I would like to ask a favor from the entire Verizon Note 4 Community. The purpose of this post is to see if there are any ROMs/kernels in existence at this time to properly handle the Fast Charging setting when the phone is turned off, and also to poll those who still have a locked phone. Before unlocking, I seem to remember not seeing a "Fast Charging" message with my phone turned off when I had Fast Charging disabled, but it's been nearly a year and I don't remember.
Fast Charging is a feature that came with the Note 4, only supported by the stock battery. Extended batteries such as the Zerolemon battery, do not support this feature and require the feature to be shut off for more accurate readings. The following test can be done with any battery, stock or extended.
Please do a test for me and reply with your results. To do the test, you MUST have the following two items:
Verizon Note 4
Stock Charger with Stock Cable (or compatible QuickCharge 2.0 charger and cable)
With your phones somewhat drained, please turn them off and then connect them to your chargers. Does it say they are fast charging or not? At this point, it SHOULD.
Now, disconnect the chargers, turn your phones back on, disable Fast Charging (Settings>Battery>Untick Fast Charging), turn them off and reconnect the charger. Does it still say it's Fast Charging?
With Fast Charging disabled, please report:
Do you see "Fast Charging" displayed with your phone turned off and your charger plugged in?
Are you Unlocked/Rooted? If so, what ROM/Kernel are you using?
If you're still Locked/Unrooted, what version of Android are you on? (if you have no idea what this means, this PROBABLY applies to you. )
Don't forget to re-enable Fast-Charging when you turn your phones back on. You might actually be prompted to re-enable it, if connected to a Fast Charger.
It was always automatic for me and would let me know with the message, rooted or not.
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I'm on EmotionOS. My battery charge time suggests my fast charging is working but it does not display messages regarding the fast charging capability. My battery life is amazing with this rom.
Are you on stock ROM? The 6.0.1 OTA had a lot of battery issues, I stopped fast charging with MM completely, but it would only charge with a fast charger base. Have you pulled any battery logs or looked at your charging rates while it was on?
JOSHSKORN said:
I would like to ask a favor from the entire Verizon Note 4 Community. The purpose of this post is to see if there are any ROMs/kernels in existence at this time to properly handle the Fast Charging setting when the phone is turned off, and also to poll those who still have a locked phone. Before unlocking, I seem to remember not seeing a "Fast Charging" message with my phone turned off when I had Fast Charging disabled, but it's been nearly a year and I don't remember.
Fast Charging is a feature that came with the Note 4, only supported by the stock battery. Extended batteries such as the Zerolemon battery, do not support this feature and require the feature to be shut off for more accurate readings. The following test can be done with any battery, stock or extended.
Please do a test for me and reply with your results. To do the test, you MUST have the following two items:
Verizon Note 4
Stock Charger with Stock Cable (or compatible QuickCharge 2.0 charger and cable)
With your phones somewhat drained, please turn them off and then connect them to your chargers. Does it say they are fast charging or not? At this point, it SHOULD.
Now, disconnect the chargers, turn your phones back on, disable Fast Charging (Settings>Battery>Untick Fast Charging), turn them off and reconnect the charger. Does it still say it's Fast Charging?
With Fast Charging disabled, please report:
Do you see "Fast Charging" displayed with your phone turned off and your charger plugged in?
If you're still Locked/Unrooted, what version of Android are you on? (if you have no idea what this means, this PROBABLY applies to you. )
Don't forget to re-enable Fast-Charging when you turn your phones back on. You might actually be prompted to re-enable it, if connected to a Fast Charger.
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have to point out this test would only work on stock touchwiz ROM or a port of one. fast charging is a Samsung device specific. I'm running emotion OS 7.1.1 it does not say fast charging but I can (with my power adapter micro USB combo that both specifically state fast charge) go from 50% battery to full charge in under half an hour. without these (afore mentioned power supply/cable) it states 1hr 21 mins (on lockscreen) till full . in conclusion the fast charge notification isn't the determining factor but rather the actual charge time
I have a stock unrooted Verizon Note 4. It has the standard stock battery. I just tested this out. It shows fast charging regardless if fast charging is enabled or disabled when turned off and plugged in.
