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SONY's Smart watch review with Xperia Ion.

so i decided y not buy the smart watch since i already have the headset pro to see how this comes in handy.
So first of the smart watch and head set pro do the same sh*t, only difference besides there looks is the watch has more apps.
Now even thou they do mostly the same thing. The watch does work good in most part's. Easily with phone outta sight ,you can check your message ,fb,tw,Google ect and even check weather and answer calls. Control music and volume. I find all of this to work out pretty well when all 3 devices are snyc, phone,watch,headset.
The bad and good.
The watch when not in use goes into sleep mode ,so in order to see the time you gotta double tab screen. But you can switch options to different watch looks to keep the screen on according to movement . Thats kool and all but can kill battery life quick. I have no problem tapping lol.
one Down Fall i notice .
Even thou i can read txt message, set up a reply option or call, i wish i can actually type and reply from the damn watch itself
Good example, Google maps for the watch is one of the best application on here,keyboard pops up, easy to use. Type in any location from the watch easy have a gps on my hand only if it talked. So they could have easily done this for texting.
Using all 3 device in public like on bus or at work, works out very well for me. Only time you gotta pull ur phone is when its time to reply to a text and its so anyyoing knowing this watch can do so much more.
Well am not done with this review ill be back with more so i hope this helps out anyone even if your not interested. It's always good to have information Laying around in case lol.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, LET ME KNOW.
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Read a lot of reviews online about this and decided NOT to buy it. Horrible screen, clumsy to use, etc.

joe3681 said:
Read a lot of reviews online about this and decided NOT to buy it. Horrible screen, clumsy to use, etc.
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Ditto. Not because of quality, but function versus dollars. However I know there's 3rd party mods/apps for the watch, I'd like to hear more on those in execution.
Maybe Spectre can chime in too with his review.
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I really like the smart watch. I've used it numerous times to change ring volume to vibrate or silent, view text and emails without pulling my phone out. Its nice to be able to see whether an email it txt is important and needs a reply right away or not without getting your phone out.
Honestly you don't really think you would use it that much until you actually have it. My biggest complaint is that the watch screen isn't bright enough when in direct sunlight.
The google maps app is awesome. I haven't used a lot of the other third party apps.
I don't have a problem with how the phone functions as far as having to double tap the screen or push the side button to turn the screen on. Swiping is easy. The apps could use some more function like replies and stuff but honestly that's not really the idea behind it. Its quick access to view emails, txt, Facebook, twitter and other things without having to use the phone in hand and it does that real well.
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Just heard that apple is coming out with a smart watch version.
http://mobile.eweek.com/mobile/apple-intel-collaborating-on-smartwatch-report/
~Jaramie
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Yea I read bout it 3 months ago am not even worried , they got the stupid nano watch already it sucks compared to smart watch only for music and Sony already working on there new Smart watch idk if it's gona be called smart watch 2 or new name.
I'll post the link for that once I find it again.
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Smart watch update , refer to pic below for details.
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some of the New faces ,definitely will update my review once i get a full day use of this update.
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joe3681 said:
Read a lot of reviews online about this and decided NOT to buy it. Horrible screen, clumsy to use, etc.
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I have one, and I find it to be very useful. My watch was a present. I thought it was going to be a useless gimmick, but now I can barely live without it.
On the way to work (on the bus), I usually have music playing. I can leave my phone in my pocket, and switch tracks easily. At home I often connect my phone to a dock for playing music. Again, I use my watch as a remote.
I prefer to have my phone on silent/vibrate, but I have missed calls because I do not always notice the vibration. With my watch, the watch vibrates on a call! I never miss calls now.
Having email alerts and SMS alerts is pretty handy. I have wired up my home alarm system to my home network - it sends emails when my alarm goes off. These come straight through to my watch now.
The screen is very good indoors. Outside, it is pretty hard to read in direct sunlight, and not great (but usable) in shade.
The UI is pretty poorly thought out. A back button would make life much easier. To go "back" on the watch, you need to do a pinch gesture. This is pretty hard on a tiny screen. A hardware back button could easily be located on the left side of the watch.
One puzzling thing is that the API does not allow 3rd party developers to add new watch faces. I would have thought this would be a big selling point. Writing a watch face as a complete 3rd party app does not work as well, as it tends to chew more battery and doesn't integrate with the other apps properly.
The connection to the charger is stupid, whoever thought of it should be ashamed. It is very finicky. I've found the best way to deal with it, is to wrap a rubber band around the watch and cable - otherwise it may stop charging (it sucks to have it go flat 30 minutes after getting to work).
The bluetooth connection uses v2, not v3 - so it uses more battery than it needs to. Having the watch at a distance from the phone will cause it to go through batteries a lot faster.
The watch itself is relatively tough, but the clip is not. I actually broke one of the little clips that hold the watch to the watch strap. Luckily for me, the guys at Sony Central in Brisbane had a watch that had a broken screen - so they helped me to transfer the clip from that watch onto mine (the alternative was to wait for 4 weeks for a warranty repair).
On the whole, I like the watch! It's not perfect, but it is very usable.
The good
Music control
Alerts
Vibrate on call
The bad
Clip is fragile
Charging connection sucks
Cannot add 3rd party watch faces
Screen sucks in sunlight
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princemarcus19 said:
some of the New faces ,definitely will update my review once i get a full day use of this update.
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I found the new faces ok for a few minutes, but I keep going back to the large digital watch face. It is by far the most readable. This watch really needs more digital faces!

