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[MOD]Webkit browser accelerate

I didn't make this, I just found it and put it in a flashable zip.
It was in the meXdroid Pre-Ghost Chili ROM, but for some reason not in the latest AIO version. I think it was also in the CM7 nightlies, but I'm not entirely sure.
Anyway, it just makes the webkit browsers(pretty much all browsers except Opera and Firefox) a little smoother, especially when pinch-zooming in.
I tested this working on CM7 nightly 204 and meXdroid Ghost Chili AIO.
It didn't work on MIUI and Sense ROMS. MIUI hanged at boot and Sense crashed the browser. You can try it if you want though.
Download:
http://www.multiupload.com/P4UCPVX4IY
The .zip flashes 2 files:
system/lib/libwebcore.so
system/lib/libwebkitaccel.so

Do you have some benchmarks or something?
Because I don't know if I will flash it if it is a "little smoother"

Here's a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DZnie3u0YI

Dang! That's smoother than Opera! Wish it was working for MIUI though :/
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It's not smoother than Opera, but it's definitely an improvement.
Zooming out is still a little laggy like normal, and scrolling on large pages(like xda forums expanded view) is still laggy.
I wonder why they removed this from the CM7 nightlys though.

When I first judged the performance, I was basing my observations on the YT video. Now, I'm running CM7 and using the stock browser.
- the stock browser seemed smoother than Dolphin HD, but yes, not as smooth as Opera. Rendering wasn't perfect on Opera 100% of the time though (the google mobile page comes to mind).
- it was definitely smoother than normal, mostly after the page finished loading. When the page was still loading, scrolling was still fairly choppy. But still definitely recommended for those not on Opera.
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Definitely some difference on CM7. Stability is noticeably lower though.
Still not at Opera's level =/
Vellamo shows that it's now running close to 60fps instead of 30fps
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ChronoReverse said:
Definitely some difference on CM7. Stability is noticeably lower though.
Still not at Opera's level =/
Vellamo shows that it's now running close to 60fps instead of 30fps
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I use stock browser on meXdroidmod ghost chili AIO. It is buttery smooth. Way better than the video posted above. I really can't imagine it being better cause its that smooth.
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I actually used meXdroidmod AIO in the video. After I flashed gapps(non modded) it broke the theme.
Also, because all browsers on Android use the same webkit engine, I doubt one is smoother than the other. Because of this, this should work on all those browsers(incl. Dolphin HD).
With the exception of Opera Mobile and Firefox though. Those 2 use their own rendering engine.
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Browser.apk v2.3.3 - Crash after this path
Kernel 2.6.32.28-cyanogenmod-g2dcb436
[email protected] #1

Works great! They removed it from CM due to stability issues but honestly I rather deal with the occasional crash than slow browsing. For shame on all of you who didn't thank the guy for posting this! Wtf is wrong with you people?! Don't worry! I gave you 5 points to make up for it. Also, it only works on 2.3.4 and above...

sino8r said:
Works great! They removed it from CM due to stability issues but honestly I rather deal with the occasional crash than slow browsing. For shame on all of you who didn't thank the guy for posting this! Wtf is wrong with you people?! Don't worry! I gave you 5 points to make up for it. Also, it only works on 2.3.4 and above...
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Thanks
I haven't noticed any stability issues myself though, but I also rather have a occasional crash than the normal choppy browsing. I always had to use Opera, since the stock browsers were so horribly slow.
Let's hope IceCreamSandwich will be better. The ICS browser will supposedly have full hardware acceleration in the browser.
Also, I just tested this on my sisters' Nexus S, and it worked. Perhaps it works on more devices?

KnekKeR said:
Thanks
I haven't noticed any stability issues myself though, but I also rather have a occasional crash than the normal choppy browsing. I always had to use Opera, since the stock browsers were so horribly slow.
Let's hope IceCreamSandwich will be better. The ICS browser will supposedly have full hardware acceleration in the browser.
Also, I just tested this on my sisters' Nexus S, and it worked. Perhaps it works on more devices?
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Yeah, it should work for any phone with 2.3.4 and above. The latest CM Nightlies build 220 has a performance option to smooth scrolling in general. Combine with this and its pretty darn smooth. Opera is a great alternative but its rendering can be screwy sometimes. Plus, it always opens pages in overview which drives me nuts, lol! But ICS, we are ALL looking forward to. I was unaware that the browser would have full hardware acceleration. That's awesome! Our devices have a decent GPU and great CPU so we should be set!

