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[Q] Benchmark low - how to push the benchmark higher?

Hello!
So, I have a DHD with the Revolution HD ROM (2.0.8) and the Buzz Sense kernel. I have locked the CPU to min/max 1516MHz Perf. scaling and, upon running the AnTutu System Review 1.2("System Benchmark" under Market) I get a score of 1879.
Yet in the Rankings I see that the #2 device is a DHD with 2.2 @1516MHz with a whopping score of 2774!!!!!
So, how could I reach those heights? The only thing I can think of is the slow SD card that came with the mobile (read/write scores: 34/117), but other than that what could be holding me back?
Cheers
T

I have reached pretty high scores while testing, but then the overall rom smoothness has pretty much sucked. It is normal that synthetic benchmarks give lower results when you use a custom rom, the optimizations that ensure general smoothness and usability cause it. One big reason is CPU scheduling, in custom rom (custom kernel) cpu time is divided for each task in a different way, thus reducing the overall benchmark score.

jkoljo said:
I have reached pretty high scores while testing, but then the overall rom smoothness has pretty much sucked. It is normal that synthetic benchmarks give lower results when you use a custom rom, the optimizations that ensure general smoothness and usability cause it. One big reason is CPU scheduling, in custom rom (custom kernel) cpu time is divided for each task in a different way, thus reducing the overall benchmark score.
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Aha... but then this means that this or the other ROM do not let a specific app (say, a heavy 3D game) take the phone to its full potential...

Incorrect, it is just the synthetic benchmark that suffers. Games will run fine, faster than stock.

Jkoljo's right.The overall system speed is much better,performance is better,but it sucks a little in benchmarks.If you are so desperate to see high benchmark scores(I was once too! )try kamma's 1.4 kernel.Quadrant 3200.Need I say more?

tolis626 said:
Jkoljo's right.The overall system speed is much better,performance is better,but it sucks a little in benchmarks.If you are so desperate to see high benchmark scores(I was once too! )try kamma's 1.4 kernel.Quadrant 3200.Need I say more?
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Really? 3200? Wow. Just out of curiosity, what scores are you getting with other kernels?
Well, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter - I haven't seen an app or game that runs slow or choppy or whatever. It's just for the heck of it

krakout said:
Really? 3200? Wow. Just out of curiosity, what scores are you getting with other kernels?
Well, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter - I haven't seen an app or game that runs slow or choppy or whatever. It's just for the heck of it
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Oh yeah,I know what tou mean!
Anyway,with Lee's and Apache's kernels I get about 2500-2600 in Quadrant.CPU clocked all the way up to 1.5 GHz of course!

[discussion] making the defy faster and smoother

Hello all.
I'm trying to get the most of my defy.
Currently using cyanogenmod 7, over clocked to 1.2ghz.
I have now started using the v6 supercharger script as hoping its not placebo but seems to be working a lot better. Used option 9.
Does anyone else use the v6 script and what option did you go for?
Also do you have any other tweeks for making the defy smoother or faster?
Have uploaded a screenshot of my benchmark.
V6 original thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276

I'm using the latest V6 RC 3.2, with option 6 (ledded) (now I'm testing option 7), and option 13 (bulitproof launcher). I installed nitro lag nullifier. I also use kak script, and 3G turbocharge script. Overall it has big improvement, my defy is much faster and more responsive. I have only a little lag in scrolling the launcher when I use live wallpaper, btw I'm using blur launcher, and MS2Ginger 2.1 rom, overclocked to 1.2 Ghz. My scores are around 2700 - 2800.

