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Since I've found Voodoo Sound, I've been aware of alternatives, such as PowerAmp. I never did try PowerAmp today, I must say, it does seem to blow Voodoo Sound of the water, not sure if this is just because of the equalizer, or if Voodoo is still a better option, or if its best to have both on.
As I understand it, PowerAmp is just offering a software optimized equalizer giving you that nice virtual experience of good quality music, while Voodoo Sound is supposedly tapping out the potential of the Wolfson Sound's Hardware.
Opinions and clarifications are much appreciated, do share if you know of something better, just spill your thoughts.
Feel free to include the Rom you prefer for music, the apk you prefer fo music, and what tweaks you're using for music, as well as the earphones/headphones you listen in with.
I'm setup this way:
Rom: CM9 Beta 1
Music Apk: Usually Stock CM9 Music, with DSP Manager uninstalled, atm trying PowerAmp though.
Tweaks: I have Voodoo Sound Plus, trying to listen to music with PowerAmp and Voodoo Sound on.
Listening through: In-ear Phones, Sennheiser CX300's.
Edit: *Disclaimer!* this is probably my third thread this year that is a semi-question asking for your opinions as well as general discussion.
To be on the safe side, I posted in Q&A to avoid getting *****ed at.
Shinydude100 said:
Since I've found Voodoo Sound, I've been aware of alternatives, such as PowerAmp. I never did try PowerAmp today, I must say, it does seem to blow Voodoo Sound of the water, not sure if this is just because of the equalizer, or if Voodoo is still a better option, or if its best to have both on.
As I understand it, PowerAmp is just offering a software optimized equalizer giving you that nice virtual experience of good quality music, while Voodoo Sound is supposedly tapping out the potential of the Wolfson Sound's Hardware.
Opinions and clarifications are much appreciated, do share if you know of something better, just spill your thoughts.
Feel free to include the Rom you prefer for music, the apk you prefer fo music, and what tweaks you're using for music, as well as the earphones/headphones you listen in with.
I'm setup this way:
Rom: CM9 Beta 1
Music Apk: Usually Stock CM9 Music, with DSP Manager uninstalled, atm trying PowerAmp though.
Tweaks: I have Voodoo Sound Plus, trying to listen to music with PowerAmp and Voodoo Sound on.
Listening through: In-ear Phones, Sennheiser CX300's.
Edit: *Disclaimer!* this is probably my third thread this year that is a semi-question asking for your opinions as well as general discussion.
To be on the safe side, I posted in Q&A to avoid getting *****ed at.
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Soo what's your question exactly? I use Voodoo Sound and Have Bass Boost on and set to sub bass, also will use Power Amp Eq and top that out so it sounds nice plus having a good set of head phones and all is good, what are you trying to figure out is my question.
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Soo what's your question exactly? I use Voodoo Sound and Have Bass Boost on and set to sub bass, also will use Power Amp Eq and top that out so it sounds nice plus having a good set of head phones and all is good, what are you trying to figure out is my question.
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If it's really necessary to have both voodoo control and poweramp or of using both is an overkill, also looking for what others are setup, maybe things they've discovered on each to be better or worse, and what headphone earphones they use.
Hence the title, "voice your preference."
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If it's really necessary to have both voodoo control and poweramp or of using both is an overkill, also looking for what others are setup, maybe things they've discovered on each to be better or worse, and what headphone earphones they use.
Hence the title, "voice your preference."
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its defiantly not an overkill it a helper to make better haha. But Running CM7 and using the Klipsch S4
Did you need to quote the op?.. no... its a given that your answering about the OP just sayin.
I'm not quite an audiophile but do enjoy my clear a crisp music. I'm running cm9b1 with my compiled samurai kernel. I use voodoo sound and have my amplifier "deal" at -5 instead of 10 and on bass boost I have it on standard with the db at 8 and the range at 80%.
I also use equalizer off the market have the paid version so I have one of my profiles in a V the left starts towards the top the 2nd is towards the middle and the middle is just shy of the bottom and the last two are similar to the first two if you catch my drift... it makes a V . Have the same deal on my laptop with beats audio the control is setup in a v like design... seems to be a sweet spot to me. Or at least my ears... I listen to a lot of metalcore.. usually their "screams" or dirty vocals aren't very clear but with setup I can hear it all.. with comprehension.
