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I was holding out for the Moto 360 (and still am actually) but I missed the best buy online order by 10 minutes the first day....then found a Best Buy with 2 in stock on Monday and got there 15 minutes later to find them gone.
I couldn't wait any longer so I picked up the LG G Watch just to check out Android Wear while I wait for Motorola to get their act together.
Just spent the past few hours with it and I've got to say I'm loving the Android Wear software/interface! Judging by reviews and posts I've seen, I didn't think the software would be anything special, but I think it's the perfect UI for a smartwatch.
Has anyone here gone from an LG G Watch to the Moto 360? I just want to know how much of a decrease to expect in performance and screen quality. The screen on the LG G Watch is really pretty damn good, I don't see any pixels from a normal viewing distance, a HUGE upgrade from my Sony SW2. Also the performance surprised me, the touch screen is very responsive and all the animations are fluid, haven't seen any hiccups or lag.
If anyone can chime in with their experiences on both watches that would be awesome.
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I was holding out for the Moto 360 (and still am actually) but I missed the best buy online order by 10 minutes the first day....then found a Best Buy with 2 in stock on Monday and got there 15 minutes later to find them gone.
I couldn't wait any longer so I picked up the LG G Watch just to check out Android Wear while I wait for Motorola to get their act together.
Just spent the past few hours with it and I've got to say I'm loving the Android Wear software/interface! Judging by reviews and posts I've seen, I didn't think the software would be anything special, but I think it's the perfect UI for a smartwatch.
Has anyone here gone from an LG G Watch to the Moto 360? I just want to know how much of a decrease to expect in performance and screen quality. The screen on the LG G Watch is really pretty damn good, I don't see any pixels from a normal viewing distance, a HUGE upgrade from my Sony SW2. Also the performance surprised me, the touch screen is very responsive and all the animations are fluid, haven't seen any hiccups or lag.
If anyone can chime in with their experiences on both watches that would be awesome.
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I have had both watches. Just sold my LG G Watch actually. I loved the LG for the ability to swap out leather bands. No special notches, no needing to measure if the band will fit "inside" the watch like the Moto does. I had a sweet custom watchband made for it and wanted to use it for the Moto, but alas, the band was way too thick to insert into the watch.
Now saying that, the Moto is a minor upgrade from the G watch IMO. The display is better IMO. Not sure if it's the roundness but the screen is crisp. Also the responsiveness is on par with the G watch. The moto has a button! LOL I know not a deal breaker, but great to use in a pinch to dim the screen right away rather than put my sweaty palms on the watch lol.
The moto's bezel is nice and minimal compared to the G watch. And stylistically, I "like" the round factor compared to the G watch's rectangle factor only because I own a lot of other types of watches and they are for the most part....round lol.
Battery: I have to say LG has a bit better battery than the Moto. Kinda surprised me because I would think they would use the moto fit knowledge and incorporate that into the battery here. Yesterday, I had an average of 6.33%/hour decrease in power on the moto in about 9.5 hours with ambient off and ambient screen off with the display to level 1. For the LG, my set up was screen always on, display to 1 and that lasted a good 12 hours and that averaged about 5.5% decrease per hour. All the decreases are dependant on usage of course. But I am measuring a typical work day with no navigation usage, and with constant texts/emails/and calls in the measured period. Oh and I have to also preface that the G watch was running the Ghoma rom which did optimize the battery according to the dev.
Today, I am testing out the moto with the ambient screen on and the ambient to AUTO and see how long it lasts for me today. So far I am averaging 7%/per hour. Hopefully this improves with time with the power cycle!
Bottom line, am I glad I switched? YES. The G watch was getting less and less wrist time because of my other watches and the moto kicked it back into rotation. The style is key here for me.
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I have had both watches. Just sold my LG G Watch actually. I loved the LG for the ability to swap out leather bands. No special notches, no needing to measure if the band will fit "inside" the watch like the Moto does. I had a sweet custom watchband made for it and wanted to use it for the Moto, but alas, the band was way too thick to insert into the watch.
Now saying that, the Moto is a minor upgrade from the G watch IMO. The display is better IMO. Not sure if it's the roundness but the screen is crisp. Also the responsiveness is on par with the G watch. The moto has a button! LOL I know not a deal breaker, but great to use in a pinch to dim the screen right away rather than put my sweaty palms on the watch lol.
The moto's bezel is nice and minimal compared to the G watch. And stylistically, I "like" the round factor compared to the G watch's rectangle factor only because I own a lot of other types of watches and they are for the most part....round lol.