Thanks for the mod, it works well on the CM7 nightly build that I'm running

Is this only for the g2?
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No, it also works on a Nexus S and probably more devices. But I'm not sure if the .zip will work on your device.
If it doesn't, you can just extract the zip and use adb to push "libwebkitaccel.so" and "libwebcore.so" to system/lib/.

Yep it works, snappy. Thanks dude
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sino8r said:
Yeah, it should work for any phone with 2.3.4 and above. The latest CM Nightlies build 220 has a performance option to smooth scrolling in general. Combine with this and its pretty darn smooth. Opera is a great alternative but its rendering can be screwy sometimes. Plus, it always opens pages in overview which drives me nuts, lol! But ICS, we are ALL looking forward to. I was unaware that the browser would have full hardware acceleration. That's awesome! Our devices have a decent GPU and great CPU so we should be set!
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Where is that smooth scrolling option?
I can't find it.

Tommebaas said:
Where is that smooth scrolling option?
I can't find it.
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I believe it's the 16 bit transparency option under CyanogenMod Settings - Performance

theSpam said:
I believe it's the 16 bit transparency option under CyanogenMod Settings - Performance
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It causes some visual artifacts, so it's turned off.

Chrome Beta for Android

elease early, release often. Today, we’re introducing Chrome Beta channel for phones and tablets on Android 4.0+. The Beta channel was launched in the early days of Chrome to test out new features and fix issues fast. Our newest Beta channel for phones and tablets now joins our Beta versions of Chrome for Mac, Windows, Linux and Chrome OS.
You can expect early access to new features (and bugs!), as well as a chance to provide feedback on what’s on the way. Just like our other Beta versions, the new features may be a little rough around the edges, but we’ll be pushing periodic updates so you can test out our latest work as soon as it’s ready. Even better, you can install the Beta alongside your current version of Chrome for Android.
Chrome for Android now benefits from all the speed, security and other improvements that have been landing on Chrome’s other platforms. For example, in today’s Beta update we have improved the Octane performance benchmark on average by 25-30%. In addition, this update includes interesting HTML5 features for developers such as CSS Filters. This is just one step of many towards bringing beautiful experiences to the mobile web.
Ready? Use it, abuse it, and tell us what you think. Our new Chrome Beta for Android is available now on Google Play (use the link, you won't find it in search)!
Posted by Jason Kersey, Technical Program Manager & Mobile Cat Herder
http://chrome.blogspot.com/2013/01/our-newest-beta-for-android-phones-and.html
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Difference is that Chrome Beta has newer features than Chrome on the Play Store.
Download Link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.chrome.beta
... Personally I prefer the newest & latest stuff so I will be replacing Chrome with Chrome Beta on my N4. Posting for awareness.

Looking forward to try this out once I get home

Ngo93 said:
Looking forward to try this out once I get home
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Hopefully it will have more performance increases Google Blog said that you have to install it via the Play Store website otherwise you won't find it on the Play store. It probably does have increases as it does say it increases benchmarks.
Chrome for Android now benefits from all the speed, security and other improvements that have been landing on Chrome’s other platforms. For example, in today’s Beta update we have improved the Octane performance benchmark on average by 25-30%. In addition, this update includes interesting HTML5 features for developers such as CSS Filters. This is just one step of many towards bringing beautiful experiences to the mobile web.
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I decided to run sun spider on it the results are here
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r0cafella said:
I decided to run sun spider on it the results are here
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Mind comparing the stable Chrome and the stock browser as well as others? would be interesting to see the differences.

