect. I click the backup apps, the backup apps say good to go. But even I reload the apps the 2nd time. It will show I don't have root access.
But I still have the # sign.
I checked the forum as someone else had the same problem, but I did not find the answer.
Does anyone have some suggestion?
Thanks
be sure to disable the fastboot option. turn your phone off, pull the battery and leave it like this for a minute... then start again
hoffmas said:
be sure to disable the fastboot option. turn your phone off, pull the battery and leave it like this for a minute... then start again
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I got the same trouble with my Desire Z. You can see my question near the the week ago. And advice was the same, but it didn't help. I think temporary root was honest but may be backup application managed to destroy some reserved memory for root, i don't know. I couldn't to backup system either MyBackup Pro or Titanium.
So I can't rooting my phone.
I will very glad if anybody help me and you.
sure you can root your phone. if the backup doesn´t work just skip it.
"If you have nothing to back up or don't care to back anything up, proceed to the next section." (...from the guide)
I agree
hoffmas said:
sure you can root your phone. if the backup doesn´t work just skip it.
"If you have nothing to back up or don't care to back anything up, proceed to the next section." (...from the guide)
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After rooting when I tried to backup the stock rom even I got some errors.
"Can't mount..some something"
Googled for it a lot and most of them indirectly said the phone might be bricked. Since I had nothing else to do I continued with the next step i.e. installing custom rom (cynogemod in my case) and everything turned out fine.
I am not recommending that you skip the backup process, if you can find anything then surely take a backup else skip it and continue.
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if the backup doesn´t work just skip it.
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I afraid that skipping backup procedure before rooting is not a better advice.
I've bought my device over a year ago and now it has a lot of useful app and files. I usually use MyBackupPro to store non-system data without rooting.
However, it seems to me that's not enough, or am I wrong?
I think that after the rooting and replacement of the firmware I get a new, empty device without my usual things.
Is it enough or not after rooting to restore only the non-system data to continue to use the device as before plus root ?
Thanks.
yes =) just backup your apps and restore afterwards... you wont loose any sdcard content while rooting (except for goldcard). sure you can´t backup system apps, but this doesn´t make sense anyway because they wont work with your new rom
backup while rooting could be important for warranty issues... but actually isn´t really cause you can use a wwe ruu.
Does anyone know of any way to restore a backup of a non-rooted HTC One X?
I had to send my cursed HOX off for it's third repair, so once again I'm back to an annoyingly factory clean phone. Before sending the phone off I backed up all external storage and used ADB to make a full backup.ab, also my phone is set to sync with Google.
On receiving my phone back, I get no option from Google Play to restore my previously installed apps and the backup.ab seems to be entirely useless, possibly due to a sense bug I've heard mentioned. It seems that I could potentially restore from the backup.ab using Titanium if I rooted but I really don't want to risk my warranty on a phone I've already had to send back three times.
Any help would be much appreciated...
Why is it useless? What's wrong with:
adb restore backups.ab
I try to restore with 'adb restore backup.ab' my phone asks me to confirm, it says backup restoring then about 2 hours later I get prompted to send a crash report to HTC. Nothing has changed and I get nothing in the way of even slightly useful output on either the PC or Android side to figure out what's going wrong.
Hi all,
I recently got a HK N7105 and because it lacked the possibility to use a french keyboard I upgraded to a stock unbranded ROM from Sweden (XXDLL1) and succesfully rooted with the relevant CF_autoroot through Odin. Also installed TWRP 2.3.3.1.
Then, I connected the Note 2 to my corporate exchange server which enforced a full encryption policy (device and external SD card) so I had to type in a password at each boot time (with a "nice" swedish prompt that took ma while to decypher), plus a password to unlock the screen. All was well as the root survived the process.
Next I upgraded to a later stock ROM from France (XXDLL4 from SFR) to try and get rid of the swedish prompt. That worked fine (and root was loast in the process, as expected) but I hated the branded stuff so much I reverted to XXDLL1 until a proper unbranded "english" or "french" ROM is available.
At this point I decided to root again. I was running XXDLL1 like the first time and used the same autoroot tar from Chainfire. Except my Note 2 was still encrypted and after that it would not accept my boot password (a four digit PIN) anymore so I was guted and had to factory reset and root then reinstall everything before reconnecting to the exchange server.
Question 1: Does anyone know of a safe, proven way to root a fully encrypted Samsung device so I can go another upgrade without having to wipe the device first?
Why reinstall everything? Why not backup everything first so you can restore after the wipe? Well, it so happens that no recovery (at least neither CWM or TWRP) can read any encrypted media on the Note 2 at the moment. And no Recovery can actually fully backup the device as well.
Question 2: Does anyone know of a proper way to handle this situation with minimum hassle?