Battery: I have to say LG has a bit better battery than the Moto. Kinda surprised me because I would think they would use the moto fit knowledge and incorporate that into the battery here. Yesterday, I had an average of 6.33%/hour decrease in power on the moto in about 9.5 hours with ambient off and ambient screen off with the display to level 1. For the LG, my set up was screen always on, display to 1 and that lasted a good 12 hours and that averaged about 5.5% decrease per hour. All the decreases are dependant on usage of course. But I am measuring a typical work day with no navigation usage, and with constant texts/emails/and calls in the measured period. Oh and I have to also preface that the G watch was running the Ghoma rom which did optimize the battery according to the dev.
Today, I am testing out the moto with the ambient screen on and the ambient to AUTO and see how long it lasts for me today. So far I am averaging 7%/per hour. Hopefully this improves with time with the power cycle!
Bottom line, am I glad I switched? YES. The G watch was getting less and less wrist time because of my other watches and the moto kicked it back into rotation. The style is key here for me.
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Awesome detailed comparison, I'm even more excited to get my 360 now!
Just thought I'd answer my thread with my own comparison too:
Went in to Best Buy today and actually got to see the Moto 360 in person for the first time, and this is after using the LG G Watch for a few days. The screen seems so much bigger! Round really gives you a decent chunk more of screen real estate, and that thin bezel looks amazing on it. I honestly couldn't tell much of a difference between PPI in the two which surprised me, so the 360 screen is fine. It also seemed brighter than the G Watch. The band on it was much more comfortable than the plastic sticky G Watch band. Also I didn't notice any performance hiccups, it seemed just as "smooth" as the G Watch, which means it's more than adequate.
The only thing I don't have experience on now is 360 battery life, but if the difference is really just 1% an hour more drain than I will be fine! The lowest I got my G Watch down to was 20%.
TLDR: If the LG G Watch was $179.99 and the Moto 360 was even $299.99, I'd say the Moto 360 is still better for the money.
I own an lg watch and am definitely getting the moto ,360 when they release it in Canada.. Would use it for special occasions and parties , whereas the g watch would be my silly driver.. Battery should not be a problem
Okay I've had the Moto 360 for 2 full days now and here's what I think.
The screen actually is a bit more pixelated, but since it's bigger you can hold it back further to the point where you can't tell a difference. On the plus side the contrast / brightness seems better on the 360.
Performance wise, I do see lag on the 360 which I never saw on the LG G Watch. Whenever you first touch the screen it lags for a half second (I'm guessing the CPU underclocks and then overclocks when you touch it.) When you keep touching it after that moving back and forth between cards it stays smooth, but then if you don't touch the screen for a few seconds and go back to it it lags again. This is a little bit annoying but definitely not a deal breaker. I bet if there were custom roms for this, a developer could fix this issue and give us better battery life to boot lol.
I just keep looking at my wrist and thinking wow, this thing looks incredible. haha
Wondering if any of you guys have had the Gear 2 before purchasing the Moto 360.
I'm interested in the round screen as well as Android Wear. But I'm not able to really find any reviews of someone who has really used both devices day in and day out.
I've have Pebble, loved it! But never put it back on after the Gear 2 purchase. I don't think Tizen is a lost cause, I see new apps coming out all the time. But, I think maybe Android Wear is the way to go, for the long haul.
So, has anyone used both devices for some period of time?
Thanks!
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Wondering if any of you guys have had the Gear 2 before purchasing the Moto 360.
I'm interested in the round screen as well as Android Wear. But I'm not able to really find any reviews of someone who has really used both devices day in and day out.
I've have Pebble, loved it! But never put it back on after the Gear 2 purchase. I don't think Tizen is a lost cause, I see new apps coming out all the time. But, I think maybe Android Wear is the way to go, for the long haul.
So, has anyone used both devices for some period of time?
Thanks!
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I have used both, and I liked the Gear 2 better. The software is just much more functional, and battery life is great.
Also, the Gear 2 had some neat features that the 360 didn't have (camera, speaker, IR blaster to control all of your audio/video equipment etc...).
I still think Android Wear will be the way to go, but for now it's not as useful as the Gear IMHO...
I had the 360 and went to the Gear 2. It is a much better and refined watch in my opinion. The Speaker, Amoled screen as well as the Android like Tizen, provide a pleasant experience for me. And the incredible battery life, wow! Doing chores around my house while waiting to talk to a customer support agent on my watch is such a revolutionary thing for me as well.
I had the opposite experience.
Camera function is useless on Gear 2.
You can't feel the vibration when you're doing anything with your hands using the G2.
