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Hi,
I've had my Archos G9 80 updated to the latest android official 4.0.5 from and since then i'm expriencing lots of crushes and freezes. I'm getting them randomly with no specific app working.
Also, i have tried to do full formats (Android + Data), and still having same issues.
Does anyone have any idea what else i can try?
Thanks.
I had lots of freezes too (not only with the latest firmware). They seem to be gone since I changed the CPU govenor from "hotplug" to "interactive". I'm not sure yet that it was the reason, but try it and let us know if it helps.
DeeDroid said:
I changed the CPU govenor from "hotplug" to "interactive".
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how this is done? Ι have the same problem!
africa_twin said:
how this is done? Ι have the same problem!
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Yes, can this be done from the phone itself? Within the ROM?
You can set this in any tool that is intended for overclocking. I don't overclock, I only changed the Govenor.
I use "SetCPU". ("No-frills CPU Control" should do the same.)
So does this have any other effects on the phone?
RichWPX said:
So does this have any other effects on the phone?
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Nothing too serious. Your CPU is clocked dynamically so it doesn't run full speed when there is nothing to compute(save energy). To my understanding the govenor is basically a policy to manage how quickly the frequency steps up/down on changing CPU load. So "powersave" is supposed to save energy but make the system a little less reactive than "interactive" Governor for example. I think I read somewhere "hotplug" deactivates the second core on low load situations, I suspect for some strange reason my device might have crashed sometimes on trying to wake up the sleeping second core. Well maybe I'm wrong, that's why I'm interested if it helps others.
I didn't notice any change in battery lifetime, mostly it's the display anyway that drains the battery. Everything is running well, battery lifetime is great too and no crash/freeze at all since i changed that setting and it crashed almost every damn day before, no matter if it was Honeycomb or ICS.
I downgraded the device to 4.0.4 and since then, no crushes.. I guess for some reason 4.0.5 isn't stable on my device.. ill stick with this version unroll they get another one out..
To downgrade, just install official update file of the version you want to upgrade to..
DeeDroid said:
Nothing too serious. Your CPU is clocked dynamically so it doesn't run full speed when there is nothing to compute(save energy). To my understanding the govenor is basically a policy to manage how quickly the frequency steps up/down on changing CPU load. So "powersave" is supposed to save energy but make the system a little less reactive than "interactive" Governor for example. I think I read somewhere "hotplug" deactivates the second core on low load situations, I suspect for some strange reason my device might have crashed sometimes on trying to wake up the sleeping second core. Well maybe I'm wrong, that's why I'm interested if it helps others.
I didn't notice any change in battery lifetime, mostly it's the display anyway that drains the battery. Everything is running well, battery lifetime is great too and no crash/freeze at all since i changed that setting and it crashed almost every damn day before, no matter if it was Honeycomb or ICS.
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Thanks! And I have notices ICS is not as snappy as GB was... I mean GB flew! Swiping the screen, it feels a little off now.
RichWPX said:
Thanks! And I have notices ICS is not as snappy as GB was... I mean GB flew! Swiping the screen, it feels a little off now.
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GB? Gingerbread? Guess you mean Honeycomb. Anyway, I experienced ICS to be much better.
DeeDroid said:
I had lots of freezes too (not only with the latest firmware). They seem to be gone since I changed the CPU govenor from "hotplug" to "interactive". I'm not sure yet that it was the reason, but try it and let us know if it helps.
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changing govenor from "hotplug" to "interactive" seems to help against random freezes. 4 days without problems until now i had freezes with ics, but never with honeycomb.
device: archos 101g9
[ROM] Archos ICS - Firmware 4.0.5(4.0.3) - ROOT & BUSYBOX , Only for SDE (thanks surdu_petru)
DeeDroid said:
I had lots of freezes too (not only with the latest firmware). They seem to be gone since I changed the CPU govenor from "hotplug" to "interactive". I'm not sure yet that it was the reason, but try it and let us know if it helps.