Could some of you guys suggest which one to buy.?
I saw bunch of models and I don't know which one to buy...
Tnx
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Could some of you guys suggest which one to buy.?
I saw bunch of models and I don't know which one to buy...
Tnx
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There is only one model of Smart Watch. Just buy one from Sony or eBay or Amazon or on polish site Allegro.pl
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Vaith said:
There is only one model of Smart Watch. Just buy one from Sony or eBay or Amazon or on polish site Allegro.pl
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Becouse I saw some models on eBay.
O.K so, we have only one model.
Tnx
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deadcatt said:
I have one, and I find it to be very useful. My watch was a present. I thought it was going to be a useless gimmick, but now I can barely live without it.
On the way to work (on the bus), I usually have music playing. I can leave my phone in my pocket, and switch tracks easily. At home I often connect my phone to a dock for playing music. Again, I use my watch as a remote.
I prefer to have my phone on silent/vibrate, but I have missed calls because I do not always notice the vibration. With my watch, the watch vibrates on a call! I never miss calls now.
Having email alerts and SMS alerts is pretty handy. I have wired up my home alarm system to my home network - it sends emails when my alarm goes off. These come straight through to my watch now.
The screen is very good indoors. Outside, it is pretty hard to read in direct sunlight, and not great (but usable) in shade.
The UI is pretty poorly thought out. A back button would make life much easier. To go "back" on the watch, you need to do a pinch gesture. This is pretty hard on a tiny screen. A hardware back button could easily be located on the left side of the watch.
One puzzling thing is that the API does not allow 3rd party developers to add new watch faces. I would have thought this would be a big selling point. Writing a watch face as a complete 3rd party app does not work as well, as it tends to chew more battery and doesn't integrate with the other apps properly.
The connection to the charger is stupid, whoever thought of it should be ashamed. It is very finicky. I've found the best way to deal with it, is to wrap a rubber band around the watch and cable - otherwise it may stop charging (it sucks to have it go flat 30 minutes after getting to work).
The bluetooth connection uses v2, not v3 - so it uses more battery than it needs to. Having the watch at a distance from the phone will cause it to go through batteries a lot faster.
The watch itself is relatively tough, but the clip is not. I actually broke one of the little clips that hold the watch to the watch strap. Luckily for me, the guys at Sony Central in Brisbane had a watch that had a broken screen - so they helped me to transfer the clip from that watch onto mine (the alternative was to wait for 4 weeks for a warranty repair).
On the whole, I like the watch! It's not perfect, but it is very usable.
The good
Music control
Alerts
Vibrate on call
The bad
Clip is fragile
Charging connection sucks
Cannot add 3rd party watch faces
Screen sucks in sunlight
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I found the new faces ok for a few minutes, but I keep going back to the large digital watch face. It is by far the most readable. This watch really needs more digital faces!
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No lie I do that too stands most of the time now.
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So I have used my smart watch on gs3 and its fully compatible.
Kool thing bout gs3 Bluetooth it turns itself on automaticlly .wish ion had that feature
Also this new awsome camera app is the bomb!!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonymobile.extras.liveware.extension.camera
And can someone let me know if there watch takes for ever to load certain apps
Thanks.
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very good
very good

