There's a bluetooth bug in 7.1.1 and possibly in Nougat in general where a bluetooth device would connect and be in the state "Connected (no phone)."
This prevents the device from making or receiving phone calls or invoking the Google Assistant (but you can still stream music).
Now, this is clearly a bug, and it may or may not show up for different people with different configurations of their software/settings/devices. So, if you don't experience this bug, please keep that in mind.
I have this bug and it annoys the hell out of me. It was not there before 7.1.1 for me personally, but it was for many people with bt car devices. Some have reported the bug being fixed in 7.1.1, so maybe fixing it for some in 7.1.1 broke it for others. I have researched this for many hours over many days. So, here's something new I just found out.
My setup is a Pixel XL with Project FI on 7.1.1 patch and very few apps installed. Also connected is a Huawei Watch, which may be important.
The symptoms are as follows: when a bt device turns on and tries to connect to the phone, it connects in a "Connected (no phone)" state. A way to remedy this is to go to Settings/Bluetooh, click on the device to disconnect it and then click on it again to connect it. Then it connects correctly in a "Connected" state.
Here's something I just noticed.
1) If a smartwatch is already connected beforehand, "Connected (no phone)" happens.
2) If a smartwatch is disconnected, then the bt device connects correctly.
3) If you force a connection to bt device manually, as described above, the watch seems to disconnect from phone functions - now making a call on the watch produces bt phone audio on the bt device, and not on the watch as it should.
4) If you force a connection to the watch, while the bt device is connected correctly, the bt device goes into "Connected (no phone)" state immediately.
So, it seems like 7.1.1 introduced an entirely new bug for someone like myself with a similar setup - the phone audio to a bt device and a smartwatch are mutually exclusive. Either watch can use bt phone audio or a bt device, but not both at the same time.
I am not sure about Nougat, but on the Galaxy Note 7 with Marshmallow, the bt phone audio would play correctly on a watch or a bt device depending on who initiated or answered a call, or called up Google Assistant. In other words, both the watch and bt device could be used simultaneously, without conflict.
I would appreciate some feedback, possibly with ideas of fixing this issue. Thanks!
Seems to me ( and I'm just saying . . . I'm just guessing . . . ) this is a carrier connectivity issue spilling into the BT.
Is this at work or at home or both ? ? ?
When you are on "Project Fi" - who is 'actually' providing you your cell service ? ? ? Sprint ? ? ( poopie quantity of cell towers . . . )
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( honest stuff next )
I was on t-mobile last year and I had okay service at work and pretty damn crappy service at home. . . . It was like I had to go outside and get the ladder to make a call . . .
old_fart said:
Seems to me ( and I'm just saying . . . I'm just guessing . . . ) this is a carrier connectivity issue spilling into the BT.
Is this at work or at home or both ? ? ?
When you are on "Project Fi" - who is 'actually' providing you your cell service ? ? ? Sprint ? ? ( poopie quantity of cell towers . . . )
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( honest stuff next )
I was on t-mobile last year and I had okay service at work and pretty damn crappy service at home. . . . It was like I had to go outside and get the ladder to make a call . . .
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It seems to be a bug introduced in 7.1.1, as this was not a problem in 7.1. I'm not sure how a cellular radio can affect a bt radio. Are you saying that you have seen someone who was not on Project Fi and didn't have this bug?
Update: I just tested it with a brand new Motorola Roadster 2. I didn't wear a smartwatch intentionally and the car kit connected correctly, and I was able to speak and make phone calls. Of course, when I was wearing the watch yesterday, it connected as "Connected (no phone.)"
When will Google fire their bluetooth "guru" and hire someone who can actually make this work?
EDIT: I know how this sounds, but it is the truth!
nabbed said:
Update: I just tested it with a brand new Motorola Roadster 2. I didn't wear a smartwatch intentionally and the car kit connected correctly, and I was able to speak and make phone calls. Of course, when I was wearing the watch yesterday, it connected as "Connected (no phone.)"
When will Google fire their bluetooth "guru" and hire someone who can actually make this work?
EDIT: I know how this sounds, but it is the truth!
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You are right. Google's Bluetooth has been buggy for a long time.
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TonikJDK said:
You are right. Google's Bluetooth has been buggy for a long time.
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Thank you!
But can we have a fix already?
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All,
I have this small issue with my HTC Desire and the Parrot CK3000 Evolution. Until now, everything works perfectly (calling, sending contacts, voice dialing, ending calls,...)
However I have one small issue. When I enter my car, and my phone is locked, the Desire will not pair with the Parrot. From the moment I activate the screen, pairing is done within a few seconds. I already tried to leave it there for half an hour, no pairing, touched the screen, pairing within a few seconds.
It looks to me like the bluetooth is not active / alive when the phone is locked (or in sleep). From the moment the pairing is done, everything works fine, also when the phone is back in lock / sleep.
