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[Q] i747 (AT&T) Galaxy S3. No Rom, No recovery. Odin not recognized by Win7. Screwed?
THREAD CLOSED:Final update made
Solution: JTAG. I have updated the main page for anyone who comes across this in their troubles. Try the advice in this thread. It's good advice. I just couldn't be helped. These guys are smart as ****. Take their advice. Good luck, and good night.
Original post
Alright, I'll give as much info as possible. If anyone can save me from having a $250 paperweight, I would... Well, probably whatever they asked me to. Here it is in a nutshell. I was on AOKP with TWRP recovery. I jump ROMS everyday it seems, so why would today be any different? I boot into TWRP, make a backup, wipe cache, factory reset (data and cache), delvik cache, and then system (here was my mistake). Then I was going to install another ROM when I was suddenly needed by family. In my infinite genius I decided "Oh I'll just shut down without a ROM installed, that'll go well!" and shut the phone down through TWRP options (/facepalm).
Finally, I come back to it and decide "Ok, I'd like to install a ROM now". I boot it up (holding up, home, power), but accidentally let go of home and power instead of just power so it tries to boot. No prob, I just do it again. Now I hold it this time and the trusty "teamwin" splash comes up. But something isn't right. It restarts instead of giving me options. "ok...." I think, and I try it again. Same thing. F**k, I have no recovery... So I go to my last resort. Odin mode. I get into Odin Mode, grab my USB cable and plug in (to my computer with drivers already on it from the toolkit) and! TADA! USB not recognized. That's right. USB. NOT. RECOGNIZED.
Recap
So lets recap:
No ROM
No recovery
Drivers from Toolkit installed
Odin Mode = USB not Recognized in Windows
What I tried
Here is what I have tried (in no particular order)
New USB cable. 3 to be exact.
Different ports. All of them on all of the computers.
Different computers. 2 laptops, 2 desktop. All Win 7 64-bit.
Going into recovery (it bootloops)
Letting it boot. (Does nothing)
Uninstalling and reinstalling drivers
Installing Kies
Installing nothing
"adb devices" (doesn't show up)
Using toolkit (no devices seen)
Manually chosing every driver from "Samsung electronics LTD" that my computer has installed.
Plugging in before starting Odin
Plugging in after starting Odin.
Every combination of "Power cycle, Odin Mode, connect to computer" I can think of
Actually praying to Odin
Crying
Giving up
Gaining Second Wind
Searching Google, XDA and numerous forums extensively.
Making a new thread myself
I would really, REALLY appreciate it if someone, somewhere has ANY idea on how I can flash something ANYTHING to my phone again. Thank you SO much for your time. Honestly. I mean it, thank you. Let me buy you a beer. I'm serious.
Extra Info
Extra Information: The pop up is always the "USB not Recognized" balloon. Device manager comes up with an "Unknown Device" and yellow [!] triangle. Sometimes, under details, I'll see "Code 10: Device could not start". To reiterate, the phone WILL go into Odin Mode. Thanks again.
Conclusion:
Windows GS3Toolkit fails to see it
Windows Kies fails to see it
Windows 7 OS fails to recognize it
Windows adb fails to see it
Linux adb fails to see it
Mac OS X heimdall fails to see it
Mac OS X adb fails to see it
My conclusion: For some reason, my phone is reporting itself incorrectly, with a potentially damaged usb port on the phone.
Solution A: Try to JTAG myself. (NOT RECOMMENDED) Pros: Learning. Cons: Too much to buy and ugh. F that noise.
Solution B: (Chosen path) Send to someone to JTAG it for me. Pros: Fast, easy (for me) Cons: $60
Solution C: Sell the phone. Pros: Potentially less cost (through loss) Cons: Time to sell and buy, jockey for prices, potentially lose my ass.
Solution D: Do nothing. Pros: No more loss, no more work, maybe something will come through. Cons: bricked phone
Kilo__ said:
Alright, I'll give as much info as possible. If anyone can save me from having a $250 paperweight, I would... Well, probably whatever they asked me to. Here it is in a nutshell. I was on AOKP with TWRP recovery. I jump ROMS everyday it seems, so why would today be any different? I boot into TWRP, make a backup, wipe cache, factory reset (data and cache), delvik cache, and then system (here was my mistake). Then I was going to install another ROM when I was suddenly needed by family. In my infinite genius I decided "Oh I'll just shut down without a ROM installed, that'll go well!" and shut the phone down through TWRP options (/facepalm).
Finally, I come back to it and decide "Ok, I'd like to install a ROM now". I boot it up (holding up, home, power), but accidentally let go of home and power instead of just power so it tries to boot. No prob, I just do it again. Now I hold it this time and the trusty "teamwin" splash comes up. But something isn't right. It restarts instead of giving me options. "ok...." I think, and I try it again. Same thing. F**k, I have no recovery... So I go to my last resort. Odin mode. I get into Odin Mode, grab my USB cable and plug in (to my computer with drivers already on it from the toolkit) and! TADA! USB not recognized. That's right. USB. NOT. RECOGNIZED.
So lets recap:
No ROM
No recovery
Drivers from Toolkit installed
Odin Mode = USB not Recognized in Windows
Here is what I have tried (in no particular order)
New USB cable. 3 to be exact.
Different ports. All of them on all of the computers.
Different computers. 2 laptops, 1 desktop. All Win 7 64-bit.
Going into recovery (it bootloops)
Letting it boot. (Does nothing)
Uninstalling and reinstalling drivers
Installing Kies
Installing nothing
"adb devices" (doesn't show up)
Using toolkit (no devices seen)
Manually chosing every driver from "Samsung electronics LTD" that my computer has installed.
Plugging in before starting Odin
Plugging in after starting Odin.
Every combination of "Power cycle, Odin Mode, connect to computer" I can think of
Actually praying to Odin
Crying
Giving up
Gaining Second Wind
Searching Google, XDA and numerous forums extensively.
Making a new thread myself
I would really, REALLY appreciate it if someone, somewhere has ANY idea on how I can flash something ANYTHING to my phone again. Thank you SO much for your time. Honestly. I mean it, thank you. Let me buy you a beer. I'm serious.
Extra Information: The pop up is always the "USB not Recognized" balloon. Device manager comes up with an "Unknown Device" and yellow [!] triangle. Sometimes, under details, I'll see "Code 10: Device could not start". To reiterate, the phone WILL go into Odin Mode. Thanks again.
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Uninstall Kies
Uninstall the Samsung USB Drivers
Run CCleaner
Reboot
Install The Samsung USB Drivers
Go into Download Mode
Open ODIN
Hook up, and see if drivers install and ODIN sees the phone
DirtyOldMan said:
Uninstall Kies
Uninstall the Samsung USB Drivers
Run CCleaner
Reboot
Install The Samsung USB Drivers
Go into Download Mode
Open ODIN
Hook up, and see if drivers install and ODIN sees the phone
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Followed this to the letter. Didn't work. Thanks though! Can I send you money for a beer?
Kilo__ said:
Followed this to the letter. Didn't work. Thanks though! Can I send you money for a beer?
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You could do some research into putting twrp on via adb.....or cwm depending on your preference..... if I remeber correctly you need to download the android sdk... I am sure it tells you on the trwp page though....... I know I have adb'd myself out of some tight spots with my transformer and also my old htc hero... haven't commited to changing the s3 yet though... concept is the same....
http://www.teamw.in/project/twrp2/104
Download - Recovery Image Method (using dd):
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Select the latest .img file from here
Download the above file. Using adb shell or terminal emulator:
su
dd if=/sdcard/recoveryfilename.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p18
Make certain that you get this command right. Typing the wrong number could result in a brick!
After the SU on the PC i copy paste the command.....
Kilo__ said:
Followed this to the letter. Didn't work. Thanks though! Can I send you money for a beer?