A tiny wow moment

Battery life, android wear not baked, yada yada early adopter pains, but I wanted to share a wow moment with you to balance all the negative chatter:
Wife and I debating whether to introduce the kiddos to IronMan tonight and not sure how long it was - bring up my wrist to wake the 360, "Ok Google, how long is the ironman movie, " 4 seconds later on screen: '126 minutes' with a pic of Ironman in the background. Wow. Wife hadn't even finished picking up her phone yet! That was just cool
I haven't had this much fun with a device since my Nexus One[emoji12]

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Battery life, android wear not baked, yada yada early adopter pains, but I wanted to share a wow moment with you to balance all the negative chatter:
Wife and I debating whether to introduce the kiddos to IronMan tonight and not sure how long it was - bring up my wrist to wake the 360, "Ok Google, how long is the ironman movie, " 4 seconds later on screen: '126 minutes' with a pic of Ironman in the background. Wow. Wife hadn't even finished picking up her phone yet! That was just cool
I haven't had this much fun with a device since my Nexus One[emoji12]
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Dealing with all the early adopter pains that you speak of right now, but that little glimpse of what I have to look forward too was helpful ha ha. thank you

davedigerati said:
Battery life, android wear not baked, yada yada early adopter pains, but I wanted to share a wow moment with you to balance all the negative chatter:
Wife and I debating whether to introduce the kiddos to IronMan tonight and not sure how long it was - bring up my wrist to wake the 360, "Ok Google, how long is the ironman movie, " 4 seconds later on screen: '126 minutes' with a pic of Ironman in the background. Wow. Wife hadn't even finished picking up her phone yet! That was just cool
I haven't had this much fun with a device since my Nexus One[emoji12]
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THIS is what a smartwatch is for. It's sad to see so many people saying they're useless. It's just the opposite - as features in Android wear grow, so do the possibilities.
I just got my 360 two days ago and I'm already in love with it. As with many the initial setup was a headache with the battery dying during the update, but since then smooth sailing.
I'm seriously considering getting the Moto Hint too, when it comes out. This will be the PERFECT marriage for the 360. Then I'll rarely need to take out my phone at all while I'm on the go!
By the way, to search even quicker, after you bring the watch up to view, instead of saying ok google, just tap the screen.

I kinda had the same thing:
I was driving, wanted to know what time it would get dark, because I had some stuff to do in the yard. I have an app on my phone that tells me, but that's too much work.
I tap my screen "What time is sunset?". Wife next to me responds "I don't know", not realizing I wasn't asking her. A few seconds later I get response from Google telling me the exact time.
That's exactly what a smart watch is good for. I have a big ass Note3 and I love the screen size for surfing, typing emails etc , but for these quick things it's too much work to dig it out of your pockets.

that's the one great things of Google now
unfortunately it doesn't work well with a accent like my dutch, but can't wait to buy it here.

scrapzz said:
that's the one great things of Google now
unfortunately it doesn't work well with a accent like my dutch, but can't wait to buy it here.
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I'm Dutch, moved to the US about 6 years ago. I guess I don't sound that Dutchy anymore. Google Now has no problems understanding me

My first "Wow!" moment was when I found out that I can pause/play a movie playing on my chromecast (provided it was started from my phone). Prior to that, pausing a movie meant digging out my phone, turning it on, and (if for some reason, the controls weren't available on the lockscreen, which for some reason happened quite often) unlocking the phone and pressing pause in Google Play Movies. Now, it's a flick of the wrist and a quick tap. Soooo nice!

For me its setting timers. I have two kids and unless a timer is set, chores take forever. If they aren't done before the timer is over, a toy is taken away, privilege is lost, etc. The moto 360 makes that effortless. Music control is nice as is chromecast control. I hope roku makes an app. The remote tends to get lost around here.