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That seems to be my problem too. Setcpu requires root. is there a very easy way to do this, just to run this setcpu? There used to be a z4 tool, but can't seem to find it anymore.
Edit I see that I need superoneclick. Will temporary root suffice or will I need permanent root to change the governor setting.and keep it so.
Unfortunately all know temp root variants tend to brake things- im Honeycomb sound, in ICS 3d driver.
The only real option is to enable SDE and use custom firmware.
As for freezes- try reinstalling apps. Direct upgrade from Honeycomb does not work for all
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DeeDroid said:
GB? Gingerbread? Guess you mean Honeycomb. Anyway, I experienced ICS to be much better.
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I have the same experience. Hc was laggy and slow. Ics is much faster and smoother.
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gen_scheisskopf said:
Unfortunately all know temp root variants tend to brake things- im Honeycomb sound, in ICS 3d driver.
The only real option is to enable SDE and use custom firmware.
As for freezes- try reinstalling apps. Direct upgrade from Honeycomb does not work for all
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sorry for the n00b question, but SDE stands for ??? S ? Develeper Edition ?
Will "Superoneclick" not root my device ?
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sorry for the n00b question, but SDE stands for ??? S ? Develeper Edition ?
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Special Developer Edition
sbtwister said:
Will "Superoneclick" not root my device ?
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No, it won't. Gen9 system layout is different than for most other devices
hey, back to topic
5 days without freeze with govenor "interactive". i witched back to "hot plug" this morning and had to reboot my tablet 2 times today. for my case, "interactice" seems to help against random freezes.
mines performance intstead of interactive... experienced some freezing n interactive..
Man I'm really pissed.
Yesterday I had to hard reboot 7 times
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hmm,
sounds not good. archos stands not for high quality i guess. we get what we pay . i had an archos 101g8, now a 101g9 and trouble with hard-/firmwares since 2010. i think, this was the last one - no furthermore advantures
@IrishStuff09: you did reformat for ics or upgrade from honeycomb? the best way is to start from scratch and skip upgrades.
I owned an gs2 b4 and used this mod its great performance booster.
It will work almost any phone and any rom(tested on nexus4 cm11 with similar hardware as zl and gs2 cm11)
ART Compatible (tested on nexus 4 )
It is not tested on xperia zl thats why i m sharing this but most probably it should work.
Plz do the backup before flashing because
I am only sharing this work i dont own this project
So sorry to say but i will not be able to answer any queries
Flash it at your own risk but it should work
Here you go with download link!
Improved gold edition
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2360670
Reverse Mod:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43543566&postcount=62
Instructions:
Download the mod for your repective rom (download cm version for custom roms) from link!
1.flash it via cwm
2.wipe cache and dalvik
3.while rebooting system it will ask "disable recovery flash?" select "yes"
4.and there you go!
Note
If you select No in "disable recovery flash?" you will face problems in booting in recovery
If something messes up
Nothing to worry just do a clean wipe (data cache and system) and install your previous rom.(thats why a backup is recommended )
but most probably it will work.(recommended)
OR you can use reverse mod in the link provided
Credits
the OP of the thread " http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2360985 " Jeeko
And
zeppelinrox for his V6
ImbaWind for his parts of Adrenaline Engine
Exit_Only for his Turbo concepts, there aren't any parts of his work in mine
idcrisis for his CrossBreeder
nicolassp for his S1_Optimize
All credits goes to these people
L.E.D 26 for his support
Me, Jeeko for the rest
And you for having received the power of the PurePerformances X
Plz do hit the Thanks button of the thread of the provided download link!
Well after using the latest cm on art, I can't imagine what would be faster ... Nevertheless will give this a try..... Its compatible on art mode right?
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xyge said:
Well after using the latest cm on art, I can't imagine what would be faster ... Nevertheless will give this a try..... Its compatible on art mode right?
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i have not tested it on art mode but you can giv it a try
Tested on PAC Rom nightlies.
Adaway stops working after that and ads show up in several apps.
Speeds up system ui animations and everything seems to be smoother.