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It's cool man... If you want me to look at it, PM me, I can probably fix it...
Gage_Hero said:
You could do some research into putting twrp on via adb.....or cwm depending on your preference..... if I remeber correctly you need to download the android sdk... I am sure it tells you on the trwp page though....... I know I have adb'd myself out of some tight spots with my transformer and also my old htc hero... haven't commited to changing the s3 yet though... concept is the same....
http://www.teamw.in/project/twrp2/104
Download - Recovery Image Method (using dd):
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Select the latest .img file from here
Download the above file. Using adb shell or terminal emulator:
su
dd if=/sdcard/recoveryfilename.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p18
Make certain that you get this command right. Typing the wrong number could result in a brick!
After the SU on the PC i copy paste the command.....
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I'm not sure how this applies. I think this is a good solution except that I can't get it to connect to my computer at all. ADB, ODIN, nor Windows 7 will recognize the device in Odin Mode and I have no ROM or recovery installed, and I can't install anything without getting it to connect. I'll keep this in case I can get something to connect and Odin doesn't work, so thank you!
DirtyOldMan said:
It's cool man... If you want me to look at it, PM me, I can probably fix it...
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I'll talk with you no doubt.
Kilo__ said:
I'm not sure how this applies. I think this is a good solution except that I can't get it to connect to my computer at all. ADB, ODIN, nor Windows 7 will recognize the device in Odin Mode and I have no ROM or recovery installed, and I can't install anything without getting it to connect. I'll keep this in case I can get something to connect and Odin doesn't work, so thank you!
I'll talk with you no doubt.
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to you start a command prompt, open the directory where adb.exe is. Press and hold shift while right clicking in the window, select open command prompt here...... manytimes if you don't do this ... adb isn't going to work for you.....
Once you do this then type devices if you get your device showing up then you can install twrp or cwm.....
When the instructions say to enter a command, highlight it on the webpage and copy then in your command window right click and paste (control V does not work here)
If you use adb to install anything, that file MUST be in the same directory as the adb.exe
Gage_Hero said:
to you start a command prompt, open the directory where adb.exe is. Press and hold shift while right clicking in the window, select open command prompt here...... manytimes if you don't do this ... adb isn't going to work for you.....
Once you do this then type devices if you get your device showing up then you can install twrp or cwm.....
When the instructions say to enter a command, highlight it on the webpage and copy then in your command window right click and paste (control V does not work here)
If you use adb to install anything, that file MUST be in the same directory as the adb.exe
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Well that's the thing. It does not show up in devices. ADB will not recognize the device. I'm fairly knowledgeable with using adb and I have 3 versions on my computer. None of the three (adb.exe adb-toolkit.exe or SOCadb.exe) will view it.
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Have you tried using another computer that has no trace of android drivers or anything else and installed ODIN and drivers from scratch? Also make sure you are using the stock usb cable. Just wondering if you might potentially have conflicting drivers you are not aware of.
aybarrap1 said:
Have you tried using another computer that has no trace of android drivers or anything else and installed ODIN and drivers from scratch? Also make sure you are using the stock usb cable. Just wondering if you might potentially have conflicting drivers you are not aware of.
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No I haven't. I can try to do that too. And I have the cable that came with the phone (but I bought it used). I'll try it tomorrow at work
aybarrap1 said:
Have you tried using another computer that has no trace of android drivers or anything else and installed ODIN and drivers from scratch? Also make sure you are using the stock usb cable. Just wondering if you might potentially have conflicting drivers you are not aware of.
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Kilo__ said:
No I haven't. I can try to do that too. And I have the cable that came with the phone (but I bought it used). I'll try it tomorrow at work
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Tried it. Unrecognized still. I think I may just be f***ed
Kilo__ said:
Tried it. Unrecognized still. I think I may just be f***ed
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So when you get into recovery mode (or attempt to) it just reboots after a few seconds ?
You have the teamwin spleash screen and then it doesn't give you time to select any options ? There's really no harm in formating system because it will just boot into twrp without a recovery. You might have a borked recovery but it seems like more. Samsung cords are crap and like to die randomly so another cord is really worth a shot of course make sure it has data.
When you say odin mode I assume you mean download mode and odin just doesn't light up with a com port showing a device ?
hednik said:
So when you get into recovery mode (or attempt to) it just reboots after a few seconds ?
You have the teamwin spleash screen and then it doesn't give you time to select any options ? There's really no harm in formating system because it will just boot into twrp without a recovery. You might have a borked recovery but it seems like more. Samsung cords are crap and like to die randomly so another cord is really worth a shot of course make sure it has data.
When you say odin mode I assume you mean download mode and odin just doesn't light up with a com port showing a device ?
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No, I don't get any options. "Teamwin" for about 30 seconds. Then black... 5 seconds. Then vibrate twice and then reboot. I think I wiped system, and then TWRP borked as you say. I have used many cords for this.
And yes, the phone goes into Odin mode, but the Odin program doesn't pick it up, neither will ADB and windows says "USB not recognized"
DirtyOldMan said:
Uninstall Kies
Uninstall the Samsung USB Drivers
Run CCleaner
Reboot
Install The Samsung USB Drivers
Go into Download Mode
Open ODIN
Hook up, and see if drivers install and ODIN sees the phone
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Gage_Hero said:
You could do some research into putting twrp on via adb.....or cwm depending on your preference..... if I remeber correctly you need to download the android sdk... I am sure it tells you on the trwp page though....... I know I have adb'd myself out of some tight spots with my transformer and also my old htc hero... haven't commited to changing the s3 yet though... concept is the same....
http://www.teamw.in/project/twrp2/104
Download - Recovery Image Method (using dd):
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Select the latest .img file from here
Download the above file. Using adb shell or terminal emulator:
su
dd if=/sdcard/recoveryfilename.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p18
Make certain that you get this command right. Typing the wrong number could result in a brick!
After the SU on the PC i copy paste the command.....
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Click to collapse
DirtyOldMan said:
It's cool man... If you want me to look at it, PM me, I can probably fix it...
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Gage_Hero said:
to you start a command prompt, open the directory where adb.exe is. Press and hold shift while right clicking in the window, select open command prompt here...... manytimes if you don't do this ... adb isn't going to work for you.....
Once you do this then type devices if you get your device showing up then you can install twrp or cwm.....
When the instructions say to enter a command, highlight it on the webpage and copy then in your command window right click and paste (control V does not work here)
If you use adb to install anything, that file MUST be in the same directory as the adb.exe
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aybarrap1 said:
Have you tried using another computer that has no trace of android drivers or anything else and installed ODIN and drivers from scratch? Also make sure you are using the stock usb cable. Just wondering if you might potentially have conflicting drivers you are not aware of.
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hednik said:
So when you get into recovery mode (or attempt to) it just reboots after a few seconds ?
You have the teamwin spleash screen and then it doesn't give you time to select any options ? There's really no harm in formating system because it will just boot into twrp without a recovery. You might have a borked recovery but it seems like more. Samsung cords are crap and like to die randomly so another cord is really worth a shot of course make sure it has data.
When you say odin mode I assume you mean download mode and odin just doesn't light up with a com port showing a device ?
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I just wanted to say thank you all for the help on this situation. Nothing has turned up with the phone but I'm 99% sure this isn't a driver thing now. I'm gonna face the music and try to find either a Jtag kit somewhere or possibly someone to buy it from me. If anyone has any ideas on this and wants to weigh in, I'll of course attempt their solution, but I am going to try other solutions now. Once the device has been either sold or fixed, I will close this thread and edit my first thread with the solution for others to see. Again, each and every one of you, thank you. Hopefully, I can return the favor some day
Jtag is a little harsh at this point. That's typically reserved for devices that show absolutely zero signs of life.
mrhaley30705 said:
Jtag is a little harsh at this point. That's typically reserved for devices that show absolutely zero signs of life.