zephiK said:
Mind comparing the stable Chrome and the stock browser as well as others? would be interesting to see the differences.
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Looking at the benchmarks sun spider performance seems the same as regular chrome
I will test on AOSP Browser now
AOSP Results :-
1578.1ms
These tests I'm doing are anything but scientific BTW.
Ram hasn't been cleared I'm running paranoid android on stock kernel with stock clocks
On demand is governor iirc
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I didn't clear the RAM either. I have weird results:
Chrome Stable: 1952.0 ms
Chrome Beta: 1333.0 ms
AOSP: 1557.5 ms
lol?
another blog post,
http://googlechromereleases.blogspo...+GoogleChromeReleases+(Google+Chrome+Releases)
Performance is sluggish, noticeably on Galaxy Nexus and Nexus S
Frequent freeze on devices with specific versions of Qualcomm GPU driver
Text autosizing may break formatting on some sites
164632 - Editing bookmark feature is broken
165244 - Text position handler jumps or disappears when moving
163439 - Clicking on links in yahoo.com not navigating on Nexus 7
166233 - Unable to submit comments on Facebook posts in desktop version of Facebook
165244 - Text handler jumps or disappears when moving
167351 - Youtube video controls are lost after returning from fullscreen video mode
162486 - iframe scrolling broken
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It's fast but pretty laggy when scrolling
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I might give it a try..but dolphin beta has been plenty fast for me.
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ztmike said:
I might give it a try..but dolphin beta has been plenty fast for me.
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Doesn't hurt to try I'm sure that eventually, it will get to the stage of stability as the AOSP Browser.

Try using www.theverge.com, IMO ASOP is still smoother, I now this is beta, but seriously Google please do not release Chrome v25 and still be less smooth than stock browser.

I like all the features, and it's nice that has better benchmark scores, but it's still kinda laggy/stuttery while scrolling. Not buttery smooth like AOSP Browser or Dolphin Beta.

Turbotab said:
Try using www.theverge.com, IMO ASOP is still smoother, I now this is beta, but seriously Google please do not release Chrome v25 and still be less smooth than stock browser.
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Well that's the whole point of Beta.
Chrome Stable (how it was before today)
Chrome Beta (how it is today)
I personally don't feel any lag on Chrome and feels as smooth as AOSP browser. I never felt any lag on Chrome, but I do like AOSP Browser simply because it's Holo themed.

Is it just me or have they changed the page formatting for the beta? One thing I've always like about Chrome on Android is that pages are rendered and formatted so that text is nice and legible by default without having to zoom in all the time.
With this beta, page rendering seems to mirror AOSP and other browsers now. The same web site doesn't display the same in stable and beta.
Attached screenshots to show what I mean

just tried and still as disappointing as ever. won't use until smoothness is at least as buttery as aosp browser

So far, Chrome beta works perfectly, no input lag, scrolls nice and fast and smooth. Stock ROM, rooted, Franco v30 kernel.

SacredAce said:
So far, Chrome beta works perfectly, no input lag, scrolls nice and fast and smooth. Stock ROM, rooted, Franco v30 kernel.
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I just tried it using the desktop verge and it seems to be significantly smoother. But, use chrome only as my second browser. [AOSP browser smoothness + full screen + quick controls = WIN!!] .
So, have replaced the std. chrome with chrome beta for now. I hope they add support for full screen and gesture controls. [ the current swipe from edge to switch tabs is quite diff to do one handed]

Been using it since last night, seems faster but there are still little niggles to it. But it's labeled beta so I can't complain. Just give it time and it will be as fast as chrome on Linux.
EDIT: Sorry, bit of a derp there. I meant as fast as it is on Ubuntu etc. Android is Linux Lol.
A Nexus Connoisseur!! AOSPA!! Franco Kernel!!

Weird, the other day I was wondering why we don't have a Chrome Beta for Mobile devices.
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Sweet! I'm not going to worry about the minute performance hiccups. It's nice to know I'm on the latest and greatest.

My problem with the One V: Massive lag when using browser (please tips!)

