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Bought a G3 , What do I do now?

Hey guys, I've just received my new G3
My knowledge with android phones is very weak, having only rooting my 1st Gen Nexus 7 to and flashing stock roms & owning a windows phone .
Is it worth flashing a new rom to my G3 or should I stick with stock? Any ROM's which are highly regarded? How would I do this + root?
I will be having a 32gb memory card in this phone, Is it better to install everything on the SD card in the first place e.g apps,pictures e.c.t. so if I decide to flash a new ROM I wouldn't lose everything.
Also is there any way to get my contacts from windows live onto my new phone?
I would greatly appreciate your help

* Use it !
* be aware of the sd card, it should be a modern one so you don't risk performance
* don't bother installing stuff on the card - apps are lost anyway
* you can keep personal media / pics / etc on the card, that is a reasonable practice ...
* the current state of software (lollipop) doesn't allow root / flashing stuff; however there are options for kit kat (if you are still on it) and moving then to lollipop keeping your custom parts that allow third party flashing (my 2 cents this is not worth it at the moment ...)
* moving contacts along should be easy by either syncing them to some cloud service (outlook maybe) or exporting / importing them - LG software knows how to import popular formats ...

If you are new read phone FAQ then.

Root it and install xposed framework

you wouldn't recommend any of the lollipop custom roms?
what does xposed framework do?
i am in a similar situation as OP, have been away from android development scene since the S3.

gotbass said:
you wouldn't recommend any of the lollipop custom roms?
what does xposed framework do?
i am in a similar situation as OP, have been away from android development scene since the S3.
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As above. I was looking at the AndroidNow HD rom which seems to look good but is it worth the upgrade over stock?
At the time of writing this, I've successfully rooted my G3 & my current firmware is 4.4.2

how are you finding stock? is it a smooth experience?
im getting mine tomorrow and going on holiday on Saturday so i need to make sure i have the best experience =D

gotbass said:
what does xposed framework do?
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It allows you to tweak a wide range of things, it's fantastic, but only works on Dalvik, not Art. So you have to use KitKat.
kraven001 said:
...the current state of software (lollipop) doesn't allow root...
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Yes it does.
@op flash AndroidNowHD if you have any troubles with it let us know.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2887669
This is the Index thread and it's great to catch up on threads you might have missed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2772658
Here are some threads on getting better battery life / performance.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/battery-ultimate-battery-guide-talk-t29637313
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/thermal-mod-t2907363
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/lag-solutions-t2816188
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/how-to-make-lg-g3-smooth-butter-t2834111
If you want to check on the default most up-to-date stock rom for your particular phone is, check here.
http://lg-firmware-rom.com/
This will help you decide which I/O schedulers will be the one for you ( most use either row or cfq )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1558153
Also, install this - it helps with reducing battery usage with the Google Play Services.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.playfulgeeks.gservicefix&hl=en
Last but not least, how-to-flash guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/flashing-guide-to-lg-t2825369

[Q] Which ROM should I be using?

Hi,
I'm new here (hallo @all) as I'd like to install CM on my Tab3 8.0" mainly because of the privacy-settings (have to use some apps who requiere more Rights than they need, 3rd-party-tools are not working, but my Xperia running CM can block unnecessary Access-Requests without distrubing the functionality of the App)
So actually I'm not sure if I should give the CM12 a chance (or try CM11) as Images can be found in the Development-Thread...
I'd need following things working:
Wireless
Bluetooth
Frontcamera (for Skype)
SD-Card (as I've read threads mentioning problems with ext. SDCards)
(Video-Playback from DLNA-Sources (and/or from SD-Card) would be great)
and as a must:
Privacy-Settings (readjust app-Entitlements) must be running...
...everything else working is great, of course (especially no big(ger) drain on Batterylife than with stockROM)...
...reading this - which ROM would you recommend me?
Shall I give gr8nole's CM12 a chance or are other Images more suitable for my requirements?
Thanks for your answers and sorry if I should have posted in the wrong Section...
Cheers,
the unlucky