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Yea, yea it is but I don't know what else to try. I've browsed forum after forum after forum. Of all the people that have received help this problem (Odin is the only choice and isn't recognized), a total of 0 have had something work for them and most threads die unsuccessful. I partially blame the OPs for their lack of through information and replies, but also to the fact that I believe this is just a case of Bad Luck Brian. To have me mess up with the ROM, TWRP take a nose dive, and ODIN play enigma all at the same time seems like a very unlucky scenario.
It has been 8 days now that I've had no phone. Now, I'm not an important person, but I'd at least like to have the phone number I'm paying for, be usable to me. I am really grateful for all of the help and I don't feel slighted or let down in any way, it's just plain and simple that I want a working phone back. If something comes up here before I remedy the situation myself, I'll be sure to let y'all know how it goes, but I'm at the point where I want a usable phone. Again, thank you all for help you have provided and the time you've put into my issue.
Do you have a friend/colleague that also had an s3? Try their computer if you do. They should have the proper drivers installed, so Odin should work. This is the last idea I have. Also, check your pm.
mrhaley30705 said:
Do you have a friend/colleague that also had an s3? Try their computer if you do. They should have the proper drivers installed, so Odin should work. This is the last idea I have. Also, check your pm.
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Ah, yes. Actually, one of my posts (probably the main one) I bring up 2 laptops and 1 desktop being used, one of the laptops was his. He has an S3 (he's actually the one that pushed me towards getting one). It was the first one with this problem, as I was at his house when it all happened.
I saw that all of your attempted solutions were with a win 7 machine. Have you given using a Linux environment any thought? No drivers to worry about, and if adb will recognize it you can push a recovery, as mentioned earlier
mrhaley30705 said:
I saw that all of your attempted solutions were with a win 7 machine. Have you given using a Linux environment any thought? No drivers to worry about, and if adb will recognize it you can push a recovery, as mentioned earlier
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I haven't. Is there an easy guide on how to do this or how to get adb on linux?
Hello,
I have tried to install cm11 on my ouya with the result that I got only a black screen now.
ADB says that the ouya is offline!
Is there any trick to get in fastboot?
Did you have any type of recovery installed? Might be too late, but remember you need to have Bootmenu installed first, if you did, then it should be fixable. If it doesn't work...pretty sure Target sells OUYA in-store for like $35. Their website says $89, but the last few times I've been there they were $35-40.
brandogg said:
Did you have any type of recovery installed? Might be too late, but remember you need to have Bootmenu installed first, if you did, then it should be fixable. If it doesn't work...pretty sure Target sells OUYA in-store for like $35. Their website says $89, but the last few times I've been there they were $35-40.
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Hey,
thank you for your answer!
I had cwm installed and was in cwm before! then i did something wrong
Your tip with a new ouye is no help for me, because I am from germany.
Here costs the ouya 99€ that are nearly 135$.
You need to have CWM installed, then OUYA BootMenu, then CM11. When you say ADB tells you the OUYA is offline, I assume you were doing the ADB TCP connection before. Does Windows detect anything when you have your OUYA plugged in to your computer? Does Device Manager show "OUYA (or OUYA 1.1)" with a yellow exclamation point? If not, then you're probably hosed - but, I believe their rooting policy is pretty laxed, you may want to see if it would be worth sending it in for a repair/replacement if you can't get it started.
Anyway, if it does show up in Device Manager, then you need to modify the USB driver (there are several guides, including on this forum), disable driver signing if necessary, and you should be able to get fastboot to work (assuming you're in this situation).
Hi! Never used adb over tcp! Cwm was installed... i was in cwm and tried to install cm11 over adb... since this its bricked! I have bought my ouya on ebay and have no invoice... so there is no warranty!
The ouya is shown up as adp device... tried the other ones in the driver package i have got... it worked before this crash!
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Does it show up as actually connected though? If it does, then the recovery partition should still be there (I can't imagine CM11 includes a recovery partition, otherwise we wouldn't need BootMenu it seems to me). If it does then adb reboot recovery should work, if you can get to recovery then you're golden.
What did you mean with connected though? if it is shown up in device manager? Yes it is!
I only see a blank screen on tv!
So if you type adb devices does it show up as connected? If it does, try adb reboot recovery.
brandogg said:
So if you type adb devices does it show up as connected? If it does, try adb reboot recovery.
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Hi,
the device is shown up with its device ID as offline!
adb reboot brings: error device offline!
This may help
ibaxx said:
Hello,
I have tried to install cm11 on my ouya with the result that I got only a black screen now.
ADB says that the ouya is offline!
Is there any trick to get in fastboot?
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Found an unbrick method it works as long as adb is on and clockworkmod is accessible,i saw your post and i uploaded my guide just so take a luck if you have had no joy,it has a tool to get if adb is not working for xp so you could try that if your on xp and only get OUYA? showing in device manager,this was my problem and this is something i figured out alone,i couldn't edit anything in ini files to make it work as adb device,but this tool saved my @ss.It took 48hrs of painstaking scouring the net to fix the device, i had put boot menu on but the console had been destroyed playing after showing red on normal boot,nobody gives the details anywhere i find in laymans to apply the cynogenmod firmware, someone should put one up on xda that has simple laymans step by step points to follow on setting it up,i got it on just would not boot past the logo for cynogenmod firmware?And online nobody has written a laymans tutorial infact only guide i found is the most uninformative and convoluted tutorial i have ever seen before.
Looks like I bricked my fireTV Stick today.
What i did: After i updated to 5.2.1.0 I rooted with Kingo Root. I checked if everything was still running fine, which was the case.
Then i removed Kingo Root App and the superuser app that came with Kingo Root. I installed Chainfires latest supersu.apk which did not work (immediately crashed after start). Then i downloaded older version v1.97 of chainfires supersu. This version did not crash directly after starting it. It asked to update the su binary, which I accepted. Unfortunately it did not seem to work, that's why i rebooted the stick after some minutes.
Now it stucks at the "fireTV stick" logo.
Connection to adb works if i connect the Stick to my PC.
Is there anything i can try? Is there a way to factory reset via adb or anything like that?
Bierfreund said:
Looks like I bricked my fireTV Stick today.
What i did: After i updated to 5.2.1.0 I rooted with Kingo Root. I checked if everything was still running fine, which was the case.
Then i removed Kingo Root App and the superuser app that came with Kingo Root. I installed Chainfires latest supersu.apk which did not work (immediately crashed after start). Then i downloaded older version v1.97 of chainfires supersu. This version did not crash directly after starting it. It asked to update the su binary, which I accepted. Unfortunately it did not seem to work, that's why i rebooted the stick after some minutes.
Now it stucks at the "fireTV stick" logo.
Connection to adb works if i connect the Stick to my PC.
Is there anything i can try? Is there a way to factory reset via adb or anything like that?
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Connect your fire stick to a windows pc/laptop. (i used windows 10 64bit)
Let the drivers install.
Download the windows version of Kingo root.
Click root, try this a couple of times (it probably will fail and stick at 70 percent)
unplug the stick and try again, when it hits 70 percent again plug your hdmi lead in (already connected to tv)
It should root and write back the correct su files.
If you want to unroot, install kingo and super user again on the fire stick then either use the unroot feature in super user app (you will have to purchase mouse toggle for fire tv, if you havent got it already to navigate to the 3 little dots menu icon top right corner)
Or re plug it into windows pc/laptop and unroot through the windows tool.
Worked! Did not know, that there's also an windows application for Kingo root.
So it's better to not use another superuser app when rooting the fireTV (stick) with Kingo root?
Thanks sconnyuk. I have a bricked Stick from the Feb. KingRoot -> SuperSUMe disaster. Tried a lot of things, no luck.