But no impact on benchmark scores.
Also, battery seems to drain faster.
Maybe it has a better effect on stock version..
CokeJunkee said:
Tested on PAC Rom nightlies.
Adaway stops working after that and ads show up in several apps.
Speeds up system ui animations and everything seems to be smoother.
But no impact on benchmark scores.
Also, battery seems to drain faster.
Maybe it has a better effect on stock version..
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In my case I've got 70 more points in Antutu Benchmark and no faster battery drain.
Besides that, I totally agree with you.
Edit:
Found a "fix" for AdAway not working.
or use
su -c /system/etc/CrossBreeder/DISABLE_ADBLOCK
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I found that command in here
CokeJunkee said:
Tested on PAC Rom nightlies.
Adaway stops working after that and ads show up in several apps.
Speeds up system ui animations and everything seems to be smoother.
But no impact on benchmark scores.
Also, battery seems to drain faster.
Maybe it has a better effect on stock version.
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It is ment for Cyanogenmod but is it working properly in pacman ROM except adaway?
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CokeJunkee said:
Tested on PAC Rom nightlies.
Adaway stops working after that and ads show up in several apps.
Speeds up system ui animations and everything seems to be smoother.
But no impact on benchmark scores.
Also, battery seems to drain faster.
Maybe it has a better effect on stock version..
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ACTUALLY THE MOD IS MENT TO DECREASE BATTERY USAGE for me it doesnt drain
Ok tested on cm11 and well... Doesn't make much difference... Few tweaks it enables is decrease the animation speed to .5x in developer options.... And allow plurging of assets in performance
Apart from that it does apply some minfree tweaks but in neither the benchmarks nor in normal usage do I see a change...
So yea I can't say it helps much in cm based roms where we could tweak the performance settings anyway... Maybe good for stock roms
Thanks for the share anyway
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CokeJunkee said:
Tested on PAC Rom nightlies.
Adaway stops working after that and ads show up in several apps.
Speeds up system ui animations and everything seems to be smoother.
But no impact on benchmark scores.
Also, battery seems to drain faster.
Maybe it has a better effect on stock version..
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yeah you can giv it a try
original post updated with an improved gold edition
From my experiences on many different phone models and OS's and different methods tried, it might be good in short terms usage, but on the long run, benchmarks boosting leads to sluggish and buggy phone...
iPeck said:
From my experiences on many phone models and OS's and different methods tried, it might be good in short terms, but on the long run, benchmarks boosting leads to sluggish and buggy phone...
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no i have been using this in my s2 since a long time until i bought zl it worked fine and benchmark is not boosted to a very high level maximus 200 it depends on the rom and it reduces lagginess
iPeck said:
From my experiences on many different phone models and OS's and different methods tried, it might be good in short terms usage, but on the long run, benchmarks boosting leads to sluggish and buggy phone...
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Yup it will but not much..
And to be honest.. Don't go for benchmarks ..
its all done quite easily as these boosters basically set ur cpu to performance mode whenever a fullscreen app runs.... That's it... If you look into it ull see most oems do that as well.. So u always get better benchmarks on stock roms as compared to aosp based roms.
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xyge said:
Yup it will but not much..
And to be honest.. Don't go for benchmarks ..
its all done quite easily as these boosters basically set ur cpu to performance mode whenever a fullscreen app runs.... That's it... If you look into it ull see most oems do that as well.. So u always get better benchmarks on stock roms as compared to aosp based roms.
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i agree with you actually benchmarks arent that reliable for s2 it showed 200 but for many users its significantly negligibe.actually in the shared link its mentioned to increase benchmark thats why i had written "improve benchmarks"in title.rRemoved it now nomore quarrels about benchmarks!
Flashed the golden edition now and it gives me +480 Antutu points.
The fix for AdAway also works, thanks for that !
System ui responds fast and smooth. Will test it the following days and report back.
CokeJunkee said:
Flashed the golden edition now and it gives me +480 Antutu points.