theunlucky said:
Hi,
I'm new here (hallo @all) as I'd like to install CM on my Tab3 8.0" mainly because of the privacy-settings (have to use some apps who requiere more Rights than they need, 3rd-party-tools are not working, but my Xperia running CM can block unnecessary Access-Requests without distrubing the functionality of the App)
So actually I'm not sure if I should give the CM12 a chance (or try CM11) as Images can be found in the Development-Thread...
I'd need following things working:
Wireless
Bluetooth
Frontcamera (for Skype)
SD-Card (as I've read threads mentioning problems with ext. SDCards)
(Video-Playback from DLNA-Sources (and/or from SD-Card) would be great)
and as a must:
Privacy-Settings (readjust app-Entitlements) must be running...
...everything else working is great, of course (especially no big(ger) drain on Batterylife than with stockROM)...
...reading this - which ROM would you recommend me?
Shall I give gr8nole's CM12 a chance or are other Images more suitable for my requirements?
Thanks for your answers and sorry if I should have posted in the wrong Section...
Cheers,
the unlucky
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If you want everything to work AND to have the ability to adjust app permissions, you should give my NoleKat rom a try. I have enabled the App Ops feature in settings.
Sent from my SM-T310 using Tapatalk

Hi gr8nole,
found the Thread for NoleKat - looks intresting and I'll give it a try, thanks
(also thanks for the whole development you put into the firmwares!)

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gr8nole said:
If you want everything to work AND to have the ability to adjust app permissions, you should give my NoleKat rom a try. I have enabled the App Ops feature in settings.
Sent from my SM-T310 using Tapatalk
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This is my first time to root a tablet. I have successfully rooted my Samsung Galaxy tab 3 7 (SM-T210R). But know I dont know were to go from here. I see posted about removing bloats from the system, and overclocking but not sure what I should do. Any suggestions, I was leaning toward installing CM11 but have not took that leap yet.
Thanks gr8nole for the hours you have spent programing for us novice guys.

[Q] xperia z1c lollipop memory leak issue

is current xperia z1c lollipop still have memory leak issue ?
I used lollipop for 2 days already. and it always restart my game (minimized to background) after I open browser to use google (yeah only 2 recent apps displayed. chrome and game apps).
I hate this because my game need long time and heavy bandwidth at loading screen. I never get this problem when I used kitkat. I heard there's xposed module to fix this memory leak issue but my phone isnt rooted.
or is there a way to return to default OS (kitkat) like when I first bought it ? maybe I'll do this way. reset it to kitkat again. but I dont know how.
thanks.

You can flash stock kitkat with flashtool. I should have stock EU . 157 rom somewhere on my pc and can upload it if you want.
Flashing stock rom is pretty easy. Watch a tutorial or something. I can help you a bit more when back home.
Back to your question. I have no idea I'm still running kitkat as L is still not available in my country.

Ephixi4 said:
You can flash stock kitkat with flashtool. I should have stock EU . 157 rom somewhere on my pc and can upload it if you want.
Flashing stock rom is pretty easy. Watch a tutorial or something. I can help you a bit more when back home.
Back to your question. I have no idea I'm still running kitkat as L is still not available in my country.
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is it working to use your stock rom at my country ? I thought different country have different kind of rom. not sure about this if this is true or not.
flashing stock rom doesnt need root access, right ? and maybe can I also backup current lollipop OS that I have so I can reflash it when it has been fixed ?.
so far what I like from lollipop is when someone call me, I can still use other app because call notification only use small box on top of my current running app. I like this feature very much.

It depends where do you live. If in EU it should be fine. If not I can find a rom good for your location.
No, flashing custom rom does not require rooted device.
I think you don't have to do the backup as you'll be able to just update it again ( at least I think so)

-Vermillion- said:
is it working to use your stock rom at my country ? I thought different country have different kind of rom. not sure about this if this is true or not.
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Yeah..some features change county wise..
flashing stock rom doesnt need root access, right ? and maybe can I also backup current lollipop OS that I have so I can reflash it when it has been fixed ?
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Yes. But you dont have to backup the OS. You can download the Firmware using the XperiaFirm Tool >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...xperifirm-xperia-firmware-downloader-t2834142
And here is how to convert the files >> http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/08/1...re-files-using-xperifirm-and-flashtool-guide/