Oh and I have some 17$ phillips and they sound great.. =] have lasted me almost a year now... much longer than ANY headphones I've ever owned.. usually the part by the jack wears/ shorts out and its time for new ones.... not with these.
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I use poweramp and voodoo sound on cm9.
Why not?
CM9b1
Voodoo sound plus
Neutron Music Player
Earsonics SM3 IEMs
Sometimes Headstage arrow 3G portable amp when I can pry it out of my wife's hands
What you need to understand is that Voodoo Sound Control increases power to the device's built in hardware amplifier. This is where it's at. If you can't tell the sound quality difference between the software and hardware amplifiers, you probably shouldn't even use something like Voodoo Sound Control.
The Galaxy S models are among few devices available that have a configurable hardware amplifier. Typically, the volume rockers on phones control the software amplifier, while the hardware amplifier is locked to a single output. This is probably due to output limitations determined by the manufacturer in order avoid lawsuits involving inner ear damage, in the event of an immediate volume change (we're all familiar with Android's rather mediocre sound control quirks due to hardware fragmentation).
Try this:
- Disable Voodoo sound or set it back to default system values, and disable all sound modifications.
- Plug your phone into your car stereo or home speaker system with the 1/8" jack, and crank the volume on your phone all the way up, using Android's system media volume.
- Then, crank up your stereo. It probably sounds like balls.
Okay, now let's experiment with the hardware amplifier.
- Now back the media volume down a few notches to around 80%.
- Increase Voodoo Sound's amplifier controls to +2db or so, enable Hi-fi play, etc. Keep the media volume at around 80%.
- Turn up the volume on your stereo system again. I will be absolutely damned if you don't notice a difference.
PowerAmp's "pre amp" is just an additional software amplifier "boost." Although handy for increasing the volume on particularly quiet MP3 files, it will cause distortion in the same way any software amplifier will. If anything, you will want to lower "pre amp" a tad if you plan to increase the Android media volume to 100%, but in the end, the resulting distortion will always be proportional the the volume.
Props to the developer for Voodoo Sound. It really changed the way I listen to music. Before I buy my next device, I am going to make sure it will eventually be compatible with Voodoo Sound Control.
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What you need to understand is that Voodoo Sound Control increases power to the device's built in hardware amplifier. This is where it's at. If you can't tell the sound quality difference between the software and hardware amplifiers, you probably shouldn't even use something like Voodoo Sound Control.
The Galaxy S models are among few devices available that have a configurable hardware amplifier. Typically, the volume rockers on phones control the software amplifier, while the hardware amplifier is locked to a single output. This is probably due to output limitations determined by the manufacturer in order avoid lawsuits involving inner ear damage, in the event of an immediate volume change (we're all familiar with Android's rather mediocre sound control quirks due to hardware fragmentation).
Try this:
- Disable Voodoo sound or set it back to default system values, and disable all sound modifications.
- Plug your phone into your car stereo or home speaker system with the 1/8" jack, and crank the volume on your phone all the way up, using Android's system media volume.
- Then, crank up your stereo. It probably sounds like balls.
Okay, now let's experiment with the hardware amplifier.
- Now back the media volume down a few notches to around 80%.
- Increase Voodoo Sound's amplifier controls to +2db or so, enable Hi-fi play, etc. Keep the media volume at around 80%.
- Turn up the volume on your stereo system again. I will be absolutely damned if you don't notice a difference.
PowerAmp's "pre amp" is just an additional software amplifier "boost." Although handy for increasing the volume on particularly quiet MP3 files, it will cause distortion in the same way any software amplifier will. If anything, you will want to lower "pre amp" a tad if you plan to increase the Android media volume to 100%, but in the end, the resulting distortion will always be proportional the the volume.
Props to the developer for Voodoo Sound. It really changed the way I listen to music. Before I buy my next device, I am going to make sure it will eventually be compatible with Voodoo Sound Control.
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This. So much. Thank you for this educated post.
Hardware amplifier > software amplifier.
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I rely on voodoo sound to maximize my overall hardware output, especially getting that lower level ooompf that the phone generally lacks.
This is especially helpful when using a music player without any sound control- most notably Pandora.