But the Windows KingoRoot worked on the first try. (No 70% stoppage or anything.) I now have a root shell over adb. I'm going to wait on a rooted ROM to get it back to a normal state, but at least now I have hope.
Bierfreund said:
Worked! Did not know, that there's also an windows application for Kingo root.
So it's better to not use another superuser app when rooting the fireTV (stick) with Kingo root?
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Just use Kingo roots superuser. Im going to try a few different su versions later see if I have any luck.
At the moment any other than kingoroots will brick, (caun unbrick if in this situation so I guess anyome can try)
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ftgftg said:
Thanks sconnyuk. I have a bricked Stick from the Feb. KingRoot -> SuperSUMe disaster. Tried a lot of things, no luck.
But the Windows KingoRoot worked on the first try. (No 70% stoppage or anything.) I now have a root shell over adb. I'm going to wait on a rooted ROM to get it back to a normal state, but at least now I have hope.
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No need to wait. Try this guide ive put together, just do it over usb. Cant see why I wouldnt work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/development/fire-tv-stick-downgrade-firestarter-3-2-t3399298
sconnyuk said:
Connect your fire stick to a windows pc/laptop. (i used windows 10 64bit)
Let the drivers install.
Download the windows version of Kingo root.
Click root, try this a couple of times (it probably will fail and stick at 70 percent)
unplug the stick and try again, when it hits 70 percent again plug your hdmi lead in (already connected to tv)
It should root and write back the correct su files.
If you want to unroot, install kingo and super user again on the fire stick then either use the unroot feature in super user app (you will have to purchase mouse toggle for fire tv, if you havent got it already to navigate to the 3 little dots menu icon top right corner)
Or re plug it into windows pc/laptop and unroot through the windows tool.
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Thanks for the tutorial. But it doesn't work for me. I have and old fire stick TV with 5.0.5 that I bricked with KingRoot (not Kingo) -> SuperSUMe. I tried to follow your steps and KingoRoot goes to 100% at the first time. But when I connect the stick to my PC it's still stucks at the FireTV Logo . I don't know if I followed some step wrong.
PS: Sorry for my bad english.
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Thanks for the tutorial. But it doesn't work for me. I have and old fire stick TV with 5.0.5 that I bricked with KingRoot (not Kingo) -> SuperSUMe. I tried to follow your steps and KingoRoot goes to 100% at the first time. But when I connect the stick to my PC it's still stucks at the FireTV Logo . I don't know if I followed some step wrong.
PS: Sorry for my bad english.
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Try multiple times with Kingoroot, You can try windows version of KING root multiple times also.
Failing this you can try to run both programs simultaneously.
Good luck
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Try multiple times with Kingoroot, You can try windows version of KING root multiple times also.
Failing this you can try to run both programs simultaneously.
Good luck
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It finally works!!!...... almost
Now the sticks pass the fire tv logo, but takes a lot of time to open the firestarter menu. And I can't do anything there. The remote doesn't response. I try to do a factory reset to the stick but I can't find the way . Thank you anyway. At least I can escape from the loop at boot.
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It finally works!!!...... almost
Now the sticks pass the fire tv logo, but takes a lot of time to open the firestarter menu. And I can't do anything there. The remote doesn't response. I try to do a factory reset to the stick but I can't find the way . Thank you anyway. At least I can escape from the loop at boot.
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Try removing the batteries and re-pairing the remote, try this multiple times as it has happened to me before.
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Try removing the batteries and re-pairing the remote, try this multiple times as it has happened to me before.
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I thought that I had edited my previous post but it seems that it didn't save the changes. Finally I could restore my fire stick following your downgrade guide. I reinstalled the firmware 5.0.5 and everything works perfect. Thanks a million!!!
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I thought that I had edited my previous post but it seems that it didn't save the changes. Finally I could restore my fire stick following your downgrade guide. I reinstalled the firmware 5.0.5 and everything works perfect. Thanks a million!!!
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Your welcome.
Glad I could help.
Hi,
I tried to install XPosed to be able to install Google Play store later following a guide I successfully used on my rooted FTV 1st gen.
XPosed installation went fine but probably I deleted some user file I had not and box started checking for updates. I stopped the process in the meantime. Nothing seems to be affected. Root is still in place and firmware version is still 5.0.5. BUT each time a reboot my stick now it asks to pair my remote, then asks me to choose a language as it wants to complete an update. Just when I goes further it says that it has not been possibile to complete update. I tried to "downgrade" with a clear 5.0.5 firmware zip. It went fine but I had to disable OTA again to avoid the online updates. So it still fails to check for updates and each time it tries to reinitialize update process. basically default amazon launcher doesnt work anymore but it's not a issue cause I have Firestarter 3.3 which works fine. The worst issue is that each time I reboot it asks for rempote pairing and I can't use amazon video anymore. Basically I'd like to remove this "checking for update" process and return to my actual rom. Is that possibile?
Thanks.
puppinoo.
Hoping someone can help me out. My stick is bricked. I loaded up the Kingoroot and tried to run the steps to recover it. However i dont think it's recognize the device since kingoroot is stuck at the loading page. Which driver files did you install for the fire stick? thanks.
Bricked fire stick- any advice
I tried to transfer a ustv4.0 APK zip file to the firestick via USB after some extensive instructions on YouTube video but found that using Google Drive with ES File Explorer would be the quick and easy method. I also got lost in the instructions after downloading ADB and fire starter. When plugging the firestick back into the TV to go the ES file route, the firestick doesn't even show up on the TV now- the HDMI port that I had used would display 'fire stick' and display the HDMI port #, now nothing shows up and then the screen times out quickly as if nothing is plugged in. When I first plugged in the firestick to my windows 10 laptop, I checked the drives and it didn't show up although I could hear a USB connection chime as if something just was connected and if I disconnected it, it had a disconnect chime as well. I did see in device manager before unplugging it that it had shown up as 'unknown device' towards the bottom land labeled as AFTM. Can anyone tell me what they think may have gone wrong and why it no longer shows up on the TV or why it's now not starting up for that matter? Any help would be appreciated.
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I tried to transfer a ustv4.0 APK zip file to the firestick via USB after some extensive instructions on YouTube video but found that using Google Drive with ES File Explorer would be the quick and easy method. I also got lost in the instructions after downloading ADB and fire starter. When plugging the firestick back into the TV to go the ES file route, the firestick doesn't even show up on the TV now- the HDMI port that I had used would display 'fire stick' and display the HDMI port #, now nothing shows up and then the screen times out quickly as if nothing is plugged in. When I first plugged in the firestick to my windows 10 laptop, I checked the drives and it didn't show up although I could hear a USB connection chime as if something just was connected and if I disconnected it, it had a disconnect chime as well. I did see in device manager before unplugging it that it had shown up as 'unknown device' towards the bottom land labeled as AFTM. Can anyone tell me what they think may have gone wrong and why it no longer shows up on the TV or why it's now not starting up for that matter? Any help would be appreciated.
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Hi did you find a solution. I have the same problem.
Thx
Basically I want to downgrade from rbox's pre-rooted version 5.2.7.2_r1 back to 5.2.6.3_r1.
I use ADB via Windows 10 with no problems, I've access to SU, FireTV is rooted and TWRP 3.0.0.7 is installed.
In the past I would just boot into TWRP recovery and select any of rbox' pre-rooted rom and hit install/upgrade and all went well since 2016.
This is the first time trying to downgrade, TWRP recovery went well 5.2.6.3_r1 got installed, but no way to login into my Amazon A/C (kept saying login/password combinations not correct, but they were 100% correct).
One thing interesting is before I could see my bootloader as fully unlocked as "[email protected]", but now I see its only partial unlocked ([email protected])?
Update:
It seems like I do have rooo#bueller? from this picture after typing adb shell and su?
Any help will be much appreciated!