Ephixi4 said:
It depends where do you live. If in EU it should be fine. If not I can find a rom good for your location.
No, flashing custom rom does not require rooted device.
I think you don't have to do the backup as you'll be able to just update it again ( at least I think so)
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is that mean I can flash pre-rooted rom, shared from Xperia Z1 Compact General subforum without unlock bootloader ?
wow then I better use that. I want lollipop+root+xposed but dont want to unlock my bootloader :victory:
getvaisakh said:
Yeah..some features change county wise..
Yes. But you dont have to backup the OS. You can download the Firmware using the XperiaFirm Tool >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...xperifirm-xperia-firmware-downloader-t2834142
And here is how to convert the files >> http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/08/1...re-files-using-xperifirm-and-flashtool-guide/
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wow this is nice info. I've just tried using that xperiafirm tool and it shows my country firmware.

Generally you can root your phone without unlocking bootloader. It worked for me, at least on kitkat. I'm not sure what about the Lollipop though.
You should better ask someone else too as I'm not as experienced and don't want to give you false info.
But if there's pre-rooted rom here and it's working for android L you don't have to unlock bootloader to flash it.

-Vermillion- said:
is that mean I can flash pre-rooted rom, shared from Xperia Z1 Compact General subforum without unlock bootloader ?
wow then I better use that. I want lollipop+root+xposed but dont want to unlock my bootloader :victory:
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Please give a feedback to me as I also want Lp+root+xposed. *cheers*.
btw, if u wish to stay in KK (since xposed in LP wont work perfectly, seen people commenting on that) there is an easy method to root..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sony-xperia-z1-compact/general/root-fw-14-4-0-157-lb-ubl-t2977774

Ephixi4 said:
Generally you can root your phone without unlocking bootloader. It worked for me, at least on kitkat. I'm not sure what about the Lollipop though.
You should better ask someone else too as I'm not as experienced and don't want to give you false info.
But if there's pre-rooted rom here and it's working for android L you don't have to unlock bootloader to flash it.
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yeah. I've tried root without unlock bootloader and it worked. as long as I use correct kernel that can be rooted.
getvaisakh said:
Please give a feedback to me as I also want Lp+root+xposed. *cheers*.
btw, if u wish to stay in KK (since xposed in LP wont work perfectly, seen people commenting on that) there is an easy method to root..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sony-xperia-z1-compact/general/root-fw-14-4-0-157-lb-ubl-t2977774
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okay I can get lollipop with root+xposed (all day tried this. I read some tutorial how to do it properly because this is my 1st time doing something like this. so tired ). although I dont know if xposed wont work perfectly like you said because I only use 3 modules so far. App Settings (keep screen on for game I'm playing) and Fix Lollipop Memory Leak and gravitybox (LP).
what I've done :
- downloaded kitkat 14.4.A.0.157 from XperiFirm. and flashed it using flashtool.
- I've realized .0157 can't be rooted for now. so I've used your link that you gave (Root FW 14.4.A.0.157 (LB/UBL) ).
- after get root access, then I installed recovery using Z1C-lockeddualrecovery2.8.11-RELEASE.installer.zip from http://nut.xperia-files.com/
- after that I flashed 14.5.A.0.242_CustomizedFR_Pre-Rooted_Dualrecovery 2.8.10 + Fix Xposed for Lollipop using recovery.
- and flashed Massive debloating and Xposed. links and procedure are also from that pre-rooted rom thread.
so far, no bootloop. dont know if I add some xposed modules again. I heard it will get bootloop if too many xposed modules is installed (?)

