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well after trying the 10th time to upgrade/downgrade - I need your assistance. For the Blueangel the upgrade procedure advises in order to come to the first selection menu in WM5: "If you have a PH20B1 device such as SX66 * Quickly press Record+Windows Media before the versions appears at bottom right * OR, press Power+Softreset+Windows Media Player button+Record at the same time."
If I do so I always end up in the bootloader mode again, no way to get into: "You'll see three options; change the second and the third to "yes"" - just bootloader.
Are there other button combinations for the XDAIII - Blueangel?
thanks
Christian
Same problem on my xda3:
I have the german Version of it. Everytime i try to upgrabe, a screen with 3 differcent colors arrive and nothing happens.
Pleas help me, i got really stucked on this.
btw: it is the v5 Final-> those version which are pressed on dell and so on? Or isit a beta-version?
Thanks
(sry, for my bad english)
Hello everyone.
I do have some experience with rom modifications on my I-mate Jam, but this was the first time I tried to change my m700's rom.
Things I've removed from my rom (pretty fearsome):
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OEM\OEM_Lang_0409
blank.pwi
meeting.pwi
memo.pwi
phone.pwi
todo.pwi
OEM\OEMDrivers
Avrcp_MPplugin.dll
SYS\BaseApps\
-ApproveUpdate\
-AUTOUPDATE\
-Autoupdate_Lang_0409\
-caldll.dll\
-calendar.exe\
-calnot.exe\
-calstore.dll\
-calupd.exe\
-fexplore.exe\
-hotvoice.exe\
-idledetect.exe\
-notes.exe\
-pimapi.dll\
-pimdlg.dll\
-pimg.exe\
-pimgdll.dll\
-pimgres.dll\
-pimstore.dll\
-taskdll.dll\
-tasks.exe\
-calc.lnk
-calendar.lnk
-MobileCalculator.exe
-notetake.lnk
-pimg.lnk
-tasks.lnk
SYS\Browsing\
SYS\Browsing_DPI_96\
SYS\Catalog\
SYS\Catalog_Lang_0409\
SYS\Entertainment\
SYS\Entertainment_DPI_96\
SYS\Entertainment_Lang_0409\
SYS\Entertainment_Lang_0409_DPI_96\
SYS\FWUPDATE\
SYS\Fwupdate_Lang_0409\
SYS\IRDA\
SYS\IRDA_Lang_0409\
SYS\MediaOS\
SYS\MediaOS_Lang_0409\
SYS\MediaOS_resh_240_resv_320\
SYS\Office\
SYS\Office_DPI_96\
SYS\Office_Lang_0409\
SYS\Office_Lang_0409_DPI_96\
SYS\Os\
-ircomm.dll (only!)
SYS\Shell\
SYS\Transcriber\
SYS\Transcriber_Lang_0409\
SYS\Transcriber_Lang_0409_DPI_96\
SYS\WindowsLive\
SYS\WindowsLive_DPI_96\
SYS\WindowsLive_Lang_0409\
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I didnt modify my registry, cause I thought it will give errors, but the rom will still be working. I was going to clean up non existing keys with sktools.
I've packed my rom back, everything went ok.
I've uploaded rom to my eten m700 via usb. Again everything was ok.
Then I've made a hard reset (after the installation) and the device booted (the screen was orange). But nothing happened after. The device froze.
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Could it happen becouse I didn't remove 'today plugins' in a registry?
Or some programms are hardcoded to wince, so u just cant boot without them?
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Oh yes, ActiveSync doesn't see my device. I've heard it is possible to start usb sync from the knight mode. How do I do it?
press the camera button and screen off button together. reset the cellphone while still holding the two buttons. it will go to dark mode
Thx for the tip.
In test mode, I've found out that my Os image checksum is smaller. So I'd probably add irda dll back. I'll also remove all today plugins in registry settings to make sure the os can boot properly.
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Here comes the question!
I enter the bootloader mode on my device. It says USB host is connected. Waiting a download.
But my activesync doesn't see the device... And when I start upgrading the device here what comes out:
Can't connect to the device. Please make sure ActiveSync is working normally.
How do I fight this? I don't have a sd card yet...
[Solved]
Yes, there is a trick! Thx to Юрка, from 4pda.
U just need to plug any other communicator (wince) to the cord, start the updater. When it comes to the download (black pic apears to the left, saying smth about download)
-put your nonworking device in a bootloader mode (hold down turn on/off button + recorder button and push restart, then release power button, but still keep holding the recorder button)
-unplug ur other device from the cable
-plugin the eten nonworking device
click upload and after everything went well - ENJOY!
I recently purchased two M88 Miphones from China (Windows Mobile 6.0 version). Both were supposed to be in English but when they were shipped to me, one was in English and the other Spanish. How can I change the language from Spanish to English? Or maybe I can install an entirely new English version of Windows Mobile 6.0? Can I extract the ROM from the English one and use it for the other (Spanish) one? Please help. Thanks.