In regards to your original post on the bueller thread - have you tried re-enabling updates? A few other members here found that disabling updates on their sloane (see here) stopped them from using particular apps on 5.2.7.2 until they re-enabled updates, allowed the Fire TV to download updated apk files & then disabled them again
If that doesn't work: I had a Fire TV recently that I thought it was blacklisted by Amazon (wouldn't log in with the correct details), but turns out it was just never registered as a AFTV on their end & was being refused a connection. This obviously won't be your case, but something similar could be happening, so I would suggest you remove the device from your account (here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/hz/mycd/myx#/home/devices/1) & then attempt to log in again - if this doesn't work, maybe talk to Amazon via their live chat, ask them to register your device to your account manually (they'll happily do it) & attempt login again after a hour or two (that worked for me).
edit: I've just seen your latest post about bricking - general rule of thumb (as far as I'm aware) is that anything after 5.2.6.8 shouldn't be rolled back to pre-5.2.6.8 due to changes within the partitions, therefore, if you do so, you essentially brick your device after reboot as the prerooted zip only flashes boot/preloader/LK, then at boot, the rpmb checks to see if all those files match & when they don't, sends the device into a bootloop. If this was a Fire TV 2, you'd be in luck, but unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any way to unbrick a Fire TV 1 on the latest software yet?
If you're bootloader unlocked, you might be able to get into fastboot & fix it from there, but I'm not clued up on the Fire TV 1 bl unlock unfortunately.
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I've just seen your latest post about bricking - general rule of thumb (as far as I'm aware) is that anything after 5.2.6.8 shouldn't be rolled back to pre-5.2.6.8
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Completely right for the second gen fireTV :good:
But the first gen fireTV isn't a MTK SOC device, the SOC is from broadcom with different booting stages. In case of a rooted box, you can up- & downgrade to any fireOS 5 version if you like.
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there doesn't seem to be any way to unbrick a Fire TV 1 on the latest software yet?
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There is a way, but it requires hardware (low voltage emmc adapter, a special sdcard reader, small soldering iron) and at least some soldering skills.
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If you're bootloader unlocked, you might be able to get into fastboot & fix it from there, but I'm not clued up on the Fire TV 1 bl unlock unfortunately.[/B]
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Some guys have tried it, it's all in the bueller prerooted rom thread.
Hi Daniel, thanks for taking the time to write.
Yes my bootloader is fully unlocked, and my unit is rooted with TWRP installed.
Hi Sus_i, where are you at? If you can try the "hardware (low voltage emmc adapter, a special sdcard reader, small soldering iron)" thing on my FireTV, I will compensate you for your time and ship the unit to you (I'm near the border, so US/CAN addresses are fine with me).
Ok, this is what happened in my case:
My FireTV 1 background - bought directly from Amazon, rooted back in 2015/2016, bootloader fully unlocked and TWRP installed in 2017.
1) Was running on rbox's pre-rooted 5.2.6.3_r1
2) Updated to rbox's 5.2.7.2_r1 and discovered that upon resuming/waking up from sleep the unit always return to the Home page instead of whatever page/Tab you left it as in 5.2.6.3_r1, also Alexa and few other APPS were automatically installed in 5.2.7.2_r1.
I only use 4 APPS on my FireTV, an APK from my IPTV (90 %), VLC to watch videos from my own local Network (5%), CX_File Explorer to move/transfer files (3%) and NewPipe (alternative to YouTube) (2%).
rbox’s pre-rooted 5.2.6.3_r1 is perfect for my needs above, as I NEVER need to see the Amazon Home screen or any ads. Only the 1st time after a power off/on that I would ever see the Home page and from there on I would navigate to the “Settings” Tab – “Applications” Tab – “Manage Applications” and I only see a few pre-installed APPS from Amazon and my 4 APPS above and going to sleep mode and waking up sleep mode always stays in the “Manage Applications” Tab and NOT Amazon Home page as in 5.2.7.2_r1.
3) Flashing back from 5.2.7.2_r1 to 5.2.6.3_r1/5.2.7.0_r1/5.2.6.9_r1 to no avail because I would always get an error stating Login ID/password combinations were in errors (Login ID/password were 100% dead correct), also the Developer Options would also no longer showing under My Device/My FireTV Tab. Amazon FireTV support would be quick to add the FireTV under my profile (because they could see I bought it directly from them back in 2014 and they also could see my serial numbers and all along I was the only one registered for this unit), but still no go, so I tried to de-register/re-register again during all the testing and Amazon must had added the FireTV to my profile at least 10 times and in the end it escalated to the point they credited my account $25.00 (this is usually the price of the FireTV Stick 4K during sales/promotions) and also at the same time sent out a FireTV Stick 4K to me FOC.
I’m not a FireTV expert, but just an ordinary user with some sys/programming backgrounds during my early years. I reckon Amazon must had implemented some sort of hard coded checks either on their side (registration) or in the firmware since 5.2.6.3_r1.
4) So now my unit is flashed with 5.2.6.3_r1 and couldn’t get passed the registration screen, what do I do? I re-flash it to 5.2.7.2_r1 and bingo, everything is back to normal again and don’t even need to register the unit. (For testing purposes, I removed my A/C from the unit and re-register again and this time Login ID/password got no errors).
5) Thinking that back from Windows 98SE/2000/XP Pro/W7 Pro and now Windows 10 Pro, no matter what kind of messed I created, I would just format the drive/write zeros and re-image (Ghost image Back-ups) and everything would be normal again. My fireTV is rooted, bootloader is fully unlocked and TWRP installed, I told myself what’s there to afraid of , so I tried to re-flash 5.2.7.2_r1 to 5.2.6.3_r1/5.2.7.0_r1 and it would always back to the registration error and now double icons under settings, lol.
6) I suspect during one of the re-flash I made a mistake of after clearing/wipe Cache/Dalvik, instead of the default reboot, I ESC back out and redo the install/re-flash thinking that might get rids of all the leftovers that cause the double icons under Settings.
7) Now I’m left with the white Amazon logo on my TV screen and white pulsing light on the unit itself. I like to think that the motherboard or the power unit are still alive, just that the software part of it got messed up by ME big time!
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Now I’m left with the white Amazon logo on my TV screen and white pulsing light on the unit itself
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Like DanielF50 said, as a first step you may try to connect with fastboot, use an usb a-to-a cable and run: fastboot devices
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Completely right for the second gen fireTV :good:
But the first gen fireTV isn't a MTK SOC device, the SOC is from broadcom with different booting stages. In case of a rooted box, you can up- & downgrade to any fireOS 5 version if you like.
There is a way, but it requires hardware (low voltage emmc adapter, a special sdcard reader, small soldering iron) and at least some soldering skills.
Some guys have tried it, it's all in the bueller prerooted rom thread.
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Good information to know, thanks Sus_i :good:
Reading Matt's response, it looks hopeful that he should be able to fastboot into the device to recover it then.
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Like DanielF50 said, as a first step you may try to connect with fastboot, use an usb a-to-a cable and run: fastboot devices
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OK, I'll get the USB A to A cable, how does one run the fastboot?
Once I connect the FireTV to my PC using the USB A- A cable, what will happen? do I need to install anything on my Windows 10 to run fastboot?
Update:
OK, dfound out I already have fastboot in my platform-tools folder,
From AFTNews:
Enter the command:
fastboot devices
If your computer has correctly detected your Fire TV, you will see a series of numbers followed by the word “fastboot” after entering the above command.
Download the latest version of ClockworkMod custom recovery from AFTVnews.com/recovery
Rename the file you just downloaded to “recovery.img”
Enter the command:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
(Be sure to replacerecovery.img with the full path to the file you just renamed)
Enter the command:
fastboot boot recovery.img
(Be sure to replacerecovery.img with the full path to the file you just renamed)
Your Fire TV should now boot into ClockworkMod recovery. Proceed to follow the steps in the next section below labeled “Resetting with Recovery Mode”.