Patch7 said:
I have a stock unrooted Verizon Note 4. It has the standard stock battery. I just tested this out. It shows fast charging regardless if fast charging is enabled or disabled when turned off and plugged in.
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Thank you. What Android version are you on?
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Thank you. What Android version are you on?
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6.01
Patch7 said:
6.01
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Wow you're quick at responding. Thanks. Have you done anything to your phone other than take OTAs?
I could swear my phone would not say fast charging before I was unlocked and rooted, granted I was not on MM 6.0.1. I'm wondering if that makes a difference and if something happened in the upgrade that disabled functionality to truly disable Fast Charging.
I am up later than usual tonight. I have only taken OTA's on this phone with Verizon. It is up to date with the latest software.
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Hi every one,
As far i know, there is a BUG on every official ROM for European GSM Touch Pro2.
When your battery get full charged and keeping it plugged to the wallcharger, then your Pro2 start taking the power from your battery and NOT from the charger.
This can be checked by yourself and you will see that even with it connected, the battery in running down charge, till you unplug it and plug it again after some minutes/seconds.
Yeah, I have noticed it as well. Anyone have a solution?
Not a bug. LiPoly's do not like being trickle charged, therefore the charger turns off.
I have not verified it on the TP2 but I suspect that if you let it sit long enough the battery level would drop to some level and the charger would charge it back to 100%.
This is a rather good new if it can manage battery loads cycles...
khaytsus said:
Not a bug. LiPoly's do not like being trickle charged, therefore the charger turns off.
I have not verified it on the TP2 but I suspect that if you let it sit long enough the battery level would drop to some level and the charger would charge it back to 100%.
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It oughta turn the charger off and run the device from the mains, though, not from the battery. Is it doing that?
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It oughta turn the charger off and run the device from the mains, though, not from the battery. Is it doing that?
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No it is NOT doing that, so to me it is a BUG.
just thought i would add this
for some reason on saturday i charged my phone via usb/pc and it lasted less than 24 hrs
so on sunday i drained it and charged it vis the plug
its still going noe
72 hrs 23 mins in stanby 30 mins talk and 4 hrs 7 mins use since 17.43 on 18/10/09
is never been this good so i thought it may be the new rom
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-21.htm
Lithium-ion
(Li-ion)
Do charge the battery often. The battery lasts longer with partial rather than full discharges.
Do not use if pack gets hot during charge. Check also charger.
Charge methods: Constant voltage to 4.20V/cell (typical). No trickle-charge when full. Li-ion may remain in the charger (no memory). Battery must remain cool. No fast-charge possible.
Rapid charge = 3h
also i have read some where on xda that once it reaches 100% it'll stop charging
godefroi said:
It oughta turn the charger off and run the device from the mains, though, not from the battery. Is it doing that?
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You know of any other modern phone that runs off the mains without the battery? None of my last three phones would without the battery.
khaytsus said:
You know of any other modern phone that runs off the mains without the battery? None of my last three phones would without the battery.
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My Kaiser will. It turns off when you pull the battery, but you can turn it right back on.
Every one is talking about battery and it's components but no one speaks about that with charger pluged in, it should supply power and by pass the battery once it is fully charged like others models do.
sounds like you all need to do warranty exchanges for that lol
Tallpap said:
sounds like you all need to do warranty exchanges for that lol
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No, what we need is that HTC do what we paid for.
User22 said:
Every one is talking about battery and it's components but no one speaks about that with charger pluged in, it should supply power and by pass the battery once it is fully charged like others models do.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=571606 some people here probably would help
xnifex said:
it's true, once the TP2 hits 100% it stops charging the battery & the usage time will kick in.