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My first "Wow!" moment was when I found out that I can pause/play a movie playing on my chromecast (provided it was started from my phone). Prior to that, pausing a movie meant digging out my phone, turning it on, and (if for some reason, the controls weren't available on the lockscreen, which for some reason happened quite often) unlocking the phone and pressing pause in Google Play Movies. Now, it's a flick of the wrist and a quick tap. Soooo nice!
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That was my first wow moment too (with lg g watch unfortunately lol)
But now it makes me wish they would give you more than just a pause button, can't they add rewind/fast forward and volume too?! That would be awesome.

play2lose said:
That was my first wow moment too (with lg g watch unfortunately lol)
But now it makes me wish they would give you more than just a pause button, can't they add rewind/fast forward and volume too?! That would be awesome.
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If you actually open the card (small up-swipe), you can then left-swipe for FF/REW options.

jt3 said:
My first "Wow!" moment was when I found out that I can pause/play a movie playing on my chromecast (provided it was started from my phone). Prior to that, pausing a movie meant digging out my phone, turning it on, and (if for some reason, the controls weren't available on the lockscreen, which for some reason happened quite often) unlocking the phone and pressing pause in Google Play Movies. Now, it's a flick of the wrist and a quick tap. Soooo nice!
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If you actually open the card (small up-swipe), you can then left-swipe for FF/REW options.
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I don't get that on mine, at least not for controlling Netflix through the Chromecast. Maybe it works for google play movies.

My 1st WOW moment, took some setup work but totally worth it! I have had my phone setup to control my home automation lights, gas fireplaces, garagedoor, etc by using voice commands for well over a year. Never really found it that practical to use daily since my corporate email requires a screen lock (i know there are ways around this). But there were still too many swipes and presses to get to the autovoice app compared to standing up and walking over the to wall switch. NOW, I just hold my arm up and say "kids rooms lights off" and done. Got the setup from here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNRi-hqS7uM

I don't have a wow moment, but i was in a radio shack store to buy an lg g3, (sale person didn't know they have it for sale.) So when i asked him to lookout in the computer for the g3, the repair tech came by and hear the conversation, he told me that in effect they have it 32gb lg g3 for sale. He suddenly view my moto 360 on my wrist and they guy went crazy (funny guy). He yelled at me, "You have the moto 360, how you go it, where you buy it, i tried to buy on moto site on launch day but failed. Man i hate you, don't ever talk to me again". LOL He was too funny, i show him the watch, after playing with it he offered me $300, i declined jajaj
Was a fun time.

[Q] Thinking of buying a Sony Smartwatch 3 and i need your feedback!

I am seriously debating getting myself a Sony Smartwatch 3, but my usage scenario is rather peculiar/complicated, therefore i really need your help.
First of all, let me tell you that i have had many smartwatches in the past, but never so far an Android Wear device.
My main phone is an iPhone 6 Plus and it shall remain my main phone. I also have an Android device handy at most times (right now it is a Galaxy K Zoom).
XDA member @MohammadAG has already demonstrated (but not yet released) his method for sending iOS notifications over to Android Wear and i have seen in some tech sites that an official Google solution might possibly come in the future.
Let me now tell you what my main usage case will be:
I have a BT 4.0 HR strap (from Wahoo) and i want to connect it to the watch and use it to monitor my HR while jogging. My health condition requires a rather careful monitoring of my HR so that it does not deviate from a certain comfort zone while exercising.
I have already seen there is a thread where people are discussing about this. However, i would be obliged if someone could certify that the Smartwatch 3 would work with a Wahoo HR strap while recording the route via GPS. Of course i need this to be happening while the Watch is offline - not connected to a phone. Can it also play music via BT at the same time?
I could instead purchase a dedicated sports watch, but:
a) I find them ugly
b) They are too big
c) They do nothing more
What do you think? Would the Smartwatch 3 work in this usage scenario?
Would you recommend the rubber one or the metal one?
Thank you very much in advance.

As long as your android device is 4.3 or later, you should be good to go. Someone in another thread said their wahoo tickr works fine. All btle HRMs seem to be working.
https://support.google.com/androidwear/answer/6056401?hl=en

Thank you sir. Any comments about the GPS accuracy?