Never bothered to use the IR because the OS on the G2 is clunky and slow.
I do miss the speaker option because you can take calls.
And battery life.
App support for the G2 is AWFUL.
S-Voice is horrible and slow.
G2 is much heavier, but the band is better (debatable).
I can go on for days, but I only had the 360 for almost 24hrs now so I'm still getting used to it.
Is camera function that bad? Since I don't have a waterproof phone I thought having a camera on my risk for our doors and pool beach play with the kids
would be a great solution. I dont really need the picture quality to be perfect or SLR quality but enough for social sharing. Pls comment .. Tq
I hear google voice search can be made to works too on the G2 so I suppose there can still be some google integration.
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I had the opposite experience.
Camera function is useless on Gear 2.
You can't feel the vibration when you're doing anything with your hands using the G2.
Never bothered to use the IR because the OS on the G2 is clunky and slow.
I do miss the speaker option because you can take calls.
And battery life.
App support for the G2 is AWFUL.
S-Voice is horrible and slow.
G2 is much heavier, but the band is better (debatable).
I can go on for days, but I only had the 360 for almost 24hrs now so I'm still getting used to it.
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Is camera function that bad? Since I don't have a waterproof phone I thought having a camera on my risk for our doors and pool beach play with the kids
would be a great solution. I dont really need the picture quality to be perfect or SLR quality but enough for social sharing. Pls comment .. Tq
I hear google voice search can be made to works too on the G2 so I suppose there can still be some google integration.
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Here's a link to the Gear 2 thread to "Show off your pics".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2722717
They look pretty good to me!
I had the gear 2 and now I have the moto 360, this is a trade off at the moment, as far as voice recognition moto is much better, the style I think is much better. The gear 2 is like a swiss army knife, it's much more feature packed and its management of emails and text is better.
If andoid wear catches up the moto will surpass gear 2
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fylim said:
Is camera function that bad? Since I don't have a waterproof phone I thought having a camera on my risk for our doors and pool beach play with the kids
would be a great solution. I dont really need the picture quality to be perfect or SLR quality but enough for social sharing. Pls comment .. Tq
I hear google voice search can be made to works too on the G2 so I suppose there can still be some google integration.
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The camera is quite good. It also take 720p video. No Google now as of yet, unless you use Tasker.
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I had the gear 2 and now I have the moto 360, this is a trade off at the moment, as far as voice recognition moto is much better, the style I think is much better. The gear 2 is like a swiss army knife, it's much more feature packed and its management of emails and text is better.
If andoid wear catches up the moto will surpass gear 2
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I too had both. And agree with the above statement.
I don't personally have a Gear 2, but a friend of mine does.
The camera isn't very good. And honestly I cannot for the life of me figure out why you'd use it over your phone unless you were trying to do something devious. The one time my friend used it that was some what useful was to take a picture of our parking lot area number when we were at a convention.
But I mean...I had my phone out and could have done it in two seconds.
I don't quite get people wanting to replace their phone with a smart watch.
If you said "Gear 2 has better battery life, that's why I went with it", no debate, totally understand that.
But to say you like it better for a speaker and a camera? Geesh.
As someone who has seen both watches in use...
Gear 2, better battery life, wouldn't be caught dead in public wearing it (my friend looks like a dork among dorks).
360, looks like an actual watch, worse battery.
That's it.
The gear 2 is a completely crippled piece of hardware. In typical Samsung fashion they just cram it with as many features as possible hoping that at least one of them will grab someones attention so they can make the sale. Funny how this amazing strategy clearly isn't working when they are showing losses as of last quarter.
The crippling I'm referring to is Tizen, which will be obsolete in 6 months or less. How arrogant of Samsung to think they can write thier own OS and take on Android. They can't even get their android based OS down, and now they are writing a new OS from scratch?
And the nail in the coffin is s voice. One of the worst user experiences I have ever seen. Its slow, unintelligent, and not helpful in any way whatsoever. You can't even respond to an email wtih the gear 2.... Give me a break. I respond to everything on my Android wear watch, including chat programs such as groupme. Better battery life on the gear 2? Yes. S voice? Blows the entire package out of the water.
Have the Gear 2 Neo, just picked up the Moto last night to try.
Design: Clearly Moto Wins with round display.
Display Quality: Gear 2, so much better just not round.
Voice Recognition: Moto hands down
Interface Usability: Gear 2 is so much easier to use aside from voice control. Android Wear is so immature
Battery Life: Not even a competition, 4 Days+ on the Gear 2, after 10 hours I'm at 40% on the Moto.