It's great to find a way to install or restore the Windows on M88. My one just died. I haven't access to anything but the "phone" functions, so i need to restore it somehow from my PC. Some advices?
snakemountain said:
I recently purchased two M88 Miphones from China (Windows Mobile 6.0 version). Both were supposed to be in English but when they were shipped to me, one was in English and the other Spanish. How can I change the language from Spanish to English? Or maybe I can install an entirely new English version of Windows Mobile 6.0? Can I extract the ROM from the English one and use it for the other (Spanish) one? Please help. Thanks.
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Hi, I think there is a way to change your Windows to English. I received the same phone with the same problem. I wrote to the supplier and they respond with the decision: they provided the original english WM6 ROM for M88 MiPhone on the website, so you can download it from here: http://rapidshare.com/files/168534489/DX.SKU16783.UPDATE.ENGLISH.AUG01.rar
But my problem is that I can't go in to the bootloader mode - just don't know how so to start loading the Windows OS. The instructions on the site are very poor and don't work. So I'm stuck again. Here there are the instructions:
"English OS System 20080801 Edition (ROM image) available for download
- To update ROM, format your TF card with FAT32 and unzip all files and folders from the downloaded file into the root folder of the TF card. Then, restart the phone to begin updating. This update converts all non-English versions of this phone into English version."
And some more instructions from my correspondence with the supplier, which shows different way of putting the phone in to the bootloader mode:
"we have a better idea to solve this inconvenience for you
we had updated a file on our website for you
you can download it and put it in your memory card to update the language into English.
you can put the file in the memory card no need to creat a folder for it
and insert the card into your cellphone
press the power bottom and the home bottom together
a few second later there would be a message on the screen shows you can press the home bottom again to restart the cellphone"
So maybe you can see they are showing different ways to enter the boot loader. Neidher 2 of them are working for me.
Since I have this phone I didn't find a way to enter the bootloader mode! I tried every combination between the keys but NOTHING! The only thing what I can do with the buttons is SWITCH OFF, SOFT RESET AND HARD RESET.
Please if somebody discover how to do that on that phone -M88 to share here with the rest of us!
Best of luck!
teddy_irish said:
Hi, I think there is a way to change your Windows to English. I received the same phone with the same problem. I wrote to the supplier and they respond with the decision: they provided the original english WM6 ROM for M88 MiPhone on the website, so you can download it from here: http://rapidshare.com/files/168534489/DX.SKU16783.UPDATE.ENGLISH.AUG01.rar
But my problem is that I can't go in to the bootloader mode - just don't know how so to start loading the Windows OS. The instructions on the site are very poor and don't work. So I'm stuck again. Here there are the instructions:
"English OS System 20080801 Edition (ROM image) available for download
- To update ROM, format your TF card with FAT32 and unzip all files and folders from the downloaded file into the root folder of the TF card. Then, restart the phone to begin updating. This update converts all non-English versions of this phone into English version."
And some more instructions from my correspondence with the supplier, which shows different way of putting the phone in to the bootloader mode:
"we have a better idea to solve this inconvenience for you
we had updated a file on our website for you
you can download it and put it in your memory card to update the language into English.
you can put the file in the memory card no need to creat a folder for it
and insert the card into your cellphone
press the power bottom and the home bottom together
a few second later there would be a message on the screen shows you can press the home bottom again to restart the cellphone"
So maybe you can see they are showing different ways to enter the boot loader. Neidher 2 of them are working for me.
Since I have this phone I didn't find a way to enter the bootloader mode! I tried every combination between the keys but NOTHING! The only thing what I can do with the buttons is SWITCH OFF, SOFT RESET AND HARD RESET.
Please if somebody discover how to do that on that phone -M88 to share here with the rest of us!
Best of luck!
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Hi, I'm From Brazil
I'm selling this phone here in my country.
I think I've got same problem here. But I've tried to get bootscren and it seems to be that procedure correct.
Once you shutdown the phone first remove it battery for 10 seconds, and than put back into the phone. Than press power and home(that center buttom) until phone show 2 messages(one for master boot and other for clear boot).
After this message you may release power buttom and keep pressing home buttom untill phone shows it boot screen.
You will face a "downloading program, please wait" message on phone screem
But be extremelly carefull than, make sure you have a power cable attached to the phone and it battery at least 90% charged because update took lot of time sometimes.
I'm telling that because today I have one M88 "dead" in my hands because I did not followed all this procedure and after 35 minutes, by mystake I pressed reset buttom.
Now my phone not even turns on, nor charge it battery, is dead.
But I think using one of those "BOX" devices I will ressucitate it!
Thanks m8!