Mine is accurate, im using runkeeper, I run without smartphone. ...booom what a feeling

@supac Are you also using a BLE HR strap at the same time? Does Runkeeper on the watch show the HR rate on screen ?

No iPhone and no HR device on Wear watch

I've seen a big deterioration on the GPS on mine, not in accuracy but in position lock. I only use mine for running nowadays so it's powered off mostly and I never get a GPS lock the first attempt. I have to first connect it to my phone, then go near a window, try to get GPS sync, then when I do I can disconnect the phone and go out running. Too much of a hassle IMO. I think the watch needs daily communication with a phone i.e. internet to have a properly working GPS. My guess is it needs to update the GPS data frequently.

gidi said:
Thank you sir. Any comments about the GPS accuracy?
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Very accurate when it's connected to my Xperia Z3. I used it with my tablet before I got the phone and can say its a little lame without the portability of a phone, as well as data usage. I love Sony, and I'll say go support them, but if you're dum- very determined on using an iPhone then why not get Apple's shinanigans. I was debating between this and a Garmin 920xt and it was basically deciding between a milkshake and a smoothie.

I'm too consider this watch to replace my motoactv. But problem is I'm using iPhone even though I owned an android tablet. [emoji4]
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My experience
I use the SW3 with a RHYTHM+ BT HRM and LG BT headphones and so run with no phone - GPS, music and heart rate tracking all through the watch. I use the Ghostracer app which has very customizable wear screens, and I have HR showing there. It also uploads seamlessly to Strava once I reconnect the phone.
The GPS accuracy is not as good as my old garmin, but it is better than my Samsung S5 in a waist strap (i.e., before I switched to just the watch)
Top tip, turn off the phone bluetooth before you start. The wear needs to be disconnected before it will work in standalone mode for the run.
Biggest downside? No audible feedback from the running apps yet. So no lap pace, time etc. But then again, the data is right on your wrist.
With my set up the watch battery dies at approx 30% an hour. So if you are running a marathon, better step it up!
Verizon has the watch for $199 - no need to use their cell service to order.
Oh - and in summary - YES, totally recommend it. Best thing since my MotoActv, and it means i can keep my phone in my pocket during the day where it belongs. Not to mention other cool apps, like one that will analyze your golf swing.

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@supac Are you also using a BLE HR strap at the same time? Does Runkeeper on the watch show the HR rate on screen ?
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No hr strap...but I read that they do work. Planning to by one
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I've seen a big deterioration on the GPS on mine, not in accuracy but in position lock. I only use mine for running nowadays so it's powered off mostly and I never get a GPS lock the first attempt. I have to first connect it to my phone, then go near a window, try to get GPS sync, then when I do I can disconnect the phone and go out running. Too much of a hassle IMO. I think the watch needs daily communication with a phone i.e. internet to have a properly working GPS. My guess is it needs to update the GPS data frequently.
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Tip: it takes about 40 seconds for a cold lock. Start your app outside, do stretches then start running.

supac said:
No hr strap...but I read that they do work. Planning to by one
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Tip: it takes about 40 seconds for a cold lock. Start your app outside, do stretches then start running.
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It used to but not any longer. The last time, before I started doing what I described, I waited for 5+ minutes without a lock. On that occasion the watch had been powered off for 2 weeks and not synced with my phone. So I went home, synced to my phone and then I got a lock within a minute. That's why I'm convinced the watch relies on some kind of A-GPS solution and needs access to the internet frequently to work properly.

I bought a Smartwatch 3 when they first came out; primarily because I wanted a simple heart rate monitor, but as I could get the Sony for not much more and perhaps get some additional functionality I thought it would be good to try. In the end though, I never did find a simple heart rate monitor application which I was satisfied with so 2 weeks ago I bought a Polar M400. This works superbly as a heart rate monitor and activity tracker, has a very good (albeit monochrome) display and also has a built-in GPS. In the 2 weeks I've has it, the battery indicator as gone down to a little over half, so I expect the battery to last 3 or 4 weeks.
Of course, the Polar doesn't give me notifications and I can't play flappy bird on it or talk to it, but Polar have announced that they will release an update which will enable it to show notifications and this is the only thing which I would in any way want anyway. Overall, this should be a good compromise for me as long as the battery life doesn't suffer too much. I'll probably sell my Sony and perhaps get another real smart watch when the battery life and apps have improved. In my opinion, Android Wear could have captured a good part of the sport watch market if it would have included a good fitness app right from the start.
-Mark.