Resetting with Recovery Mode
If you can successfully enter ClockworkMod recovery, then follow the below steps to reset your Fire TV, regardless of what state it is in and what has been done to it. You can also follow these steps if, for example, you want to update your ROM but aren’t sure if you’ve unlocked your bootloader or aren’t sure if you’ve installed the boot menu.
[OPTIONAL] From within ClockworkMod, select the option to “wipe data/factory reset”. This will delete all of your settings and user data. It is an optional step, but is recommended.
From within ClockworkMod, select the option to “wipe cache partition”.
Follow my guide to install pre-rooted Stock ROM version 51.1.4.0_514006420 updated. Note, you are NOT installing the latest pre-rooted ROM on purpose. Do NOT skip ahead and install the latest pre-rooted ROM.
Restart your Fire TV. You should be able to boot normally.
Follow my guide to install BusyBox.
Follow my guide to unlock your bootloader.
Follow my guide to install the boot menu.
Follow my guide to install the latest pre-rooted ROM.
Do I need to redo all these? I already have TWRP. If I'm to do the above I would end up with both TWRP recovery and ClockworkMod custom recovery, right?
Once done, do I actually install the 51.1.4.0_514006420 updated or 5.2.6.3_r1?
Pardon my ignorance!
Matt_7 said:
OK, I'll get the USB A to A cable, how does one run the fastboot?
Once I connect the FireTV to my PC using the USB A- A cable, what will happen? do I need to install anything on my Windows 10 to run fastboot?
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Yep, bundled with android-sdk so runs just like you'd use adb, but obviously has a different purpose/commands - I should think there would be info on the full bootloader unlock thread on how to use it to recover from a bootloop using fastboot?
Matt_7 said:
Do I need to redo all these? I already have TWRP. If I'm to do the above I would end up with both TWRP recovery and ClockworkMod custom recovery, right?
Once done, do I actually install the 51.1.4.0_514006420 updated or 5.2.6.3_r1?
Pardon my ignorance!
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You can try to boot the recovery.img (boot... not flash!)
This means, grab the latest prerooted, extract the recovery.img into the fastboot/adb folder. Check/connect with fastboot devices and run: fastboot boot recovery.img
In case this fails, you may carefully follow the guide you've posted above.
Sus_i said:
You can try to boot the recovery.img (boot... not flash!)
This means, grab the latest prerooted, extract the recovery.img into the fastboot/adb folder. Check/connect with fastboot devices and run: fastboot boot recovery.img
In case this fails, you may carefully follow the guide you've posted above.
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OK, will try and report back.
I actually made a copy of "bueller-twrp_3.0.0-7.img", "bootmenu.img" and "recovery.img" which I copied from the FireTV before flashing, I reckon I can use the "recovery.img"?
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OK, will try and report back.
I actually made a copy of "bueller-twrp_3.0.0-7.img", "bootmenu.img" and "recovery.img" which I copied from the FireTV before flashing, I reckon I can use the "recovery.img"?
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I would try to boot bueller-twrp_3.0.0-7.img and recovery.img
Update 3:
Gosh, I got it to the point of checking for updates and unplugged the internet cable hoping to issue via adb to block OTA, and the FireTV detected no internet connection and asked to unplug the power for a few minutes and I did that, but now no whatsoever light on the FIreTV itself, don't tell me its now dead not because I bricked it the other day, but because of the power unit?
Tested the power adapter with a multimeter, got 6.18V (6.25 is printed on the power adapter), since 6.18V is close to 6.25V, its not the power adapter right?
Update 2:
OK, figured out I could remove the USB A to A cable and use the USB port on the FireTV to connect my Logitech K400 ! (see, I'm not a very smart person!)
- I deleted "Data"
- Tried to wipe cache and got a message "No OS installed"
- No choice but to select install option and install 5.2.7.2_r1
- Now at least I'm seeing the Colourful Amazon logo again, and now its doing the "Optimizing system storage and applications...", wish me luck!
Update 1:
Just received my USB A to A Male to Male (LOL) cable today.
Don't know to jump for joy or cry!
- When I typed "fastbbot devices", I got exactly from "AFTNews - If your computer has correctly detected your Fire TV, you will see a series of numbers followed by the word “fastboot” after entering the above command.", I got the screen showing me my device/serial number and the word fastboot, so I think its working!
- I then typed "fastboot boot bueller-twrp_3.0.0-7.img" and the white Amazon logo was gone I was back in TWRP screen, but I couldn't do anything, the USB port is already used by the USB A to A cable (USB splitter couldn't work either), I see the mouse pointer, but how to move it to reboot/wipe/install/advance etc?
Mayday, help!
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Pull all the plugs from the box + tv and try again...
6.xx v seems ok. Any voltage drops if you connect a device, light bulb or anything like that?
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: Any voltage drops if you connect a device, light bulb or anything like that?
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Thanks Sus_i.
How to connect the light bulb to test, and connect from where to where?
I couldn't believe what a stupid move I did by pulling the internet cable and now I want to beat myself so bad...
I've a few power adapters from router/modem etc lying around, will I damage the Fire TV if I'm to try them out?
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Thanks Sus_i.
How to connect the light bulb to test, and connect from where to where?
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Have you tried to pull all plugs, reconnect only the power supply... what does the LED?
There is an ifixit guide on how to disassemble the fireTV. In case you open the box, measure the voltage IN inside the fireTV at power on. You can measure VDD 3.3v and VDDQ 1.8v too, next to the emmc, see the picture here.
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I couldn't believe what a stupid move I did by pulling the internet cable and now I want to beat myself so bad...
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That shouldn'd harm anything. In case of a failure, the fireTv should blink yellow.
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I've a few power adapters from router/modem etc lying around, will I damage the Fire TV if I'm to try them out?
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You can test other adapters, someone on this forum said that he used an 5v usb supply, but for a 'stable use' you need a big one... regards the amps...
I think a power supply between 7v to 5v works fine, probably no damages at all.
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Have you tried to pull all plugs, reconnect only the power supply... what does the LED?
There is an ifixit guide on how to disassemble the fireTV. In case you open the box, measure the voltage IN inside the fireTV at power on. You can measure VDD 3.3v and VDDQ 1.8v too, next to the emmc, see the picture here.
That shouldn'd harm anything. In case of a failure, the fireTv should blink yellow.
You can test other adapters, someone on this forum said that he used an 5v usb supply, but for a 'stable use' you need a big one... regards the amps...
I think a power supply between 7v to 5v works fine, probably no damages at all.
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OK, will try to open up the FireTV.
No light/LED when plugging only the power adapter to the FIreTV, already tried different power outlets throughout the house
Come to the worst, will this https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66961740&postcount=676 help?
Thanks again.
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Come to the worst, will this https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66961740&postcount=676 help?
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Worst case is a broken fireTV.
Don't follow this guide, you lose your unlock... apart from that, the download link from the guide is dead
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Worst case is a broken fireTV.
Don't follow this guide, you lose your unlock... apart from that, the download link from the guide is dead
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OK, will forget about that!
Once I got the FireTV opened, will take some pixs and report back!
OK, here are the pixs.
Now that I look at the Multimeter, I'm not sure I'm using it correctly. Bought this few years ago (just in case I need to test my car's battery).
AT the bottom of the multimeter, there are 3 holes, one red on each side and black hole in the center, which two am I supposed to use?
I tested the power adapter again with multimeter using the center black and red on the right, and I'm reading 4.2V?
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Worst case is a broken fireTV.
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Would it be possible just by looking at the board if its kaput?
So instead of spamming the forums, I thought I would just make on consolidated post asking for help
Background: I have suffered from a visual disability for over 20 years. There are many facets to it but the one that is relevant here is that some displays trigger instant eye strain and migraines when I view them. I have been to over 27 specialists in 7 states over 2 decades and no one has been able to find out exactly what us causing it. All we know is the issue isn't really caused by the display, but what is driving the display, and seem to be related to colors somehow.