Hi,
First of all, I appreciate that you're taking some time to read my topic
I've got a problem with my One V for a long time now. Overall, the performance of my phone is great. But when using certain apps, for example, a browser (doesn't matter which one, I tried stock browser, Chrome, Opera, Firefox, Dolphin, enz) my phone gets laggy and then completely locks up until I can't even get the screen back on and I have to hard reset it. The problem is most pronounced with browsers but I know that apps like Facebook can trigger the problem too.
I already addressed this problem earlier in the threads of ROMs I was using, but because I think most of you don't have a good idea of what I mean so I made a video to demonstrate the problem.
I have this problem with most custom ROM's. Lloir's and Maxwen's CM10 had this problem and Shpongle (which I'm currently using) has it. I used AOKP for some time back and I'm pretty sure that AOKP didn't have the problem, but unfortunately that ROM had other problems (sound not working, and that's a pretty big deal you know)
I never used stock ROM so I don't know if it's present there as well.
I feel like I'm the only victim of this issue and I've tried everything to get it solved. It's just very annoying because can't use my phone without having to reset it 1-3x per day. I'm at the point that I have no idea what could be causing it and I don't know how to solve it.
I already tried using Turbo Boost, but that didn't solve it. It is very probably not a memory issue; my RAM is not full when the problem shows up.
I'm thinking about trying to revert to stock... Maybe the issue is not present in stock ROM. But I hope you guys can help me in some way... Maybe there are other users with the same problem?

Try downloading greenify. I have this problem, and just set Facebook and other draining apps to hibernate when my screen shuts off....problem solved.
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Compizfox said:
Hi,
First of all, I appreciate that you're taking some time to read my topic
I've got a problem with my One V for a long time now. Overall, the performance of my phone is great. But when using certain apps, for example, a browser (doesn't matter which one, I tried stock browser, Chrome, Opera, Firefox, Dolphin, enz) my phone gets laggy and then completely locks up until I can't even get the screen back on and I have to hard reset it. The problem is most pronounced with browsers but I know that apps like Facebook can trigger the problem too.
I already addressed this problem earlier in the threads of ROMs I was using, but because I think most of you don't have a good idea of what I mean so I made a video to demonstrate the problem.
I have this problem with most custom ROM's. Lloir's and Maxwen's CM10 had this problem and Shpongle (which I'm currently using) has it. I used AOKP for some time back and I'm pretty sure that AOKP didn't have the problem, but unfortunately that ROM had other problems (sound not working, and that's a pretty big deal you know)
I never used stock ROM so I don't know if it's present there as well.
I feel like I'm the only victim of this issue and I've tried everything to get it solved. It's just very annoying because can't use my phone without having to reset it 1-3x per day. I'm at the point that I have no idea what could be causing it and I don't know how to solve it.
I already tried using Turbo Boost, but that didn't solve it. It is very probably not a memory issue; my RAM is not full when the problem shows up.
I'm thinking about trying to revert to stock... Maybe the issue is not present in stock ROM. But I hope you guys can help me in some way... Maybe there are other users with the same problem?
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Very strange... maybe your phone's motherboard is broken, so when WiFi transmitter gains signal and send it forward, there's some point in that way that causing problems... I'm talking about WiFi cause you haven't said what are you using: 3G/4G or WiFi... or maybe your router is causing those problems...
And you haven't got back to stock completely... I propose U to flash myONEv 9.5 or Ignorance v3 (best performance and the smoothest I think) and check if that problem repeats... addintionally you can compare CM10/AOKP with custom-Sense ROMs for me custom-Sense ROMs are better than CM10/AOKP

sellersj27 said:
Try downloading greenify. I have this problem, and just set Facebook and other draining apps to hibernate when my screen shuts off....problem solved.
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It's not like it is "draining apps". The problem only appears when the screen is on and I use the apps actively. If the phone is so slow that I can't get the screen back on, most of the time it 'recovers' again when I wait for 30-60 minutes with screen off. Off course I don't have the time for that so I hard-reset it.
So I don't think Greenify will do anything in my case.
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Very strange... maybe your phone's motherboard is broken, so when WiFi transmitter gains signal and send it forward, there's some point in that way that causing problems... I'm talking about WiFi cause you haven't said what are you using: 3G/4G or WiFi... or maybe your router is causing those problems...
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It doesn't matter whether I'm using WiFi, 2G (GPRS/EDGE), 3G (UMTS) or HSDPA.
Second, it doesn't look like the problem happens with internet access in general. It more happens with certain apps. For example, I can stream video's from Dropbox perfectly. In that case I both have heavy CPU/GPU usage (because of the video decoding/playback) and heavy internet traffic (because I stream from Dropbox), but I have no problems.
And you haven't got back to stock completely... I propose U to flash myONEv 9.5 or Ignorance v3 (best performance and the smoothest I think) and check if that problem repeats... addintionally you can compare CM10/AOKP with custom-Sense ROMs for me custom-Sense ROMs are better than CM10/AOKP
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Yeah, I think I'm gonna try that. Thanks for your help!