So far, the best I can think of is doing a Titanium backup and FTP the files to my NAS so I can retrieve them later. But (Question 3) will this be enough to restore my phone to the expected state after a stock firmware upgrade?
Thanks in advance,
François
frankieGom said:
Hi all,
I recently got a HK N7105 and because it lacked the possibility to use a french keyboard I upgraded to a stock unbranded ROM from Sweden (XXDLL1) and succesfully rooted with the relevant CF_autoroot through Odin. Also installed TWRP 2.3.3.1.
Then, I connected the Note 2 to my corporate exchange server which enforced a full encryption policy (device and external SD card) so I had to type in a password at each boot time (with a "nice" swedish prompt that took ma while to decypher), plus a password to unlock the screen. All was well as the root survived the process.
Next I upgraded to a later stock ROM from France (XXDLL4 from SFR) to try and get rid of the swedish prompt. That worked fine (and root was loast in the process, as expected) but I hated the branded stuff so much I reverted to XXDLL1 until a proper unbranded "english" or "french" ROM is available.
At this point I decided to root again. I was running XXDLL1 like the first time and used the same autoroot tar from Chainfire. Except my Note 2 was still encrypted and after that it would not accept my boot password (a four digit PIN) anymore so I was guted and had to factory reset and root then reinstall everything before reconnecting to the exchange server.
Question 1: Does anyone know of a safe, proven way to root a fully encrypted Samsung device so I can go another upgrade without having to wipe the device first?
Why reinstall everything? Why not backup everything first so you can restore after the wipe? Well, it so happens that no recovery (at least neither CWM or TWRP) can read any encrypted media on the Note 2 at the moment. And no Recovery can actually fully backup the device as well.
Question 2: Does anyone know of a proper way to handle this situation with minimum hassle?
So far, the best I can think of is doing a Titanium backup and FTP the files to my NAS so I can retrieve them later. But (Question 3) will this be enough to restore my phone to the expected state after a stock firmware upgrade?
Thanks in advance,
François
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I think using Exynos Abuse apk will do the work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2050297
Thanks for the heads up, I'll look into it. But to be clear, that answers question 1, correct?
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Thanks for the heads up, I'll look into it. But to be clear, that answers question 1, correct?
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Yes that's a way to root the device.
Regarding encryption, very few people on xda seem to use it. So for that reason you'll have trouble finding out what works... I do use it though through choice so I can help you a bit.
When you encrypt the device, just consider /data to be off limits to anything not booted fully. That's why it asks you for your key in swedish - it can't see what language is in use until you unlock /data.
You will have issues using recovery with the device, since they can't read /data. You can use an external sd to perhaps load data to the device though.
I believe that TWRP might soon support the Samsung encryption on the device, meaning you could use it as recovery. Once you have a recovery that supports Samsung encryption, you should be able to consider it a fairly normal device.
Just be more cautious to backup your data as it is hard to recover if something goes wrong...
If your using stock rom 4.1.2, exynos abuse method of root will not work. It's been patched
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pulser_g2 said:
Yes that's a way to root the device.
Regarding encryption, very few people on xda seem to use it. So for that reason you'll have trouble finding out what works... I do use it though through choice so I can help you a bit.
When you encrypt the device, just consider /data to be off limits to anything not booted fully. That's why it asks you for your key in swedish - it can't see what language is in use until you unlock /data.
You will have issues using recovery with the device, since they can't read /data. You can use an external sd to perhaps load data to the device though.
I believe that TWRP might soon support the Samsung encryption on the device, meaning you could use it as recovery. Once you have a recovery that supports Samsung encryption, you should be able to consider it a fairly normal device.
Just be more cautious to backup your data as it is hard to recover if something goes wrong...
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Fine, I understand. As long as I have a way to recover my data if I need to wipe I'm okay... I just have to hope Titanium backup gives me that until TWRP can manage encruption on the Note 2.
I'm really waiting for a stock rom that boots in English or French now.
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vash_h said:
If your using stock rom 4.1.2, exynos abuse method of root will not work. It's been patched
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Not the case with xxdll1. When was it patched, xxdll4 or xxdll7?
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Not the case with xxdll1. When was it patched, xxdll4 or xxdll7?
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I am on Stock 4.1.2 and Exynos Abuse did work on my device, it's successfully rooted using the Exynos AbuseAPK on 4.1.2 :good:
OK, now I have been experimenting a bit with backups and upgrade and have trouble restoring my device fully. Let me explain...
I got hold of a TWRP build that seems to handle Samsung encryption fine through one of the TWRP devs (thanks!), so I decided to go back and try to update my device.
Current ROM: N7105XXDLL1_N7105TLADLL1_N7105XXDLK7_HOME.tar (obtained from Samsung Updates)
New ROM: N7105XXDLL7_N7105OLBDLL2_N7105DXDLL1_HOME.tar (obtained from Samsung Updates)
First I performed a complete Titanium Backup on the device and pulled the files to my laptop using ADB.
