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Hi guys I have some questions about the new Firmware and KitKat in general and you may have answers I'll try to update first post with your answers!
-Will I loose root when I flash through Odin? --> Yes
-Is the new firmware rootable, or is there a way to keep root when I upgrade from rooted 4.3?
-->For upgrade yes: If you are rooted on 4.3 you can restore root by flashing a custom recovery and flash superSU manually.
-->chainfire autoroot works but you need to update the superSU app through play store after flashing.
-Will KitKat restrict access to my SD card? -->Yes but fixable through an app or editing a file (needs root), there is already a thread about that.
-Can I still use flash with KitKat? How?
-->Yes, there is a hacked version see 2nd post for link.
-How is the touchscreen driver? Is the stuttering fixed? Do touch and hold actions still drop after ~23sec?
-->Pretty much fixed. To about the same state as the improved Kernel we had a while ago.
-Are there any apps that are not working (root apps too)?
-Gesture Controls? --> works
-Xposed framework app settings? -->works
-Is Hancom Office included or does it still work? --> not included but does still work.
Thats about what I can think of a the moment.
Hi,
If you are already rooted then all you have to do is re install TWRP and then flash SU zip then you have root.
For flash player, download hacked version here, it works I tested it on new software :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/go...e-how-to-play-flash-video-android-4-t2548001
Also, xposed works. Tested it on new software
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Chainfire's Auto Root does work, once you flash it thru odin and reboot, go to the Play store and update the app.
- Please update OP
Here's a question: I'm already rooted. Is flashing the stock KitKat image via Odin and rerooting the only way to upgrade?
starfall42 said:
Here's a question: I'm already rooted. Is flashing the stock KitKat image via Odin and rerooting the only way to upgrade?
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If you are already rooted, I assume you have TWRP too. Just download this KitKat rom, full wipe and install.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2720631
Itchiee said:
Chainfire's Auto Root does work, once you flash it thru odin and reboot, go to the Play store and update the app.
- Please update OP
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Not for me I flashed a stock 4.4 kit kat on my tablet coming from root 4.3. I then flashed chainfire autoroot thru odin on the 4.4 and the superuser there only problem is it displays this ' There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install this is a problem! I formatted my 4.3 before flashing it maybe thats why?
itachi30s said:
Not for me I flashed a stock 4.4 kit kat on my tablet coming from root 4.3. I then flashed chainfire autoroot thru odin on the 4.4 and the superuser there only problem is it displays this ' There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install this is a problem! I formatted my 4.3 before flashing it maybe thats why?
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Not sure... I installed KK on the tablet via Odin, then rebooted and setup, then rebooted into download mode and flashed auto root thru Odin.
Upon reboot I got an error selecting SuperSU, but once I updated it thru the Play Store its been fine.
Using ES Explorer I removed the items I don't need and removed all of the Knox stuff.
There are a few of us this worked for so I don't know what went wrong for you.
If you don't succeed then try again, and again, and again....Good luck.
Do I have to update to kitkat bootloader?
gcrutchr said:
Do I have to update to kitkat bootloader?
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Not needed. The bootloader is same for 4.3 and 4.4
Itchiee said:
Not sure... I installed KK on the tablet via Odin, then rebooted and setup, then rebooted into download mode and flashed auto root thru Odin.
Upon reboot I got an error selecting SuperSU, but once I updated it thru the Play Store its been fine.
Using ES Explorer I removed the items I don't need and removed all of the Knox stuff.
There are a few of us this worked for so I don't know what went wrong for you.
If you don't succeed then try again, and again, and again....Good luck.
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Thx for the response from what i can see you never fully wipe your data before installing 4.4 KK but i did so i believe i lost my root like that. So when i updated the supersu never carried over from 4.3
Srikar_NBK said:
Not needed. The bootloader is same for 4.3 and 4.4
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Thanks.
Itchiee said:
Not sure... I installed KK on the tablet via Odin, then rebooted and setup, then rebooted into download mode and flashed auto root thru Odin.
Upon reboot I got an error selecting SuperSU, but once I updated it thru the Play Store its been fine.
Using ES Explorer I removed the items I don't need and removed all of the Knox stuff.
There are a few of us this worked for so I don't know what went wrong for you.
If you don't succeed then try again, and again, and again....Good luck.
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man you're awesome thx a bunch I saw my mistake, I was using chain fire root except the one I had downloaded from a third party site wasn't exactly for my device. Went to chainfire official site got the autoroot bam im rooted at.
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How do you get hancom office?
-Will KitKat restrict access to my SD card? -->Yes but fixable through an app or editing a file (needs root), there is already a thread about that.