The thing is that when I press the 2 buttons at once I can only get blue screen for less than 1 second and after that Windows is loading. When it is done - the phone is after hard reset. I've tried hundreds of times - always the same. I can't get messages asking me to load software - only hard reset is the result. I've tried any other combination, including the reset buton under the cover, next to USB, but never managed to enter the service mode or boot mode or whatever it is.
One week I'm wasting my time in doing hundreds of attemts to enter the bootloader and nothing! How then do you make a hard reset on the M88?
Do you thing if I can use backup from english version of the same model that will change the situation - the spanish will be substituted by english? And if it's possible can you upload such a backup, made by Spb backup software for me, please?
Best regards
I have stupid problem. Some files disappeared, some programs stopped working and the entire system blocked. I made many soft and hard resets, which fixed the things... for a while. After one hour it's blocking again, without any settings, or interventions.
I downloaded the ROM, created a "root" folder in the card and unzipped everything there.
The thing is that it ROM-boot looks too fast - only couple of minutes. Can it be?
teddy_irish said:
Thanks m8!
The thing is that when I press the 2 buttons at once I can only get blue screen for less than 1 second and after that Windows is loading. When it is done - the phone is after hard reset. I've tried hundreds of times - always the same. I can't get messages asking me to load software - only hard reset is the result. I've tried any other combination, including the reset buton under the cover, next to USB, but never managed to enter the service mode or boot mode or whatever it is.
One week I'm wasting my time in doing hundreds of attemts to enter the bootloader and nothing! How then do you make a hard reset on the M88?
Do you thing if I can use backup from english version of the same model that will change the situation - the spanish will be substituted by english? And if it's possible can you upload such a backup, made by Spb backup software for me, please?
Best regards
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I think I can do that,
but in one and half week because I'm still waiting for the flashing box and their cables.
Once I get I will upload it here.
ZEMONTI said:
I have stupid problem. Some files disappeared, some programs stopped working and the entire system blocked. I made many soft and hard resets, which fixed the things... for a while. After one hour it's blocking again, without any settings, or interventions.
I downloaded the ROM, created a "root" folder in the card and unzipped everything there.
The thing is that it ROM-boot looks too fast - only couple of minutes. Can it be?
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Go ahead
But be pretty calm when performing update or you gonna get a bricked phone.
But is it possible that the update takes only few minutes? Or i'm doing only hard reset?
It is possible the update to take only few minutes
ZEMONTI said:
But is it possible that the update takes only few minutes? Or i'm doing only hard reset?
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Hi from Ireland!
Yes it's possible. Today I finally managed to make the update - it took only 3 minutes. Now I have English OS on my M88!
It's a really nice phone isn't it?
Regards
teddy_irish said:
Hi from Ireland!
Yes it's possible. Today I finally managed to make the update - it took only 3 minutes. Now I have English OS on my M88!
It's a really nice phone isn't it?
Regards
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That's good news!
Yes It is!
How to install WM6 ROM - English version on M88 MiPhone from SD card
Please download the original ROM from here
I was adwised to do this:
1. Duplicate the update.img file and rename the second one as "uploader"
2. Copy both "update.img" and "uploader" on the SD - formatted in FAT32
3. Press POWER and HOME butons at the same time.
4. There are two possible options from here:
a) White screen with blue text showing "Upload image... please wait..."
b) Red screen with the options what to do in the next step -
5. I saw first the a) option - the white screen. So after 3 minutes of waiting the phone said it is done and it will selfrestart.
After the restart it will load the English OS on your M88
Enjoy
the mine is dead too.
stenatay said:
hi, i'm from brazil
i'm selling this phone here in my country.
I think i've got same problem here. But i've tried to get bootscren and it seems to be that procedure correct.
Once you shutdown the phone first remove it battery for 10 seconds, and than put back into the phone. Than press power and home(that center buttom) until phone show 2 messages(one for master boot and other for clear boot).
After this message you may release power buttom and keep pressing home buttom untill phone shows it boot screen.
You will face a "downloading program, please wait" message on phone screem
but be extremelly carefull than, make sure you have a power cable attached to the phone and it battery at least 90% charged because update took lot of time sometimes.
I'm telling that because today i have one m88 "dead" in my hands because i did not followed all this procedure and after 35 minutes, by mystake i pressed reset buttom.
Now my phone not even turns on, nor charge it battery, is dead.
But i think using one of those "box" devices i will ressucitate it!
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i am passing through the same. What do you mean with box. I need to ressuciatate it
please.
[email protected]/ [email protected]
helllp
stenatay said:
hi, i'm from brazil
i'm selling this phone here in my country.
I think i've got same problem here. But i've tried to get bootscren and it seems to be that procedure correct.
Once you shutdown the phone first remove it battery for 10 seconds, and than put back into the phone. Than press power and home(that center buttom) until phone show 2 messages(one for master boot and other for clear boot).