Apps: Gear 2 by a hair, but both suck
Charger: Moto Charger is very cool, Gear 2 is annoying
Calls: Moto is Useless, No speaker, if you want to answer calls your only choice is Gear 2.
Messaging: Moto wins only because it will let you reply to Hangouts which is all I use, both are really bad as messaging
Performance: Gear 2 wins, Moto lags a lot
Watch faces: Gear 2 has far more options for customizing watch
Navigation: Both are terrible right now, but Gear 2 with a speaker has clear potential advantage. Moto will always be useless.
Gear 2 features you can't replicate on Moto:
IR control, kind of a gimmick, but fun to play with at your local bar and drive you bartender nuts
Voice call, ummm Android Wear, what were you thinking.
Summary:
The Moto is a beautiful watch, but between the battery life and the lack of a speaker I will probably return it and stick with my Gear 2, it's just a more useable mature product.
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I don't personally have a Gear 2, but a friend of mine does.
The camera isn't very good. And honestly I cannot for the life of me figure out why you'd use it over your phone unless you were trying to do something devious.
That's it.
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A few situations come to mind where you don't want to risk your phone flying out of your hands. Roller coasters, surfing, Sky diving to name a few. Maybe your life is too boring. Lol. Personally I like the design of the Gear 2 better. The 360 looked like a hockey puck strapped to my wrist.
Some little nit pickey things
I traded my gear 2 for this. Everyone is right about battery life it does suck. Like 10-12 hour suck if your lucky. On the gear 2 you get a notification and if you ignored it it would go of the main screen. Basically if you ignored the notification and the display went dark next time you flick you wrist you would have a clear view of the time. With the 360 no matter how many times you flick your wrist that notification is still there and it wont go away without swiping it away which gets old after a while. I kinda miss the speaker and dedicated away from the phone for a while music player. Can't speak for the vibration problems people are having and ir blaster since I didn't use much to care if it wasn't there. My kids are mad because no camera now but not that big a deal to me. One last thing it comes with a day one update that needs 80 percent to attempt. Mine came out of the box at 6 percent. That reminds me it get wildly inconsistent charging rates. Sometimes it's like 30 minutes to 100 percent other times it sitting on the charger all night and I go to leave and it won't turn on because it stopped charging for some reason. But anyway you can't even use thing as a watch until the update it just says it won't connect. The screen is nice but not for the trade off the we are getting with battery life. Would I still trade my gear 2 for this. Yes best solely on looks right now. Maybe software can fix some of what's wrong
I also went back to my gear 2....I loved the 360 look feel etc, but it was hard to justify the 250 price tag....also considering how hard I am on devices I think I'll just use the gear 2 into the ground and hopefully by then something that comfortably gets me through the day with battery is out. I do drive 3-4 hours a day or more so maybe the crappy battery life has to do with that. It is almost a full day but when I am afraid to look at my watch so I can conserve battery I think it loses its usefulness.
Is it worth it to trade my gear 2 for a moto 360?
I had gear 2 neo before having the moto 360... The only thing that I see gear neo is better that is battery life and the screen as Amoled.. Other than that it a useless especially the tizen OS!
Thought about getting a gear 2 but biggest most massive issue with any of samsung none wear watches are you gotta have a Samsung Device and I've got a nexus 5. Have a lg g watch with my 360 I rarely use the g watch even though it has a better cpu.
Samsung is also really really bad about updating their devices or even providing proper organized device source so you could make a update yourself.
Argument on a speaker on your watch I find silly rather have a nice Bluetooth headset lot less background noise. Heck I'm looking at the bragi dash when they come out!
Hi,
I'm hoping to buy an android wear smartwatch soon but I'm torn between the Moto 360 and LG Urbane. I'm leaning towards the Moto 360 mainly for the larger screen and wireless charging. But not 100% keen on the bottom bar even though I know it's needed and the design can't work without it but does spoil the design somewhat though some watch faces seem to work well with it.
I generally prefer the design of the 360 over the Urbane, though screen is slightly better resolution on the Urbane thought would prefer the bigger screen. I just want to know what the Moto 360 is like to use daily and if the bottom bar really is much of an issue and would you rather get the Urbane?
mikesaa309 said:
Hi,
I'm hoping to buy an android wear smartwatch soon but I'm torn between the Moto 360 and LG Urbane. I'm leaning towards the Moto 360 mainly for the larger screen and wireless charging. But not 100% keen on the bottom bar even though I know it's needed and the design can't work without it but does spoil the design somewhat though some watch faces seem to work well with it.