Then I restarted into TWRP 2.4.0.0 (got a prompt for my password), performed a full backup and pulled the files to the laptop using ADB.
(for some reason, I could not install the new ROM from TWRP (unable to open ZIP), but the ZIP looked OK, as well as after a second download which TWRP since did not like, so I had to use Odin instead).
Next, I flashed DLL7 with Odin. It worked, asked for the password at boot, but the device was unrooted at this point (I expected that).
Then, I flashed CF-Auto-Root-t0lte-t0ltexx-gtn7105.tar from Odin, but the boot up password would not be accepted anymore as I already knew.
Tried to flash DLL7 again from Odin, same thing
Flashed TWRP back on recovery partition, but on startup it would not ask for password anymore and the external sdcard looked empty to it.
I then copied my backup to a different, non encrypted sdcard and could restore from TWRP but the password would still not work after reboot.
I did a factory reset, restored backup, same result.
At this point I decided to factory reset, wipe Dalvik and format /data. The format did the trick and after TWRP restore of my original back up the device booted up, did not ask for password and all my data was there. Except the Exchange account I use for Corporate email wants me to restore encryption in order to work (I expected that too).
Back at DLL1, so I flashed DLL7 again with Odin (OK), rooted the phone, triangled away the flash counter and reflashed TWRP to recovery.
I was where I wanted to be except for one thing: I need to restore Corporate access. But when I let it encryp the phone it does nothing. I let it through the night and nothing). And if I reboot the phone no password is needed at boot time, yet the phone seems to behave as if it thought the device was still encrypted...
I reflashed my original, full, backup (i.e DLL1) succesfully but Exchange still wants to encrypt my device. Isn't restore supposed to restore the encrypted /data I backed up?
At this point I'm left with possibly tryinjg to go back to full factory settings, not use the backup at all, encrypt the device then restore my data from the Titanium backup I made.
Is there a better option?
[edited jan 18 - TWRP/TB behaviour]
My comments apply to encrypted devices only! I am not trying to talk down TWRP or TB here, as they provide splendid performance on non encrypted devices. I have come upon hard time trying to upgrade/restore an encrypted device using thoise tools, that's all
For those considering upgrading & re-rooting encrypted devices, don't!
I am finding the hard way that this is a one way street. At this point, my TWRP made full backup does not restore the device to the expected status. Each time I apply it, subsequent bootup takes several minutes and I end up going through the initial setup procedure. It seems the device for some reasoin goes through a complete reset procedure.
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Clarification: The TWRP build I use, 2.4.0.0 is an alpha build and I was not current when I restored my backup. I so happens that it was overwriting the encryption header on the partition, which messed things up bad, and had issues writing back the data partition, ending up in a factory reset status!
Using the latest drop as of today (jan 27) I was able to restore my original backup and am now back to my original state. All is well.
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Titanium Backup is none better. It keeps telling me that my Android ID has changed, a host of system applications start to fail when I try to restore and generally speaking I have now spent between a good 20 hours trying to simply restore my data.
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this behaviour is probably linked to encryption. I know for a fact that TB works very well on non encrypted phones. The 20h figure is overall, not just with TB.
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The end story is: root before you encrypt, and either don't upgrade or don't re-root if you do! If you do, be prepared for some rough times...
Unless someone has a cleat idea of how to do this properly without losing all your data, that is.
François
frankieGom said:
For those considering upgrading & re-rooting encrypted devices, don't!
I am finding the hard way that this is a one way street. At this point, my TWRP made full backup does not restore the device to the expected status. Each time I apply it, subsequent bootup takes several minutes and I end up going through the initial setup procedure. It seems the device for some reasoin goes through a complete reset procedure.
Titanium Backup is none better. It keeps telling me that my Android ID has changed, a host of system applications start to fail when I try to restore and generally speaking I have now spent between a good 20 hours trying to simply restore my data.
The end story is: root before you encrypt, and either don't upgrade or don't re-root if you do!
Unless someone has a cleat idea of how to do this properly without losing all your data, that is.
François
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I have had no issues despite doing upgrades, with and without wipes.
Titanium is fine, just stop restoring system app data. Seriously, what data do you have in a system app that you want to restore.
Restore your user apps, their data, and the xml based call, sms, Wifi backups. It will work fine.
Device ID isn't a problem - it's just trying to help you.
pulser_g2 said:
I have had no issues despite doing upgrades, with and without wipes.
Titanium is fine, just stop restoring system app data. Seriously, what data do you have in a system app that you want to restore.
Restore your user apps, their data, and the xml based call, sms, Wifi backups. It will work fine.
Device ID isn't a problem - it's just trying to help you.
