..Or Charging rate be reduced and/or controlled. By a custom kernel Or anything? Please Suggest.
Thank You
How about just using the regular not fast charger with strength (A) that you prefer? With stock 2A rated charger charging takes 3h & cuple of minutes (if you don't use the phone). Guess even 1A charger should be sufficient for charging it over night but it will take about 6h for full recharge.
Im on Resurrection remix as we know RR based on Lineage
and support QC 3.0 indeed
Thanks, brought a 1.5A charger. To see how much time it takes. For disabling it permanently for a Rom, there is no way?
It's possible in kernel & not by user but opposite to you most blocks around hire will actually want to have it enabled. So just using preferred charger actually best fits all, besides slow ones are really cheap this day's & most people have them from their older phones.
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Ok, so I have an AT&T SIII running AOKP (was on CM 10, waiting for a bit better 10.1 stability in the Bluetooth department). I just found out how awesome the PS3's Dualshock 3 controller is for gaming on android. I'm considering purchasing a GameKlip for it.
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I know that the SIII's charging rate is capped somewhere between 750-1000 mA. I did some searching here on XDA, and it seems that buying a 2A charger wont charge the phone any faster because the charge rate is capped by the phone. I get that. My problem is that my phone will discharge 10% or more per hour on AC power (OC'd, brightness up, PS3 controller) while I'm gaming. I also understand that concept.
My question is: If I use a 2A charger, will the potential excess power prevent the phone from discharging while gaming, or will it be irrelevant? I assume the former.
While everyone is on the same topic, what is the highest charging rate that OEM's typically allow? Does say, HTC or Motorola tend to have higher rates? I'm not against switching to another phone (or carrier if I have to) if it means no discharging while gaming. The way it sits, if my battery is already low from using it during the day, and I come home from work to play some games, the battery will just die even though it's plugged in. Seems counter-intuitive to me. Other than this issue, I have my battery usage down to a SCIENCE, and I usually have idle drain less than 1%/hour while on WiFi with MINIMAL wakelocks. I think because of that, this drainage thing really drives me nuts!
What do you guys think?
Thanks!
- And yes, the poll question assumes you are on AC power.
rytymu said:
Ok, so I have an AT&T SIII running AOKP (was on CM 10, waiting for a bit better 10.1 stability in the Bluetooth department). I just found out how awesome the PS3's Dualshock 3 controller is for gaming on android. I'm considering purchasing a GameKlip for it.
-Anyway-
I know that the SIII's charging rate is capped somewhere between 750-1000 mA. I did some searching here on XDA, and it seems that buying a 2A charger wont charge the phone any faster because the charge rate is capped by the phone. I get that. My problem is that my phone will discharge 10% or more per hour (OC'd, brightness up, PS3 controller) while I'm gaming. I also understand that concept.
My question is: If I use a 2A charger, will the potential excess power prevent the phone from discharging while gaming, or will it be irrelevant? I assume the former.
While everyone is on the same topic, what is the highest charging rate that OEM's typically allow? Does say, HTC or Motorola tend to have higher rates? I'm not against switching to another phone (or carrier if I have to) if it means no discharging while gaming. The way it sits, if my battery is already low from using it during the day, and I come home from work to play some games, the battery will just die even though it's plugged in. Seems counter-intuitive to me. Other than this issue, I have my battery usage down to a SCIENCE, and I usually have idle drain less than 1%/hour while on WiFi with MINIMAL wakelocks. I think because of that, this drainage thing really drives me nuts!
What do you guys think?
Thanks!
- And yes, the poll question assumes you are on AC power.
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Honestly, I've been using a 2A Charger since i purchased my phone three months ago. Im using the one from the nexus 7, but to answer your question.
I've noticed no difference in discharging using the 1A vs the 2A, the only factor that can that is your kernel and rom.
Since i've switch to a ktoonz kernel my battery life is improved by 75%. (using custom settings)
Also can i suggest possibly looking at a extended battery pack? I have both the gorilla gadgets and the hyperion. Both are amazing i was able to get 3 days on it, under heavy gaming 1.5 days.
Im using only a 3150maH battery right now, as i stopped gaming on my phone, bought a sick computer.
Funnily enough, I also use a DualShock 3 with my device on occasion, normally while on AC power. I've never noticed any power dips, but that may be because I'm not particularly pushing the device to its limits in the process.
