The XA is getting the Nougat update. Doesn't the M5 have the same cpu/gpu?
I don't know. It's kind of like Sony forgot about the M5
Looking at this forum it's like everyone has forgotten the M5.
Which is a pity, it's a great phone.
Overall the M5 has better specs and hardware, and a different GPU to the XA.
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Looking at this forum it's like everyone has forgotten the M5.
Which is a pity, it's a great phone.
Overall the M5 has better specs and hardware, and a different GPU to the XA.
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Yes so true
Sony abadon their devices
It's seems like Sony deliberately forgot our devices, forcing us to buy new models.
That's sad, because the device is relatively new and has a hardware good enough to receive the update.
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Looking at this forum it's like everyone has forgotten the M5.
Which is a pity, it's a great phone.
Overall the M5 has better specs and hardware, and a different GPU to the XA.
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The xa is a much better device bar the camera unless it's a xa ultra then it's completely a better device.
aidy.lucas said:
The xa is a much better device bar the camera unless it's a xa ultra then it's completely a better device.
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ummmmmm...... How?
The only thing that may be better - in use - is the edge-to-edge curved screen on the XA. But the M5 hardware and specs are superior to the XA.
The XA Ultra is irrelevant.
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Hi all..
So im thinking of getting the Arc.. (have the x10). Whats the actual big difference in terms of the two phones ? From what i see online they are very similar.
X10 Weighs more and doesn't have a HDMI port lol
Arc looks better (my opinion of course)
Jinx13 said:
X10 Weighs more and doesn't have a HDMI port lol
Arc looks better (my opinion of course)
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Well I agree on that... Just trying to decide what phone to get my contracts due for a upgrade ...
Again my personal opinion but get the Arc it's a fantastic phone
First and foremost, the firmware. Android Gingerbread is way faster than Froyo. Much much more than stock x10 which is Eclair.
Second, the processor. Although at same speed of 1Ghz, arc processor is faster still. Much like an intel pentium 4 vs. Core at same clock speed. And with 45nm process, it should require less battery.
Ram. It has more so it should run pretty much more than x10.
Exmor camera, hdmi, bravia lcd, etc, etc..
If you have an x10 I would say wait for a dual core SE. The Arc is too similar to the X10 in terms of hardware. Ofcourse the camera and screen are way better, but the rest of it is more or less the same
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If you have an x10 I would say wait for a dual core SE. The Arc is too similar to the X10 in terms of hardware. Ofcourse the camera and screen are way better, but the rest of it is more or less the same
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You are correct as far as hardware goes, but the camera and screen are not just improved, IMHO it is a big improvement.
The whole phone just seems better. My only gripe is the stupidly slippery battery cover, but I have a case on the way lol
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If you've got and love your X10, you'll love the Arc even more! The Arcs battery cover is a tad slippery as LT has mentioned, but just buy one of THESE which has the same feel and texture as the X10's battery cover and your phone will be complete.
Moving from X10i to Arc was fantastic ... The performance & sleekness of the phone is beyond just hardware specs. It's just a big improvement from the X10i
Thanks for the replies i will probably get it then, end of the month.
Arc is a huge upgrade to the X10, but X10 is really easy to install custom stuff onto while Arc's bootloader still hasn't been unlocked
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Arc is a huge upgrade to the X10, but X10 is really easy to install custom stuff onto while Arc's bootloader still hasn't been unlocked
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You're behind the times mate. We've been able to unlock, as well as relock, the bootloader of the arc for some time now thanks to the geniuses here at XDA. Moreover, custom ROMs are being developed for it.
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You're behind the times mate. We've been able to unlock, as well as relock, the bootloader of the arc for some time now thanks to the geniuses here at XDA. Moreover, custom ROMs are being developed for it.
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Thats good News
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Moving from X10i to Arc was fantastic ... The performance & sleekness of the phone is beyond just hardware specs. It's just a big improvement from the X10i
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I completely agree with you, i had X10i and i felt the X10 was the greatest ever. And after i got Arc the performance, hdmi connection and design where so much better than X10, and i dont regret buying Arc!
Hi guys i've been exploring these two devices and their forums. The fact is that this friday i'm getting a new phone but i don't really know which one of these is right for me, i mean in specs they are pretty much the same.
Physically i like a little bit more the XT because of the bigger screen, the nav bar instrad of the Not so nice notification led bar on the XS, also the XT Has the possiblity of adding an micro sd card. The downside i see about the XT is the Thermal throttling and the dimming screen when playing or else, but don' really know if this also happens on the XS. The camera quality of both devices are good, some claim XT is better but XS is really close.
The development section on the XT Is really young, i mean there are not many roms nor kernels etc. So this is a point for the XS which development is a little more advanced and explored.