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Sorry if I came across dissing Titanium Backup and/or TWRP. This was not the intent... I am sure both tools work real nice in general cases (and I have had success restoring data on a Jetstream before).
My main issue here is _full device encryption_ enforced by my company's corporate IT to allow me on the corporate exchange server. Do you have full device encryption on?
On my device, even after a full wipe and flashing a fresh stock rom Titanium Backup just did not work as I hoped. When I had to confirm individual popups of apps closing unexpectedly while it was proceeding and got nothing back in the end, what was I supposed to think? It could be that I don't understand how TB works... I was neither able to restore missing apps after the flash (missing apps: 0) nor installed apps data (they would close unexpectedly when started after restoring the back up). So I say: until full operation of TB on encrypted devices is documented, I will stay away from it, even though I am a registered user (and I do not plan to seek reimbursment)!
Anyway, I got to a belated happy ending (previous post edited).
frankieGom said:
Sorry if I came across dissing Titanium Backup and/or TWRP. This was not the intent... I am sure both tools work real nice in general cases (and I have had success restoring data on a Jetstream before).
My main issue here is _full device encryption_ enforced by my company's corporate IT to allow me on the corporate exchange server. Do you have full device encryption on?
On my device, even after a full wipe and flashing a fresh stock rom Titanium Backup just did not work as I hoped. When I had to confirm individual popups of apps closing unexpectedly while it was proceeding and got nothing back in the end, what was I supposed to think? It could be that I don't understand how TB works... I was neither able to restore missing apps after the flash (missing apps: 0) nor installed apps data (they would close unexpectedly when started after restoring the back up). So I say: until full operation of TB on encrypted devices is documented, I will stay away from it, even though I am a registered user (and I do not plan to seek reimbursment)!
Anyway, I got to a belated happy ending (previous post edited).
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Yup I use device encryption Enabled manually, but it's the same encryption.
You should find that titanium shouldn't even be aware of it - the encryption is transparent!
I wonder... I'm sure lenny had that issue on a recent 4.1.2 "stock" ROM... And he doesn't use encryption...
I personally have had no issues with titanium on an encrypted device anyway
I notice you were using the newest rom - that's the one lenny had issues on.
pulser_g2 said:
Yup I use device encryption Enabled manually, but it's the same encryption.
You should find that titanium shouldn't even be aware of it - the encryption is transparent!
I wonder... I'm sure lenny had that issue on a recent 4.1.2 "stock" ROM... And he doesn't use encryption...
I personally have had no issues with titanium on an encrypted device anyway
I notice you were using the newest rom - that's the one lenny had issues on.
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Exactly like I thought, encryption should be transparent to Titanium Backup since it runs within the OS.
I have had problems restoring into 4.1.2 DLL1 (the build I came from) and DLL7 (the one I was trying to go to)
The point is moot anyway since the DLL7 I tried was actually branded (Singtel stuff all around the launcher) and did not include French, which is why restoring my TWRP backup was a tempting proposition.
Good to know TB runs fine with encryption as well. What ROM are you running?
François
frankieGom said:
Hi all,
I recently got a HK N7105 and because it lacked the possibility to use a french keyboard I upgraded to a stock unbranded ROM from Sweden (XXDLL1) and succesfully rooted with the relevant CF_autoroot through Odin. Also installed TWRP 2.3.3.1.
Then, I connected the Note 2 to my corporate exchange server which enforced a full encryption policy (device and external SD card) so I had to type in a password at each boot time (with a "nice" swedish prompt that took ma while to decypher), plus a password to unlock the screen. All was well as the root survived the process.
Next I upgraded to a later stock ROM from France (XXDLL4 from SFR) to try and get rid of the swedish prompt. That worked fine (and root was loast in the process, as expected) but I hated the branded stuff so much I reverted to XXDLL1 until a proper unbranded "english" or "french" ROM is available.
At this point I decided to root again. I was running XXDLL1 like the first time and used the same autoroot tar from Chainfire. Except my Note 2 was still encrypted and after that it would not accept my boot password (a four digit PIN) anymore so I was guted and had to factory reset and root then reinstall everything before reconnecting to the exchange server.
Question 1: Does anyone know of a safe, proven way to root a fully encrypted Samsung device so I can go another upgrade without having to wipe the device first?
Why reinstall everything? Why not backup everything first so you can restore after the wipe? Well, it so happens that no recovery (at least neither CWM or TWRP) can read any encrypted media on the Note 2 at the moment. And no Recovery can actually fully backup the device as well.
Question 2: Does anyone know of a proper way to handle this situation with minimum hassle?
So far, the best I can think of is doing a Titanium backup and FTP the files to my NAS so I can retrieve them later. But (Question 3) will this be enough to restore my phone to the expected state after a stock firmware upgrade?