The fix for AdAway also works, thanks for that !
System ui responds fast and smooth. Will test it the following days and report back.
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Guys the performance boost(If you feel benchmarks only show you the performance) comes from an increase in I/O score. Can anyone check that. I used to use such scripts on my galaxy 3 which atleast to some degree made me think the lag was gone . I don't think our phone needs such scripts.Our phone is already the fastest it can be and it's the fastest any phone can get right now . It can only be improved on by having better android( like an improved kernel?). Our phone has 2 gigs of RAM and do you think we need a minfree scipt for that? lol . That's the reason no one makes "scripts" for top tier phones. And those who feel the performance has been boosted check the CPU score differences in antutu, not the overall score which includes I/O too.
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Guys the performance boost(If you feel benchmarks only show you the performance) comes from an increase in I/O score. Can anyone check that. I used to use such scripts on my galaxy 3 which atleast to some degree made me think the lag was gone . I don't think our phone needs such scripts.Our phone is already the fastest it can be and it's the fastest any phone can get right now . It can only be improved on by having better android( like an improved kernel?). Our phone has 2 gigs of RAM and do you think we need a minfree scipt for that? lol . That's the reason no one makes "scripts" for top tier phones. And those who feel the performance has been boosted check the CPU score differences in antutu, not the overall score which includes I/O too.
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We do need the scripts buddy for our phones with unstable and laggy custom roms though our phones are good they arent the BEST !THIS IS JUST A WAY TO MAKE IT BETTER.if you feel so try it on ur phone.i personally dont go and rely on benchmarks
Does this even need an explanation? Lollipop kills apps like it's his hobby.
Even with only a few light (on RAM) user apps running in the background you sometimes find yourself staring at your launcher home screen that, you could've sworn, was just showing a different app a second ago.
Or the times when, after multi-tasking a bit, your phone starts becoming painfully slow. Turns out that some apps are so stubborn that they go on strike (continuously restarting) when LP kills them.
I'm sure many have experienced this. And I have seen some devs address this issue here and there. I though it would be useful to gather the info into one thread, to ease our (or my?) frustration on this issue.
What I wanna know is, what causes it exactly (why didn't it happen on KK?), and is there a solution to this? Or at some way to calm LP down a bit with his killing of innocent apps.
Thanks.
Djalaal said:
Does this even need an explanation? Lollipop kills apps like it's his hobby.
Even with only a few light (on RAM) user apps running in the background you sometimes find yourself staring at your launcher home screen that, you could've sworn, was just showing a different app a second ago.
Or the times when, after multi-tasking a bit, your phone starts becoming painfully slow. Turns out that some apps are so stubborn that they go on strike (continuously restarting) when LP kills them.
I'm sure many have experienced this. And I have seen some devs address this issue here and there. I though it would be useful to gather the info into one thread, to ease our (or my?) frustration on this issue.
What I wanna know is, what causes it exactly (why didn't it happen on KK?), and is there a solution to this? Or at some way to calm LP down a bit with his killing of innocent apps.
Thanks.
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Im running 1/8 FML with synapse injected R10 kernel on my toro and with ksm and laptop mode enabled in synapse, I haven't had a launcher redraw in days. I don't have anything whitelisted either. However, the trade-off I have at the moment is I cant seem to stream videos on my stock browser. Havent tried a different browser or anything. I just uncheck those two settings and reboot and all is well, but my phone certainly works much better now, and no redraws, with neph settings for LMK
Hope something helps someone!
Thanks
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Im running 1/8 FML with synapse injected R10 kernel on my toro and with ksm and laptop mode enabled in synapse, I haven't had a launcher redraw in days. I don't have anything whitelisted either. However, the trade-off I have at the moment is I cant seem to stream videos on my stock browser. Havent tried a different browser or anything. I just uncheck those two settings and reboot and all is well, but my phone certainly works much better now, and no redraws, with neph settings for LMK
Hope something helps someone!