Poweramp is my preferred mp3 player app, and has some nice tweaks I can make when I need to- like if a particular mp3 sounds dull I can turn the tone on or adjust the octaves. Overall I usually have the preamp turned up just to get more volume out of the device.
Definitely Max out voodoo. never completely Max out the phone's volume level, doing so causes distortion.
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Equalizer>Poweramp.. just saying works on all sounds on the phone not just the app.... helps make pandora listenable and my mp3's like a studio... or close to my laptop with beats =]
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Of course your going to get a ton of different opinions in this thread, everyones ears hear things different, so instead of arguing or denying what other people hear, I'll just give you my 2 cents.
I use Voodoo AND Poweramp together through a pretty cheap set of Skullcandy Titans listening to predominantly metal/punk/progressive music. Voodoo is mostly used by me to have a more fine tuned volume control, and to reduce/prevent distortion like so many have mentioned earlier. If you notice the stock volume control only has like 9 steps, where Voodoo can go up by 1-2 db at a time. This gives you alot more fine tuning possible with your volume level. I've found stock android steps are either too quiet, or too loud once I bump it a notch...
Oh and then theres the poweramp side, I just have always loved poweramp, even been a fanboy. Since the days of Android Music players where NOBODY had an EQ I've been using it with great success. I've tried the stock music player/EQ, PlayerPro, as well as 5-6 others I've only kept for a day or two, and my ears always take my back to poweramp. Other music players may tout the same features, but to me Poweramp just sounds better to ME personally. My best buddy has the same phone, same rom setup, and prefers Voodoo and stock music player though... again it's just a matter of what your ears like to hear.
glen_e said:
What you need to understand is that Voodoo Sound Control increases power to the device's built in hardware amplifier. This is where it's at. If you can't tell the sound quality difference between the software and hardware amplifiers, you probably shouldn't even use something like Voodoo Sound Control.
The Galaxy S models are among few devices available that have a configurable hardware amplifier. Typically, the volume rockers on phones control the software amplifier, while the hardware amplifier is locked to a single output. This is probably due to output limitations determined by the manufacturer in order avoid lawsuits involving inner ear damage, in the event of an immediate volume change (we're all familiar with Android's rather mediocre sound control quirks due to hardware fragmentation).
Try this:
- Disable Voodoo sound or set it back to default system values, and disable all sound modifications.
- Plug your phone into your car stereo or home speaker system with the 1/8" jack, and crank the volume on your phone all the way up, using Android's system media volume.
- Then, crank up your stereo. It probably sounds like balls.
Okay, now let's experiment with the hardware amplifier.
- Now back the media volume down a few notches to around 80%.
- Increase Voodoo Sound's amplifier controls to +2db or so, enable Hi-fi play, etc. Keep the media volume at around 80%.
- Turn up the volume on your stereo system again. I will be absolutely damned if you don't notice a difference.
PowerAmp's "pre amp" is just an additional software amplifier "boost." Although handy for increasing the volume on particularly quiet MP3 files, it will cause distortion in the same way any software amplifier will. If anything, you will want to lower "pre amp" a tad if you plan to increase the Android media volume to 100%, but in the end, the resulting distortion will always be proportional the the volume.
Props to the developer for Voodoo Sound. It really changed the way I listen to music. Before I buy my next device, I am going to make sure it will eventually be compatible with Voodoo Sound Control.
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Oh no, trust me, I do know what Voodoo Sound does, I did need a post like yours to confirm my speculation on Hardware Amp > Software Amp though. So far, after reading everyone's replies, I think I'm going to definitely continue to primarily use Voodoo Sound, and use an equalizer off the market, or poweramp's equalizer. Thank you all for taking the time to voice your setups and preferences. Much appreciated!
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Love the info this thread has provided, I have a pair of creative aurvana neodinium DJ headphones and without voodoo control they are generally too quiet to enjoy, however without proper EQ's I cannot listen to certain artists (kid cudi) without hearing craclkes and pops due to the limitations of the neodinium speakers.
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Love the info this thread has provided, I have a pair of creative aurvana neodinium DJ headphones and without voodoo control they are generally too quiet to enjoy, however without proper EQ's I cannot listen to certain artists (kid cudi) without hearing craclkes and pops due to the limitations of the neodinium speakers.