Thanks in advance,
François
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About a backup : have you tried Online Nandroid (Playstore) (or similar, based on Onandroid) ? This makes a CWM or TWRP compatible backup while the device is running (everything should be unencrypted at this moment).
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620255
About rooting : you can try the same trick as above, by using ADB-shell and pushing the needed files to root to the device while it is running.
For my S3 there is a Toolkit that automates all this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1703488), maybe there is something similar for your device ?
If not, you should still be able to do it using manual ADB-pushing.
I'm sorry I can't give you detailed instructions about the rooting as I'm not familiar with your device. Search here on XDA and you'll find more details.
pat357 said:
About a backup : have you tried Online Nandroid (Playstore) (or similar, based on Onandroid) ? This makes a CWM or TWRP compatible backup while the device is running (everything should be unencrypted at this moment).
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620255
About rooting : you can try the same trick as above, by using ADB-shell and pushing the needed files to root to the device while it is running.
For my S3 there is a Toolkit that automates all this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1703488), maybe there is something similar for your device ?
If not, you should still be able to do it using manual ADB-pushing.
I'm sorry I can't give you detailed instructions about the rooting as I'm not familiar with your device. Search here on XDA and you'll find more details.
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Thanks for the suggestions, and no I had not tried Online Nandroid as I was not aware of it. Anyway, my main issue is now resolved since TWRP has include support for Samsung TouchWiz based encryption in 2.4 and that works well.
For those interested, the only remaining issues I have with TWRP regarding encryption are that if you want to format /data from TWRP (say, to remove encryption) it will fail unless you _do not_ enter the password at boot, and the TWRP formated /data cannot be re-encrypted (you must use stock recovery to factory reset/wipe the device or else the encryption step will sit deat in the water doing nothing). I suppose the second one is a bug that will be fixed in a later version.
I will check Online Nandroid out anyway, being able to make a backup from a live system sounds good!
François
frankieGom said:
Thanks for the suggestions, and no I had not tried Online Nandroid as I was not aware of it. Anyway, my main issue is now resolved since TWRP has include support for Samsung TouchWiz based encryption in 2.4 and that works well.
For those interested, the only remaining issues I have with TWRP regarding encryption are that if you want to format /data from TWRP (say, to remove encryption) it will fail unless you _do not_ enter the password at boot, and the TWRP formated /data cannot be re-encrypted (you must use stock recovery to factory reset/wipe the device or else the encryption step will sit deat in the water doing nothing). I suppose the second one is a bug that will be fixed in a later version.
I will check Online Nandroid out anyway, being able to make a backup from a live system sounds good!
François
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I have a similar issue. I had the device encrypted and decided to ROOT (using CF-AutoRoot). Unfortunately I cannot bypass the password screen now, although I know that I'm entering the right password. You are saying that if I flash TWRP everything will be fine?
ludovicianul said:
I have a similar issue. I had the device encrypted and decided to ROOT (using CF-AutoRoot). Unfortunately I cannot bypass the password screen now, although I know that I'm entering the right password. You are saying that if I flash TWRP everything will be fine?
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Two separate things:
Root messing up encrypted touchwiz devices and twrp not handling touchwiz encrypted partitions properly.
The 2nd one, as much as I can tell, is fixed since before 2.5 so if youwork with the latest (2.6) you should be fine.
The first one I haven't played with in a while, but my finding is that you don't want to root a device once it's been encrypted. I've tried several different methods including rooting as you flag as is possible with twrp and all end up the same:the password is not recognised anymore!
The only thing that works for me is rooting before encrypting or only flashing pre-rooted ROMs.
frankieGom said:
Two separate things:
Root messing up encrypted touchwiz devices and twrp not handling touchwiz encrypted partitions properly.
The 2nd one, as much as I can tell, is fixed since before 2.5 so if youwork with the latest (2.6) you should be fine.
The first one I haven't played with in a while, but my finding is that you don't want to root a device once it's been encrypted. I've tried several different methods including rooting as you flag as is possible with twrp and all end up the same:the password is not recognised anymore!
The only thing that works for me is rooting before encrypting or only flashing pre-rooted ROMs.
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Yes - I had to factory reset the phone and format the SD Card. Never root AFTER encryption :silly:
Can I restore a nandroid backup made on a different device to a new device? I am getting a new RMA unit soon and I want to restore a nandroid backup made on my old device to the new one. I don't know if it is possible though.
EDIT: I have tried it and it doesn't work. All the data and apps are restored and the device mostly works but Pixel imprint will refuse to add any fingerprints at all.
Look into how this was done on the Nexus 6P - the finger prints and lockscreen stuff would be screwed up, but could be fixed with modifications to certain files. Having said that, I'm not sure if this would trip SafetyNet with the Pixel 2 XL (I was using system root with SuperSU back on the N6P, so I didn't care about SafetyNet.)