-Vermillion- said:
yeah. I've tried root without unlock bootloader and it worked. as long as I use correct kernel that can be rooted.
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:good:
okay I can get lollipop with root+xposed (all day tried this. I read some tutorial how to do it properly because this is my 1st time doing something like this. so tired ).
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I know that feel :angel:
I have found a way to root stock LP having ULB. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60188952
Now going to try xposed. Since you have, tell me how.. Here is the official thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3034811. Is this where you get info?
although I dont know if xposed wont work perfectly like you said because I only use 2 modules so far. App Settings (keep screen on for game I'm playing) and Fix Lollipop Memory Leak (still dont know if this module will work.)
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Xposed worked perfectly in KK. I tried more than five modules at a time without the bootloop issue. What I fear is the LP. Havent you checked the dev/Q&A thread of the modules?
what I've done :
- downloaded kitkat 14.4.A.0.157 from XperiFirm. and flashed it using flashtool.
- I've realized .0157 can't be rooted for now. so I've used your link that you gave (Root FW 14.4.A.0.157 (LB/UBL) ).
- after get root access, then I installed recovery using Z1C-lockeddualrecovery2.8.11-RELEASE.installer.zip from http://nut.xperia-files.com/
- after that I flashed 14.5.A.0.242_CustomizedFR_Pre-Rooted_Dualrecovery 2.8.10 + Fix Xposed for Lollipop using recovery.
- and flashed Massive debloating and Xposed. links and procedure are also from that pre-rooted rom thread.
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wow so much struggle... I have a doubt, why not simply flash that pre-rooted ftf file over the KK? [being lazy to search for the thread]
So how is it feels? Dont forget to share your views and link to the thread..
I heard it will get bootloop if too many xposed modules is installed (?)
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I dont know that. But I heard that activating some module(s) when some other module(s) is(are) active may cause bootloop in KK.

Hey there, the XperiFirm dev here.
No one answered your question so I will. The answer is: No.
Sony made sure to include the memory leak fix built in (the exact fix that the Xposed module offers) for their Lollipop releases. The Xposed module is pointless.
See attached screenshot. Basically the Xposed module replaces the AOSP function with exactly the same function but with this additional "release()" line. As you can see, Xperia already has this line included.

IaguCool said:
Hey there, the XperiFirm dev here.
No one answered your question so I will. The answer is: No.
Sony made sure to include the memory leak fix built in (the exact fix that the Xposed module offers) for their Lollipop releases. The Xposed module is pointless.
See attached screenshot. Basically the Xposed module replaces the AOSP function with exactly the same function but with this additional "release()" line. As you can see, Xperia already has this line included.
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wow thanks to coming here :victory:
lol. so it's pointless to install that module because they are same thing exactly. time to uninstall.
actually my game is still restarted after I browsing a little. although I still see a lot of free memory in here. before, I thought this is because of that memory leak issue but I'm wrong.
if only there's module that can prevent lollipop refresh/restart/clear my game at memory when I minimized it at background.

I have the same problem, only with audio apps in the background. Pocket Casts, Stitcher and BeyondPod all crash and stop playing when running in the background, after I do something else like load the game Threes. This never used to happen with KitKat. I've also noticed that iplayer radio gets very jerky and skips back and forth by a quarter of a second continuously as soon as I turn off the screen. [edit - I just listened to it for a few minutes with the screen off and it suddenly cut out. I turned the screen on an the app was no longer in my notifications tray]
If Sony fixed this particular memory leak, what's going wrong with my phone? Could it be related to the fact that I've encrypted if for the first time? I'm getting desperate enough to consider factory resetting and losing everything, because listening to podcasts and playing threes is one of my favourite activities. It's not a demanding game for my year old, top of the line phone. My cheap tablet manages it, and so did the phone on KitKat!

Help a novice please - have ROOTED Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 (SM-T320) - Update?

I just received a used Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 (SM-T320) - and discovered (not known to me before purchase) it is Rooted.
When I went to do an Update via standard Settings>about Device - it refused returning tablet modified.
also it had the App SuperSU (free) installed) which asked about permission on a couple of Apps I used.
I have absolutely no experience of Rooted tablets,
and currently have no idea how the tablet was rooted, and what with.
So I am seeking your patience and some advice about this, please.
Is there a way to return to the Stock installation?
If so, how to I check that this is possible?
Or should I keep the Root?
If so, how do I update the tablet?
eg: how do I check what, or if any, custom ROM has been installed?
or
which custom ROM do people advise I install?
Thanks for any advice.
Vincent