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Sorry, but I cant find thread related to the issue .
What do you mean by `fixable through an app`? I`m not rooted and full stock.
Kit Kat SD Card Issue
clouds5 said:
Hi guys I have some questions about the new Firmware and KitKat in general and you may have answers I'll try to update first post with your answers!
-Will KitKat restrict access to my SD card? -->Yes but fixable through an app or editing a file (needs root), there is already a thread about that.
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Is this the app you are referring to? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2684188
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I intend on rooting this tablet. Am I better off rooting 4.3 and then flashing KK update? Or is it possible to update to KK and then root?
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I intend on rooting this tablet. Am I better off rooting 4.3 and then flashing KK update? Or is it possible to update to KK and then root?
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Both ways work equally well I was already rooted with 4.3 but either way has been confirmed working so it doesn't matter.
clouds5 said:
Both ways work equally well I was already rooted with 4.3 but either way has been confirmed working so it doesn't matter.
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Thank you. So any guide I find on rooting 4.3 should be the same procedure as 4.4?
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Thank you. So any guide I find on rooting 4.3 should be the same procedure as 4.4?
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Yes. Refer to this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2490805
I have an LG G3 on T-Mobile, running android 4.4.2 and my software version is D85110r. I downloaded and installed Stump Root and when I load the app it says "Device is already Rooted". Then I remember I had previously rooted the phone last summer when I got it. But I'm having issues with several apps not working because of root permission. So then I download and install SuperSU and when I run it, it gives me the message, "There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it." It then says something about if you have android 4.3 you need to re-root your phone. How do I proceed? Do I need to un-root my phone and then re-root? Thanks for any help you can provide!
Anyone?
same here. I am not on 4.3 but still getting the same message. Fix?
Leykis said:
I have an LG G3 on T-Mobile, running android 4.4.2 and my software version is D85110r. I downloaded and installed Stump Root and when I load the app it says "Device is already Rooted". Then I remember I had previously rooted the phone last summer when I got it. But I'm having issues with several apps not working because of root permission. So then I download and install SuperSU and when I run it, it gives me the message, "There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it." It then says something about if you have android 4.3 you need to re-root your phone. How do I proceed? Do I need to un-root my phone and then re-root? Thanks for any help you can provide!
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Hello! I had no problems rooting my F400k with this root tool.. I also tried rooting with Stump but it failed many times.. I suggest format your phone then try this root tool. Look at number 5 of this post.
Attached is the root tool. Good luck
Showtek1980 said:
Hello! I had no problems rooting my F400k with this root tool.. I also tried rooting with Stump but it failed many times.. I suggest format your phone then try this root tool. Look at number 5 of this post.
Attached is the root tool. Good luck
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This thing does not work as of JANUARY 17. The phone does not go into recovery mod, but just restarts once you click run.bat file
sharkoparko said:
This thing does not work as of JANUARY 17. The phone does not go into recovery mod, but just restarts once you click run.bat file
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You've flashed other root tools like Stump, etc.. right? It probably left some files behind after unrooting.. Factory reset and try that root tool again.. I've always used it and rooting was a breeze!:fingers-crossed::good: If you have updated to the latest firmware then maybe rooting isn't possible at the moment. Try downgrading to the previous version you had after you've factory resetted and used that root tool.. Good luck mate!
Let's make this quick. Received nougat update, decided to root device, nougat version is nrd90r, twrp recovery version is 3.0.2-2, superSU tells me that I properly have root, root apps ask for root, the root apps never end up working and now I just want lollipop back. Tried cm 13 nightly but the zip file errors every time and I've downloaded it many times. Can someone give me some help. All I need is a rooted phone that works with Xposed. Thanks in advance for the help
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Let's make this quick. Received nougat update, decided to root device, nougat version is nrd90r, twrp recovery version is 3.0.2-2, superSU tells me that I properly have root, root apps ask for root, the root apps never end up working and now I just want lollipop back. Tried cm 13 nightly but the zip file errors every time and I've downloaded it many times. Can someone give me some help. All I need is a rooted phone that works with Xposed. Thanks in advance for the help
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right now xposed isn't compatible with nougat anyway.
to got back to M or L follow section 11 of this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206930
after that you can install twrp, supersu and xposed again.
I kNow nougat doesn't have Xposed yet and I was content with waiting it out but root doesn't even work. And I have some Google app that need to be removed lol. Thanks for the help I'll get back to you on the process!