Also, I'm not even sure the same fixes would work, but it's worth exploring if need be.
Don't think it's a good idea and could cause problems...
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Can I restore a nandroid backup made on a different device to a new device? I am getting a new RMA unit soon and I want to restore a nandroid backup made on my old device to the new one. I don't know if it is possible though.
EDIT: I have tried it and it doesn't work. All the data and apps are restored and the device mostly works but Pixel imprint will refuse to add any fingerprints at all.
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You can do restores all day long with HTC 7,8,9,10,11's and Nexus 6 among others. But I have failed so many times on OG Pixel and P2-XL.
Haven't given up, but it doesn't look good.
Wouldn't it be cool to just download the monthly updates and then flash it without a computer and follow that by flashing root instantly? I miss the good ol' TWRP day. We should all pitch in for a TWRP bounty. What do you folks think about that?
mkhcb said:
Wouldn't it be cool to just download the monthly updates and then flash it without a computer and follow that by flashing root instantly? I miss the good ol' TWRP day. We should all pitch in for a TWRP bounty. What do you folks think about that?
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Honestly I don't even remember the days of using twrp anymore as it's been so rare on devices the past couple years. I have to admit I do miss the interface/functionality without relying on a computer. I'd be willing to throw in a few bucks.
scott.hart.bti said:
Honestly I don't even remember the days of using twrp anymore as it's been so rare on devices the past couple years. I have to admit I do miss the interface/functionality without relying on a computer. I'd be willing to throw in a few bucks.
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I came from the OnePlus realm and owned the OPO + OP5T. My parents had the OPO and currently have the 7 Pro. I have been beyond spoiled with TWRP.
Needing a computer to flash and update + keep flash is a pain in the butt... Plus the uninstall Magisk, update, then flash method has never worked for me and 2x I lost all my data + pictures.
mkhcb said:
I came from the OnePlus realm and owned the OPO + OP5T. My parents had the OPO and currently have the 7 Pro. I have been beyond spoiled with TWRP.
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Haha I hear ya. I know there were a few devs over in the OnePlus forums that were fantastic with bringing twrp functionality to those devices. I'm wondering if anyone on the OnePlus 10 is working on it yet. Can't be that much different once someone gets it working and posts the source code (obviously the device source would be different), but beyond that should be similar. I've really been getting the itch to start playing around with things again lately. Need to find a decent rig to setup with Ubuntu before that can happen.
scott.hart.bti said:
Haha I hear ya. I know there were a few devs over in the OnePlus forums that were fantastic with bringing twrp functionality to those devices. I'm wondering if anyone on the OnePlus 10 is working on it yet. Can't be that much different once someone gets it working and posts the source code (obviously the device source would be different), but beyond that should be similar. I've really been getting the itch to start playing around with things again lately. Need to find a decent rig to setup with Ubuntu before that can happen.
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Well if you want to lose the inactive dev title, I 100% will support that . I know many people would appreciate it!
i'd certainly spend my money for a twrp!
I hate adb and hate having to connect my pixel (or any other phone) to a pc for install whatever i want
TWRP was a thing when phones had SD card slots. It still would be nice, however, just not as handy as it were then. ;-)
scott.hart.bti said:
Haha I hear ya. I know there were a few devs over in the OnePlus forums that were fantastic with bringing twrp functionality to those devices. I'm wondering if anyone on the OnePlus 10 is working on it yet. Can't be that much different once someone gets it working and posts the source code (obviously the device source would be different), but beyond that should be similar. I've really been getting the itch to start playing around with things again lately. Need to find a decent rig to setup with Ubuntu before that can happen.
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I'm coming straight from S5 and can say even with Source Code available it's really hard to see functional updates.
Aroma Installer support was lost for about 5 years. Then an interested developer finally came up and fixed it but didn't want to maintain it, but still it became official ipdate for device tree not unofficial. However the next two updates after it (as far as I know there haven't been more) by an official maintainer skipped all the fixes he did (Aroma Installer support is just the most important). So TWRP for S5 is back to be bugged like for last 5 years and I don't expect it to get fixed ever again.
So no: even if source is available, you can't expect to have good TWRP support.
I'm quite shocked about the S20 development: It's a flagship phone only 2 years old but Stock based development is down to one ROM and one kernel actively maintained, Vanilla Android (based) ROM is not there only LOS based (okay this is Vanilla based in the end, but itself modified and all the ROMs start from this one) and as this one is still not bug free, all depending ROMs are not bug free.