Just back up your valuable data and storage contents and flash stock via Odin. And I believe at this time point the updates are not of much importance, so if you're on KitKat you might as well ignore that if you can't spare time for backups.
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AndyYan said:
Just back up your valuable data and storage contents and flash stock via Odin. And I believe at this time point the updates are not of much importance, so if you're on KitKat you might as well ignore that if you can't spare time for backups.
Thanks for the reply.
Funny that was starting to be my take too.
Either leave it rooted as is - since it really is just KitKat 4.4.2 - but with more ability.
Or later when the spirit moves perhaps upgrade via a custom rom.
Thank you.
Vincent
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@vincent. I have the same tablet as you and I prefer to run the latest OS which is Marshmallow. As you state you are already rooted so you might as well try out a custom ROM. I recommend Resurrection Remix ROM by Vasumit and the XDA thread can be found here. Latest update to ROM is here. You will also need to install gapps. I recommend Banks Dynamic Gapps 6.X.X found here. Give it a try, I'm sure you will like it. ROM is buttery smooth and Vasumit updates it often. :good::good:

DowntownRDB said:
@vincent. I have the same tablet as you and I prefer to run the latest OS which is Marshmallow. As you state you are already rooted so you might as well try out a custom ROM. I recommend Resurrection Remix ROM by Vasumit and the XDA thread can be found here. Latest update to ROM is here. You will also need to install gapps. I recommend Banks Dynamic Gapps 6.X.X found here. Give it a try, I'm sure you will like it. ROM is buttery smooth and Vasumit updates it often. :good::good:
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DowntownRDB
Thank you so much for your encouragement and suggestion.
Even though I have used Android on tablets and phones for years -
I am still a n00b when it comes to Root and Custom ROMs
I have heard of the more famous ROMs like CyanogenMod etc -
what makes Resurrection Remix ROM by Vasumit better than CyanogenMod
in terms of features and/or support please?
How easy (or not) are custom ROMs to undo?
Many thanks,

UnknownVT said:
I have heard of the more famous ROMs like CyanogenMod etc -
what makes Resurrection Remix ROM by Vasumit better than CyanogenMod
in terms of features and/or support please?
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Personal opinion below: most AOSP-based ROMs have equal or slightly better support than CM because the team behind them is much smaller, but they might die out one day because of the same reason. CM maintains a huge number of devices and is the basis of many, so it's not likely to disappear soon. Also, CM is usually among the quickest to get to a new Android version while others usually sync from CM and start from there.
As of features, others are guaranteed to have more than CM. CM doesn't like adding features these days.
How easy (or not) are custom ROMs to undo?
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Do: Flash TWRP, make a full backup of your stock ROM, full wipe and flash the new one.
Undo: Full wipe and restore the old backup, or if you decide you don't want your data, use Odin.
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AndyYan said:
Personal opinion below: most AOSP-based ROMs have equal or slightly better support than CM because the team behind them is much smaller, but they might die out one day because of the same reason. CM maintains a huge number of devices and is the basis of many, so it's not likely to disappear soon. Also, CM is usually among the quickest to get to a new Android version while others usually sync from CM and start from there.
As of features, others are guaranteed to have more than CM. CM doesn't like adding features these days.
Do: Flash TWRP, make a full backup of your stock ROM, full wipe and flash the new one.
Undo: Full wipe and restore the old backup, or if you decide you don't want your data, use Odin.
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Thank you very much for the very helpful reply -
this was about as good as I was hoping for -
really appreciate all the help I am getting here, thank you.
It will take a bit of time for me to get my head around the information - as it is all new to me -
and I want to proceed with care/caution so I don't end up bricking my tablet.
Gratefully and thanks,

UnknownVT said:
Thank you very much for the very helpful reply -
this was about as good as I was hoping for -
really appreciate all the help I am getting here, thank you.
It will take a bit of time for me to get my head around the information - as it is all new to me -
and I want to proceed with care/caution so I don't end up bricking my tablet.
Gratefully and thanks,
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Hey!
you could look at it this way, most of the people here have a hard time just ulocking the device and rooting it, not that yours is already done, might as well right. along with the proper research, your device could be one hundred times better, the stock OS of the tablet isn't that good (lets face it.) and with the current technology, it will have a hard time keeping up because the OS for this device is not that efficient (personal opinion). Anyways, it's still up to you to do it or not. Cyanogenmod has released the nightly version of Marshmallow 6.0 for this device. maybe you could check it out!! ^_^