Today I installed myONEv RC9.5 FX+ and it is quite a bit smoother, but that goes for every fresh ROM install
I have to test for a few more days to give an answer about whether the problem is fixed or not. The problem seems to be a lot less pronounced with fresh ROM installs and I need to use it some time to be sure.
However, so far I don't think I really like Sense ROMs I've come across several things that I like better in Shpongle or CM10. For example, in most of those ROMs you get in settings an extra options menu with performance settings (overclocking, kernel settings, I/O scheduler, compcache), auto-brightness levels tweaks, auto-rotate tweaks, softkeys settings, statusbar tweaks and such. Does anyone know good compact app that features all this?
Oh, and it's only Android ICS 4.0.1 I was used to JB 4.2.2

Compizfox said:
Today I installed myONEv RC9.5 FX+ and it is quite a bit smoother, but that goes for every fresh ROM install
I have to test for a few more days to give an answer about whether the problem is fixed or not. The problem seems to be a lot less pronounced with fresh ROM installs and I need to use it some time to be sure.
However, so far I don't think I really like Sense ROMs I've come across several things that I like better in Shpongle or CM10. For example, in most of those ROMs you get in settings an extra options menu with performance settings (overclocking, kernel settings, I/O scheduler, compcache), auto-brightness levels tweaks, auto-rotate tweaks, softkeys settings, statusbar tweaks and such. Does anyone know good compact app that features all this?
Oh, and it's only Android ICS 4.0.1 I was used to JB 4.2.2
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All those things: NO... For OC and schedulers U can use NoFrills CPU Control or SetCPU or anything you will find... for statusbar tweaks, Ignorance ROM have additional flashable zip that offers centered clock + normal/% battery and right-side clock + normal/% battery... for RAM tweaks, you can flash ksm.zip from myONEv 9.5 thread or Triple Swap from here... as I remember Nova Launcher have softkeys settings

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Oh, and it's only Android ICS 4.0.1 I was used to JB 4.2.2
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It's 4.0.4 actually.
Have you tried Xtreme Turbo Booster (I think that's the name)?

MameTozhio said:
It's 4.0.4 actually.
Have you tried Xtreme Turbo Booster (I think that's the name)?
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xtreme turbo bosster ?

The browser lag is not just you. I have tried every single browser offered on google play and they all become slow and unresponsive. The only browser I use is stock 4.1.2 browser. Anything else is garbage. Including Opera Mini (not because of lag but because of its bugs in reloading pages when submitting passwords,text in boxes in general..over all its a piece of sh*t) and so are the other "mini" styled browsers. Seems the browser developers have forgotten that they are developing browsers for PHONES..NOT COMPUTERS!! Hell many of the browsers bloat up after install to sizes larger than many desktop browsers..what a joke. I down rate them all on the market.

Curtis1973 said:
The browser lag is not just you. I have tried every single browser offered on google play and they all become slow and unresponsive. The only browser I use is stock 4.1.2 browser. Anything else is garbage. Including Opera Mini (not because of lag but because of its bugs in reloading pages when submitting passwords,text in boxes in general..over all its a piece of sh*t) and so are the other "mini" styled browsers. Seems the browser developers have forgotten that they are developing browsers for PHONES..NOT COMPUTERS!! Hell many of the browsers bloat up after install to sizes larger than many desktop browsers..what a joke. I down rate them all on the market.
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That reminds be a lot of chrome. It's only smooth on my Nexus 4.. on my one v it's super slow.

MameTozhio said:
That reminds be a lot of chrome. It's only smooth on my Nexus 4.. on my one v it's super slow.
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you will find that true for firefox,next,one,dolphin,opera and all the others available. developer disregard for device limitations and posting that their work is "compatible" with "any" device of certain android types. when they are truly designing for only high end devices. a bunxh of jokesters.