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and on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=573037&page=4 which a guy says
mattdoyal said:
Just tried my TP2 without the battery and plugged, didn't power on. Why would they take away the ability to power on while plugged in but with the battery removed?? This was and would be a great troubleshooting step. Hey HTC, start building our phones with this option!!
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i hope this helps
Have in mind that once the battery is fully charged, it never go to charge again till you unplug the cable of your wall/car charger... so what will hapen then???
hello anyone know about the issue with the battery ok when i charge my euro tp2 all night and when i go to start>settings>all settings>system>power i then click on the infomation tab and under last full charge i get "not applicable" and get 0 hours and 0minute for the rest
im running the offical htc 6.5 rom
To me this sounds CRAZY. So people are saying that when the device is fully charged it starts to use its battery, thats just crazy... So basically charging it overnight leaves you with "almost" full battery in the morning...
I havent noticed anything out of the ordinary, and every morning when I come and take my device from the charger the charging light is green (opposed to the orange when started charging) and the battery shows to be 100% full.
I will check this again in the morning as I havent really paid 10000% attention to it, but I think I would have noticed the weird behaviour…
noticed this since day 1. my dash didnt do this. i did notice that a soft reset will resume the charge.
This is normal behavior for battery powered devices.
When it's plugged in, the charge circuit charges the battery.
The device itself always runs off the battery when it's available, this is why some devices won't power on without the battery installed, and many devices won't power on with a failed battery installed.
Laptops do the same thing, though they can switch to AC only without losing their state.
It's a holdover I think from when electronics couldn't switch between power sources fast enough to not lose anything (I remember the original game boy would reset no matter what if you tried to switch between batt and AC). It's possible that cell phones can't make this transition since there isn't really extra space to stuff in the bits that allow this (some large-ish caps).
I've also heard that this reduces wear on the electronics, because the voltage is more reliable, but I've never seen that documented.
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The device itself always runs off the battery when it's available, this is why some devices won't power on without the battery installed, and many devices won't power on with a failed battery installed.
Laptops do the same thing, though they can switch to AC only without losing their state.
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I don't think this is true for (modern) laptops. All the macbooks and thinkpads that I've owned had a feature that if you plug it in while the battery is above X% (usually around 96) it will not charge. It even gives a message saying "Not Charging" in the battery status. The battery percentage then stays constant no matter how long I use the laptop, so it is not DIScharging either. Therefore it must be running from AC. If it can do that, I doubt they would have it run off the battery as soon as it is charged to 100% on a full charge cycle. I think any time AC is plugged in, a modern laptop will run from AC rather than battery, regardless of whether it is currently charging the battery. However, that's just my theory from personal observations.
I've contacted Samsung about this, they told me to disconnect the battery for 30 seconds and then power up again. It works, but now I have to do this every day. The phone indicates that the battery is charging. Sometimes it will charge very slowly (15% in 8 hours) or charge normally then stop (at around 50-60%). I'm getting frustrated. I'm using the T-Mobile version on AT&T and I'm not sure if I can go to the T-Mobile story (as Samsung recommended) to get it exchanged, seeing as I am not one of their customers.
Anyone else experiencing this? Any tips?
I'm running stock rooted, no T-Mobile bloat but still have S-Pen apps.
Thanks
Edit: I seem to have wandered into the Sprint section by mistake. I have no idea how, since I always browse the T-Mobile. Sorry about this, and thanks for not killing me as I might have.
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I've contacted Samsung about this, they told me to disconnect the battery for 30 seconds and then power up again. It works, but now I have to do this every day. The phone indicates that the battery is charging. Sometimes it will charge very slowly (15% in 8 hours) or charge normally then stop (at around 50-60%). I'm getting frustrated. I'm using the T-Mobile version on AT&T and I'm not sure if I can go to the T-Mobile story (as Samsung recommended) to get it exchanged, seeing as I am not one of their customers.
Anyone else experiencing this? Any tips?
I'm running stock rooted, no T-Mobile bloat but still have S-Pen apps.