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Try messing with miui equalizer settings I have a great set up
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Cm9b1....run voodoo plus. Set of shure ec2's, a pretty ok car system, and a polk studio speaker home system with a nice denon amp. I think I killed my hearing back in high school, but I've realized now that a "clean" or pure source makes the best sound for me. I can't hear minute differences that well but I CAN usually tell.....good to bad. My old crappy mp3 player with cheap headphones compared to my epic with the shure's is obvious. But I can't really tell you why
I do need to do that software/hardware comparison though. And I've never used poweramp.....ill have to try it.
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Neutron + Voodoo Sound + Galaxy S + AKG 319
I actually usually turn my phone media volume to 100% and leave voodoo at -2db, ill try turning down my media and turning up voodoo
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I have done extensive testing with both my HTC One and Samsung Galaxy Nexus regarding the phantom ringing noise that exists on bluetooth audio. This issue is not only present on streaming bluetooth audio but also present when the sound file is kept on the actual phone (using Google Play Music). So far I have tried the following:
1) Tried multiple roms both sense and aosp - the ringing/buzzing noise still exists on both (DEFINITION - PHANTOM RINGING/BUZZING NOISE - a buzzing series of overtones that exists particularly when listening to jazz music that has a lot of ride and crash cymbals being played) As a professional musician, this can be quite annoying.
2) Tried going back and forth between bluetooth and auxiliary cable on both phones (HTC One and Galaxy Nexus), trying AOSP vs. SENSE roms, streaming vs. non streaming. Both phones and all roms have the same issue present, the bluetooth audio has a fuzzy clarity to the cymbals. It is worth mentioning that the AOSP roms are slightly better in terms of less Phantom ringing/buzzing but far from perfect.
My question is, does anyone have a fix for this? I paid big bucks to have Bluetooth installed in my car and really want to use it.
The auxiliary cable sounds good until you plug your phone charger in.....that presents an even larger noise issue. Please help.
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I have done extensive testing with both my HTC One and Samsung Galaxy Nexus regarding the phantom ringing noise that exists on bluetooth audio. This issue is not only present on streaming bluetooth audio but also present when the sound file is kept on the actual phone (using Google Play Music). So far I have tried the following:
1) Tried multiple roms both sense and aosp - the ringing/buzzing noise still exists on both (DEFINITION - PHANTOM RINGING/BUZZING NOISE - a buzzing series of overtones that exists particularly when listening to jazz music that has a lot of ride and crash cymbals being played) As a professional musician, this can be quite annoying.
2) Tried going back and forth between bluetooth and auxiliary cable on both phones (HTC One and Galaxy Nexus), trying AOSP vs. SENSE roms, streaming vs. non streaming. Both phones and all roms have the same issue present, the bluetooth audio has a fuzzy clarity to the cymbals. It is worth mentioning that the AOSP roms are slightly better in terms of less Phantom ringing/buzzing but far from perfect.
My question is, does anyone have a fix for this? I paid big bucks to have Bluetooth installed in my car and really want to use it.
The auxiliary cable sounds good until you plug your phone charger in.....that presents an even larger noise issue. Please help.
Thanks,
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if 2 phones and different roms still cause the problem then it might be your BT system.
what music player are you using / do any of them have an EQ system you can adjust.
what BT system do you have?
synisterwolf said:
if 2 phones and different roms still cause the problem then it might be your BT system.
what music player are you using / do any of them have an EQ system you can adjust.
what BT system do you have?
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I am using an Audiovox Media bridge, however, I do not think that is the issue due to the fact that the issue improves slightly on the Aosp ROM. Additionally, when I run the aux through the media bridge I have no issues.
I am using Google play music. I have tried adjusting the EQ using Viper ROM 5.0 and have had no success. Any other ideas?
Hello. I change phones alot and have noticed that some phones(all android) have better bluetooth playback than others.
I had a oneplus 7 pro before this phone and the bluetooth quality to my truck was great and had no issues but with this phone the highs sounds scratchy or like if the speaker is bad. But if i connect it with a wire connection it sounds great. Everything with the 2 phones is the same. On both i was using the galaxy watch and pretty much the same apps. On a previous phone the note 8 i had the same issue but it was a different car. Seems like its the way samsung handles bluetooth.
Has anyone had this issue? If so was there a fix?