Thanks a few things to look up.
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I'm just using CM7 with ADW launcher, the score varies from 2500 to 2940...after 4 times of benching.
Also OCed to 1.2ghz
What is V6?

nameite said:
I'm just using CM7 with ADW launcher, the score varies from 2500 to 2940...after 4 times of benching.
Also OCed to 1.2ghz
What is V6?
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copied from the v6 post
What's it do?
It makes your phone FAST... super snappy with better multitasking!
It rearranges and fixes the OOM Groupings and Priorites and lowmemorykiller values.
So basically, it's a COMPLETE MEMORY MANAGEMENT FIX!
It's the ONLY one of it's kind
NO LAUNCHER REDRAWS, faster than ever, multitasking is better... why?
Because it works with the lowmemorykiller and letting it work the way it's meant to work.
Also, because of the rearrangement, it works the same on all roms!
The problem with using minfree tweakers like AMM or AKMO is that it doesn't work the same on all roms.
Secondary apps may be in slot 3 on some roms but in slot 5 in others!
That's why you hear people comment "I tried AKMO but it didn't do anything..."
Most likely it didn't do anything because the apps weren't sitting where they were expected to be.
So fasten your seat belts and enjoy the ride!

Super Charge... Makes it impossible to kill other apps & dats the downfall
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Try also thunderbolt's script... much better than super charger v6 to me & doesn't interfere with cm7 killing app function, of long press on back button
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Anyone still using this script or the thunderbolt script on Cm.7.1.0-11-defy?
I'm trying to figure out if people see a noticeable improvement before taking the leap myself. Better synthetic scores don't really matter to me.

I may be interested too, what are the downsides of these, and is there a way of undoing it?
Sent from my 1Ghz CM7 + CM9 Defy

crakeron said:
I may be interested too, what are the downsides of these, and is there a way of undoing it?
Sent from my 1Ghz CM7 + CM9 Defy
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YEs, there is an option on the V6 to Undo the changes.

plz tell me how to install
plz tell me how to install

zorofroozo said:
Anyone still using this script or the thunderbolt script on Cm.7.1.0-11-defy?
I'm trying to figure out if people see a noticeable improvement before taking the leap myself. Better synthetic scores don't really matter to me.
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I didn't use it for a long time. But used it on a recent nightly and forgot how much it changed the phone.
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I've been using it to, and the phone does feel smoother. The nitro lagg nullier makes the difference on my defy.
(I used it in conjunction with the multitasking setting if i'm not mistaken)

It's buttery smooth on Option 6 - "Balanced."

Minimal modded to my defy seeing it was my everyday phone. Now that I have the defy+ I'm going hands in the the defy been reading and reading now I would like input from other users.
So.....
What modes are best for the defy?
Make it faster, responsive with no lags or glitches.
I'm on cm 7.2 froyo kernel thinking bout upgrading to gb kernel. Any suggestions?

kidrobot52 said:
Minimal modded to my defy seeing it was my everyday phone. Now that I have the defy+ I'm going hands in the the defy been reading and reading now I would like input from other users.
So.....
What modes are best for the defy?
Make it faster, responsive with no lags or glitches.
I'm on cm 7.2 froyo kernel thinking bout upgrading to gb kernel. Any suggestions?
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Well I will always suggest supercharger script and also kak script as it gives me great boost and reduces lag a lot.
Sent from my ICS Defy

As i have been chasing the holy grail in my Defy+ for the last weeks, i have been thru some settings and my own observation around the SuperCharger is that it totally screwed up atleast my already overclocked Defy+. I was running scores around 2400-2500 in Quadrant and after installing SC it really felt slow and a new test in Quadrant really proved what i have been feeling, the score was around 1800. Notice then that my first setting in SC was a fullblown 1000bhp setting (dont remember what the highest number is), so i thought i had shot myself in the foot and overloaded things, tuned it down to a 512bhp settings (somewhere in the middle) and did a new test, still was the same score in Quadrant. After some anger management i uninstalled it and ran a new Quadrant test, this time i scored 2200. I dont know if i managed to screw anything up in SC but thats my 2 cents of an observation.