After this message you may release power buttom and keep pressing home buttom untill phone shows it boot screen.
You will face a "downloading program, please wait" message on phone screem
but be extremelly carefull than, make sure you have a power cable attached to the phone and it battery at least 90% charged because update took lot of time sometimes.
I'm telling that because today i have one m88 "dead" in my hands because i did not followed all this procedure and after 35 minutes, by mystake i pressed reset buttom.
Now my phone not even turns on, nor charge it battery, is dead.
But i think using one of those "box" devices i will ressucitate it!
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help me, the mine is dead.
how per-say?
teddy_irish said:
Hi from Ireland!
Yes it's possible. Today I finally managed to make the update - it took only 3 minutes. Now I have English OS on my M88!
It's a really nice phone isn't it?
Regards
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how persay did u get past the blue screen?
hello I am of chili and my m88 non reconose the card of cellular neither the icon of the cellular one needs urgent operative elsistema and the program and naturally like one makes before hand thank you
Hello every one,
I have this phone too, I trying to find any way or a cab to send the audio from the Fm radio app to the bluetooth headset, but no progrees, it only works with the original eraphones,
Any one have an a idea woh to do it?,
Regsards.
Javier.
jaguerra said:
Hello every one,
I have this phone too, I trying to find any way or a cab to send the audio from the Fm radio app to the bluetooth headset, but no progrees, it only works with the original eraphones,
Any one have an a idea woh to do it?,
Regsards.
Javier.
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Me too. I was intending to lessen some audio-books.
Does it requires some additional software?
so how did it go and whats the name of the box i need one kinda kill my phone as well
please give info if u have it
M88 english bootloader
Here is the fix, sponsored by wirelessandmorestore.com
Copy both of these files to your computer.
http://uploading.com/files/YE6JJ36Y/update.img.html
http://uploading.com/files/TA1N0MBA/uploader.img.html
Plug in your phone and copy them to the SD card.
Turn the phone off.
Press the button on the top and the round button on the face at the same time and continue to hold it. As you are holding it, the phone will turn and go thorugh a couple steps before it says something like 'downloading image' or 'updating image' something like that.
Once it gets to that screen, you can let go of the buttons and the phone will update and reboot. This will take a couple of minutes. It will be in English when it turns itself back on and loads Windows.
English OS System 20080801 Edition (ROM image) for M88 MiPhone
Please download from here
If somebody knows how to enter the bootloader mode of this phone please share here with us!
Here is the instruction for this procedure from the supplier which is nor working for me:
"English OS System 20080801 Edition (ROM image) available for download
- To update ROM, format your TF card with FAT32 and unzip all files and folders from the downloaded file into the root folder of the TF card. Then, restart the phone to begin updating. This update converts all non-English versions of this phone into English version."
If somebody can manage to install the ROM please write here the steps!
Thanks!
You can get to the flash update by pressing RESET, MENU, and POWER all at the same time, then release RESET first and wait for a message. The message will tell you to release POWER to do a hard-reset or MENU to do a flash update. In this case, you will release MENU first, then you will get a message asking if you want to update from SD. At this point, none of the buttons do anything so I assume you have to tap the touchscreen. My touchscreen is broken so I couldn't get any further than this.
Problem Fixed!
GnatGoSplat said:
You can get to the flash update by pressing RESET, MENU, and POWER all at the same time, then release RESET first and wait for a message. The message will tell you to release POWER to do a hard-reset or MENU to do a flash update. In this case, you will release MENU first, then you will get a message asking if you want to update from SD. At this point, none of the buttons do anything so I assume you have to tap the touchscreen. My touchscreen is broken so I couldn't get any further than this.
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Thanks for your help, m8. It didn't work that way for me. I was adwised to do this:
1. Duplicate the update.img file and rename the second one as "uploader"
2. Copy both "update.img" and "uploader" on the SD - formatted in FAT32
3. Press POWER and HOME butons at the same time.
4. There are two possible options from here:
a) White screen with blue text showing "Upload image... please wait..."
b) Red screen with the options what to do in the next step -
5. I saw first the a) option - the white screen. So after 3 minutes of waiting the phone said it is done and it will selfrestart. After the restart - voila! There was the English OS loaded on my phone and everything was working perfect!
Hope this to help to other people too!
Wow! It was very detailed and finally i resolved my problem. Thanks!
Does somebody knows how can i uninstall the fung S2U2? It causes a lot of problems with the horizontal screen ant others. It's not in the list of "remove programs".
Check this out:
ZEMONTI said:
Wow! It was very detailed and finally i resolved my problem. Thanks!
Does somebody knows how can i uninstall the fung S2U2? It causes a lot of problems with the horizontal screen ant others. It's not in the list of "remove programs".