I generally prefer the design of the 360 over the Urbane, though screen is slightly better resolution on the Urbane thought would prefer the bigger screen. I just want to know what the Moto 360 is like to use daily and if the bottom bar really is much of an issue and would you rather get the Urbane?
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Not much of an issue to me.. I guess its personal. I realize something that I prefer in the Moto 360. In comparison to the LG watch R, the cards in it tends to get cut off, which it will not happen in moto 360.
Just got a black one yest from a closing radio shack for 125. I already have a pebble steel, but i kinda like the android wear exp.
I got one today. I returned a pebble steel with a broken button. I've had it for a few hours now. I will be returning it this evening and getting another Pebble Steel. If I can convince them to give me a full refund, I might wait for the Pebble Time.
When I brought the 360 home, it was at 12% battery life. This was to be expected. I was able to turn it on for about 30 seconds before auto-shutdown. I set a timer. It took 2 hours and 33 minutes to fully charge. It immediately wanted to upgrade after turning it on and completing setup. (v5.0.2)
It has been 4 hours and I'm down to 27%. Granted I've used the watch more than I normally would as I get used to the menus, but this is not acceptable. If I reduce it to what I consider to be normal use, it will not last the day.
The watch is glitchy and doesn't always register touch. When I am able to navigate to the menu I want, the watch will frequently and randomly vibrate and shut itself off while I'm in the middle of something (the same behavior as it I had covered it with my palm). This is beyond annoying.
About 50% of the time, the watch fails to turn the display on when I lift my arm (the standard lift and rotate gesture shown on the youtube videos). I've put this through extensive testing, and the exact same gesture (what I've found to be the most effective) is only effective about 50% of the time.
The heart rate monitor doesn't work. The strap is on tight and I have actually cleared a part of my arm of hair to test it. I have never been able to get a successful heart rate. I even got my girlfriend to try it. The lights on the back come on, but nobody is home.
Most of the best watch faces and apps require a purchase. I suppose this is by intention (the designers do deserve to profit from their designs). But the real annoyance is that there is a lot of bait-and-charge software too. Software that claims to be free on the Play store, only to find it severely handicapped until you pay via an in-app purchase. AFAIK this is a big kick in the teeth for the Android Wear community and a major drawback. It won't turn away the hardened Android fan-boys who already have invested in the apps they like, but it will turn of a lot of people on the fence. If you are gonna charge for your app, at least be up-front about it. Its shady as hell.
Furthermore, I've detected that there appears to be a lot of very similar watch faces. The comments and reviews indicate that there is rampant design theft and doesn't appear to be any checks in place to prevent this. As such, I have no idea that when I am purchasing a watch app, that I'm giving money to the original artist or a plagiarist.
Not all circular watch faces will render correctly. The "flat tire" utility bay will cut some of them off.
The watch is not visible in direct sunlight. I don't care what the reviews say. I was outside in the bright sunlight today and I could barely read the watch face.
The vibration is not strong enough. When the Pebble Steel vibrated, it was very strong, but not intrusively so. This watch I can hardly even feel when I'm expecting it. Not acceptable.
Step counter doesn't work, but this is to be expected. Even the Pebble Steel was off. I've always maintained that wrist based pedometers are a fad and can't tell what your legs are doing.
Sorry for being critical, but you did presumably ask for honest opinions. I suppose it is subjective, but the 360 isn't for me. It feels very Beta. Maybe the 360 2 will get it right, but this watch is a pass IMO.
I been wanting a new gadget to play with.
I bought someone's NIB black refurb off CL for $120. So far it's been a cool experience. I don't regret my purchase. YMMV it's a personal thing.
I bought a SONY smart watch. Turned it on, could figure out anything, couldn't get it pair. Turn it off, left it in the shopping bag somewhere.
pacificwing said:
Sorry for being critical, but you did presumably ask for honest opinions. I suppose it is subjective, but the 360 isn't for me. It feels very Beta. Maybe the 360 2 will get it right, but this watch is a pass IMO.
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Anyone with a 360 could have told you now was not the time to buy...
Motorola still haven't figured out the 5.1 update, and the previous update seriously hurt battery life and the tilt-to-wake function. Right now we're all in the same boat, just trying to keep the thing working properly till the end of the day...
The original software on the 360 was very responsive and had good battery life so we know it can work, but our only hope now is that Motorola's team of trained chimpanzee coders manages to set it right.
Enjoy
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_ifa_2015_hands_on_review-review-1295.php
400 mAh battery doesn't look very impressive to me. Screen is still LCD and not OLED so overall battery life could be at most 30-40% better, in my opinion.