Back in the active days of S5 you had 3-5 Stock ROMs active, AOSP, AOKP and than Cyanogen (based) ROMs available, quite a lot. And Samsung was always hated for their undocumented changes that gave developers quite the headache and reverse engineering was needed a lot. I think GSI should make development easier compared to S5 or has Custom Android development gone down at all?
scott.hart.bti said:
Honestly I don't even remember the days of using twrp anymore as it's been so rare on devices the past couple years. I have to admit I do miss the interface/functionality without relying on a computer. I'd be willing to throw in a few bucks.
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Huh? My Samsungs and Oneplus had TWRP, it's not rare just not on Pixel
Question: Has any Android 12 device had TWRP made for it yet? Last I had heard, several months back, anyway - none had. Anyone wanting to tackle TWRP for any specific Android 12 device would first have to tackle getting it to work on any Android 12 device in general.
But maybe by now, someone has made it for Android 12 in general and I just haven't heard about it, who knows. I used it some on my Pixel 1, but I really haven't missed it.
Edit: There are several TWRP-related threads in this section, and here's some news I shared a month after I got my Pixel 6 Pro:
[General] TWRP 3.6.0 major parts rewritten from scratch to support Google's Android 11 changes, so they are hopeful for a much quicker Android 12 release
So it took them quite a while to get Android 11 support in general.
cpufrost said:
TWRP was a thing when phones had SD card slots. It still would be nice, however, just not as handy as it were then. ;-)
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Use a USB C to USB A dongle. Works like a charm and also works in TWRP.
TWRP is still being worked on from what I just checked, but they have no ETA when it'll be finished. There's a status page on Zulip with more info, but I'm not signing up for it.
TWRP 3.6.1 Released
TWRP 3.6.1 is out now for most currently supported devices.
twrp.me
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Use a USB C to USB A dongle. Works like a charm and also works in TWRP.
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True, I forgot about those. I even have a 128GB tiny Sandisk USB drive that is USB C native that does work so there's that.
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Question: Has any Android 12 device had TWRP made for it yet? Last I had heard, several months back, anyway - none had. Anyone wanting to tackle TWRP for any specific Android 12 device would first have to tackle getting it to work on any Android 12 device in general.
But maybe by now, someone has made it for Android 12 in general and I just haven't heard about it, who knows. I used it some on my Pixel 1, but I really haven't missed it.
Edit: There are several TWRP-related threads in this section, and here's some news I shared a month after I got my Pixel 6 Pro:
[General] TWRP 3.6.0 major parts rewritten from scratch to support Google's Android 11 changes, so they are hopeful for a much quicker Android 12 release
So it took them quite a while to get Android 11 support in general.
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yes
namely the fold 3 - however with samsung devices, encryption needs to be disabled for TWRP to work and be able to access the data partition and thus make and store nand backups of userdata etc.
Firstly it transpred that disabling encryption broke a whole range of samsung and google things such as samsung Dex mode and even downloading attachments from gmail.
Then it transpired that data backups were not being sucecssful (although system partition backups were still possible)
In the end it wasn't worth it and the Dev moved over to pixel 6 pro lol
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Question: Has any Android 12 device had TWRP made for it yet? Last I had heard, several months back, anyway - none had. Anyone wanting to tackle TWRP for any specific Android 12 device would first have to tackle getting it to work on any Android 12 device in general.
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It was only officially ported to Android 11 in November 2021, so I doubt there's any official A12 builds yet.
I think reliance on TWRP has dwindled over the past few years due to slow releases, dev's releasing ROM's that are flashable with fastboot, kernels being flashable while online, and most root mods moving towards systemless Magisk modules.
I mainly used TWRP to do an image backup of my phone before doing anything "dangerous". I really hate having to before each monthly update in the hopes something doesn't go wrong that will cause me to have to wipe my phone. With TWRP, I could do an image backup, screw something up, and be back up and running right where I was in a matter of minutes.
Am I missing something here? Is there another way to do a full image backup and restore it quickly? I have Titanium Backup but using that to backup each individual app and it's data, transfer that backup off the phone, then if I have to wipe the phone, I have to copy everything back, then do a restore of each app, will take literally hours!
What's the quickest way to do an image backup if not TWRP?
Thanks,
Dave
Dataman100 said:
Am I missing something here? Is there another way to do a full image backup and restore it quickly?
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There has "always" (very, very long time) been a way to do image backups manually using ADB, however, it's unreliable - the only reason TWRP or other recoveries were slightly more reliable was that they could "verify" the backup and ensure that what it sees in the partition is indeed what is backed up.
With the ADB commands, you might not find out your backup isn't good until you restore it, and that's no help.
I still found TWRP backups to be hit and miss, at least six years ago when I was still using it.
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I have Titanium Backup but using that to backup each individual app and it's data, transfer that backup off the phone, then if I have to wipe the phone, I have to copy everything back, then do a restore of each app, will take literally hours!