guyoutred said:
Verizon has the watch for $199 - no need to use their cell service to order.
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Yup. I went in there on my lunch break with my T-Mobile clothes and name tag on and they sold it to me. (No, I don't have an account with VZW! [emoji13] )
I love mine. I had the Moto 360 and G Watch R beforehand, but I really like the square, TFT screen of the Smartwatch 3.

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Yup. I went in there on my lunch break with my T-Mobile clothes and name tag on and they sold it to me. (No, I don't have an account with VZW! [emoji13] )
I love mine. I had the Moto 360 and G Watch R beforehand, but I really like the square, TFT screen of the Smartwatch 3.
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The TFT screen is amazing! So many sites would knock it for it, but it's very impressive tech. Yes, it doesn't have the best colors like other watches but the best part of it is that I can ALWAYS see the time even with having the screen off. So battery life is very good on this watch. That is perfect for a watch and why I chose the Sony SW 3.

So the current deal on the Google Store is $50 off and $50 Google play credit, so a net $150. I would rather have the metal version, bit I think this may be too good of a deal. Any clue why Google only sells the silicon version?

brizey said:
So the current deal on the Google Store is $50 off and $50 Google play credit, so a net $150. I would rather have the metal version, bit I think this may be too good of a deal. Any clue why Google only sells the silicon version?
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Think its the main version available everywhere. I think the metal version is very limited.
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tu3218 said:
Think its the main version available everywhere. I think the metal version is very limited.
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Yeah, like pretty much unavailable limited here in the US, lol. I can't find anywhere but Ebay mark up trolls that have it, and most are in the Russian Federation.

It looks amazing, you should definitely buy it.

My experience is the same as guyoutred. I use it with a Mio Link BTLE HRM and Motorola S11-HD BT heaphones while running. Ghostracer is the way to go, also wish it had audible updates and autolaps. GPS was dead-on today, but yesterday (cloudy, rainy) it tracked my run but had my position move south several miles then back again. Showed me with a 2min/mile pace.
I'm using the Walkman app for music, tried the Wear Music app but it was very cumbersome. This bad boy has now turned into the perfect replacement for my old MotoActv. Too bad it took this long for a company to satisfy this demand.

Need help with golfshot gps app

does anyone else have the golf shot GPS app installed on their Sony SmartWatch 3 and if so how do you get it to work as a standalone GPS. I can't for the life of me get it to work. if I click on the app on the watch it just says loading I think and spins and then disappears. I can get it to pop up when I use the app on the phone but all its doing there is just giving me the reading from my phone. I want to be able to use just the watch as the GPS like it says it can be. Any help would be appreciated.

same problem however when I click on the app and after a few seconds of loading I get the message "no round currently being played" and if I scroll to the left I get "open on phone"

Played a round last Sunday.
There’s no way to use it as a stand-alone app. You have to start the round on your phone and then start the app on the watch. The good is that you can leave your phone in the cart as the yardage provided will use the GPS on the watch. Compared to my rangefinder, it was at times about 1-5 yards off, which I can live with. Scores marked on the watch will be reflected on your phone.
As for the battery, that’s another story. The round lasted me 4 hours and the watch completely died on the 16th hold. Having the GPS constantly on definitely does a number on the watch. Kind of sucks, but figure I can have a charger in the bag for a quick charge. All in all, I’m very pleased.