Anyway, I ordered a 4k Fire Stick on July 15, 2019. SO looking at https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...is-prerooted-stock-images-6-2-8-0_r1.3983091/, it looks like my Fire Stick came with OS 6.2.6.5_r1. I do not recall it ever asking for updates before this, so I do not know if it ever updated to 6.2.7.7_r1 (which is the last update prior to the UI update). I would like to flash OS 6.2.6.5_r1 which is the closest ROM I can find to what was on the stick when I first bought it and it worked.
I also have an unopened 4k Fire Stick I purchased on Nov 29, 2019. This is still sitting new in the box and have never been opened or plugged into anything.
So here is where my questions start
General Questions
1. Are the sticks I ordered the "mantis" one? So I would look for "mantis" instructions for working with it? Can someone provide a stock Mantis 6.2.6.5 ROM, I really don't care too much about being rooted honestly.
Questions for upgraded stick (that I cannot use right now due to disability)
1. Is there any hope for this device? As I understand it there is an eFuse blown during the 6.8 upgrade preventing downgrades.
2. Is there any work going on that will allow that blown eFuse to be bypassed (like a modified 6.2.6.x ROM that doesn't check the eFuse status)?
Questions for unopened stick
1. Is there any way to block the updates while setting up the device (prevent auto update)?
- 1a: I know there is a "BlockUpdate.apk" that can be sideloaded and run, but to do that I would need to have the device up and running to enable ADB Debugging and connect to the device, so I would have had to go though the initial setup, which will update the device, making it to late to install the APK and block the update
- 1b: I know you can also install Remote ADB Shell on the stick and use the PM disable user commands to block OTA updates, but again, you can't get to the point where you can turn on ADB Debugging and install those apps before going though the initial setup, which will update the device, making it to late to block the updates
2. I saw there were some methods where people were using their routers to block access to certain Amazon and/or akamai servers so you could activate the stick but the update check would fail, but all those guides seem to be for Fire TV's, not Fire Sticks, and are all from 2016-ish. Do these still work?
Questions for Rooting device
1. I saw the aluminum foil trick, but all the guides I see seem to start after a point where the device has been activated, which would have forced the update and would be to late for me. Can you root BEFORE the device is activated?
2. How do you connect a Fire Stick to a PC to allow the Linux scripts to see it and root it? I can't connect to the TV and then to my wifi, cause once it connects to wifi, it auto updates, and we're stuck again.
So can anyone help me out? My end goal is to have my upgraded Fire Stick downgraded to the 6.2.6.5 version and will NEVER install a system update, and/or have my unopened FireStick activated and working and NEVER install an update. I don't really care about any enhanced "debloating" or anything after that.
Many thanks up front.
Yes, you can try the unlock infront of the setup, that is the way to go.
But I would test your ruined stick first, it doesn't harm anything... maybe big A. messed the efuse burning up, who knows. Short the stick and in case you can't see 'phone' mode in lsusb, the efuse is burned as expected.
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Yes, you can try the unlock infront of the setup, that is the way to go.
But I would test your ruined stick first, it doesn't harm anything... maybe big A. messed the efuse burning up, who knows. Short the stick and in case you can't see 'phone' mode in lsusb, the efuse is burned as expected.
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Thanks, how would I unlock the device and block the updates without having to go through through Fire Stick setup (which would force the update)
As I understand it, I could
1 - Boot up the modified Linux iso in a VM
2 - Open the Fire Stick and use the aluminum foil to short it
At that point, how do I connect the Fire Stick to my PC? If I plug it into my TV and connect it to my network, it's going to auto update.
Once the above quesiton is answered, I could then run the scripts and get root and get twrp via the scripts in the Linux iso. But at that point, what would I flash in TWRP to block the OTA updates? I would not be anle to get to any point that allows me to enable ADB debugging without going through the Fire Stick setup, which would force the OTA updates
The thing is really easy.
Older 4k sticks are vulnerable to the current kamakiri exploit, and newer sticks are not.
Amaz. fixed with 6.2.8.0 the bootrom feature used in kamakiri, so any kamakiri vulnerable stick gets fixed with that update... Only way to prevent this fix, is to unlock it first, then the OTA updates can't harm anything.
The unlock protects them. In this case the update is fine...
If you want to try the unlock, you need to follow the kamakiri OP.
You don't need a TV or a network connection for your stick.
You need the usb cable and some tinfoil.
No one knows if your stick is vulnerable or not.
You may check this in a terminal with the lsusb command, while shorted (see the unlock OP for details).
If you can keep the stick with the short in 'phone' mode (look in lsusb a few times instead of running the bootrom-step), you're lucky and the unlock may work.
Sus_i said:
The thing is really easy.
Older 4k sticks are vulnerable to the current kamakiri exploit, and newer sticks are not.
Amaz. fixed with 6.2.8.0 the bootrom feature used in kamakiri, so any kamakiri vulnerable stick gets fixed with that update... Only way to prevent this fix, is to unlock it first, then the OTA updates can't harm anything.
The unlock protects them. In this case the update is fine...
If you want to try the unlock, you need to follow the kamakiri OP.
You don't need a TV or a network connection for your stick.
You need the usb cable and some tinfoil.
No one knows if your stick is vulnerable or not.
You may check this in a terminal with the lsusb command, while shorted (see the unlock OP for details).
If you can keep the stick with the short in 'phone' mode (look in lsusb a few times instead of running the bootrom-step), you're lucky and the unlock may work.
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I thought even if you were unlocked, once you were auto updated, the eFuse is blown and you can't downgrade?
FOr the old Fire Stick (that has never been upgraded so it should be fine) once I unlock the device and flash TWRP, what would I flash to prevent the OTA update from taking place during the setup of the device?
emkorial said:
I thought even if you were unlocked, once you were auto updated, the eFuse is blown and you can't downgrade?
FOr the old Fire Stick (that has never been upgraded so it should be fine) once I unlock the device and flash TWRP, what would I flash to prevent the OTA update from taking place during the setup of the device?
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No, unlocked = safe.
There isn't a reason to mess with the initial update, as long as you've done the unlock successfully and TWRP is in place. Then you can downgrade anytime later to whatever OS version, if you like.
After you did the unlock, flash magisk, do the initial setup, enable adb, you can use adb shell commands to disable the OTA updates.
You don't need a TV or a network connection for your stick.
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How do I interact with TWRP if it isn't plugged into the TV?? What do you see the TWRP screen on to navigate it??
See post two and three in the unlock thread...
Most people use always TWRP commandline via ADB.
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See post two and three in the unlock thread...
Most people use always TWRP commandline via ADB.
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So I am still very confused. If I have the Fire Stick only connected to my computer via USB cabl, there will be no Fire Stick display anywhere. So I will be unable to interact with TWRP. But step 1 of post 2 says I can use an OTG mouse to interact with TWRP. How can you use a mouse when the Stick isn't plugged in to a TV?? How do you even boot into TWRP when the stick isn't plugged in?
The second point says use a command line and use ADB, but I thought you need to have ADB permissions set on the device to allow that to work, and you can't get to those ADB permissions without activating the device, which will update it, which defeats the whole purpose
I really appreciate the help but I am totally confused. This is so very frustrating.
You can plug the hdmi into your TV, but that wont help you to interact, because you use TWRP commands via adb. Ofc you see the commands and the TWRP txt output in the terminal window...
If the unlock is done, you can unplug the usb and use OTG + mouse, if you like. Should work too, but you need an usb hub and a storage stick too, if you like to install a ROM or Magisk or whatever. TWRP commandline is easier, you can push files via adb and then just run a adb shell twrp install command...
If TWRP is up, adb is always enabled...
Only the fireOS wants a permission, if you want to use adb.