To me, the first Moto 360 look like the successor of the new one design-wise, not the other way around. The original design is pure and futuristic.
Price also is increased by $100 (for the 46mm watch) which I find kind of greedy from Motorola.
I predict that the new Moto 360 won't have the success of the first edition, but it remains to be seen.
Personally not a big enough upgrade for me to shell out more money. Bought mine on sale for $149 and ordered a black metal band for $12 and it is working great. After the initial set-up I have never had a problem making it though a day with battery life.
I agree, mine lasts a very full day into night, not enough an upgrade to switch. A safer / less likely to crack back is a little tempting.. But I might try one of those Steel Connect products...
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Won´t buy it until it drops to $150 and I sell my 1st gen watch (I would consider other smarwatches at a similar price too)
I was really, really hoping that they would move to OLED. It really boggles me as to why they stayed with LCD, considering OLED can offer much better power-savings, and ambient mode is pretty much pointless on an LCD screen.
I would have definitely upgraded had they switched to OLED for the 2015 Moto 360, but so far, pretty disappointed with the announcement. I was half-hoping that they would implement some NFC-capabilities, but they didn't do that, either.
Wow I have to agree with all of you. LCD screen will eat the battery, and they kept the flat tire. I was excited for the final specs but now realize I will not be upgrading from my $149 first gen 360, not much changed.
I have an LG G watch R and wore it all day today with heavy usage with ambient mode on plus disabled minimal ambient screen mode so the screen looks active the entire day. As I write this 14 hours later, I still have 63% battery left. I think the Moto 360 is much more stylish, but it is a stylish black screen most of the day. I guess I will be looking at Samsung & other new watches.
I have had an LG G Watch R for about a year and just got a 1st generation Moto 360 for formal affairs. I am glad the 360 does not have an OLED screen. I don't use the Moto 360 as my daily driver, but as a short term watch for formal gatherings. I don't need it to have great battery life, but I do need to avoid the burn in issues I've seen some LG G Watch R owners experience. I want to be able to use lighter watch faces with no fear of burn in.
I am very glad I got the 1st generation 360, before the 2nd generation came out. The latest 360 has a bigger battery, and looks nice, although I do prefer the look of the 1st generation model. With all that the 2nd generation 360 brings, it is simply not worth it's much higher price tag. Android Wear devices, used to cost much less than a phone. Now, Android Wear prices are on par with the phones they're supposed to pair with and depend on for information. They don't even have independent call and talk capability, but are priced like phones...
I did a comparison today in Moto Maker and the 2nd generation 360 would cost more than double for the same design as I purchased just last week for a 1st generation 360. That's pretty wild to me, since the 2nd generation 360 is not "that much" better.
To me, Moto and others that have just released 2015 Android Wear devices. Are in some delusional space, thinking they will get sales at their present asking prices.
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To me, Moto and others that have just released 2015 Android Wear devices. Are in some delusional space, thinking they will get sales at their present asking prices.
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I agree with this, they saw the Apple Watch pricing and they thought to match it. The fate will be the same as with Galaxy S6 vs iPhone 6: Samsung did a price drop after a few short months.
Yeah this new one just ain't worth the upgrade... I really thought they would work out a way of getting rid of the flat tire.. The price is a joke.
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I was really, really hoping that they would move to OLED. It really boggles me as to why they stayed with LCD, considering OLED can offer much better power-savings, and ambient mode is pretty much pointless on an LCD screen.
I would have definitely upgraded had they switched to OLED for the 2015 Moto 360, but so far, pretty disappointed with the announcement. I was half-hoping that they would implement some NFC-capabilities, but they didn't do that, either.
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I agree with the OLED. My assumption is that they could not outsource an OLED display of their required size and shape (1.56" with flat-tyre at the bottom, minimal bezel and all the electronics in the flat-tyre area) in a cost-effective manner. Samsung and LG use much smaller 1.2" displays with large to huge bezels. Huawei is a bit of a surprise though.
But with a 400mAh battery, updated processor and maybe LCD backlight improvements I think we are in for a surprise regarding battery life with the always-on display. Or at least I hope so.
In the mean time, I really like the Samsung Gear S2 so I may just get that as an upgrade if it has really good battery life.
Hey everyone,
So I like to bike maybe once a week and have typically used Map My Ride or Strava to, well, map my rides. But I'm on Project Fi now so am becoming a miser with my data. I was thinking of getting a SW3 and using GhostRacer and the built in GPS to handle that but wanted to see if it is still worth it. I know the 360 Sport is around but the reviews haven't been stellar. Assuming the price is in the $100-$125 range is it still worth it?