Thanks
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Is it charging slowly through the wall or through the usb cable plugged into a computer? If it is indeed the usb cable, you'll want to find a custom kernel with the charging rate upped form 500mA to something more like 900mA. I'd link you to the Sprint version, but I see you are using T-Mobile.
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Is it charging slowly through the wall or through the usb cable plugged into a computer? If it is indeed the usb cable, you'll want to find a custom kernel with the charging rate upped form 500mA to something more like 900mA. I'd link you to the Sprint version, but I see you are using T-Mobile.
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I'm using the wall charger, always. I should have mentioned that. Is there no risk of damaging the battery by changing the charging rate? Also, what could account for the fact that it used to charge just fine?
are you using the oem charger that came with the phone? The oem is a 5A charger that will charge the phone fast.
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are you using the oem charger that came with the phone? The oem is a 5A charger that will charge the phone fast.
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Yes, I am using the charger that came with the phone. It used to charge the phone very vast.
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are you using the oem charger that came with the phone? The oem is a 5A charger that will charge the phone fast.
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2A charger not 5. 5 would be pretty dangerous.
The L980 is the first phone I've owned that notified me when it was "slow charging" versus regularly charging--regularly, as in simply showing a message saying "charging has begun." I don't have a single complaint about this monster of a battery, but I'm extremely anal with and adamant about not frivolously charging my devices in order to extend the battery's longevity.
My first question is if this behavior is even necessary.... I remember reading a few years ago that lithium-ion battery cells "get weaker" each time they are plugged in to begin a new charge cycle--no matter the current battery level, from 0% to 99% full--and subsequently lose longevity. Is this even true? If so, for this phone, does changing charge state (b/t slow charging and normal charging) have the same effect on the battery as does beginning a new charge cycle?
Just wondering. So far, I've been able to make it 2 days on one full charge!!
I personally don't think it matters which mode it's in. I will say that the phone has a flag that shows you slow charging if the amperage isn't up to what the stick charger puts out. You can technically say that this phone has a" rapid charge" feature that's always activated until it senses a lower amperage.
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May I know under what conditions that you will be notified it is "slow charging" versus regularly charging? I have never had that notification either when I charge it with the USB cable or the wireless charger..
I've had it say that occasionally when plugged into the USB port on my computer, or into my car charger.
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I've had it say that occasionally when plugged into the USB port on my computer, or into my car charger.
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I've noticed that it also matters how you put - or better - TURN your charger in the wall socket (I tried turning it 180 degrees, thus changing the polarity of the fork and voila, my phone charges fast)
I just got a t-mobile version of the S4 and I'm loving it, but I noticed it is very very slow to charge.
Aside from light to medium usage i didn't touch it much between last night and today. I had it plugged in and charging via USB, but it maybe charged about 40-45% in 6+ hours. My old phone (LG G2X) never took this long to charge.
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This was using the Stock T-mobile Rom
I have since rooted and installed CM10 nightly on the phone, It appears to suffer the same issue
Between 9:27 to 10:00 it went from 67% to %74, My LG went from %39 -%56 in about 20 minutes. By those quick number it will take 7 hours to charge the S4 while only 3 to fully charge the g2x
Is this normal? is there anything i can do to fix/test or alleviate this?
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I had it plugged in and charging via USB,
Is this normal? is there anything i can do to fix/test or alleviate this?
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The question for you is the source? If you plugged it into your compy, it will take forever as standard compy USB ports (USB 2.0) provide only about 500 mA. The stock S4 charger is 2 Amps.
The fix, plug the phone into the wall using your stock charger. If it is still slow, it is probably your battery. Good luck.
Make sure to use the charger that it came with. Ever since I started using the stock charger my battery charges fast. Also it could be your plug so test it with another just in case.
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Yup it was the charger, I have chargers pretty much where ever i go so i just used those. With the stock one it works great but i ran into another issue. I plugged it in and it was taking a really long time to charge with the stock charger, something like 3% in 30 minutes. I had to unplug and plug in the cable again and it charged normally.