Anybody has anything similar or has a solution for this? I searched the market for some kind of Bluetooth-keep-alive application, but could not really find it...
Thanks in advance,
Best regards,
Speedygerre
Small bump, nobody any idea for a solution or somekind of workaround / app?
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I have a similar situation with my Audi A5 (factory BT kit).
It will connect when the phone is locked (screen off etc) but it can take anything from 1 to 10 minutes before it does connect.
Like yourself, my Desire connects immediately if the phone is not locked.
Strangely, it appears to work OK in my Mazda MX-5 which has a Kenwood DNX8220BT system (Bluetooth, SatNav, Ipod, coffee maker etc) - and the Bluetooth is a Parrot system. Having said that, I haven't used the MX-5 much since I got my Desire so it might not be a representative sample.
There is definitely something amiss though.
I have a Parrot CK 3100, and whilst I am happy to report that I do not have the same problem as you, I did have a problem syncing my contacts.
Check out this site, and download the software to udate to the latest firmware. You will need a laptop with either built in bluetooth, or a seperate bluetooth dongle.
http://www.parrot.com/uk/support/onlinehelpguides
I updated the firmware on mine, and now my contacts sync properly.
There is a good chance that updating could fix your connection problem as well.
Sorry forgot to add, that updating the kit really is a doddle, but their software is Windows 32bit ONLY and definitely no MAC!
Thans pergolesi, I hope your suggestion workshop, I will try it when I have some time one of the next days.
However I still think it has something to do with the Desire, since syncing workshop perfectly when Desire is not locked...
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I don't know about the Bluetooth but I know my wifi deactivates after about 5 minutes when it's locked even though I have it set to never turn off. Maybe the Bluetooth is doing the same.
Perhaps not much help, but I sometimes play music from my Desire on my car headunit using Bluetooth streaming, and that continues to work fine when the screen goes off and the phone is locked. It also still responds to commands from the headunit (skip, pause, etc).
Once it's connected, everything works OK for me as well, it just is the connecting moment which apparently does not always work
REB1 said:
I have a similar situation with my Audi A5 (factory BT kit).
It will connect when the phone is locked (screen off etc) but it can take anything from 1 to 10 minutes before it does connect.
Like yourself, my Desire connects immediately if the phone is not locked.
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Can I ask what year your A5 is? I've got a 2010 A3 and BT doesn't work properly with my Desire I can get it to pair, but then it will disconnect a few minutes later and the only way to reconnect seems to be to unpair/repair or switch the car off/on. When it IS working it can make calls, etc. fine - but I just can't get it to stay connected I tried my Audi dealer but they just said it's not on the Audi list and there's no update to support it, so interested to hear you got it working on your A5.
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Can I ask what year your A5 is? I've got a 2010 A3 and BT doesn't work properly with my Desire I can get it to pair, but then it will disconnect a few minutes later and the only way to reconnect seems to be to unpair/repair or switch the car off/on. When it IS working it can make calls, etc. fine - but I just can't get it to stay connected I tried my Audi dealer but they just said it's not on the Audi list and there's no update to support it, so interested to hear you got it working on your A5.
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My A5 is a 2008 model with SatNav and therefore MMI High. The Desire paired straight away with no problems and both the car and the phone remember each other - it just takes awhile sometimes for one or the other to realise it and connect.
I'm pretty certain that it is the phone that has the problem as I had no such problems with several Sony Ericsson phones previously.
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My A5 is a 2008 model with SatNav and therefore MMI High. The Desire paired straight away with no problems and both the car and the phone remember each other - it just takes awhile sometimes for one or the other to realise it and connect.
I'm pretty certain that it is the phone that has the problem as I had no such problems with several Sony Ericsson phones previously.
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Thanks - interesting. I wonder how many different BT stacks Audi run - I was hoping they'd share some common code and therefore be updated quickly but it sounds like this isn't the case given that it's working fine on your A5. Thanks for the info though!
hey guys after all these years I'm finally back to Android.
I have the HTC One m8 with Verizon and so far I really like it. the only problem is I can't get the Bluetooth to work with my car. Its a 11 Mazda 3, what happens is when it ask for the password for the pairing I enter it (all zeros) after I push okay the car lose the connection and the phone says paired but my car dosent ask for a devise name. I hear there's a problem with this version of Android and Bluetooth into cars. is there like an app i can download or something I can do please someone help. I don't wanna go back to my iPhone
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hey guys after all these years I'm finally back to Android.