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Check this out:
Resco explorer
Pocket Mechanic
Pocket Toolman
Resco is very useful thing so the other two are very powerful as well. You will definetely uninstall S2U2 with more than one of them.
Good luck!
Hi, is it existing a French release of this rom for M88 or can you help me for translate it ? Cordialy
Sorry for my english very bad...
MMS works in this rom?
MMS works only with Arcsoft_MMS_Composer_v5.0.31.16
bye
Mark
i have aquestion... : I was screwing around with the m88 phone and put in the original rom in (I've done this many times) but this time i forgot to use the other three files .img and ... i only had the update.img in the card... then when i tried flahing it , it was reading but the battery fell out and now it wont turn on.... any ideas on how i can fix this... ???? I really need the help please!!! If it is possible to fix this.
helppp
I need help i was updating mi os , but it takes more than a half of hour , and now it wont turn on again how can i fix that? thanks?!
problems
i have a daxian +999
i flash it whit that file it work but now i have a white screen the phone looks like ok but nothing shows in the screen only a white screen what i can do ??
My touchscreen does work but I get the white screen asking me "updated from SD card?" then it just sits there. I dont have a keyboard to hit Y. None of the buttons do anything. Touching the screen does nothing.
*edit* figured it out. You just keep holding the power button down. Then it flashed to a solid purple screen. I went wtf.... it screwed up again? then after a few minutes it booted up.
problems in m89
hello, I recently bought a M89.
In general the phone is great, but mine has a very big problem.
As a PDA it works great, but when I insert my SIM card the phone just freezes. It works for just a minute after the SIM is inserted. I've even been able to make one or two calls before it freezes.
But past one or two minutes it just stops working. It doesn't respond to anything at all, the only solution is to remove the battery.
I think the problem is in the firmware. I've reinstalled a bunch of diferent firmwares: wm6 english, wm6.1 spanish, wm6 english again... and nothing works.
can anyone help me???, 'cause this is really killing me :'(
Thanks in advance!
oic0 said:
My touchscreen does work but I get the white screen asking me "updated from SD card?" then it just sits there. I dont have a keyboard to hit Y. None of the buttons do anything. Touching the screen does nothing.
*edit* figured it out. You just keep holding the power button down. Then it flashed to a solid purple screen. I went wtf.... it screwed up again? then after a few minutes it booted up.
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Just wondering - What is the size of your microSD card.
As far as I know m88 does not support SD card greater that 4 Gb by default.
Please, let us know.
Updated from SD Card ?
Hello, first of all I want to say thank you because I learned a lot from this thread. I bought M88 phone some months ago and is the first time I cannot use ( I really don't know what went wrong but finally the phone is not working or frezze ).
I bought 2Gb card and was formatted in FAT32. I also complete all steps in order to load the original image but I got this message: "updated from SD card?" and nothing more... What button must be pressed ?
I'll go crazy... do you know what's the next step ?
Thank you very much.
i dont understand sorry. i have to copy the "update" imgfile and rename it as "uploader"... and leave this two files : "update and uploader" in the root folder ?
I've install ROM from this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=452848
and now, when I try power on my MiPhone - it show only white screen - please help!
bootloading
the file, atleast on windows 7, shows up as "update". Also, I found it works must faster and easier to make 3 copies (4 files total)
naming 1: update.img
2: uploader.img
3: Update
and 4: uploader
(so the last 2 don't actual have .img in the title)
Then just make sure you hold down both the buttons, and vuo-la! haha
Doesn't fix the MMS problem though.
Does anyone know how to make it so that it can use mms?
Miphon m88
Danke es funktioniert supper !!
i got white screen too ;[ how to fix my phone now ;/ i dont see enythink ;[
Hello!
I've been out of the phone game for a while (plan on coming back soon though), but I've been tinkering around with random things.
A few months back I picked up a new car that had a double din alpine head unit, and behind the head unit this PMD - 200 Blackbird 2 was being stowed.
Interested in what it was, I quickly learned it was a Windows CE 4.2 based device that alpine had applied a skin to.
As I started messing with it, I realized that whenever I turned it on, it would just go to a black screen. After looking around online and talking to some Representative at Alpine, there was no longer any support for it and they pretty much told me to go screw myself with my obsolete device.
That's fine, I said...I'll figure out a way to get it working. Obviously the device is home to a Win CE infrastructure and I'd be happy with having that alone...and from there I could do many things.
So I started messing with it. Pushing different button combinations seeing if it would boot into a boot-loader or anything. To my avail, about 15 minutes in I had it booting into Windows CE. I Simply held the reset button and the power button for 15 seconds, let off the rest button, it powered on, started playing with the center button...and poof...Windows CE appeared.