Stock MIUI straight out of the archive gave me 26000 - 25000 on quadrant...
after installing all of my guff it naturally got lower scores, but - speed doesn't necessarily equate to smoothness...
I then went to linpack.apk which allows you to compare your scores against, well - your scores...
As I turned up the OC the ph got quicker - but not smoother (if you get my drift)...
So, on my personalized MIUI I pasted in Juwe11's ram script & Samsungs Loopysmoothness script... they helped with the smoothness I was after... (+enabling JIT in SetSvel - makes a diff)...
Now I'm running WajKIUI hybrid... battery seems to drain quicker, but it's silky smooth... speed is similar to MIUI OC'ed @ 1.2GHz...

King_Rat said:
Stock MIUI straight out of the archive gave me 26000 - 25000 on quadrant...
after installing all of my guff it naturally got lower scores, but - speed doesn't necessarily equate to smoothness...
I then went to linpack.apk which allows you to compare your scores against, well - your scores...
As I turned up the OC the ph got quicker - but not smoother (if you get my drift)...
So, on my personalized MIUI I pasted in Juwe11's ram script & Samsungs Loopysmoothness script... they helped with the smoothness I was after... (+enabling JIT in SetSvel - makes a diff)...
Now I'm running WajKIUI hybrid... battery seems to drain quicker, but it's silky smooth... speed is similar to MIUI OC'ed @ 1.2GHz...
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That must be one hell of a Defy u got there if u managed to score around 25,000 points in
Quadrant
For some reason the defy phones in some way seems to score higher than the +, god knows why.
I tried to run a Sonic the hedgehog game with my best settings it ran really smooth and the handling seemed better than ever. But more smoothness never hurt as long as it doesnt decrease speed. I rather run like that and get a better battery
Do u know if those scripts work on the +?

FlashTec80 said:
That must be one hell of a Defy u got there if u managed to score around 25,000 points in
Quadrant
For some reason the defy phones in some way seems to score higher than the +, god knows why.
I tried to run a Sonic the hedgehog game with my best settings it ran really smooth and the handling seemed better than ever. But more smoothness never hurt as long as it doesnt decrease speed. I rather run like that and get a better battery
Do u know if those scripts work on the +?
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Which Sonic game ?
Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode 1 ?
Herpderp Defy.

My Thoughts On Android 4.0.4 (GSM) GNexus

So as a person who has ranted on this board before on how ****ty 4.0.2 was, I just wanted to give my thoughts on 4.0.4
The main point I want to make is that this update is really really really good!
Good Points:
-WAY Smoother overall.
-Browser Is WAY smoother and much better at rendering pages properly (Big thing for me since I constantly use the browser throughout my day).
-I don't think chrome is even necessary at this point. They will probably just merge the two.
-Camera seems much better, although my not a huge photo guy.
-Battery life is incredible! On 4.0.2 I would barely make it till the end of my day (6pm-9pm). Right now I still have 68% left. My results aren't the norm since, I rarely use the phone for long periods of times. But the difference is definitely noticeable in my daily useage.
-Switching between 3G/4G seems much better now. Everything tends load quicker now. (Twitter, browser, pulse, etc.)
There are other good points, but these are what most matter to me.
Bad Points:
-Still a slight lag between pushing multitask button and the apps showing up. But it is much improved over 4.0.2
-Some slight lag when opening app-drawer (transition is not smooth, but not bad either) However in app-drawer everything is smooth
-Minor gripe that might only bother me, is that the calender widget now shows the colored squares that represent different calendars in the middle of the box for each event, I thought it looked much better when it was smaller and in the top left corner.
There might be others, but these are what really bug me.
So yea, I think this is great update and this how the nexus should have launched.
Btw I am curious about what SMP PREEMPT Mar 13 means under kernel version?
Thanks for taking the time to read this. =)

In the secret menu (you can access dialing *#*#4636#*#*, in the first section) It is selected 'WCDMA Preferrer' or GSM/CDMA Auto (PRL)?