kurogane_tw said:
Hey!
you could look at it this way, most of the people here have a hard time just ulocking the device and rooting it, not that yours is already done, might as well right. along with the proper research, your device could be one hundred times better, the stock OS of the tablet isn't that good (lets face it.) and with the current technology, it will have a hard time keeping up because the OS for this device is not that efficient (personal opinion). Anyways, it's still up to you to do it or not. Cyanogenmod has released the nightly version of Marshmallow 6.0 for this device. maybe you could check it out!! ^_^
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Yes, thanks for the encouragement.
Seems ironic that I had done lots of look-sees (not quite research, but close) about rooting devices - and I actually now have one
(it was just unexpected on this Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 (SM-T320)).
As you see I've decided to keep it rooted and am actively looking at which ROM to flash -
currently I am leaning toward the more conservative approach of doing the CM (CyanogenMod)
and rather than deciding between the snapshot CM-12.1 or the nightly CM-13.0....
perhaps I should just wait for a snapshot CM-13.0
(" and we’ll have a quality approved SNAPSHOT for CM13 sometime Jan." of course it is now Feb - so maybe soon?)
Thanks,

UnknownVT said:
perhaps I should just wait for a snapshot CM-13.0
(" and we’ll have a quality approved SNAPSHOT for CM13 sometime Jan." of course it is now Feb - so maybe soon?)
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Don't wait for snapshots - they are just forked from nightlies at a certain timepoint and aren't more stable than nightlies. Just backup and flash a nightly, and if anything you feel unstable, restore the backup and/or wait for that to get resolved. I personally don't see anything disturbing aside from wonky external SD support (which is a universal bug across all 6.0+ ROMs).
P.S. The "Thanks" button is there - use it
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AndyYan said:
Don't wait for snapshots - they are just forked from nightlies at a certain timepoint and aren't more stable than nightlies. Just backup and flash a nightly, and if anything you feel unstable, restore the backup and/or wait for that to get resolved. I personally don't see anything disturbing aside from wonky external SD support (which is a universal bug across all 6.0+ ROMs).
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Thanks again, and thanks for pointing out the ext SD card issue with 6.0+ ROMs
Does this work?
How to Use SD Card as Internal Storage on Marshmallow ...
Thanks.

UnknownVT said:
Thanks again, and thanks for pointing out the ext SD card issue with 6.0+ ROMs
Does this work?
How to Use SD Card as Internal Storage on Marshmallow ...
Thanks.
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The issue is mainly with how to use SD card as external storage (as on older Android versions), not with the new "adoptable storage" feature. That we don't have a definitive solution yet.
You might want to read through the last pages of the CM13 discussion thread in Development subforum if you're determined to get it working.
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Is there more ROMs?

I recently purchased an tab S4 just an update from my previous Samsung tablet. I was wondering is there more ROMs for this tablet or ROMs currently in development? I noticed theres like 2 ROMs for this tablet. I have a note 8 and I'm currently running deluxerom on and it, and I really enjoy the tweaks and customization I'm able to do. I was looking for a same kind of feature for my tablet. Would greatly appreciate the answers I'm looking for. Thanks!

Mkami said:
I recently purchased an tab S4 just an update from my previous Samsung tablet. I was wondering is there more ROMs for this tablet or ROMs currently in development? I noticed theres like 2 ROMs for this tablet. I have a note 8 and I'm currently running deluxerom on and it, and I really enjoy the tweaks and customization I'm able to do. I was looking for a same kind of feature for my tablet. Would greatly appreciate the answers I'm looking for. Thanks!
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Pretty much zero support. You can get a few 9.0 GSI ROMs to boot, but they all have issues. Mine has been sitting around since it was purchased while still using my old 2014 model.

veekay said:
Pretty much zero support. You can get a few 9.0 GSI ROMs to boot, but they all have issues. Mine has been sitting around since it was purchased while still using my old 2014 model.
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Aww no way!? Really? I excitingly got this tablet cause of the features and thought perhaps there would be amazing ROMs for this particular tablet, but I guess not xD What are GSI ROMs? Also as a desperate attempt would other tablet ROMs work on this s4? Thanks mate!