Anyway, I think the meat of the matter is this: does the phone limit the amount of current entering via the micro-USB port (which is then split between battery charging and normal device usage), or does it limit the amount of current going into the battery? If it's the latter (which I'd consider more likely, given that the micro-USB port is expected to handle at least 1.8A), then you'll notice a benefit from using a more powerful charger under the circumstances. I don't actually know if that's the case, though.
Does your kernel support quick-charge? I don't know the science behind it, but it allows me to charge my phone from dead to 100% in less than half the time it normally takes.
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Does your kernel support quick-charge? I don't know the science behind it, but it allows me to charge my phone from dead to 100% in less than half the time it normally takes.
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Yes it does, but I thought fast charging only makes USB charging the same rate as AC charging (plus I heard it can permanently damage the USB interface)... Therefore my understanding is that the hardware charge cap still applies.
So I tried a Motorola turbo charger which has QC2.0 capability on my HTC one m8.
Got a full charge in 2hrs 10 min.
That sums it up, we don't have the technology enabled to save the battery from deteriorating.
I'm on stock UK Rom.
Cheers.
The question is how fast did it get to 70% from dead, the charger slows down as it gets closer and closer to full.....
Here are some screen shots. Tells you how fast it was charging.
Sounds the same as the stock charger. The phone will only draw as much current as it's made to draw. More powerful chargers won't change that. ?
Yeah, people said it supports qc1.0 but it is not.
muayyadf1 said:
So I tried a Motorola turbo charger which has QC2.0 capability on my HTC one m8.
Got a full charge in 2hrs 10 min.
That sums it up, we don't have the technology enabled to save the battery from deteriorating.
I'm on stock UK Rom.
Cheers.
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HTC has yet to enable quick change 2.0 on stock roms, so unless you install a custom Rom/kernel you won't see any difference over the stock charger. And I'm not even convinced that they don't need a firmware update too.
Sent from my HTC One_M8
Update
It seems to work if battery temperature is 35 ℃ or less. I was gaining two percent per minute when battery was cold. Could be just thermal efficiency though.
Hello everybody,
I'm planning a quite long road trip in some days, and noticed recently that my battery drains "quickly" using the GPS (with Sygic app) when the phone is plugged.
The route will be something around 12h, and I can clearly see that the phone will not stand this long (tried using Sygic in simulation mode).
It happens also when using some apps like i-display, the phone won't last forever when plugged.
Is there any thing I can do to prevent this drain, like disabling/closing apps (which ones / how to detect ? method ? any tools ?), or even changing my rom (don't know if the rom can be the cause).
I've also seen this post : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512421 . Can it be related ?
I'm running on Resurrection Remix 5.5.7
For closing apps, I tried force closing facebook/twitter... in the application setting, but they always reappear.
Thanks for help.
you can turn off screen and set it to give voice guide or turn off screen on long, straight part of the trip.
usb charger in car is about 5 times less powerful than standard wall charger.
the only thing you can do is get car inverter to plug normal charger
I'm pretty sure that I did not have this issue when I was using my phone as a GPS a while ago, when I had a Samsung based rom (dito note).
But it sounds strange that my current rom drains more than the one with all Samsung additions, no ? (Even though I noticed a small loss in battery life ... should I test an other rom ?)
Or maybe the battery is getting old ?
I did my "simulation" test while plugged in a USB port of my desktop, how does it compare to a car charger ?
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Even I get less power, even while using a wall charger on a cm ROM, to the extent that the phone discharges when if is plugged in even at 30% brightness. This is even after using Agni kernel (and without also). I downloaded a free app from the play store "galaxy charging current" from the play store and the app helped me figure out that I get different charging rates with charger and cable combinations. But even then the best I have been able to get is 1400 ma( that too not consistently) after using a new cable. Maybe the charging port itself has become faulty due to accumulation of carbon(don't know to to clean it without risk of damaging it!)
If it helps, I can confirm that this also happens on a full stock 4.4.2 Samsung ROM. On a 1A output, with 100% brightness, GPS and Data Connection, the battery continues to drain instead of charge. Haven't tried with only 30% brightness and GPS, though.