So those are my thoughts anyways i want you guys to help me decide by telling me which pne would you buy and why?
Pd. Also recommend a rom for the device you'd pick.
In my case for the XS i think i'd go pac rom or cm9
For the XT Any stock rom deodexed and optimized and then cusromize it at my taste
Thanks in advance :fingers-crossed:
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Hi guys i've been exploring these two devices and their forums. The fact is that this friday i'm getting a new phone but i don't really know which one of these is right for me, i mean in specs they are pretty much the same.
Physically i like a little bit more the XT because of the bigger screen, the nav bar instrad of the Not so nice notification led bar on the XS, also the XT Has the possiblity of adding an micro sd card. The downside i see about the XT is the Thermal throttling and the dimming screen when playing or else, but don' really know if this also happens on the XS. The camera quality of both devices are good, some claim XT is better but XS is really close.
The development section on the XT Is really young, i mean there are not many roms nor kernels etc. So this is a point for the XS which development is a little more advanced and explored.
So those are my thoughts anyways i want you guys to help me decide by telling me which pne would you buy and why?
Pd. Also recommend a rom for the device you'd pick.
In my case for the XS i think i'd go pac rom or cm9
For the XT Any stock rom deodexed and optimized and then cusromize it at my taste
Thanks in advance :fingers-crossed:
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Xperia T is great. I actually have Xperia S. I was wondering if I should upgrade, and decided to stay with S
to get the quadcore Xperia which should be out next year.
Xperia T is slightly faster and has improved interface elements over previous Xperias, but the difference is not massive.
So if the price doesn't count, get the newer. If the price counts you can safely take S which is still a great phone.
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Xperia T is great. I actually have Xperia S. I was wondering if I should upgrade, and decided to stay with S
to get the quadcore Xperia which should be out next year.
Xperia T is slightly faster and has improved interface elements over previous Xperias, but the difference is not massive.
So if the price doesn't count, get the newer. If the price counts you can safely take S which is still a great phone.
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Agree with you. Xperia S is a good device! I'm going to buy in the future the new quad core device from Sony ,so decided to stay with my XS for now.
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Agree with you. Xperia S is a good device! I'm going to buy in the future the new quad core device from Sony ,so decided to stay with my XS for now.
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I was able to compare both so it's true for sure.
If you're at least concerned about the price, pick the Xperia S, definitely.
If you're rich or really just don't care about money, get the Xperia T.
The Xperia T does everything just a little better, but there's no major change.
I'm loving my Xperia S. Anything I'd wish it had, the Xperia T doesn't have either.
Get the Xperia V.
It has the new Qualcomm S4 Snapdragon processor which offers a substantial performance boost over the S3 processor in the Xperia S. It is also more energy-efficient.
Xperia T.is.good phone (a little bit better than XS), but look at this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32121456
Okay so I'm in a situation where I soon need to get rid of my old sh**ty Xperia Active.
My first smart phone was a Xperia X10i (Which I contributed almost all stock firmwares for, here on XDA), followed by a Nokia 800 (WP7), then a Huawei Ascend P1 which I unfortunately lost and had to go back to a backup phone which is the Xperia Active.
Now I've been looking around for a replacement and the Z1C is really attractive with the awesome design language Sony has set for their Xperia line. But I wanted to get the opinions from flashers and devs here on XDA, mainly because I usually don't stick with stock firmware for long.
So I've done some searching and found some "contenders" for my next phone.
Sony Xperia Z1 Compact
Oppo Find 7a
Sony Xperia M2
OnePlus One (When available)
Google Nexus 5
I know there is loads of custom firmwares for the Nexus line of devices, and the Oppo and OnePlus devices has CyanogenMod support.
So my only "Uncertainty" is the Xperia devices.
Now I know FXP is covering a lot of Xperias but I want to know if there is other major ROM supports for the Z1C and M2 and if the release cycle is on time with CM or not too far after that.
And how stable the builds are in general with the latest official builds of Android (4.4.3 and 4.4.4).
In general how have you had it with your Z1C?
Is it easy to root?
What recoveries is available?
Is there many reports on defects/faults on the device?
How well is the developer community for this particular device?
Is Sony releasing kernel source for the device?
I appreciate all the input you can give me and hopefully I'll get a little bit back into the Xperia hacking.
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So I've done some searching and found some "contenders" for my next phone.
Sony Xperia Z1 Compact
Oppo Find 7a
Sony Xperia M2
OnePlus One (When available)
Google Nexus 5
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I'm curious, why is Z1C on the list but not the Z2? I ask because I noticed that besides the Z1C (and the M2 which is just a cheaper (and larger) Z1C pretty much) all the other phones are 5" or larger. The main reason I personally picked the 4.3" Z1C is that it has flagship specs in a small package, that and that Sony are traditionally quite developer friendly. Is it an economical choice or are you just not sure on the size?