Mrbigshot said:
-Some slight lag when opening app-drawer (transition is not smooth, but not bad either) However in app-drawer everything is smooth
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Are you using a live wallpaper? I noticed this too until I switched to a static wallpaper.
My main favorite of the update is auto-brightness actually works now, and has nice transitions when increasing/decreasing the brightness.
No native mounting of USB OTG storage yet though

taylerdurden said:
In the secret menu (you can access dialing *#*#4636#*#*, in the first section) It is selected 'WCDMA Preferrer' or GSM/CDMA Auto (PRL)?
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Wow, I did not even know about this menu. Mine has WCDMA Preferrer, should I change this to GSM? I am on T-Mobile

catpunt said:
Are you using a live wallpaper? I noticed this too until I switched to a static wallpaper.
My main favorite of the update is auto-brightness actually works now, and has nice transitions when increasing/decreasing the brightness.
No native mounting of USB OTG storage yet though
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Thanks! You were right on, now the transition is really smooth after I switched to static wallpaper. Hopefully they can fix the problem with live wallpapers down the line and hopefully it is not a GPU limitation.

4.0.4 fixed the Wi-Fi drop out problem with some routers.
This's a really big improvement.

My Bluetooth works now .on 4.0.2 yakju it didnt

Mrbigshot said:
Wow, I did not even know about this menu. Mine has WCDMA Preferrer, should I change this to GSM? I am on T-Mobile
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Keep it on default. (Wcdma prefered)

Multitouch bug has gone
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

Mrbigshot said:
Thanks! You were right on, now the transition is really smooth after I switched to static wallpaper. Hopefully they can fix the problem with live wallpapers down the line and hopefully it is not a GPU limitation.
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GPU limitation I'd say, same GPU that's in the Nexus S.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

gonucks said:
GPU limitation I'd say, same GPU that's in the Nexus S.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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Not the same GPU.
It has been beefed up considerably.
Nexus S GPU runs slower and is fed by single channel ram.

gonucks said:
GPU limitation I'd say, same GPU that's in the Nexus S.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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Same, but different.
Galaxy Nexus has an overclocked version.....also its being fed by dual-channel memory now. It's on average 100% faster in GL benchmark off-screen tests. Though dual-core CPU plays a bit of a role but GL benchmark is mainly GPU. So yea on average you can expect the Galaxy Nexus SGX540 to be about 100% faster than the Nexus S SGX540 or about double the GPU performance.
Of course, it still pales in comparison to SGX544mp2 and Mali-400
But I doubt it's GPU limitation holding back live wallpapers.....more like live-wallpapers not being optimized. I'd prefer to run a black background or something anyway to save battery....live wallpapers were fun for a little bit, but got boring fast.
You can check it out on anandtech
Edit: ^^ beat to post by 2 minutes haha

Is our gpu really that much slower than mali though? I thought i saw one particular benchmark between the two like 8 Mflops vs 5 Mflops...seems same ballpark to me. Just a lot more pixels to push in the HD screen
Over in the G note forum a thread exists claiming their mali gpu is too weak for their screen and that they experience stutters and lag. Makes me not feel so bad having our current gpu.

RogerPodacter said:
Is our gpu really that much slower than mali though? I thought i saw one particular benchmark between the two like 8 Mflops vs 5 Mflops...seems same ballpark to me. Just a lot more pixels to push in the HD screen
Over in the G note forum a thread exists claiming their mali gpu is too weak for their screen and that they experience stutters and lag. Makes me not feel so bad having our current gpu.
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Haha, really?

One thing that I am happy about is that on the lockscreen when you go to camera it goes straight into the camera rather than going to the homescreen AND THEN going into the camera app.

Why is panorama square? Is it just happening on my end? Started with 4.0.2 it's been square not rectangular shape.