Curtis1973 said:
you will find that true for firefox,next,one,dolphin,opera and all the others available. developer disregard for device limitations and posting that their work is "compatible" with "any" device of certain android types. when they are truly designing for only high end devices. a bunxh of jokesters.
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The fastest and cheapest (low mobile data usage ) browser is Opera Mini... and I haven't seen any bugs in it :good:

i beg to differ. opera mini has several bugs that go back as far as opera mini 4. inputting text in text fields like password,username and general reply/post boxes results in a page reload that requires user to start all over again...and sometimes this reload loops infinitely. the bug starts with operas flawed data compression system in which they crunch and preload pages on their servers before ypu actually get the content. its because the compression via srrver versus direct to device mucks up the transmission of the types of data mentioned. and i wont even start on the "new" opera mobile...what a joke that has become. no opera mini is not bug free by any means. and even after many users submit bug reports about the reload/lost data bug...opera does nothing...either because they cant fix it or dont think its there. well it is and has been for years..

Curtis1973 said:
i beg to differ. opera mini has several bugs that go back as far as opera mini 4. inputting text in text fields like password,username and general reply/post boxes results in a page reload that requires user to start all over again...and sometimes this reload loops infinitely. the bug starts with operas flawed data compression system in which they crunch and preload pages on their servers before ypu actually get the content. its because the compression via srrver versus direct to device mucks up the transmission of the types of data mentioned. and i wont even start on the "new" opera mobile...what a joke that has become. no opera mini is not bug free by any means. and even after many users submit bug reports about the reload/lost data bug...opera does nothing...either because they cant fix it or dont think its there. well it is and has been for years..
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Opera Mobile Classic is the only decent browser IMO, it's the only one that loads pages faster than any other browser for me.And the UI isn't that ****ty new one, it's the one from the old symbian days, the look that actually worked.

Steam. said:
Opera Mobile Classic is the only decent browser IMO, it's the only one that loads pages faster than any other browser for me.
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the stock browser is spot on versus opera mobile classic,but its a very close second. to bad opera went off on the deep end with that new crap they have up on the play store. even the apps icon sucks.

I have the same problem
But Opera mini next is so good to me.
Ultra FAST and stable
Opera mini next 7.5... Not old Opera mini
But the problem is not memory, it's because message cpu usage of these browsers
For Example Google Chrome run on 100% of cpu and Opera mini runs on 50% average with 10 open tabs!
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rostamiani said:
I have the same problem
But Opera mini next is so good to me.
Ultra FAST and stable
Opera mini next 7.5... Not old Opera mini
But the problem is not memory, it's because message cpu usage of these browsers
For Example Google Chrome run on 100% of cpu and Opera mini runs on 50% average with 10 open tabs!
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There's no Opera Mini Next in Play Store

parkourz said:
There's no Opera Mini Next in Play Store
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Here it is :
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.opera.mini.next.android&hl=en

rostamiani said:
Here it is :
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.opera.mini.next.android&hl=en
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I don't understand, I was seraching it for 20min with no results

Opera was good only in Symbian. In Android it's buggy. One browser is good.
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Kitkat browser performance

Hi guys, the kitkat update is definitely smoother than 4.3 in general. But my browser performance is definitely worse. I've tried many different browsers but I can't seem to find one that is perfectly smooth.
When I scroll it's laggy and the text doesn't get rendered quick enough. I scroll, everything gets blurry and then it takes a second until the site is sharp. I hope you understand what I'm talking about But that makes scrolling around a page really annoying.
My main browser that I used with 4.3 "habit browser" has gotten more laggy in general.
Anyone else noticing this? BTW i did a factory reset after upgrading to kitkat.

i'm using chrome and it became way better in terms of performance, yes device does not renders entire webpage in a single try but it works fine enough for me, Scrolling lag is not too much to have an effect on experince. If you are using chrome you can modify "chrome://flags" to adjust it to your liking.

Thx for the tip. I just tried dolphin and that seem the best until now. But it has some buttons in weird places. Not ideal but will do.
I also tried Firefox. It takes like 10 secs to render every time after scrolling! It's really bad.