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You can plug the hdmi into your TV, but that wont help you to interact, because you use TWRP commands via adb. Ofc you see the commands and the TWRP txt output in the terminal window...
If TWRP is up, adb is always enabled...
Only the fireOS wants a permission, if you want to use adb.
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OK, that is helpful, so you are saying if I unlock the device, flash TWRP, and reboot into recovery, ADB will be enabled, there is no need to allow ADB Debugging and I can run those pm uninstall commands?
SO are you saying this is the process?
1 - Download linux iso and script to unlock
2 - boot linux iso
3 - plug Fire Stick into PC with supplied USB cable only. Do not plug the HDMI into anything
4 - run the script and do the tinfoil thing
5 - After the script is done type "./fastboot-step.sh" which will reboot the device into TWRP. I will have no idea if this is working because there is no display for me to look at, correct?
6 - I would I guess wait a few minutes for the device to reboot since I would have no display available I would have no idea when it is done rebooting, but at some point I would type "adb devices" and my device would appear in the list?
If that is all correct, then I know I can type "adb shell" at that point to get to a shell window where I can send adb commands. Could I then execute the pm disable commands? Or do I NEED to flash a new rooted ROM before I do that? I honestly don't care at all about being rooted, I just want to disable OTA
7 - And then after that, OTA would be disabled, I can unplug the Stick from my PC, plug it into my TV for the first time, and it would let me register and not auto update during the registration process and never bug me for updates again?
Also I have seen many different variants of the actual pm disable commands required to disable OTA, can you provide the actual correct ones?
Thanks again
emkorial said:
OK, that is helpful, so you are saying if I unlock the device, flash TWRP, and reboot into recovery, ADB will be enabled, there is no need to allow ADB Debugging and I can run those pm uninstall commands?
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No, never said something like that
You cannot run pm uninstall commands in TWRP adb...
but you can run adb push/pull, adb shell, twrp install and all the other TWRP commands, in order to 'interact' with TWRP.
Maybe do some research, read a bit more about it. There are also some youtube guides out there.
emkorial said:
3 - plug Fire Stick into PC with supplied USB cable only. Do not plug the HDMI into anything
4 - run the script and do the tinfoil thing
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It doesn't matter if hdmi is in or out.
But you need to follow the unlocks OP.
You need to short the stick infront any usb connection...
i.e. run the script, keep the short, then connect usb and so on.
Take your time, follow the OP
Maybe @Bertonumber1 answers some of your other questions, I've got no time to continue for now... sry.
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No, never said something like that
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Thats exactly what you said. You said "If TWRP is up, adb is always enabled..." So which is it, will I be able to run adb shell and then run the pm commands once it boots into twrp or not?
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You cannot run pm uninstall commands in TWRP adb...
but you can run adb push/pull, adb shell, twrp install and all the other TWRP commands, in order to 'interact' with TWRP.
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So you are saying I cannot run adb commands from TWRP, but you say I can run adb shell from twrp, which I can then run adb commands from. Which is it?
Sus_i said:
Maybe do some research, read a bit more about it. There are also some youtube guides out there.
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I've read everything there is on the topic and it's very poorly documented from a step by step perspective. Can you answer the questions where you gave two opposite answers?
And the other questions no one has answers:
1 - Do I need to flash a rooted ROM before running the pm uninstall commands?
2 - Do I need Magisk installed? If so how do I install it?
I've been a remember of xda dev for years and years over many devices and I will never, ever understand how no one on this site ever seems capable of just giving simple step by step instructions and answering simple direct questions with simple direct answers.
At this point I am more confused than when I started so I feel it is still to risky to try this
Sus_i said:
It doesn't matter if hdmi is in or out.
But you need to follow the unlocks OP.
You need to short the stick infront any usb connection...
i.e. run the script, keep the short, then connect usb and so on.
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I get that the HDMI does not need to be hooked up. Can you answer my quesiotn about how to know when the device is rebooted if I have no display? So I just keep checking adb devices until it shows up?
Sus_i said:
Take your time, follow the OP
Maybe @Bertonumber1 answers some of your other questions, I've got no time to continue for now... sry.
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Can you just answer this, once I unlock, and reboot, if I wait and then my device shows up in adb devices, can I then run adb shell and run the pm uninstall commands?
emkorial said:
Thats exactly what you said. You said "If TWRP is up, adb is always enabled..." So which is it, will I be able to run adb shell and then run the pm commands once it boots into twrp or not?
So you are saying I cannot run adb commands from TWRP, but you say I can run adb shell from twrp, which I can then run adb commands from. Which is it?
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lol. Its just like I said yesterday:
You can run adb push/pull, adb shell, twrp install and all the other commands, in order to 'interact' with TWRP.
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You see, it isn't TWRP that searchs for updates
It is the fireOS that wants to keep the stick up-to-date.
If you want to disable this OTA update process inside the fireOS, you need to run the pm disable commands while fireOS is up and running.
Then I said yesterday:
It doesn't matter if hdmi is in or out.
But you need to short the stick infront any usb connection...
i.e. run the script, keep the short, then connect usb and so on.
Take your time, follow the OP
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About four hours later, you ask the same question, in the same wrong order!??:
emkorial said:
I do not want to flash another firmware. I don't care about being rooted at all. I'm never going to install any silly add-on's or pointless extras. I have one goal and one goal only: Keep the OS version on the stick now and prevent it from ever updating.
Here is the process I have put together from scouring about 20 different threads and a half dozen conversations.
1 - Download the linux iso and the script to unlock the Fire Stick
2 - boot a PC with the linux iso
3 - plug Fire Stick into PC with supplied USB cable only. Do not plug the HDMI into anything
4 - Run the script and do the tinfoil thing
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At this point It doesn't make sense, just to write it again and again, if you can't get the point.
emkorial said:
I've been a remember of xda dev for years and years over many devices and I will never, ever understand how no one on this site ever seems capable of just giving simple step by step instructions and answering simple direct questions with simple direct answers.
At this point I am more confused than when I started so I feel it is still to risky to try this
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I'm sorry to hear that.
I've just realized that I can't help you at all, so I'm going to stop answering.
Wish you good luck. Have fun.
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If you want to disable this OTA update process inside the fireOS, you need to run the pm disable commands while fireOS is up and running.
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OK, that makes sense. But since Fire OS is up and running and sitting at the setup screen, USB Debugging has never been turned on. So how do you connect to the Fire Stick via ADB since you cant get to developer options?
UNLESS, does the pre rooted image you flash after unlocking have USB Debugging enabled by DEFAULT, so you DON'T have to turn it on via Settings? THAT would make this ALL make sense. Is that the case?
If so, then it would be
1 - Download iso and script
2 - boot iso and do foil trick and run script
3 - flash a rooted ROM (that will have USB Debugging enabled by default)
4 - boot Fire Stick and just sit at initial screen, don't go though setup
5 - Connect via ADB (which will work since USB Debugging is turned on by default)
6 - Run pm commands
7 - Continue with setup and OTA will be blocked
Is that correct?
Edit: I suppose I can just keep trying at each step until it works. Like this
Step 1 - Take the stick out of the box, plug it into the TV, get to the welcome screen, do not connect to wifi or set up the device (so no OTA updates will occur), connect the USB cable to my PC, and see if I can run the ADB Commands. If that doesn't work...
Step 2 - Unlock the device via the foil trick, plug the stick into the TV, get to the welcome screen, do not connect to wifi or set up the device (so no OTA updates will occur), connect the USB cable to my PC, and see if I can run the ADB Commands. If that doesn't work...
Step 3 - Flash a custom ROM, plug the stick into the TV, get to the welcome screen, do not connect to wifi or set up the device (so no OTA updates will occur), connect the USB cable to my PC, and see if I can run the ADB Commands. That should work as that mirrors the process in the guide.