Thanks
make sure not on mic
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make sure not on mic
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What do you mean?
The only two things I think about is the codec used that may be different across devices, and the Bluetooth settings that sync the phones volume with the headset (the differences are noticeable).
Since no DAC is used in Bluetooth, I don't think it can comes from them, for a same headset.
On Samsung phones you should run the adapt sound process. Try this.
I tried with the sync volume off too and no improvement.
I looked for the adapt sound and my phone doesn't have that setting. Or is it something different?
It's in Sounds and Vibration 》 Advanced Sound settings 》Sound Quality and effects 》 Adapt sound
You have to do this in a quiet place and ensure to answer honestly. If you can't hear the beeping press no.
After doing this the sound quality is night and day difference.
Ok found it. Ill play with it a bit. Thanks
I've had issues sometimes with audio being piped through the "Calls" Bluetooth channel versus the "Audio" channel so worth checking as the quality is obviously night and day.
I also like enabling Dolby Atmos on my Note 10+ for music so worth playing with too. Additionally, I recently found Samsung's Sound Assistant app which let's you customize a bunch of sound settings so worth checking out as well:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.android.soundassistant
sansnil said:
I've had issues sometimes with audio being piped through the "Calls" Bluetooth channel versus the "Audio" channel so worth checking as the quality is obviously night and day.
I also like enabling Dolby Atmos on my Note 10+ for music so worth playing with too. Additionally, I recently found Samsung's Sound Assistant app which let's you customize a bunch of sound settings so worth checking out as well:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.android.soundassistant
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Is there an easy way to tell if the audio is going through the call channel?
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Is there an easy way to tell if the audio is going through the call channel?
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Easiest is probably just uncheck calls in your phones BT settings for your truck (and make sure audio is enabled). If the sound is still not great then this isn't the issue.
Sorry to respond to an old thread, but I was wondering if any of this fixed the OP's problem. I followed all the recommendations here and on other threads but have not been able to solve my recent Bluetooth audio problem. The sound has been terrible lately.
Same issue here on my s10+. When playing any audio in my car via BT i hear the distortion/hissing noise especially when the song has a higher treble frequency.
I have just about tried all fixes i could find on Google, and no luck.
When connecting to my ear buds (Jabra Elite 65t) it disappears and checked in developer mode that it supports to AAC for BT Codecs.
But when connecting to the car it reverts to SBC.
The issue clearly lies on Samsungs side, as my brother has a Huawei p30 Pro, also has bluetooth 5 and plays amazingly well in all aspects (Bass-Mids-Treble).
I know I'm posting this almost a year later, but i am desperately looking for a fix.
SN. I have recently updated my phone to Android 10, despite all the complaints to Samsung from many users... Sadly this issue has not being fixed on my side.
From what i see online, people have given up on Samsung and opted for Rooting their Samsungs and installing Viper4Andriod.
Has any one done this and can confirm that it fixed the issue?
As part of the Hi-Fi audio DAC, there's only 3 digital filter settings: Short, Sharp, and Slow. Is there a way to tweak one of these settings to another filter (like the "short delay slow roll-off" filter)? I'm not a huge audiophile but I used to have the HTC 10 that had this setting built in, and it completely changes the listening experience for me. If there's any solution I'd be super thankful haha.
I'd like to reach out to anyone still having issues with USB DACs on the 6 and 6 Pro
The 6 and 6 Pro still have a bug where they don't properly pass on original audio streams to connected DACs. Depending on the DAC, you'll hear screeching, no audio at all, or severely reduced audio quality due to resampling by the OS. Apps like UAPP and Tidal don't work properly because they can't directly access connected DACs (so true MQA playback is impossible)
If you are affected by this bug, please star and comment on the buganizer tickets here, here and here. It would be worth our while to use the Send Feedback option within settings, and/or contact support to raise a ticket and submit bug reports (I realize this does take some time investment)
Hopefully I'm not the only crazy one using a DAC with a P6 screaming out into the ether. Help
More on what I'm talking about here, here, and here
yeah - something weird is going on. I love this phone so much. my Hidisz Sonata USBC DAC is completely hit or miss, sometimes it works, other times it won't. And the BTR5 can't play LDAC at full Audio quality only Adaptive - but both devices work on the 3 XL no problem, since day one. really weird.