Thanks
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Perhaps you can noobify that a bit, lol. I had to google almost everything you mentioned. As I understand it, this Synapse allows you to tweak the kernel? And this KSM settings can improve this RAM issue? Care to elaborate? And what is laptop mode?
I've read about adjusting the LMK values to calm LP down a little. Any idea though why this was so necessary in LP, but not in KK? Is stock LP 'naturally' more RAM hungry than KK?
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Perhaps you can noobify that a bit, lol. I had to google almost everything you mentioned. As I understand it, this Synapse allows you to tweak the kernel? And this KSM settings can improve this RAM issue? Care to elaborate? And what is laptop mode?
I've read about adjusting the LMK values to calm LP down a little. Any idea though why this was so necessary in LP, but not in KK? Is stock LP 'naturally' more RAM hungry than KK?
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I can try to elaborate little bit, as Ive been flashing things and researching xda a lot, but I am still noob in how/why things are the way they are. From what I gather lollipop just handles memory differently then kk did. I think that is some of the reason as to why the "recent apps" persist through reboots now. Remember, our device was not really supposed to run kk and certainly not meant to run lollipop. The developers here are without a doubt amazing in what they know and what they do for us users. A new kernel and driver was necessary to run lollipop on the aging gnex. Now, some of the issues we are experiencing is a google issue and will only seem to get fixed when they get around to it. I know my nexus 7 (old) has some memory issues and lag and redraws from time to time....not as much as I noticed with my gnex before the changes were made I stated in the above post. I recently helped my friend root and upgrade his oneplus one to lollipop and he has the same issues we all have, maybe not as bad, but they are noticeable
A lot of the questions you have, have been discussed recently in bsmitty83 kernel thread, since I asked them. There are links there as to what KSM and laptop mode are and what they do. KSM-kernel same page merging helps with RAM and I believe laptop mode helps to conserve power. A lot of these things are geared at devices with low ram like the aging gnex, but the developers have done a great job at making lollipop a daily driver. Most users I think use trickstermod from playstore to tune kernel settings, and that is ok, however, you must purchase the paid version to tweak low memory settings, which I did. However, synapse, also found on playstore can also be used to tweak kernel settings, but the kernel has to contain UCI support for the synapse app to work. Synapse has more settings available to tweak than trickster does, like KSM and laptop mode, which have helped me very much. The only kernel I'm aware of that has UCI support for synapse is bsmitty83 Full_Auto R10, because osmosis made it work
Hopefully this was rather accurate and helpful and not convoluted! ha.....im sure some more knowledgeable people will come and correct anything I said that may be incorrect, but in the meantime, read through the R10 kernel thread and see what you come up with
What ROM and kernel are you currently using?
Thank you
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The only kernel I'm aware of that has UCI support for synapse is bsmitty83 Full_Auto R10, because osmosis made it work.
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What ROM and kernel are you currently using?
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I'm currently using AOSP rom (by freshgimmi) and the Full Auto R10 you mentioned. I'll try injecting the new ramdisk now and see how it goes.
I noticed this issue as well for the first several days . However once I installed the new bootanimation from arter97 the issue doesn't occur anymore. Not sure if it's related but all I did was mount /system as rw and copied into the new lollipop boot animation from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/arm-arm64-android-5-0-lollipop-t3032247
Djalaal said:
Does this even need an explanation? Lollipop kills apps like it's his hobby.
Even with only a few light (on RAM) user apps running in the background you sometimes find yourself staring at your launcher home screen that, you could've sworn, was just showing a different app a second ago.
Or the times when, after multi-tasking a bit, your phone starts becoming painfully slow. Turns out that some apps are so stubborn that they go on strike (continuously restarting) when LP kills them.
I'm sure many have experienced this. And I have seen some devs address this issue here and there. I though it would be useful to gather the info into one thread, to ease our (or my?) frustration on this issue.
What I wanna know is, what causes it exactly (why didn't it happen on KK?), and is there a solution to this? Or at some way to calm LP down a bit with his killing of innocent apps.
Thanks.