Browsing. Why can't it be smooth?

So i have a top of the line tablet with octacore, 3gb of ram and the latest KitKat 4.4.2, I don't use energy saving either. And no matter what browser I use the experience is never satisfactory.
Chrome is pretty good but it has 0 functionality. We use our fingers not a mouse! And still laggy in certain situations (same goes for Samsung stock browser).
UC browser HD is very good too in terms of scrolling, but when you're typing text is lagging behind and switching and creating tabs stutters horribly.
And Firefox, the mother of lag. When you scroll down a page really fast it takes the browser up to 5 seconds to render the damn page! While you are already looking at it. Try it out for yourself, you scroll then you only get a gray page, then everything plops in very blurry and then after another few seconds stuff gets rendered and is finally sharp.
I know that every browser has this issue to some extent. But most render much faster than firefox so it doesn't appear as an issue. Anyway can't android keep a Web page in memory completely? I have 3gb of it!
Or maybe I'm doing it wrong or you guys can suggest me a different browser with good usability and smoothness? Thx in advance

Unfortunately it's not smooth and it seems that it will never be. Only next browser seems to be little better from others.
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Maybe you should try Dolphin Browser, imo its quite smooth and not laggy...
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I use Opera ,,very fast and smooth..
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Boat Browser and Habit Browser both are smooth and offer a lot if functionality.
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Thing is, some sites are "busy" and others are not.
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Freakstyler said:
Boat Browser and Habit Browser both are smooth and offer a lot if functionality.
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Then maybe we just have different perceptions boat browser is not smooth at all on my tablet... Maybe I have to do a video or something because boat browser is one of the most laggy browsers I've tried :/ not as bad as firefox but pretty annoying.

nearly all browsers are laggy, there is so much ad crap loaded these days.
Once the page has loaded mine is smooth, so depends on you internet speed I guess.
My Ipad is the same.

Many ram doesn't mean will smooth. Because it use power of GPU and app can be use it and resoluiton.
Opera i see very smooth. Chrome and fire fox lag like hell.

clouds5 said:
Then maybe we just have different perceptions boat browser is not smooth at all on my tablet... Maybe I have to do a video or something because boat browser is one of the most laggy browsers I've tried :/ not as bad as firefox but pretty annoying.
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We must... I've tried just about every browser on my P600.... Boat is about as fast as they come... ( I have recently started to use Habit a little more due to lower CPU use, and a few nice features).
Boat both Tablet and Phone versions have been used daily for 6months, it simply doesn't lag... I can pinch to zoom, pan, scroll all completely with ease and without any lag, stutter or hiccup. Even browsers like Opera were too slow for me, I could see the text blur for a second before becoming sharp when zooming, panning or scrolling quickly. I don't have any such issues with Boat. Others like Chrome and Firefox just aren't even close.
I have of course optimized my tablet in numerous ways (without root) such as developer option animations, and Nova launcher etc.
Feel free to try other browsers mentioned here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2516754
If you are receiving lag on boat, you are doing something wrong or you have a problem with your tablet...

Thx for your lengthy post. I'd like to believe then, that I have different settings or something... I tried to make a video and compare boat browser and UC HD (which is smooth but has other issues).
I used n4g.com and Watson.ch both are big pages with lots of images. It's not that apparent in the video though because it's not 60fps (duh) but I think you can see the difference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMsG3DVLW_g

Oh well ..
On an IPAD , you cant really scroll completely like you can in Android ...
On Android the faster you move your finger the sooner it reaches the bottom of the page .. But on IPAD it only scrolls to an extent , hiding the fact that its still loading the rest of the webpage in the background . IOS is really good at hiding a lot of other things too and I actually like that and dont mind that since the experience is nice .. The only reason why I dont like IOS is because of a lack of a file browser , no usb pen drive connectivity , expandable storage , and itunes for doing anything and very little customization ..
The UI on an IPAD is really smooth and thats how its been ... plus ios talks in low level language ( Objective - C ) to the hardware directly where as Android has a middle man ( JAVA ) in between itself and the hardware
I have a surface pro .. and thats really really smooth for anything but its too heavy ..
So I have realized there is no happy place yet
Ideally I would wish there will be an os that has Flexibility of Android , Smoothness and optimization like IOS and Power of The Surface pro .. with Accurate Stylus support .... Oh well I can only dream .. but its funny that such technology still does not exist in 2014 .