I do also go to the gym a couple of days a week so keeping music on the watch and using headphones is a plus as well.
Thanks,
I owned both SW3 and Moto 360 Sport, however I just sold the 360 Sport yesterday because the battery drained on it a lot faster than on the SW3. I prefered the look of the Moto 360 Sport over the SW3 even though I own the SS, Universal strap and silicone strap for the SW3. Both are also water resistant.
Here is a breakdown of pro and cons.
The display of both watches are similar other than round vs square, however the Moto display is a bit nicer with more vibrant colors and while in ambient mode it's in color vs b&w.
Moto 360 Sport also has a built in optical HR monitor SW3 does not.
SW3 has replaceable watch band, infinite combination, Moto 360 Sport comes in White, Black, and Orange and you can not replace the bands.
Again, battery life is night and day better on the SW3 additionally you can charge is with any Micro USB cable vs a proprietary wireless charger. Additionally SW3 charges really fast, almost 2X faster than Moto 360 Sport.
SW3 has built in NFC, you can't do much with it now but future updates may give you more options.
I haven't used either watch with the headphones, so I can't comment on that aspect of the watch.
So I would say go with SW3 and save some money, you'll have no regrets.
Had the SW3 for about 6 months now and I love it. I use it for tracking runs, playing music paired with BT headphones and for keeping track of my appointments. It's great for the price, but I suggest holding out a while longer until announcements for support (or lack thereof) for Android Wear 2.0 come out. Motorola has confirmed it won't be getting the software update for the 1st gen Moto360, so there's a good chance the SW3 won't either..so you might be better off getting one of the newer models. I'm thinking the price might still go down if it won't support AW 2.0, but if it does, at the current price it's a steal.
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Motorola has confirmed it won't be getting the software update for the 1st gen Moto360, so there's a good chance the SW3 won't either..so you might be better off getting one of the newer models.
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Because first gen has bad processor and bad battery.
SW3 has same processor than Moto 2nd gen and other actual wear watch.
dersie said:
Because first gen has bad processor and bad battery.
SW3 has same processor than Moto 2nd gen and other actual wear watch.
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I won't get my hopes up. It may have the hardware requirements , but seeing as the SW3 was the last of the 1st gen devices to get the recent android update, Sony may not be too keen on putting any more effort into the device. Still a great device for the price it's going for now though, and a good entry point into Android Wear for minimal $. Just bear in mind that when purchasing any piece of tech, it's bound to become obsolete in a year or so, simply because that's how fast technology is evolving. Hardly anything is future-proof these days.
I have this watch for a couple of months now and yes I absolutely love it. Might even buy a second one, for no other reason than having a spare, just in case. I'm sad that smart watches aren't really popular - I'd love to have a SW3 with better hardware and a heart rate sensor - but this watch is great. I use it for stuff like skating and thanks to the great location tracking, I can safely leave my phone at home, and when I'm back it will sync my whole route. This took a looong time the last time I did it, but ok, I rode for 30km so that's probably a lot of data to sync. Now I can see my entire route back on Google Fit. I really love that.
As a sysadmin I also use my watch for easy notifications, and for dispatching tasks to Tasker, using WearTasker. It's great that I don't need to take my phone each time I get a notification. This also applies to when I'm driving - using my phone when I'm on the road is something I absolutely never do, and now, when I get a message, I get it on my watch, so at least I can see if it's something urgent.
The voice capabilities work well enough to also make this a lovable feature.
The rubber wrist band fits nicely. I also bought a, what's the name, the plastic thing in which you can fit a band of your own choice. But I like the rubber band a lot more.
The display works great with a screen protector and the light sensor also works good.
All in all.. what's there not to love about this watch?
Have had mine for about seven months now. Overall I'm very happy with the watch and will probably (hopefully) keep it for a long time.
I'm most impressed by the battery life, which is great, and the durability of the display. I'm very neurotic about my phone's screen, always using tempered glass protectors, but I've worn the SW3 without any kind of screen condom pretty much all the time for over half a year, and the display still looks like brand spanking new. Thing is tough, is what I'm saying.
I just went through all of this myself when my original SW3 broke. I went through all of the available smartwatches and started narrowing them down. I like running but hate taking my phone because of its size (6p). I found an awesome Amazon Warehouse deal on a 360 Sport. The band is a deal breaker. Plain and simple. Its awful. Everything sticks to it and it was uncomfortable for me. This wouldn't be an issue normally, but you cannot replace the band...ever. Also, potential issue with the 360 Sport is IP67 water resistance vs IP68 on the Sony SW3.