Is this something I should worry about?
It could be possible that the cable was not properly seated in the phone, or the charger end was not properly seated in the wall cube. I wouldn't lose sleep over it unless it happens often. Could be a phone problem, but sounds like a one off to me.
Yea my lady like to use my charger with her HTC phone because it "charges faster". The S4 stock charger has the highest amp rating and provides juice at the highest rate to any device. :good:
icewolf293 said:
I just got a t-mobile version of the S4 and I'm loving it, but I noticed it is very very slow to charge.
Aside from light to medium usage i didn't touch it much between last night and today. I had it plugged in and charging via USB, but it maybe charged about 40-45% in 6+ hours. My old phone (LG G2X) never took this long to charge.
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This was using the Stock T-mobile Rom
I have since rooted and installed CM10 nightly on the phone, It appears to suffer the same issue
Between 9:27 to 10:00 it went from 67% to %74, My LG went from %39 -%56 in about 20 minutes. By those quick number it will take 7 hours to charge the S4 while only 3 to fully charge the g2x
Is this normal? is there anything i can do to fix/test or alleviate this?
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There are a few factors here.....
1. The charger itself. The original Samsung is a 2A charger. If you use a different one (most are only 1A) it will take twice as long to charge.
2. The USB Cable. Believe it or not, not all cables are the same. With the standard charger and cable you will be able to charge @ 1900mA. Less then 2 hours to fully charge a completely dead battery. But.... plugging some USB cables into the standard charger will limit the charge down to just 600mA.... taking 3x_ longer to charge.
3. The other is the kernel. If you're using a newer custom kernel Samsung has limited to a max of 1200mA with the screen on & full 1900mA with the screen off.
Lastly, you can download an app on the playstore called Galaxy Charging Current. This will show you the charging rate should you want to test your setup.
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There are a few factors here.....
2. The USB Cable. Believe it or not, not all cables are the same. With the standard charger and cable you will be able to charge @ 1900mA. Less then 2 hours to fully charge a completely dead battery. But.... plugging some USB cables into the standard charger will limit the charge down to just 600mA.... taking 3x_ longer to charge..
Lastly, you can download an app on the playstore called Galaxy Charging Current. This will show you the charging rate should you want to test your setup.
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This man speaks the truth. I use CurrentWidget and set to manual update. Whenever I'm testing cables/chargers, I plug in a known good cable (charges at 1900) to see what the charger is putting out. I do the same with a known good charger (2A - iPad and S4) and test the cables
I just received my new batteries from Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Q4NQQA0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
I charged it up in the external charger until it indicated full. When I installed it and booted, it said 91%. I ran it down to about 15%, then plugged the phone into the charger. Now it only goes up to 86%.
When I first swapped the battery, I held the power button for about 30 seconds then installed the battery (as recommended when flashing TX's Note port).
Is there a proper way to calibrate a new battery? Might I just have a defective one?
Thanks for any advice,
Mike
I recommend pulling it off the travel charger and putting it right back on. If the light changes within a minute it was full. If not... It wasn't. You can do the battery calibrate app but your phone will figure it out on its own.
My best advice is to toss your old battery and only use the 2 new matched batteries. The phone will have errors in battery percentage if it is calibrating batteries that have different discharge rates due to age/size.
In a perfect world only charge them on the travel charger
Put it back on to make sure it's 100.
Discharge to 0 or the point the phone shuts down every time as well
A few days and your phone will display correctly
THROW AWAY YOUR FAST CHARGER.
Fast charging is the fastest way to a new battery.
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THROW AWAY YOUR FAST CHARGER.
Fast charging is the fastest way to a new battery.
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The new MM has the option to turn off the fast charging, can't he just turn this off instead of trashing his charger?
xbmoyx said:
The new MM has the option to turn off the fast charging, can't he just turn this off instead of trashing his charger?
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Yeah. I wish we all had that option. I know some you have to plug in the fast charger to access the setting to turn it off.