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I noticed this issue as well for the first several days . However once I installed the new bootanimation from arter97 the issue doesn't occur anymore. Not sure if it's related but all I did was mount /system as rw and copied into the new lollipop boot animation from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/arm-arm64-android-5-0-lollipop-t3032247
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I know about this issue. It is a memory leak during boot. It is a good catch, though all you're changing is the bootanimation.zip. AFAIK, it should not affect your system's performance after boot, once your phone is up and running. My issue is a different thing entirely. I never got bootloops (that is, when not messing around with xposed).
Okay, you're right. As a test last night I switched from FML 5.0.2 to LiquidSmooth's LP ROM and I'm not seeing any aggressive app kills in LiquidSmooth.
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I know about this issue. It is a memory leak during boot. It is a good catch, though all you're changing is the bootanimation.zip. AFAIK, it should not affect your system's performance after boot, once your phone is up and running. My issue is a different thing entirely. I never got bootloops (that is, when not messing around with xposed).
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erk1725 said:
Im running 1/8 FML with synapse injected R10 kernel on my toro and with ksm and laptop mode enabled in synapse, I haven't had a launcher redraw in days. I don't have anything whitelisted either. However, the trade-off I have at the moment is I cant seem to stream videos on my stock browser. Havent tried a different browser or anything. I just uncheck those two settings and reboot and all is well, but my phone certainly works much better now, and no redraws, with neph settings for LMK
Hope something helps someone!
Thanks
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I have got synapse up and running. I AM wondering though, what LMK settings are you using? Cause the neph settings I know of tell me to set empty app to 370, but synapse only allows max 320... If you're following different settings, could you link the post for me?
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I have got synapse up and running. I AM wondering though, what LMK settings are you using? Cause the neph settings I know of tell me to set empty app to 370, but synapse only allows max 320... If you're following different settings, could you link the post for me?
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Glad you got everything up and running.....Im using Neph's settings for LMK, and your correct the empty app only goes up to 320 in synapse. There was a post somewhere where Neph said he was still tweaking his LMK values and I believe he mentioned about lower empty app to 330 or something, so I just set it to 320 in synapse and call it a day
I have been using the SM-A505G for almost 2 weeks now. However, I feel that the general performance/smoothness is not good always.
I see many occasional stutters throughout the day and the phone is not as responsive as I would have liked it to be always. Slight stutter are present, and sometimes small things like keyboard would open 1 second later, or swiping from one home screen to another is not smooth many times, or some other minor delays like that. I tried the Samsung One UI launcher and also the Rootless Launcher, but had similar experience on both. I had been using a Nexus6p so far with custom roms, and while this phone is much faster than that, I am not sure if these performance stutters are expected on devices in this price range. Can anyone else share their experience?
I am not playing any games or running many apps on my device as well and am more of a casual user.
Have you tried to use the reduce animations setting in Advanced features? It helps a bit.
Stock keyboard or 3rd party? Using swift key has been quite smooth.
The phone is sluggish especially when showing call screen etc but in general haven't noticed majority of the symptoms you posted.
I'm also coming from Nexus6 with a custom roms and I agree that this phone has been a godsend so far in terms of speed.
Have you thought about rooting it and then install some sort of cpu manager? I know the cpu isn't going to perform like and SD 845 or anything but maybe if u change the governor you could see better performance in day-to-day usage?
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I am not sure if these performance stutters are expected on devices in this price range. .
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Of course they are not expected. Those lags are from bad software optimization i.e dialer in my case
pabgar said:
Of course they are not expected. Those lags are from bad software optimization i.e dialer in my case
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Hoping that's something which Samsung will fix then. Not sure how their track record is on non flagship devices.
shadow_khan said:
Have you tried to use the reduce animations setting in Advanced features? It helps a bit.
Stock keyboard or 3rd party? Using swift key has been quite smooth.
The phone is sluggish especially when showing call screen etc but in general haven't noticed majority of the symptoms you posted.