I also tried the Samsung Gear S due to its IP68 rating and heart rate. While the fit and finish is above and beyond what the SW3 has to offer, I missed the always-on TFT screen, Wear, Google Now (voice commands work amazingly well), and my customized Watchmaker Premium face (with Tasker integration .
I would still choose the SW3 today due to these things: battery life (2 days not uncommon), TFT display (always on without killing battery-visible in direct sunlight), ambient light sensor (I'm looking at you Huawei and Asus), microUSB charging (yes, it's kinda a pain, but you can charge anywhere-getting a right-angle USB cable helps make it less annoying to plug in), and interchangeable bands (I have 2 bands now. They are comfortable for me and quick clasp). Lack of heart rate does not bother me b/c I don't think any wrist-based HR is accurate enough to matter.
Note: I use my SW3 with headphones all the time. Works great. Syncing music is cake with Play Music, though, since it has USB, I would prefer if it supported MTP and you could just drag and drop whatever straight to the device. Definitely not a problem, just annoying to have to wait for all your offline music to sync over BT.
My main issue with my SW3 is the very very.... poor readability indoor in dim mode. With low light it is very difficult to read. And with only black & white dim mode most of the wear face are very bad. Even the pebble time LCD screen color is much better
Good outdoor 1% of the time but bad indoor 99% of the time.
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My main issue with my SW3 is the very very.... poor readability indoor in dim mode. With low light it is very difficult to read. And with only black & white dim mode most of the wear face are very bad. Even the pebble time LCD screen color is much better
Good outdoor 1% of the time but bad indoor 99% of the time.
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I will say that the LCD in the SW3 is not the best for viewing angles and resolution. However, readability is never an issue for me. The main reason is the ambient light sensor. I tried a Zenwatch 2 (which is a nice watch for the money), but the lack of the ambient light sensor meant the screen was always too dim or too bright. I don't want to fiddle with brightness every time I go outside or back inside. Yes, the always on TFT mode is going not the greatest for inside, but that's not its point. Still, sitting here at my desk under weak, florescent light, I can read it perfectly at a glance. That is another selling point for this watch. It is fairly useful as a watch...lol.
I am bit disappointed with my SW3, or more with Android Wear actually.
Besides notifications I have not been able to find much use for it. I had Pebble for two years and loved the way it handled notifications, with a certain third party app though. IMO Android Wear is quite clumsy and I miss more customisation options especially with the way notifications are handled. My battery lasts about a day and a night. For a smartwatch I guess that is not bad but I do miss Pebble's several days of juice.
So I am not sure if I would buy one now that I have used SW3 for few months...
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Which Smart Watch?
I own the Sony S3 Smartwatch, the Samsung Gear S2 and two Moto 360 2nd generation watches. Yes, I have four smart watches for no reason other than I love gadgets. I also owned the Huawei smart watch for about a week before I exchanged it for a Moto 360. The Huawei is great but I have huge wrists. So the Moto looks best on my wrist. Anyway, I use each watch for different activities. Each watch has it's pros and cons and correlates directly to which activities they are best for. For instance, the Sony Smartwatch has the best waterproof rating. So I wear the Sony to the beach and for playing beach volleyball (any activity with the possibility of submersion). The Sony is also one of the only watches with on-board GPS. That's great when you want to track your movement without lugging the phone around with you. The Samsung Gear S2 is probably the most versatile and it's sort of a hybrid between a sports watch and a casual dinner watch (depends on which band you install). The Samsung works great in every aspect and is probably the best overall performer but you cannot wear it as a luxury piece. It just does not have the look of a luxury piece. That's where the Moto 360 2nd Gen comes into play. The Moto performs great but you don't want to wear it playing beach volleyball. The Moto is designed to look like a luxury time piece and it looks the part. Of course the stock straps with the Moto are absolute garbage. You will want to order good thick leather straps online (or nice stainless steel). Once you have installed the new 3rd party strap your Moto will look very much like a fine time piece similar to a Breitling, Tagheur, Omega, etc.... Then you just need to use the Watchmaker premium app to download hundreds of custom watch faces that resemble luxury time pieces. In conclusion, if you want the smart watch solely for exercise I suggest the Sony S3. If you want a very nice (large) watch that looks like a Rolex I'd suggest the Moto 360 (46 mm). If you want a smart watch for the office and exercising I'd suggest the Samsung Gear S2. Most importantly, all three of these watches are top performers with good processors and great screens. So the only thing that differs greatly is the appearance of the piece itself.