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Let's make this quick. Received nougat update, decided to root device, nougat version is nrd90r, twrp recovery version is 3.0.2-2, superSU tells me that I properly have root, root apps ask for root, the root apps never end up working and now I just want lollipop back. Tried cm 13 nightly but the zip file errors every time and I've downloaded it many times. Can someone give me some help. All I need is a rooted phone that works with Xposed. Thanks in advance for the help
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It isn't that root isn't working, is that the apps your using need an update on how they call su. Su has changed with Android n and some things need updates to support it
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@rbox Hey I keep getting notices that Su binary needs updating. Should I flash latest update via recovery?
I thought i saw mention of a fix for this but I can't seem to locate it again.
nujackk said:
@rbox Hey I keep getting notices that Su binary needs updating. Should I flash latest update via recovery?
I thought i saw mention of a fix for this but I can't seem to locate it again.
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Just dismiss the notification.
rbox said:
Just dismiss the notification.
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I've been doing that, just wondering if i can/should update ? Will It cause problems if i flash latest version?
got the same idea: just flash super su 2.79 sr3 should work?
That's what I'm thinking, just wanting rbox to confirm it shouldn't hose anything. I know some roms on phones don't work with latest versions. And since he is using such an old version, I'm think that might be the case here
Hmm i think i will try it next time. Create a backup and flash supersu.
Spillunke said:
Hmm i think i will try it next time. Create a backup and flash supersu.
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flashing/updating SuperSU is not working and you will lose root
Since SuperSU is now a system program. I think doing fresh installs are the most secure way to test newer versions.
What I was planning to test before the XPosed APK fix came out was to have the latest PreRooted ROM & manually change the inners of the SuperSU folder to the latest. Not just the APK but the binaries or what ever is included. And then flash that modded PreRooted Rom.
XPosed APK fix: http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/themes-apps/protip-how-to-supersu-xposed-app-t3552590/page1
I asked @rbox about it & he said it should be fine. At worst I think you will end up with a non-rooted FireOS 5 install but as long as it doesn't update (make sure you are only messing with the latest FW version) & you can still get into TWRP. Then you can flash the latest original PreRooted ROM to get back your root.
I might still do some testing regarding this in the next few days. Might try the latest beta, final & a few other versions since v2.46.
Y314K said:
Since SuperSU is now a system program. I think doing fresh installs are the most secure way to test newer versions.
What I was planning to test before the XPosed APK fix came out was to have the latest PreRooted ROM & manually change the inners of the SuperSU folder to the latest. Not just the APK but the binaries or what ever is included. And then flash that modded PreRooted Rom.
XPosed APK fix: http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/themes-apps/protip-how-to-supersu-xposed-app-t3552590/page1
I asked @rbox about it & he said it should be fine. At worst I think you will end up with a non-rooted FireOS 5 install but as long as it doesn't update (make sure you are only messing with the latest FW version) & you can still get into TWRP. Then you can flash the latest original PreRooted ROM to get back your root.
I might still do some testing regarding this in the next few days. Might try the latest beta, final & a few other versions since v2.46.
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Good luck! I always ended up with non-root after trying to replace/update SuperSU on my FireTVs
rainman74 said:
Good luck! I always ended up with non-root after trying to replace/update SuperSU on my FireTVs
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What FW where you on & what method did u try using ?
- manual clean up of apk installation first (system/apps & /data/app, but left /system/xbin/su)
- adb install eu.chainfire.supersu.vX.xx.apk (1.94, 1.97, 2.00, 2.4x,...)
- TWRP flash of UPDATE-SuperSU-vX.xx.zip (1.94, 1.97, 2.00, 2.4x,...)
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rainman74 said:
- manual clean up of apk installation first (system/apps & /data/app, but left /system/xbin/su)
- adb install eu.chainfire.supersu.vX.xx.apk (1.94, 1.97, 2.00, 2.4x,...)
- TWRP flash of UPDATE-SuperSU-vX.xx.zip (1.94, 1.97, 2.00, 2.4x,...)
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Although it is much more of a pain to do fresh installs. I think when dealing with root it should be more stable to mess with it that way.
One can also do the build.prop mod to stop updates if one wants to test older FW versions.
Y314K said:
Since SuperSU is now a system program. I think doing fresh installs are the most secure way to test newer versions.
What I was planning to test before the XPosed APK fix came out was to have the latest PreRooted ROM & manually change the inners of the SuperSU folder to the latest. Not just the APK but the binaries or what ever is included. And then flash that modded PreRooted Rom.
XPosed APK fix: http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/themes-apps/protip-how-to-supersu-xposed-app-t3552590/page1
I asked @rbox about it & he said it should be fine. At worst I think you will end up with a non-rooted FireOS 5 install but as long as it doesn't update (make sure you are only messing with the latest FW version) & you can still get into TWRP. Then you can flash the latest original PreRooted ROM to get back your root.