RogerPodacter said:
Is our gpu really that much slower than mali though? I thought i saw one particular benchmark between the two like 8 Mflops vs 5 Mflops...seems same ballpark to me. Just a lot more pixels to push in the HD screen
Over in the G note forum a thread exists claiming their mali gpu is too weak for their screen and that they experience stutters and lag. Makes me not feel so bad having our current gpu.
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It's slower....around 50% slower than the Mali-400. But it's definitely not too weak.
There are a lot of things to account for.......the TI OMAP has HD coding capabilities which help it display things to the 1280x720 screen the Galaxy Nexus has much much easier and faster while being less "performance hungry" it's a pro of the TI OMAP that very few people take into account....Exynos can hold its ground though. In general though, the TI OMAP is a bit faster CPU wise than the Exynos, they trade blow really.
Nothing we use our phones for are really even taxing the GPU/CPU. Yea a few games here and there, but the Nexus can run them all fine. Android in general isn't really "Great" for playing games compared to iOS at leeast because of fragmentation etc...but it's great to use it for daily use and it does it's job.
Maybe when we start doing some crazy video/photo editing on smartphones.....CPU/GPU will play a much larger role. The biggest leap for android was probably single to dual-core and now, things aren't as big of a leap in general user experience performance.

So what custom ROM is the OP running? As he mentioned smoother 3G/4G switching...

Scottatron said:
So what custom ROM is the OP running? As he mentioned smoother 3G/4G switching...
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He's talking about the stock 4.0.4 OTA.

I think most people are getting a little overexcited about the "smoothness".
In my experience, 4.0.4 is not really "WAY SMOOTHER". I personally can't tell the difference and I pay a lot of attention to stuff like smooth transitions, scrolling, delays, multitasking, ...
The battery life is definitely improved though. I get a lot more "screen" and a lot less "android os".

[Q] CPU/GPU Governers and I/O Schedulers

Hey guys, just wondering if anyone can help me or point me in the right direction of info to help me choose what's best for my phone....
I'm running kitslim evo5 and doomkernel...
I've got trickstermod installed and have my setup as follows:
Read ahead buffer - 512
Scheduler - fiops
CPU Governer - smartassv2
GPU Governer - msm-adreno-tz
Max freq - 450
My main questions are based around me moving from lagfree to smartassv2 my phone seems to run quite warm but battery is still good??
Also what's good to do with my read ahead buffer etc??
I don't game ever, infact I only use my phone for calls, texts, music and web browsing.
Would I benefit from using zRAM?
I've got trickstermod on "eco mode".
Also my CPU clock speeds and voltage are standard.
Can ANYONE give me some realistic figures to apply to minimise resource usage, power consumption and increase battery life?
When I had my Xperia Ray I had it underclocked quite a bit running gingerbread (I think I was running it at 650mhz!) but it was an absolute ROCKET and underclocking that low saved quite a bit on heat and definitely helped battery without me noticing any performance loss. **I couldn't run the CPU that low on jelly bean at all though it would lag like hell and stutter at the most basic of tasks like opening the app drawer**
I'm hoping to achieve something like this with this phone, or is it out of the question as I've got 4cores and am running kitkat?
Sorry for the essay but just trying to get across all my info and explain as when I try researching it most people give the response "everyone's phone needs different values... It depends how youre using it blah blah"
ANY help/input would be greatly appreciated and met with +1's :good:

mindyabiznis said:
most people give the response "everyone's phone needs different values... It depends how youre using it blah blah"
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That's essentially what it boils down to, it's your Phone so you need to play about with it until you find your perfect setup.

XperienceD said:
That's essentially what it boils down to, it's your Phone so you need to play about with it until you find your perfect setup.
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Yeah i was just hoping to get a ball park or rough idea of values that i could start from, assuming that there is at least a few other people trying to do this already

mindyabiznis said:
ANY help/input would be greatly appreciated and met with +1's :good:
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There's a great guide here, which although was written for the Evo, it does list a lot of the governours and schedulers that the Sony has built in.