So I start messing around. Checking out the pre-installed data and such. Im about to wife all of Alpine's crappy software and have it boot strictly into windows, and by accident I clicked an icon that booted me back into Alpine's overlay.
No matter! I'll just boot back into windows! So I hold the reset button and turn off the device. Then I go through the process of booting windows again....and nothing...it boots straight into "Map Update Mode". I keep trying the same thing, but the more I try, the more frustrated I get that it won't do what I had it doing before.
That's okay. Map update mode is essentially saying the device is looking for update. Oh..I'll give it an "update" alright I said...But it's plainly recognized as a mass storage device.
MY problem is, this has become about alot more than what Im going to do once I get back into windows. It has been bugging the hell out of me, and I REALLY need to get back in, but Im just running dry. There is absolutely NO information out there about this(well, for the blackbird 2 I should say)
I'll list everything I've found so far, if anyone at all has some words of wisdom, a suggestion, or even knows how to do it...please help me out before my head explodes..
Device/Controls:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
--Top//
--Bottom//
Screens and Functions Achieved Thus Far:
--Normal Boot (Hold Power) //
--Basic Boot (Hold Sound Toggle In the Down Position While Holding Power)//
--No Screen Boot #1 (Hold Power Button While Holding Down Arrow On Keypad)
Center Ring is Lit!
--No Screen Boot #2 (Hold Reset + Power + Down Arrow on Keypad)//
Both Center and Outer Ring Lit!
--Windows CE Boot (Unknown)
Instructions on how to Achieve Windows Mode on Alpine BlackBird 1 (PMD-100):
Here procedure for enterin in WinCE 4.2
1. Plug device in charger.
2. Reset the device in the hole taster,
3. Power on while press and hold arrow up,
4. Relise power and hold arrow up,
5. When screen for update map is show don't touch anything on the screen
6. Press and hold Right taster
7. After few seconds you will see WinCE desktop with 9 icons.
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USB Connectivity only appears to be viable when the device is in "Basic Boot". At that point it appears a s a mass storage device.
ANY HELP would be GREATLY appreciated. You can tell how much this is bugging me based on how in-depth I made this thread.
As stated before there is NO information on how to do this, so this is practically a developing thread. ANY comments to further this are appreciated!
Thank you!
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heroskyy said:
bump? :/
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yes please! bump!
i too got to play with windows ce and all the fun apps that alpine stacked on my unit. all of which worked until a faithful reboot and now i can get any screen action unless i use the vol dwn pwr button method. i'm stuck. i use this in my truck quite often (mostly for the mp3 player and bluetooth functions) but i'm pissed i potentially bricked this piece. if only i had made a BACKUP! anyway. let's see if we can crack this case and get on with the fun stuff! (like miopocket 4.0)
edit: also when trying to apply the patch for the pmd b200p (which worked the first time) it now hangs at 26%... no idea...
Nothing like reviving an old thread, right? I just bought one of these on ebay and it's on the way right now. I think I found instructions on another site to get to the Windows CE environment for this device but can't confirm it without the device itself. I have an IVA-W505 and want to either force updated navteq maps to the device or better yet, replace the GPS application entirely. I hear the one alpine puts on there is rather buggy so I've been trying to find alternative options for GPS but want to make sure I can get some up-to-date maps. Also wanted to look into some cool applications and interfaces and see if maybe I can figure out how exactly it starts working when docked inside the alpine head unit. Too much to learn and sadly, not much experience trying to figure out how exactly a device works.
I've been collecting links for reference once I get the device, if anyone wants them let me know and I'll try to find them all and post them. I work from 8:00 AM - 4:30 PM EDT/GMT -4 so I can probably respond pretty quickly within that time frame but may respond a little slower outside that time frame.
If anyone has any suggestions for things I can do or requests for information I should try to collect please let me know, I am hoping to have the device by the end of next week
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I found the instructions to access Windows CE (unconfirmed till I get my device to test) and put them below with the link I found them at:
to unlock the PMD-B200P (the "second" version with Alpine's own version of IGO), you need to reset it, hold the up arrow when powering on. then when the update screen appears, reset it again and this time you need to hold the music button when powering up.normaly this works. if it doesn't (sometimes it doesn't, I don't know why), restart the whole procedure).
then you get a screen where you can choose to launch the satnav, WinCE, update, ... at the right bottom, there is a button "enable/disable menu" . if you set it to enable menu, everytime the unit is powered on you will come to this screen.
I am running this unit now with IGO8 and it works great.
- just empty the "flashdrive". if it's not visible, go to "control panel", "storage manager", select "IDE hard disk", on the right panel, select "properties" and then select "mount". and close all windows.
- copy the IGO map to the flashdrive and rename it "Alpine"
- in the Alpine folder, rename the IGO.exe to AlpineNavi.exe and you are ready to go :dance:
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http://gpsunderground.com/forum/alpine/3219-pmd-b200-nve-p1-unlock.html
If someone is able to test this, let me know if it works?