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I'm curious, why is Z1C on the list but not the Z2? I ask because I noticed that besides the Z1C (and the M2 which is just a cheaper (and larger) Z1C pretty much) all the other phones are 5" or larger. The main reason I personally picked the 4.3" Z1C is that it has flagship specs in a small package, that and that Sony are traditionally quite developer friendly. Is it an economical choice or are you just not sure on the size?
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Mostly because of pricing. These devices cost from 270 to 400 euro here, and the Z2 is significantly more expensive because it's the newest flagship coming in at around 670 euro, and I wont spent that on a phone since I'm buying without contract as I'm perfectly happy with my carrier and don't want to be locked down for 6 months at a new carrier.
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Mostly because of pricing. These devices cost roughly the same here, and the Z2 is significantly more expensive because it's the newest flagship.
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So it has nothing to do with size? Because compared to other Snapdragon 800 phones, that (and waterproofing) is what the Z1C has going for it. It has a lower resolution display which means less work for the GPU, and thus better battery life and a more fluid UI.
If it's solely the price and you don't mind a larger phone then I'd probably go with a One PlusOne, but I would suggest you go and have a play with a Z1C before making a decision. See if you like the size.
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So it has nothing to do with size? Because compared to other Snapdragon 800 phones, that (and waterproofing) is what the Z1C has going for it. It has a lower resolution display which means less work for the GPU, and thus better battery life and a more fluid UI.
If it's solely the price and you don't mind a larger phone then I'd probably go with a One PlusOne, but I would suggest you go and have a play with a Z1C before making a decision. See if you like the size.
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Well it's not all down to price. I want a phone that has a good dev community around it, so it's possible to try new kernels, tweaked stock firmwares and custom firmwares like CM, Paranoid and other major custom ROM's. I know that Nexus has this, but the design of that phone is boring and the camera is "bleeh". So the Z1C looked like a good device with great specs, small form factor and a great camera.
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Well it's not all down to price. I want a phone that has a good dev community around it, so it's possible to try new kernels, tweaked stock firmwares and custom firmwares like CM, Paranoid and other major custom ROM's. I know that Nexus has this, but the design of that phone is boring and the camera is "bleeh". So the Z1C looked like a good device with great specs, small form factor and a great camera.
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Well camera is a bit iffy, but other than that CM runs smooth as hell on the Z1C, that's really all I care about hehe.
Trying to be helpful here (my comments in italics):
In general how have you had it with your Z1C?
I used to be LG O2X owner, and compared to my old phone Z1C even running with stock rom is fast, stable and smooth.
Is it easy to root?
Very easy. All you need to do is download a file and follow the OP here. And I can confirm that it works with the latest kitkat/4.4.4.
What recoveries is available?
TWRP, PhilZ and CWM are available. You can get them here..
Is there many reports on defects/faults on the device?
Some users report flashbleed problem with the camera (fortunately I don't have that problem).
How well is the developer community for this particular device?
I'd say quite good, judging from the number of custom ROM and kernel available for Z1C in the XDA.
Is Sony releasing kernel source for the device?
I think so, check here..
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Is Sony releasing kernel source for the device?
I think so, check here..
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Is Sony releasing kernel source for the device?
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Sony recently uploaded all their copyleft kernels to GitHub, below link is for current Z1C tree.
https://github.com/sonyxperiadev/kernel-copyleft/tree/14.3.A.0.xxx
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Well camera is a bit iffy, but other than that CM runs smooth as hell on the Z1C, that's really all I care about hehe.
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Hmm that's quite a big point in why I want the Z1C. The great pictures that can be taken on stock doesn't work properly on cm. Are they porting stock camera drivers and app into future FXP releases or count on getting the issues fixed?
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Well camera is a bit iffy, but other than that CM runs smooth as hell on the Z1C, that's really all I care about hehe.
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Do photos have a lower quality or do some things simply don't work?
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Do photos have a lower quality or do some things simply don't work?
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Photos seem to have more noise as far as I could tell when I tested a FXP build. And currently it's not possible to have 4k and 120FPS recording on a CM based rom or at least nobody successfully tested it.
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Do photos have a lower quality or do some things simply don't work?
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About the same quality wise in my opinion, but camera starts really slow, and you lose a lot of features and post-processing that Sonys camera app does.
People mentioned that the BIONZ image processor only works with stock roms, don't know if that's true.
Guys I am about to buy this phone very soon. Is flash bleeding still a problem? I am considering this or Z3 compact
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Guys I am about to buy this phone very soon. Is flash bleeding still a problem? I am considering this or Z3 compact
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Just don't buy this phone. I don't think the flash bleed problem is related to the time of manufacturing. My phone is 14W10 and the flash bleed is so bad. Some users with older units reported not having the flash bleed problem at all.