Didgesteve said:
There's a great guide here, which although was written for the Evo, it does list a lot of the governours and schedulers that the Sony has built in.
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thanks Didgesteve i have read a few webpages like that :good:
At the minute ive brought my GPU down 2 steps so running at 320 and ive got my CPU clocked at 1.4 and the governer on lagfree as it seems to keep the phone temperatures down, smartassv2 definitely makes the phone (well, THIS phone) run hot
im thinkin that lagfree probably isnt as power saving as i need though, also i turned off ECO mode as this is just for 2 cores apparently.
kept my i/o scheduler as fiops as it seems to be the newest and best? lol i dont really know i could be gettin this all wrong.
had my phone clocked at 900mhz yesterday and noticed a slight drop in performance but for the most part it ran fine:laugh: was a little laggy whilst listening to music and web browsing so turned it up to 1.4, and it runs fluidly :fingers-crossed:

Anyone interested in an Over clocked kernel or rom?

I've compiled Resurrection Remix with over clocked CPU (@2.2ghz) and GPU (@800mhz) and it's not that much of an improvement. I'd say PUBG runs little better now and some improvement in benchmarks. Well, I wasn't expecting miracles either but let me know if anyone wants an over clocked ROM or kernel. I am trying to add exfat support (I'd be happy if any devs can help me with that) as many user wants but I'm getting nowhere for now.

I can even take it to next level with CPU @2.4ghz and GPU @850mhz but I think that would be overkill.

I'm interested
How is the battery life?

Pitagoras2000 said:
I'm interested
How is the battery life?
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I think it's little less than the stock ROM but now it depletes faster while gaming (as gaming pushes all cores to max).

Manish355 said:
I think it's little less than the stock ROM but now it depletes faster while gaming (as gaming pushes all cores to max).
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Nice. That kernel would be great to VR

Well , good idea is to make only OC kernel and then setup it via kerenel audiutor eg. -- OC @ gpu would be nice because it is weakest part of MZP . I've just made benchmark on stock oreo antutu 7.1.3 = 75716 pts. while on latest Cosmos 3.2 rom result was 81703 pts.

i would be interested in a undervolting one

JonasVFC said:
i would be interested in a undervolting one
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Yeah, that would be interested. I was playing wirh that, I think it was, Atrix time... Don't expect miracles but could add a bit to battery life. And a bit more in freezing the phone or crashing the apps
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Zeljko1234 said:
Yeah, that would be interested. I was playing wirh that, I think it was, Atrix time... Don't expect miracles but could add a bit to battery life. And a bit more in freezing the phone or crashing the apps
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Under volting is not a good idea, it creates a lot of issues. To increase battery life use smart pixels, build prop tweaks and also amplify and greenify. However for screen on time, lowering resolution and smart pixels are best options.

sebx_g1 said:
Well , good idea is to make only OC kernel and then setup it via kerenel audiutor eg. -- OC @ gpu would be nice because it is weakest part of MZP . I've just made benchmark on stock oreo antutu 7.1.3 = 75716 pts. while on latest Cosmos 3.2 rom result was 81703 pts.
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Yeah, nice idea
I think stock runs on 8.0 while Cosmos on 8.1 so that might've improved it somewhat,
I wish if there was some tweak to OC GPU of normal ROM.

Manish355 said:
I've compiled Resurrection Remix with over clocked CPU (@2.2ghz) and GPU (@800mhz) and it's not that much of an improvement. I'd say PUBG runs little better now and some improvement in benchmarks. Well, I wasn't expecting miracles either but let me know if anyone wants an over clocked ROM or kernel. I am trying to add exfat support (I'd be happy if any devs can help me with that) as many user wants but I'm getting nowhere for now.
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I think a kernel with overclocking possibilities would be nice. In fact, what I would really love was to see a port of Elemental X or Blu Spark kernels.