So after many attempts and further research I don't seem to be having much luck with accessing the Windows CE desktop on this device. I'm going to keep trying of course. Any suggestions for getting further toward getting any kind of unlock would be greatly appreciated
i used the update for the uk model to give me a boot option to load to windows ce instead of the nav software. i'm currently running navon (igo 8.3.5) for gps and it's working great! i'm currently trying to get bluetooth to work as it used to. sorry for such a vague post but if any of you are still tinkering with the blackbird please contact me! would love to share notes!
Alpine PMD-200B attached to Alpine IVA-D106R
Hi to the list
Hope posting in the right section.
I ownn an Alpine PMD-B200P iattached to an Alpine IVA-D106R and i would like
to update it either software and maps.
I have tried changing the IGO8o software with an early release but since i use the PMD
without the autoradio source ( as portable ), everything works great but as i attach it
to the source, the Navigator keeps working OK but i get no audio from the car
speakers, not even the Tick on the display.
Anybody can help me to solve the problem or it is possible to unlock it but does
still work also attached to the Autoradio?
Any help will be really appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Enzo.
unlock
Works 4 me i made the 2.0 upgrade it said upgarde not complete ERROR bla bla bla , i reset and voila i have my boot menu from where i can acces win ce and from there i instaled IGO primo, and i am using it since then, at start it gives the boot menu i select win ce and im good not so bad ooh my unit is Blackbird pmd-b200 (American old version! not the second one ! )
MarkoDaniel said:
Works 4 me i made the 2.0 upgrade it said upgarde not complete ERROR bla bla bla , i reset and voila i have my boot menu from where i can acces win ce and from there i instaled IGO primo, and i am using it since then, at start it gives the boot menu i select win ce and im good not so bad ooh my unit is Blackbird pmd-b200 (American old version! not the second one ! )
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Please can you tell me how to do to have the boot menu from where you can acces win ce?
Thanks
Enzo
verry simple
ik8ozv said:
Please can you tell me how to do to have the boot menu from where you can acces win ce?
Hello Follow this steps ! download pmd-b200 last update , unzip to pc first !, copy to sd, insert sd, reset unit, hold sound down and power on simultan, let it do the upgrade ! it wil say at end error but dont bother reset and you done you get the boot menu from where you can acces wince ENJOY !
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MarkoDaniel said:
ik8ozv said:
Please can you tell me how to do to have the boot menu from where you can acces win ce?
Hello Follow this steps ! download pmd-b200 last update , unzip to pc first !, copy to sd, insert sd, reset unit, hold sound down and power on simultan, let it do the upgrade ! it wil say at end error but dont bother reset and you done you get the boot menu from where you can acces wince ENJOY !
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I already have pmd-b200 last update.
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MarkoDaniel said:
ik8ozv said:
Please can you tell me how to do to have the boot menu from where you can acces win ce?
Hello Follow this steps ! download pmd-b200 last update , unzip to pc first !, copy to sd, insert sd, reset unit, hold sound down and power on simultan, let it do the upgrade ! it wil say at end error but dont bother reset and you done you get the boot menu from where you can acces wince ENJOY !
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Hello,
i cannot get it go.
What i have done is:
Downloaded from the Alpine site the file called FU_PMD-B200P_20_20091008.zip.
Unzipped it and got a folder called FU_PMD-B200P_20_20091008.
Opened the folder and got 3 folders and 3 files.
Copied them in the root of a 512MB SDCARD.
Inserted the SD CARD in the PMD.
Pressed the Reset Button.
While pressing the Music button ( the one on the right side ) i've pressed the power on button and keeped pressed both.,
but i do not get into the WINCE.
I have noticed that keeping pressed both the buttons, i can see on the display the word
Loading...
and after about 25 seconds i get the Alpine Logo and then the navigation program loading till the end.
Nothing happens.
Please am i missing any step?
Any help?
Thanks
Enzo.
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MarkoDaniel said:
ik8ozv said:
Please can you tell me how to do to have the boot menu from where you can acces win ce?
Hello Follow this steps ! download pmd-b200 last update , unzip to pc first !, copy to sd, insert sd, reset unit, hold sound down and power on simultan, let it do the upgrade ! it wil say at end error but dont bother reset and you done you get the boot menu from where you can acces wince ENJOY !
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Please does anybody use the PMD-B200P attached to a Source.
I am using it with an autoradio Alpine IVA D-106R but after have tried or to update the Igo8 or to update
a map as i attach it to the sorce i get the voice disappearing.
If anyboody ha success can please help me to do so?
Any help will be really appreciated.
Enzo
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1moretime
you have to : RESET !
Push POWER and Volume down !