Standalone Golf Shot App
Hi
You may have answered your own question by now but yes I have Golfshot on a SW3 and you can select the course on your phone and once it's loaded to the watch it will stay there as the default course when you launch Golfshot directly on your watch...just close the app on the watch but don't end the round when you've used it.
I also turn on Aeroplane mode so that the Golfshot app, which uses the Google Fused Location Api to find out where it is, falls back to the internal GPS chip... as it uses the phone's GPS by default. That has the added benefit of 1) not draining the watch battery as quickly and 2) reducing on-board noise from WiFi and Bluetooth that impinges on the accuracy of the GPS.
I've found though that the watch running Golfshot stand-alone will only last maybe 14-15 pretty quick holes of a round without draining the battery flat....so I've written my own wear app that runs completely on the watch with it's own database. That has holes positions ,max 8 hazards per hole, shot measure etc and finishes a round easily with ~ 35% of the battery left! That database however extends to exactly two courses at the moment(!) so I'm looking for a way to add a Google Earth 'course mapper' to let users add their own.
The Wear app has been a bit of struggle for someone not used to Java, Android or the SDK ..but interesting..so I will press on and do the course mapper...or source one by some other means.
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jester450 said:
Played a round last Sunday.
There’s no way to use it as a stand-alone app. You have to start the round on your phone and then start the app on the watch. The good is that you can leave your phone in the cart as the yardage provided will use the GPS on the watch. Compared to my rangefinder, it was at times about 1-5 yards off, which I can live with. Scores marked on the watch will be reflected on your phone.
As for the battery, that’s another story. The round lasted me 4 hours and the watch completely died on the 16th hold. Having the GPS constantly on definitely does a number on the watch. Kind of sucks, but figure I can have a charger in the bag for a quick charge. All in all, I’m very pleased.
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Hi, see my reply to alnova1 in this thread.

Cheers for sharing AndyMan I wondered how it worked and googling just says it works LOL
I'm using GameGolf on my phone to track my club distances and wanted GOLFSHOT on my watch so its easy to check distances without having my phone in my hand all day (which I did yesterday)
Seriously need something to make me keep my SSW3 don't wear a watch for normal activity in day to day life !

Jalfrezi said:
Cheers for sharing AndyMan I wondered how it worked and googling just says it works LOL
I'm using GameGolf on my phone to track my club distances and wanted GOLFSHOT on my watch so its easy to check distances without having my phone in my hand all day (which I did yesterday)
Seriously need something to make me keep my SSW3 don't wear a watch for normal activity in day to day life !
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Which course is your 'home' one ..and I'll see if I can add it in to my database and send you a copy of the app.

Appreciated but I sold the watch earlier this week the battery just wasn't up to the job for what I needed
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Which course is your 'home' one ..and I'll see if I can add it in to my database and send you a copy of the app.
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Jalfrezi said:
Appreciated but I sold the watch earlier this week the battery just wasn't up to the job for what I needed
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It's a real shame that all the commercial apps I've seen have such awful battery life..probably because they make extensive use of the play services API whereas I use my own optimised routines for many things . My own app has pretty much the same features as the major ones, including up to 8 hazards per hole, plus a compass pointer to the next tee or green centre and I can finish a 4 hour+ competition round with 30% plus battery left!
Still, good luck with whatever route you've gone down now.

Sounds 100% better, I kinda feel the whole watch isn't really overly useful pretty lame apps etc
back to using my nexus 5 gps rangefinder app #GameGolf - NFC tags the next purchase (and probably next to be sold

Hi Andy. Did you ever progress this?

Would be very interested in testing your app Andy!
Please???

Daydream VR?

Got my Daydream VR today, man phone got so hot it scared me silly.
It was so hot, I turned it off and place it under a desktop fan.
The merge VR that I bought for $17.00 at a pawn shop, heats up the phone but nothing like the Google daydream does.
This needs to be addressed by Google asap.
Although the phone warns you on screen it is overheating. Eventually we will see failures related to thermal stress.

Just curious, where are you located, and how did you order the headset? I'm in Chicago, and I submitted my rebate to receive the headset through VZW on 10/20. I got confirmation that my rebate was approved on 10/30, but the rebate site didn't have any details other than that it was accepted and I should receive the rebate within the next 30 days; no tracking # for shipping, or even confirmation on where my order is.
I'm curious for the people who are receiving their Daydream View if they got it through the Play Store rebate, VZW rebate, or if they bought the headset from the Play Store directly.