I'm also coming from Nexus6 with a custom roms and I agree that this phone has been a godsend so far in terms of speed.
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Yeah I am trying with some changes to see what works. I switched to lawnchair launcher v2. Seems to be smoother than the others so far. The call screen/dialer is slow for me too.
AjBeld said:
Have you thought about rooting it and then install some sort of cpu manager? I know the cpu isn't going to perform like and SD 845 or anything but maybe if u change the governor you could see better performance in day-to-day usage?
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I can go that route later in the life cycle of the phone assuming it supports all that, but this is not something I really wanted to do in the first year itself.
Hello.
I got a Mi A2 Lite a few days ago, is my first Android One. My model have 3Gb of RAM.
I'm facing the following problem:
Let's say I'm playing Lords Mobile (the only game I play). Then, I receive a message on WhatsApp. I go there and reply. I then go to Facebook and/or Chrome to check something, and want to go back to Lords Mobile. The game was pulled out from memory, and need to reload again from zero. Same with Chrome, it shows all my tabs I had opened, but is surelly reloading again from zero. Is like the "clear all" of 'recent apps' on some other phones.
I think 3Gb of RAM is enough to handle these apps, don't? I don't have too much apps installed, and the memory use is about 2Gb. I don't know if this behavior is native, by the way. Another example: if I go to sleep just after play, when I go to game again in the morning, the game reload from zero.
Is this normal? Any way to make this model handle the memory in a better way, if is the case?
My device is on Pie, July security patch. No root.
Thanks in advice
It gets better over time. There is "AI" that figures out what to keep in memory.
But in general, pie seems to be worse than previous releases at keeping things in memory, even when memory is not full.
a1291762 said:
It gets better over time. There is "AI" that figures out what to keep in memory.
But in general, pie seems to be worse than previous releases at keeping things in memory, even when memory is not full.
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Thanks.
Is there a way to get rid of AI, or set an app to be excluded from this?
romulocarlos said:
Is there a way to get rid of AI, or set an app to be excluded from this?
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Not that anyone seems to know. Maybe custom ROMs help?
I just used my phone like normal and noticed that it got better at not unloading apps that I came back to regularly.
You can try to force Android Go mode, since it's designed for really small RAM use but I tried it and didn't like it (changes some things).
a1291762 said:
Not that anyone seems to know. Maybe custom ROMs help?
I just used my phone like normal and noticed that it got better at not unloading apps that I came back to regularly.
You can try to force Android Go mode, since it's designed for really small RAM use but I tried it and didn't like it (changes some things).
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Thank you. I don't go for Android Go, seems worse. lol
Any other suggestions will be welcome.
It's not AI, it's the Kernel's scheduler profile, and Xiaomi is famous for tuning it with an aggressive policy towards keeping as much RAM available as possible. The only way to improve it is by installing a custom kernel.
slimshady76 said:
It's not AI, it's the Kernel's scheduler profile, and Xiaomi is famous for tuning it with an aggressive policy towards keeping as much RAM available as possible. The only way to improve it is by installing a custom kernel.
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Well, custom kernel and ROMs means unlocking bootloader... I can't do this for now. But, anyway, thanks!
3 gigs of ram is barely enough for pie. On the 4 gig version I have barely 1 gig free at idle. But mostly, the app kill is done by a crappy A.I. system that does some battery optimization.
TheoXSD said:
3 gigs of ram is barely enough for pie. On the 4 gig version I have barely 1 gig free at idle. But mostly, the app kill is done by a crappy A.I. system that does some battery optimization.
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Well, taking in note what @slimshady76 wrote above, maybe the "Butterfly for daisy" will be a good deal. But I can't do it now.
I just made a test on last 2 days.
I uninstalled any optional app on phone I downloaded, and disabled a lot of system apps. Lords Mobile won't unload from memory when switching and/or when I sleep and back to game at morning.
So, is a lack of memory, but I still thinking 3Gb is enough to handle it. When 10.0.12.0 comes available to download, I'll try Butterfly kernel.