I did a quick test this evening with a new rom : android 4.4.4 Eclipse V4 , not installed many apps, had Sygic running a simulation, gps active and no data or wifi (like I would probably do while driving), charging on the usb front port of my desktop :no battery loss, the battery level fluctuated between 77 an 78% for 4 hours ... seems good.
I still try to understand where this difference comes from : touchwizz rom that better handles the stylus digitizer ? Android 4.x consumes less power ? Because I had less apps (so maybe less background apps) ? Samsung touchwizz has less power consumption then google now / cyanogen trebuchet ?
I like the idea to have android 5.x (latest version an feature), but this difference in battery time disappoints me a bit.
I'm no expert, but I suppose it all comes down to ROM optimisation. After all, you are comparing something made by a little team (or even by a single developer!) to something made by one of largest (if not the largest) smartphone makers! And I know that it is dissapointing to go from 6,5 hours screen on time (on stock) to 4 hours, but we can't have them all, right?
I totally agree with the point, but in fact, small team already do great jobs compared to the smartphones makers, just look at all the custom TW roms for the Note 2 : tweak, better battery, galaxy note 3&4 and s 4&5 features ...
What I don't understand, is why a rom like this seems to drain more energy than an android 5.x "stock" rom (shouldn't android 5.x have a better battery life btw, compared to 4.x ?).
Get a decent charger and a good cable. 2A charger is the minimum, and forget about cheap Chinese cables.
I had the same issues with both cheap chargers and expensive Nokia "2.1A" car charger (which I guess was no more than 1A in reality). Now I installed this in my car and forgot about these issues:
"DC 9V-40V 4 USB port 12 24V to 5V mobile phone pad Step Down DC 5V 5A Car Charger Power Supply" on Aliexpress (sorry, cant post links)
Busted my Moto, had to fall back to my trusty E980...
I can't use CM based ROMs because I rely heavily on BT and camera and both are a bit wonky in CM...
I've got a setup right now that I'm happy with (Henry Pham's excellent ROM) + Xposed, but it still charges pretty slow. I'm using a powerful charger- an Aukey 40W 8AMP (2.4a per port) and decent USB cables... my LG still takes far longer than my other devices to charge.
So, is there a 5.0.x ROM that does NOT charge super slow? Or is there a kernel or patch I don't know about?
You might have to enable quick charging. In my SlimLP the option is in Kernel Adiutor app, in battery settings. Before that, the phone could take only 500mA, but with that enabled - 1500mA.
How old is your battery? That can contribute...
this rom charges to fast, the faster one i've knew but the battery drains as fast as charges, is there a fix for this problem?
@elmanolette
Yes, there is.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-extreme-battery-life-t3095884
Check that thread and follow their recommendations. You surely will be surprised.
Don't forget t consider buying a new battery. The zero lemon's ones are really good.
Hey guys,
I have recently purchased xiaomi mi 6 and this is my first quick charge phone so something got me worried. My battery charging speed seems to be too fast for me. Although I don't think temperatures are worrying however I'm conserned regarding long term effects.
I have xiaomi mi 6 6gb ram 128gb storage ceramic edition model.
These are pictures taken from battery app from playstore and image of my charger.
If anyone have some advise about this it would be great.
My greatest consern is that charging speed doesn't seem to diminish as charge is getting to 90% after it hits 90% it slows down dramatically. But from what I know it should change charging speed between 60 and 70 percent to little slower then from 0 to 60.
Is this damaging battery?
Screenshots below.
Thank you.
Totally fine. Its QC 3.0. Imagine this: QC4+ charges ~50-60% in under 15 minutes.
Oh such a releaf. Thank for replying.
Anyone got idea if this has any at all negative effect to battery?
No, higher battery voltage - slower charge, you would damage your battery in few weeks without this slow down.
Also avoid heavy load of phone when charging
ninokotur said:
Oh such a releaf. Thank for replying.
Anyone got idea if this has any at all negative effect to battery?
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Would they put a fast charger in the box if the phone couldn't handle it? Nah probably not. Maybe Apple would......
Should you worry if you use the stock charger or a certified QC 3.0 charger? Definitely not its fine.
Are you still worried?: use a non QC 3.0 charger like 1.5 amp.
I use my old Sony one and it works equally well.
I find a slower charger gives slightly longer SOT.
The fast charger is just useful if I need power quickly.
Thanks guys