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I switched to Swift Backup and I don't even backup locally as most of my 512 GB of space is filled with music. I have it backup to my Google Drive directly. It's slower to restore stuff from the cloud, but at least they aren't taking up precious space, and I know wiping the phone won't cause me to lose my backups.
FYI, you can set up cloud backups in Titanium Backup as well, or tell it to do that manually. In TB's case, the cloud backups don't replace the local backups, but I have used them before just in case I have to wipe. I've been away from Titanium Backup long enough that I don't recall if TB restores could be done from the cloud, however (unlike Swift Backup, which can restore directly from the cloud). TB's method is probably closer to your manual copy the files back method, so only slightly an improvement as you can schedule the TB cloud backups to happen automatically.
roirraW edor ehT said:
There has "always" (very, very long time) been a way to do image backups manually using ADB, however, it's unreliable - the only reason TWRP or other recoveries were slightly more reliable was that they could "verify" the backup and ensure that what it sees in the partition is indeed what is backed up.
With the ADB commands, you might not find out your backup isn't good until you restore it, and that's no help.
I still found TWRP backups to be hit and miss, at least six years ago when I was still using it.
I switched to Swift Backup and I don't even backup locally as most of my 512 GB of space is filled with music. I have it backup to my Google Drive directly. It's slower to restore stuff from the cloud, but at least they aren't taking up precious space, and I know wiping the phone won't cause me to lose my backups.
FYI, you can set up cloud backups in Titanium Backup as well, or tell it to do that manually. In TB's case, the cloud backups don't replace the local backups, but I have used them before just in case I have to wipe. I've been away from Titanium Backup long enough that I don't recall if TB restores could be done from the cloud, however (unlike Swift Backup, which can restore directly from the cloud). TB's method is probably closer to your manual copy the files back method, so only slightly an improvement as you can schedule the TB cloud backups to happen automatically.
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Thanks! Yeah, I was aware of all those options. It's still a very manually intensive and time consuming process with either Swift or TB to the cloud.
I came to the P6P from an LG V30s which had TWRP. Right before any major update, (OS, Magisk, etc). I'd do a quick full image backup to the SD card. It took about 20 mins max. Then I'd perform whatever update task, and if it boot looped, or soft bricked, I'd immediately reboot into TWRP and restore. I remember having to do that at least twice on the LG. Each time the backup restored properly and I was up and running again in 20 mins or less. There's no current backup/restore process for the Pixel that even comes close. Titanium even lets you restore individual apps/data from a TWRP backup image. You don't have to restore the entire thing. Which I'd done several times on the LG.
It's a shame. One of the reasons I chose the P6P was because I thought with it's popularity, it wouldn't take long for TWRP to be available. It may not be as valuable or necessary as it was in the past for it's flashing functions, but it certainly would be very useful, (to me anyway) for it's image backup function.
I'd definitely chip in for a TWRP bounty. For the backup alone.
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Thanks! Yeah, I was aware of all those options. It's still a very manually intensive and time consuming process with either Swift or TB to the cloud.
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I have Swift backup to the cloud automatically every night at ~2 AM whenever the battery is at 50% or more. I never have to do anything for that manually. That way, if I'm going to do something dangerous, there's that much less I have to worry about.
I think I used to have Titanium Backup sync to the cloud nightly on a schedule also, besides having it do a scheduled new backup beforehand.
I only actually ever restore select app data - I always start with the Google Cloud restore, and then probably just a few apps that don't use Google Cloud backup, so I manually restore the data for those apps as I come across them in normal use. I never do like I used to do in Titanium Backup and do a restore all.
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I came to the P6P from an LG V30s which had TWRP. Right before any major update, (OS, Magisk, etc). I'd do a quick full image backup to the SD card. It took about 20 mins max. Then I'd perform whatever update task, and if it boot looped, or soft bricked, I'd immediately reboot into TWRP and restore. I remember having to do that at least twice on the LG. Each time the backup restored properly and I was up and running again in 20 mins or less. There's no current backup/restore process for the Pixel that even comes close. Titanium even lets you restore individual apps/data from a TWRP backup image. You don't have to restore the entire thing. Which I'd done several times on the LG.
It's a shame. One of the reasons I chose the P6P was because I thought with it's popularity, it wouldn't take long for TWRP to be available. It may not be as valuable or necessary as it was in the past for it's flashing functions, but it certainly would be very useful, (to me anyway) for it's image backup function.
I'd definitely chip in for a TWRP bounty. For the backup alone.
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Nice. It is definitely good to have options.
mkhcb said:
Wouldn't it be cool to just download the monthly updates and then flash it without a computer and follow that by flashing root instantly? I miss the good ol' TWRP day. We should all pitch in for a TWRP bounty. What do you folks think about that?
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Yeah if the p6pro gets official lineage os would even be cool to have lineage recovery
Just a thought.