No happy place :crying: wurde
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We have some amazing browsers out there... It would just be nice if they were a bit smoother overall. And somehow it feels like it's simple a matter of better code and not hardware limitations... That's what's bugging me!

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Thx for your lengthy post. I'd like to believe then, that I have different settings or something... I tried to make a video and compare boat browser and UC HD (which is smooth but has other issues).
I used n4g.com and Watson.ch both are big pages with lots of images. It's not that apparent in the video though because it's not 60fps (duh) but I think you can see the difference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMsG3DVLW_g
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No problems... I can see the differences in your video, I'm not sure it's a huge difference but I can notice it.
Can you try the Mobile version of Boat instead of the Tablet version, for some reason I mainly stuck with the Phone version, although I have both loaded. I will try and also post a video at some stage of the varying browsers on mine to also show the difference, but it may take a few days...
Also UC browser (which has a reputation for being one of the fastest) seems to work fairly well on your video. What were/are your other issues, perhaps it's easier to address those issues than trying to get the other browsers working as fast for you.

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So i have a top of the line tablet with octacore, 3gb of ram and the latest KitKat 4.4.2, I don't use energy saving either. And no matter what browser I use the experience is never satisfactory.
Chrome is pretty good but it has 0 functionality. We use our fingers not a mouse! And still laggy in certain situations (same goes for Samsung stock browser).
UC browser HD is very good too in terms of scrolling, but when you're typing text is lagging behind and switching and creating tabs stutters horribly.
And Firefox, the mother of lag. When you scroll down a page really fast it takes the browser up to 5 seconds to render the damn page! While you are already looking at it. Try it out for yourself, you scroll then you only get a gray page, then everything plops in very blurry and then after another few seconds stuff gets rendered and is finally sharp.
I know that every browser has this issue to some extent. But most render much faster than firefox so it doesn't appear as an issue. Anyway can't android keep a Web page in memory completely? I have 3gb of it!
Or maybe I'm doing it wrong or you guys can suggest me a different browser with good usability and smoothness? Thx in advance
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Do you use developer options?
Boat browser was stuttering for me a lot also. Seeing this thread reminded me of the force GPU rendering option which I had checked.
I just unchecked it and it seems to be making a difference
Edit: Disregard that, doesn't make any difference.

Hmm. I like the stock browser in 4.4. It's a hell of a lot faster than 4.3 was. XDA and the WSJ are heavy sites; is this slow?

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Hmm. I like the stock browser in 4.4. It's a hell of a lot faster than 4.3 was. XDA and the WSJ are heavy sites; is this slow?
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To me that does seem a tad bit on the slow side. Not so much the page loading but the repressiveness to pinch-to-zoom and finger scrolling seemed a bit laggy.

elsamuraiguapo said:
To me that does seem a tad bit on the slow side. Not so much the page loading but the repressiveness to pinch-to-zoom and finger scrolling seemed a bit laggy.
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Screen painting is a bit slower than my N3 but that's to be expected considering the enormous difference in display area. Page loading (which is slower than screen painting) is exactly the same on both. So is navigating around a page once it's loaded. I guess I have low standards.

BarryH_GEG said:
Screen painting is a bit slower than my N3 but that's to be expected considering the enormous difference in display area. Page loading (which is slower than screen painting) is exactly the same on both. So is navigating around a page once it's loaded. I guess I have low standards.
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I don't have a Note 3 but I have a Nexus 5 and it's no where near that laggy. In fact I'm pretty sure my Note 10.1 2014 is smoother than that as well. But I'm rooted with a bunch of tweaks, custom ROM, and custom kernel.

Here my takes:
1) Boat browser - fastest and best features, support flash
2) dolphin browser - second place, similar features as Boat, support flash
3) Others that support flash.
Try http://finance.yahoo.com and see how fast and how the page display with your browser!!