Mkami said:
Aww no way!? Really? I excitingly got this tablet cause of the features and thought perhaps there would be amazing ROMs for this particular tablet, but I guess not xD What are GSI ROMs? Also as a desperate attempt would other tablet ROMs work on this s4? Thanks mate!
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I had thought the same thing, but it seems the S3 is the last tablet to get real support.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/project-treble/trebleenabled-device-development
Some of the ones for 9 will work, but most features won't work too well, if at all.
You might be able to get another rom to work, I know I had no luck. Even trying ones with similar hardware, they all failed to even flash since the booting numbers are different.
Kind of have to be satisfied with Samsung, half baked custom roms or sell the thing.

Mkami said:
Aww no way!? Really? I excitingly got this tablet cause of the features and thought perhaps there would be amazing ROMs for this particular tablet, but I guess not xD What are GSI ROMs? Also as a desperate attempt would other tablet ROMs work on this s4? Thanks mate!
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First,download "Treble Check" app from playstore & read for your device...
https://www.xda-developers.com/flash-generic-system-image-project-treble-device/
(Some GSIs roms are not compatible with some devices!)

veekay said:
I had thought the same thing, but it seems the S3 is the last tablet to get real support.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/project-treble/trebleenabled-device-development
Some of the ones for 9 will work, but most features won't work too well, if at all.
You might be able to get another rom to work, I know I had no luck. Even trying ones with similar hardware, they all failed to even flash since the booting numbers are different.
Kind of have to be satisfied with Samsung, half baked custom roms or sell the thing.
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Hey Veekay I tried it and you're right unfortunately I came across the same issue as you brother
Now I'm stuck and I need help sorting my device out, was wondering if you knew this issue or could help?
When I got the stock firmware back and then when I flash TWRP with odin after going into TWRP I get 0mb as internal
so when I format and then go back into my load up the screen after SAMSUNG says "verification failed" and then reset
on the bottom. I tried other options as well. Without even wiping on TWRP the devices boots up into the setup wizard for the firmware fine
but after I wipe TWRP so I can get access to my internal drive my samsung boots into that verification reset screen. Got any clue as to how I can
resolve this issue? Thanks a bunch!

daitalos said:
First,download "Treble Check" app from playstore & read for your device...
https://www.xda-developers.com/flash-generic-system-image-project-treble-device/
(Some GSIs roms are not compatible with some devices!)
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Hey! Thanks for your reply, will this work for PIE? I can't downgrade from PIE to OREO
and I don't know if GSI even works properly on my device

Mkami said:
Hey Veekay I tried it and you're right unfortunately I came across the same issue as you brother
Now I'm stuck and I need help sorting my device out, was wondering if you knew this issue or could help?
When I got the stock firmware back and then when I flash TWRP with odin after going into TWRP I get 0mb as internal
so when I format and then go back into my load up the screen after SAMSUNG says "verification failed" and then reset
on the bottom. I tried other options as well. Without even wiping on TWRP the devices boots up into the setup wizard for the firmware fine
but after I wipe TWRP so I can get access to my internal drive my samsung boots into that verification reset screen. Got any clue as to how I can
resolve this issue? Thanks a bunch!
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Have you tried just reloading the latest stock firmware from scratch?

Yup, its unfortunate that there isn't much community support for this device. The Tab S4 is Project Treble supported and a few GSI ROMS do work. But as others have said they are unstable and not for use as a daily driver. We have a few discussion threads here talking about them.

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Have you tried just reloading the latest stock firmware from scratch?
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Would that work? If I did that I would still be able to download and install TWRP and have a root? Because of it being PIE

UndeadAnarchy said:
Yup, its unfortunate that there isn't much community support for this device. The Tab S4 is Project Treble supported and a few GSI ROMS do work. But as others have said they are unstable and not for use as a daily driver. We have a few discussion threads here talking about them.
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I am going to do more research on these projects because I really wish there was more ROMs its quite an amazing tablet but the potential with the stock ROM lacks a lot