I'd say don't waste your money on this phone. Waiting for the Z3 compact would be the wiser choice. Although for me I'd rather staying away from sony phones. Poor camera + removing the ability to move apps to SD without root even on JB + poor customer service really killed sony for me and this will be my last phone from them.
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Just don't buy this phone. I don't think the flash bleed problem is related to the time of manufacturing. My phone is 14W10 and the flash bleed is so bad. Some users with older units reported not having the flash bleed problem at all.
I'd say don't waste your money on this phone. Waiting for the Z3 compact would be the wiser choice. Although for me I'd rather staying away from sony phones. Poor camera + removing the ability to move apps to SD without root even on JB + poor customer service really killed sony for me and this will be my last phone from them.
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Oh thats too bad... I really love the water proofing of z1 compact
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Oh thats too bad... I really love the water proofing of z1 compact
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Why Z1c in particular?? ZR, Z1, Z2 are all waterproof. Samsung galaxy S5 is also waterproof. You're not short of options in this department. If you really like Sony why not get the Z2?
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Why Z1c in particular?? ZR, Z1, Z2 are all waterproof. Samsung galaxy S5 is also waterproof. You're not short of options in this department. If you really like Sony why not get the Z2?
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budget and screen size wise... and I think Z1c is better than ZR in every aspect
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budget and screen size wise... and I think Z1c is better than ZR in every aspect
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In that case I'd wait for the Z3 compact...hopefully all the problems that the Z1c has would be fixed "and much more" in the Z3c
Hi, i have one simple question. Should i buy XZ or Z5 Premium and why? I have Xperia Z2. Thanks
Hi,
Since you are here, on XDA. You can easily see how Sony is doing in the eye of other XDAers. So, as a Z5 Premium owner who likes the phone and thinks of holding on to it for like a year or two, I sincerely recommend you to buy a LG V20 or a Pixel XL.
This phone is not even 1.5 year old (from release date). I have used much more cheaper and older phones, which I have still got every answer for my every question and every possible customizations on XDA (HTC Sensation XE being one of them). None had this much abandonment on XDA. No development, no customization, no themes, no nothing. This phone is beautiful but it is also just "as is". If you are OK with adding and substracting absolutely nothing to the phone, then it's a good phone (then you wouldn't probably be in here XDA though).
The pros are all pyshical: the screen, sound quality, battery life, body material, camera are all a lot higher than the high standards of the flagships (though, none is the best in their categories). If there were some love from the community, at least maybe CyanogenMod (R.I.P.), FXP Blog or Lineage OS. Even Z5 is has not the previlige..
So I say, make sure to look at other options before actually deciding.
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Hi, i have one simple question. Should i buy XZ or Z5 Premium and why? I have Xperia Z2. Thanks
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I would go for the XZ Premium instead if the XZ, from what I'm seeing pricing is excellent this time around of $ is not a concern...
Now if you're on a budget, XZ will get more updates than Z5p as it's a newer device, I'm not a fan of the XZ look, especially the slipt material back and the plastic side frame (but they took care of that with the XZS that's about to come out.
The Z5p is a great looking phone on the other hand with the right use of proper material and with still great hardware...I'll be upgrading to a XZ Premium whenever it will be out.
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Hi,
Since you are here, on XDA. You can easily see how Sony is doing in the eye of other XDAers. So, as a Z5 Premium owner who likes the phone and thinks of holding on to it for like a year or two, I sincerely recommend you to buy a LG V20 or a Pixel XL.
This phone is not even 1.5 year old (from release date). I have used much more cheaper and older phones, which I have still got every answer for my every question and every possible customizations on XDA (HTC Sensation XE being one of them). None had this much abandonment on XDA. No development, no customization, no themes, no nothing. This phone is beautiful but it is also just "as is". If you are OK with adding and substracting absolutely nothing to the phone, then it's a good phone (then you wouldn't probably be in here XDA though).
The pros are all pyshical: the screen, sound quality, battery life, body material, camera are all a lot higher than the high standards of the flagships (though, none is the best in their categories). If there were some love from the community, at least maybe CyanogenMod (R.I.P.), FXP Blog or Lineage OS. Even Z5 is has not the previlige..
So I say, make sure to look at other options before actually deciding.
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Looks like more people went for the Z5 than the Z5p, just by looking how the other forum is more active than this one here and most rom available for the Z5 are also flashable on our Z5p... Lineage is also out recently, I haven't tried it though as I'm waiting Xposed to be compatible with sdk24, so I'm still on MM (RomAur)...nowadays as long as you can get a good optimized custom/stock rom and custom kernel (Zach's Kernel do wonders by the way), you can do pretty much all the UI cosmetics add-ons with Xposed yourself...