That's weird, do you mean DAC connected via usb? I ask because my BT DAC is working great via LDAC codec.
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That's weird, do you mean DAC connected via usb? I ask because my BT DAC is working great via LDAC codec.
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USB DACs like the Sonata from Hidisz, or the BTR3/BTR5/Qudelix etc
I have the same problem, and sometimes it stops the music itself, pretty annoying
Guess I was one of the first guys to report this issue. December update did not fix it. Google removed the headphone jack and forces people to use DACs and Dongles, but they did not do any test to ensure all STANDARD products are working correctly. You can use those DACs with 100$ phones and get better audio than with a pixel 6 or 6 pro. It's a joke and impedance from Google and definitely the last phone I bought.
And just to mention, I have some experience with android audio. I was working with the guys from sauron audio port and did a lot of other stuff. The DAC which seem to work are just playing with native/android software processed sampling rates. This is ****ty low quality. Any app, which tries to connect directly to the external DAC to play high res and bypass Android audio processing crashes. So buy a 10 dollar DAC, as any more expensive better solution won't work or gives you same crappy audio.
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Guess I was one of the first guys to report this issue. December update did not fix it. Google removed the headphone jack and forces people to use DACs and Dongles, but on they did not do any tests to ensure all STANDARD products are working correctly. You can use those DACa on 100$ phones and get better audio than with a pixel 6 or 6 pro. It's a joke and impedance from Google and definitely the last phone I bought.
And just to mention, I have some experience with android audio. I was working with the guys from sauron audio port and did a lot of other stuff. The DAC which seem to work are just playing with native/android software processed sampling rates. This is ****ty low quality. Any app, which tries to connect directly to the external DAC to play high res and bypass Android audio processing crashes. So buy a 10 dollar DAC, as any more expensive better solution won't work or gives you same crappy audio.
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I appreciated seeing your thread about this and I've quoted it while contacting support. Best we can do is star and comment on those issuetracker pages linked above, and in settings, Send Feedback and contact support to submit bug reports
It's frustrating because DACs work fine on literally every other Android or iOS device (my Note 3 from 2013 still has no issues with this)
Even more frustrating is that if you try to use a Bluetooth LDAC DAC, you can't force 990 kbps. That's a separate issue
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That's weird, do you mean DAC connected via usb? I ask because my BT DAC is working great via LDAC codec.
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Are you able to force it to run at 990 kbps without stuttering? Different common issue it seems, equally frustrating
Google Pixel 6 bug is preventing audiophiles from using external DAC to listen to music
there's a few things wrong here. #1 is regular $15 DACs in many cases don't work (let alone $100-$300 ones). #2 you can't force 990kbps most of the time (in the 3 Bluetooth DACs I've tried and many others also, it constantly studders). so there's a few things wrong here that need to be looked at and resolved by Google.
I haven't experienced any of the "major" issues - mainly connectivity related. But I'm expecting things to go south once I receive my A.Q. Dragonfly Cobalt DAC/AMP. I have some nice Bluetooth phones that sound very nice, buy nowhere near the sound quality I receive through my LG G-7.
The G-7 has a pair of ESS DACs, and a more powerful amp setup. I found Qobuz's MQA files and the Tidal Masters that sound phenomenal. Especially ultra-high quality remasters of late 80's-90's albums.
The V-60 had a similar setup, but I traded that in for the P6 Pro, 256GB model. Qobuz and Tidal let you download MQA files while your subscription is active.
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I haven't experienced any of the "major" issues - mainly connectivity related. But I'm expecting things to go south once I receive my A.Q. Dragonfly Cobalt DAC/AMP. I have some nice Bluetooth phones that sound very nice, buy nowhere near the sound quality I receive through my LG G-7.
The G-7 has a pair of ESS DACs, and a more powerful amp setup. I found Qobuz's MQA files and the Tidal Masters that sound phenomenal. Especially ultra-high quality remasters of late 80's-90's albums.
The V-60 had a similar setup, but I traded that in for the P6 Pro, 256GB model. Qobuz and Tidal let you download MQA files while your subscription is active.
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I was hoping against hope that someone has a P6/Pro with the same DAC to learn of the their experiences so far.