Mkami said:
Hey! Thanks for your reply, will this work for PIE? I can't downgrade from PIE to OREO
and I don't know if GSI even works properly on my device
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Generic System Image (GSI) list :
https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/wiki/Generic-System-Image-(GSI)-list
you can try only "Android 9 Pie" official or unofficial gsi roms..
and remember ! Some GSIs roms maybe are not compatible with some devices! you can ask for your device on each thread
(for example look here): https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/issues/777
(usually this Gsi aosp 9 phh, generally works on most devices...BUT! ask first,and discuss it in the thread)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...vice-development/aosp-9-0-phh-treble-t3831915

daitalos said:
Generic System Image (GSI) list :
https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/wiki/Generic-System-Image-(GSI)-list
you can try only "Android 9 Pie" official or unofficial gsi roms..
and remember ! Some GSIs roms maybe are not compatible with some devices! you can ask for your device on each thread
(for example look here): https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/issues/777
(usually this Gsi aosp 9 phh, generally works on most devices...BUT! ask first,and discuss it in the thread)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...vice-development/aosp-9-0-phh-treble-t3831915
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Can I do this without stock ROM and only TWRP? Because having the stock ROM is disabling my twrp to function without wiping and if I wipe than my stock ROM doesn't work
Thanks!

Mkami said:
Can I do this without stock ROM and only TWRP? Because having the stock ROM is disabling my twrp to function without wiping and if I wipe than my stock ROM doesn't work
Thanks!
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Sorry,but I don't understand what do you mean " without stock rom and only twrp"...
you can install a Gsi rom, with two ways
Via TWRP, or Via Fastboot : https://www.xda-developers.com/flash-generic-system-image-project-treble-device/ (Tab S4 is a-only arm64)
for any other question, it is better to ask in the thread : https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...vice-development/aosp-9-0-phh-treble-t3831915
(read carefully in OP & you can post,every single question there for your device,and you will get certainly help from the developer or from any other user..)

Mkami said:
Can I do this without stock ROM and only TWRP? Because having the stock ROM is disabling my twrp to function without wiping and if I wipe than my stock ROM doesn't work
Thanks!
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You are going to have to just wipe it and start over from square one, unless you made a TWRP backup before starting all of this.
Download and flash the latest stock rom from recovery and then you can load twrp again.

I was looking at the possibility of using GSI's on some devices, and while they can offer new life to older devices, they're not entirely stable all the time unless you're willing to make your own changes. I know Lineage has made some excellent progress, but it's not fullproof yet and I wouldn't try it unless you're willing to not use your device as a daily use device.
I had an extra T-Mobile Revvlry which is basically a rebranded Moto g7 Play that I installed the Lineage GSI image and it works fairly well. However, this is more the exception to the rule and Moto devices, I feel, are far simpler in design vs certain Samsung devices. It also had a ton of trial and error involved for me to get it up and running properly.

Is it possible as the s4 becomes older, more people buy it and Samsung stops releasing official updates that someone will come along and create a ROM for it? Or is it more like Samsung locked the bootloaders and its close to impossible to write a ROM for it? Is it still possible to root the s4?

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Is it possible as the s4 becomes older, more people buy it and Samsung stops releasing official updates that someone will come along and create a ROM for it? Or is it more like Samsung locked the bootloaders and its close to impossible to write a ROM for it? Is it still possible to root the s4?
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Read very carefully without rush ! for " WETA Kernel + Encryption disabler " etc
especially, read the user comments carefully, and ask on the thread for any questions you have..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s4/development/recovery-twrp-3-3-0-sm-t83x-t3928278 (Pie version)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79483624&postcount=2
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s4/how-to/guide-sm-t83x-twrp-magisk-t4059227
( Newest Odin v3.14.4 is there : https://dl2018.sammobile.com/Odin3-v3.14.4.zip )

Thanks. I took a quick peak at the roms and kernels in the roms and kernels forum and they are pretty much all abandoned.
Someone did mention that the LOS 16.0 and ArrowOS GSI's work alright but are a bit buggy.

slipnslider said:
Thanks. I took a quick peak at the roms and kernels in the roms and kernels forum and they are pretty much all abandoned.
Someone did mention that the LOS 16.0 and ArrowOS GSI's work alright but are a bit buggy.
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samsung,maybe at the end of july to give the upgrade to android 10....it is very likely to happen I think
yes,all Gsi Roms still have various problems unfortunately...
my opinion is: stay to stock rom for now....you can "uninstall" many applications if you want & without root, via "samsung package disabler"(paid) from playstore, or with this way:
https://beebom.com/how-remove-bloatware-android-without-root/
also,you can Install "NiceLock Downloader Companion App" ,to add some features on your device : https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/themes/nicelock-module-download-links-module-t3923844
with this way I operate my device until now..