IT goes in update mode !
if you have the update memory card it must be in the UNIT !
then when it finish the update 100% you reset !
when unit restartes it shuld try to update the bluetoth and the navi software but it shuld say CheckSum file error !
Reset !
and it goes in BOOT MENU ! from vhere you choose WinCE
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i use my PMD-B200 with a IVA-B200 , it works great and i can acces IGO , WinCE, Bluetoth, So i can use my IVA-W205 screen with the WinCE like a TABLET BUTT ! my problem the PMD-B200 Memory its 1 root 32 MB and the other root 64MB how can i acces the 4 GB memory ? if i run BLUETOTH and IGO at once it says not enough memory !!!
HOW CAN I ACCES THE 4GB memory ? PLEASE HEALP !
MarkoDaniel said:
you have to : RESET !
Push POWER and Volume down !
IT goes in update mode !
if you have the update memory card it must be in the UNIT !
then when it finish the update 100% you reset !
when unit restartes it shuld try to update the bluetoth and the navi software but it shuld say CheckSum file error !
Reset !
and it goes in BOOT MENU ! from vhere you choose WinCE
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i use my PMD-B200 with a IVA-B200 , it works great and i can acces IGO , WinCE, Bluetoth, So i can use my IVA-W205 screen with the WinCE like a TABLET BUTT ! my problem the PMD-B200 Memory its 1 root 32 MB and the other root 64MB how can i acces the 4 GB memory ? if i run BLUETOTH and IGO at once it says not enough memory !!!
HOW CAN I ACCES THE 4GB memory ? PLEASE HEALP !
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Please how did you had success to let it workattached to a Source.
I am using it with an autoradio Alpine IVA D-106R but after have tried, or to update the Igo8 or to update
a map as i attach it to the sorce i get the voice disappearing.
Please can you help me to do so?
Any help will be really appreciated.
thanks in advace
Enzo
do what i adviced u
i gave u all vhat i did and worked for me try it ! 1 more time i can not acces the 4 gb memory SOMEONE ? noone tryes to get to the bottom of this **** ?
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Did u managed to find a way to get the machine runing ? im sttuck in the same situation eny healp is welcomed thank you
MarkoDaniel said:
i gave u all vhat i did and worked for me try it ! 1 more time i can not acces the 4 gb memory SOMEONE ? noone tryes to get to the bottom of this **** ?
Does it work also when you attach it to the source?
Iget it muted when i attach it to the source.
Are you trying whit an updated Igo8 or just the original?
Finally if you are using an update Igo8 can you pass me the files?
Thanks
Enzo
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ik8ozv said:
MarkoDaniel said:
i gave u all vhat i did and worked for me try it ! 1 more time i can not acces the 4 gb memory SOMEONE ? noone tryes to get to the bottom of this **** ?
Does it work also when you attach it to the source?
Iget it muted when i attach it to the source.
Are you trying whit an updated Igo8 or just the original?
Finally if you are using an update Igo8 can you pass me the files?
Thanks
Enzo
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Enzo, I have a 1 version of this thing, had it for several years and it still works attached to my radio in the car.
I am also willing to give away the audio for a better navigation, but today is the first time I ever find out anything about this device.
Where did you get Igo8, did you use the procedure described in the first 3d?
I have actually 2 blackbirds 1, 1 works in the car, the other one is stuck on update because I had a cd with no code, and was thinking on cracking the one that is "blocked" and keep 2 units in the car.
This is really interesting!!!
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ik8ozv said:
Enzo, I have a 1 version of this thing, had it for several years and it still works attached to my radio in the car.
I am also willing to give away the audio for a better navigation, but today is the first time I ever find out anything about this device.
Where did you get Igo8, did you use the procedure described in the first 3d?
I have actually 2 blackbirds 1, 1 works in the car, the other one is stuck on update because I had a cd with no code, and was thinking on cracking the one that is "blocked" and keep 2 units in the car.
This is really interesting!!!
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I use the PMD-B200 v.2.0 that i do not know if it is the same as the ones you used.
I got the Igo8 from the web and followed the procedure in the first 3rd.
I repeat whichever Igo8 i put in thePMD it works perfectly but since i attach it to the,
the audio goes off.
Plese can you send me maybe in PM the igo that you use?
Thanks
Enzo
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ik8ozv said:
freddy2081 said:
I use the PMD-B200 v.2.0 that i do not know if it is the same as the ones you used.
I got the Igo8 from the web and followed the procedure in the first 3rd.
I repeat whichever Igo8 i put in thePMD it works perfectly but since i attach it to the,
the audio goes off.
Plese can you send me maybe in PM the igo that you use?
Thanks
Enzo
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I didn't do anything to mine, it's a PMD-B100, not even a 200, and as of now is still "stock"
I have to try to play around with the one that is stuck on the update screen and see if I can make anything work on it.
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