I preordered it thru best buy and got it yesterday.
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humdrum2009 said:
Got my Daydream VR today, man phone got so hot it scared me silly.
It was so hot, I turned it off and place it under a desktop fan.
The merge VR that I bought for $17.00 at a pawn shop, heats up the phone but nothing like the Google daydream does.
This needs to be addressed by Google asap.
Although the phone warns you on screen it is overheating. Eventually we will see failures related to thermal stress.
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Do you have your Pixel in a case inside the headset? Are you charging it while using the headset? Both can contribute to the phone heating up.

No,its not charging just trying apps out.
When I googled it I found several post about the heat issue.
It gets hot enough to warm your hands in freezing weather.
What app can I use, to record temperature while I'm using the headset?

Considering the stress testing results of the phone's thermal efficiency I find this really surprising.

Has anyone got their Free VR from Google for Pre-Ordering? I have gotten the phone but not the code for redemption.

bryantheawesome said:
Considering the stress testing results of the phone's thermal efficiency I find this really surprising.
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I'm not too surprised. You're putting the phone in a fabric cover with little air circulation and putting it under a heavy load. The fabric will act as an insulator just like your clothes do, and the heavy load will generate heat.
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Well I'm sure they weren't testing these phones with VR in commercial coolers and calling it A-OK. If that's the case VR is an utterly useless gimmick.
Only reason I'd use it is to watch movies with a cinema like experience which I imagine would be really cool. Outside of that I won't use it anyhow.

they were showing it off on the BBC and one of their comments said it saved you money as it heated your room while using it. so it does seem they are getting hot in it, will be interesting to hear from google on it.

Belimawr said:
they were showing it off on the BBC and one of their comments said it saved you money as it heated your room while using it. so it does seem they are getting hot in it, will be interesting to hear from google on it.
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Lol,, they are right this thing is warm.
Has to get at least 104 degrees minimum

It gets very hot but I haven't seen a overheat message. I used it the first time in a OtterBox commuter and obviously couldn't tell how hot it was but no overheat message.
I later read about the heat issues so started taking the case off to help with cooling. As far as the above mentioned fabric acting as insulation.... The phone sits in plastic with little bumpers that touch the phone so there is a little air gap all around the phone.
You want to see a hot phone? Pop a 6p in the daydream and give it a go for a couple minutes, haha.
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My note 7 would get very hot when I used the gear VR, it was never hot any other time. VR just puts a real demanding load on everything.

I've tried just holding the Pixel XL against the VR Headset and leaving the flap down.
Seems to keep temperature down better.
Watched about 5 to 6 movie trailers in 4K and 360.
Ended up on a phone call after about 30 min of use. Phone was only warm to the touch.
First time using daydream and I got the warning message after about 20 minutes (flap up)
Anyone else tried running it with the back of phone completely exposed? (pretty sure no one wants to hold their phone up for extended periods of time )

Well with my headset I got it 3 days ago and when I first got it I used it for periods of about 20 to 30 mins mostly at the time messing around getting used to it. I noticed my pixel get worm and I figured that must be because I was using multiple apps including games(games are kinda what I figured caused the heat) but I was wrong. Tonight I noticed googles deal on movies rentals for $1 for black Friday so I figured why not try using it with my headset. I got 53 mins into my movie and a box popped up on my screen saying something about the heat and it would need to lower performance. It's kind of an issue when you can't even watch a movie with out it having heat issues.

hello
i am trying to rung the daydream kit on another phone, but it prompts me to update the google vr services (and i can't do it because
the playstore says : incompatible phone)
could one of you check what daydream & google vr service version is installed on your pixel please ?
thank you

ingeras said:
hello
i am trying to rung the daydream kit on another phone, but it prompts me to update the google vr services (and i can't do it because
the playstore says : incompatible phone)
could one of you check what daydream & google vr service version is installed on your pixel please ?
thank you
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Pretty sure Google has to whitelist the phone somewhere.
See attached.

tiny4579 said:
Pretty sure Google has to whitelist the phone somewhere.
See attached.
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Would it be possible to edit the build prop to show your phone is a pixel?
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i edited the build to make it look like a pixel, but it's not enough
someone said that qualcom vr sdk is used in some library, not sure if it's true
but if that's the case you need a qualcom 64b cpu (snapdragon 8xx)