I might still do some testing regarding this in the next few days. Might try the latest beta, final & a few other versions since v2.46.
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First thanks for the link to the xposed fix:good: And now that you mention it I don't know why i didn't think of that sooner, should be relatively easy to just replace the files in the zip with 7zip DUH. Only problem is I have everything all setup perfect.
I have the Fire TV 1 and had TWRP and Pre Rooted 5.2.4.1 FW installed. Yesterday during a restart the FTV started boot looping. I could see the option for TWRP recovery though.
I booted into TWRP recovery and reflashed the Pre Rooted 5..2.4.1. The FTV now booted but I have lost both TWRP and SuperSu as well. When I type su into an adb shell I got su not found?
Updated were blocked through the device as well.
Anyone else experience this? What can I do now to get TWRP installed and root established?
Help anyone?
Bump ^
Did you do any factory reset or something? I don't know how you could have lost SU and twrp when installing the prerooted roms. All apps say no root? i wonder if you did a factory reset if it would help or re-installed whatever version you were on when you rooted? I'm a novice so don't blame me for bricking! lol
Michajin said:
Did you do any factory reset or something? I don't know how you could have lost SU and twrp when installing the prerooted roms. All apps say no root? i wonder if you did a factory reset if it would help or re-installed whatever version you were on when you rooted? I'm a novice so don't blame me for bricking! lol
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Thats why I am stumped! I did not do any factory resets or wipes. I simply selected rbox's rooted 5.2.4.1 ROM, installed and rebooted. Now I dont see the initial boot screen when the fire tv restarts. Just the regular animation.
is your bootloader unlocked? I don't have any rooted FTV1's. I think you could reflash the recovery if your unlocked....
Michajin said:
is your bootloader unlocked? I don't have any rooted FTV1's. I think you could reflash the recovery if your unlocked....
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Unfortunately I don't think my bootloader is unlocked
pspTP said:
Unfortunately I don't think my bootloader is unlocked
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all i can think of is try to root with a USB A to A cable, i think that was possible. From appstarter do you see anything non-stock?
Michajin said:
all i can think of is try to root with a USB A to A cable, i think that was possible. From appstarter do you see anything non-stock?
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Since I had installed rBox's 5.2.4.1 rooted ROM when I had root, thats what I am on now except without root now. I had blocked updates on the device so thankfully that is still in place. And according to aftvnews, this version cannot be rooted.
I do have a bunch of non stock apps that I had installed that are still present on the device.
pspTP said:
Since I had installed rBox's 5.2.4.1 rooted ROM when I had root, thats what I am on now except without root now. I had blocked updates on the device so thankfully that is still in place. And according to aftvnews, this version cannot be rooted.
I do have a bunch of non stock apps that I had installed that are still present on the device.
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you ever try to sideload SuperSU? Or run a root app that requests access and seen if it just says access denied? Just throwing out ideas to try, I didn't see anyone else trying to help. If you flashed pre-rooted version then i would think some of the exploits are still in your system.
Michajin said:
you ever try to sideload SuperSU? Or run a root app that requests access and seen if it just says access denied? Just throwing out ideas to try, I didn't see anyone else trying to help. If you flashed pre-rooted version then i would think some of the exploits are still in your system.
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I downloaded the latest supersu and sideloaded it. When I run it there is simply a blank screen and back to where I was. Nothing happens.
Now in appstarter I can see two versions of su, one from before and the latest one. Running either does not do anything.
I had Adaway installed before as well. If I run it now, it just comes back with not a rooted device
Do you still have TWRP? You should be able to flash SuperSU that way.
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Do you still have TWRP? You should be able to flash SuperSU that way.
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No thats the kicker, I lost both TWRP and root.
It is a long shot, but you could try kingo root and king root, see if they can get root access. I know they dont work on a firetv stock for rooting, but something must have flashed wrong and maybe they can find a way into root.
Curious though, every time you have flashed the pre-rooted OS did you always disable the updates every time?
Michajin said:
It is a long shot, but you could try kingo root and king root, see if they can get root access. I know they dont work on a firetv stock for rooting, but something must have flashed wrong and maybe they can find a way into root.
Curious though, every time you have flashed the pre-rooted OS did you always disable the updates every time?
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I believe the pre-rooted OS has that setting disabled in the first place.
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I believe the pre-rooted OS has that setting disabled in the first place.
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AFTVnews always recommends disabling updates to be sure. It almost seems like you got updated. Try running Kingroot. Worst case it fails and you are still where you are at...