Tried that DAC; all audio gets resampled to 48 kHz I believe (so no direct access/true MQA playback). Patiently waiting to see if the January update fixes this
My Hidizs DAC works fine on the November .036 OS. About to reboot with January and expect it to work so I hope....
Havent tried my older DragonFly. Now just wish USB Audio Player Pro gets updated for the 6....
I reached out to the developers of USB Audio Player Pro as it has been removed from the Play Store for the 6 and 6 Pro. Here is their reply:
"Dear Robert,
True. The Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro have a kernel bug that prevents third party USB audio driver from working, that's why we excluded it from the Play Store. We reported the issue to Google but we do not know when or whether they will fix it. You can track it here:
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/210687963
We have verified all other apps that utilize their own USB audio driver and they do not work either, or fallback to the low quality Android driver. You can write that all apps that use the USB host API to play audio to a USB DAC do not work on the Pixel 6, including USB Audio Player PRO, Tidal, Neutron, Hiby, etc.
You can install this apk if you really want to run the app:
https://www.audio-evolution.com/priv_downloads/USBAudioPlayerPRO_6032c_pixel6.apk
Then you can turn off 'Use USB DAC' in the app's USB audio tweaks if you want to use the Android USB audio driver."
Kind regards,
Davy
eXtream Software Development
https://www.extreamsd.com
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AudioEvolutionMobile
Twitter: https://twitter.com/extreamsd
If anyone finds out that Google has fixed the issue, please let us know. Someone on Reddit said XDA has a workaround? If so, please provide a link to the thread or sub-thread.
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I reached out to the developers of USB Audio Player Pro as it has been removed from the Play Store for the 6 and 6 Pro. Here is there reply:
"Dear Robert,
True. The Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro have a kernel bug that prevents third party USB audio driver from working, that's why we excluded it from the Play Store. We reported the issue to Google but we do not know when or whether they will fix it. You can track it here:
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/210687963
We have verified all other apps that utilize their own USB audio driver and they do not work either, or fallback to the low quality Android driver. You can write that all apps that use the USB host API to play audio to a USB DAC do not work on the Pixel 6, including USB Audio Player PRO, Tidal, Neutron, Hiby, etc.
You can install this apk if you really want to run the app:
https://www.audio-evolution.com/priv_downloads/USBAudioPlayerPRO_6032c_pixel6.apk
Then you can turn off 'Use USB DAC' in the app's USB audio tweaks if you want to use the Android USB audio driver."
Kind regards,
Davy
eXtream Software Development
https://www.extreamsd.com
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AudioEvolutionMobile
Twitter: https://twitter.com/extreamsd
If anyone finds out that Google has fixed the issue, please let us know. Someone on Reddit said XDA has a workaround? If so, please provide a link to the thread or sub-thread.
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Everyone should star (*) that issue.
cmh714 said:
My Hidizs DAC works fine on the November .036 OS. About to reboot with January and expect it to work so I hope....
Havent tried my older DragonFly. Now just wish USB Audio Player Pro gets updated for the 6....
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You would have a special Pixel 6, if your DAC really works in bit perfect mode... Like tidal MQA, USB Audio Player Pro and others.
I would state, it's impossible. Neither November, December or January Update fixes this issue.
You are playing low quality resampled music. Most DACs are capable of way more.
Nemuritor01 said:
You would have a special Pixel 6, if your DAC really works in bit perfect mode... Like tidal MQA, USB Audio Player Pro and others.
I would state, it's impossible. Neither November, December or January Update fixes this issue.
You are playing low quality resampled music. Most DACs are capable of way more.
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You Are CORRECT!!! I miswrote previously....I concur, external DAC does NOT work!!
Can confirm that the January update does not fix this issue.
Everyone, please star comment on the issuetracker threads in the OP, and continue to Send Feedback and Contact support from the Settings app
I don't know whether this magisk module would help you or not:
GitHub - Magisk-Modules-Alt-Repo/usb-samplerate-unlocker: USB (HAL) Audio Class drivers on Android have a limiter of sample rates at 96kHz. This magisk module unlocks the limiter.
USB (HAL) Audio Class drivers on Android have a limiter of sample rates at 96kHz. This magisk module unlocks the limiter. - GitHub - Magisk-Modules-Alt-Repo/usb-samplerate-unlocker: USB (HAL) Audi...
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