I have the HTC One m8 with Verizon and so far I really like it. the only problem is I can't get the Bluetooth to work with my car. Its a 11 Mazda 3, what happens is when it ask for the password for the pairing I enter it (all zeros) after I push okay the car lose the connection and the phone says paired but my car dosent ask for a devise name. I hear there's a problem with this version of Android and Bluetooth into cars. is there like an app i can download or something I can do please somt wanna go back to my iPhone
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I don't have a Mazda, but have the Verizon M8 and have no issues pairing my phone for both calls and audio, regardless of whatever ROM I've tried. Your car is three years old, so I suspect the problem is there. I would take it into Mazda and see if there is a software update for their entertainment/bluetooth. Also, if you've paired up your phone to anything else previously (headphones, speaker, etc.) you might want to delete those pairings before trying to set it up again. If none of those things work, then you might be out of luck unless you want to upgrade your car stereo. There are many instances where certain devices/cars just don't work well together, but the M8 has the latest bluetooth release available. Good luck.
Thanks for the support and for helping find the Solution!
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I don't have a Mazda, but have the Verizon M8 and have no issues pairing my phone for both calls and audio, regardless of whatever ROM I've tried. Your car is three years old, so I suspect the problem is there. I would take it into Mazda and see if there is a software update for their entertainment/bluetooth. Also, if you've paired up your phone to anything else previously (headphones, speaker, etc.) you might want to delete those pairings before trying to set it up again. If none of those things work, then you might be out of luck unless you want to upgrade your car stereo. There are many instances where certain devices/cars just don't work well together, but the M8 has the latest bluetooth release available. Good luck.
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Think you for your fast response, so I called up my dealership and they said they don't have any updates for my stereo.
But I did find a solution YAY!
1. keep one of the failed pairs in your phone
2. download "Bluetooth Connect and Play"
3. Here are the settings you want:
Bluetooth Receiver is [ON]
when this bluetooth device connects...
[*] Mazda
4. Click the 3 dots in the corner and click "Tweaks"
5. Heres what you want:
When trigger player
(*) Start player on basic bluetooth connect only
Seconds to wait 0
everything else unchecked
6. Make sure all other connections are deleted from your car and then set the car to pair while the code 0000 is on the screen go to your bluetooth settings and delete "Mazda" then click "Mazda" when it comes up enter 0000 and then bluetooth connect and play will come up and music will start playing
7. music will stop and it will ask you to name the device.. cool
8. enjoy wireless music
Each time I use Mi6 via bluetooth in car to answer/make calls - first call goes OK, and all others not - people I talk to don't hear me. It happena in 4 different cars so it's not car's problem. Mi5 was OK. I run 7.1.1 NMF26X global beta. miui 8 7.6.8 global beta. And can't solve it myself. Tried deleting and re-adding cars, restarted phone - nothing helped. When I switch to phone during call - it's OK. As soon as I switch back to car - same problem. No one hears me and I hear everyone.
Any1?
I'm sorry but I can't test because I don't have any Bluetooth devices.
Not using any bluetooth device either.
Hello there
I'm a new xiaomi mi6 user. I have 7.5.25 version rom installed on my phone. My phone does not see andriod wear app on my smart clock with bluetooth. Also does not share internet with hotspot. There is also a problem with the GPS, the satellites can not find it immediately. can you help me.
Thank you
ERSL said:
Hello there
I'm a new xiaomi mi6 user. I have 7.5.25 version rom installed on my phone. My phone does not see andriod wear app on my smart clock with bluetooth. Also does not share internet with hotspot. There is also a problem with the GPS, the satellites can not find it immediately. can you help me.
Thank you
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Ok, one by one.
1. My phone does not see andriod wear app on my smart clock with bluetooth --> My watch works, did you unpair your watch with old phone first? Android wear watch can only connect to 1 phone.
2. There's personal hotspot, you can see it in the settings menu.
3. GPS needs time to find your phone, you need to have wifi (or mobile data connection to assist the phone), if it located your phone, next time GPS will work faster.
It is a different issue with me: when paired with a BT device with the "phone audio" profile enabled, despite picking up the call on via pressing the green button on the touchscreen, it still defaults to the BT device (and I have to switch audio back to "phone" before the other person cuts off after hearing nothing). This is on the global ROM 8.2.2.0...
The global ROM seems buggy as hell...
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Hello Friend.
The same happens to me.
It connects to bluetooth but I have no output or audio input.
Did you get it fixed?
Thank you
Everyone.
This is not xiaomi's problem.
This problem is due to oreo's new bluetooth stack.
There is no current solution to this. I've searched far, wide and deep.
Android has a great track record in keeping the bluetooth stack broken.
If you try to search google, you will find out that not only xiaomi phones have this problem.
The only theoretical solution is to port old bluetooth blobs, and somehow make it work. But as far as i know, no one has done this before.
There is hope that android pie will fix this. But from what i read, early builds of pie still has this problem.
I just purchased the Galaxy Watch Active and have a few questions about Bluetooth & wireless connectivity. I hope someone can share their experience with me.
1. Should the watch always be connected to Bluetooth on my phone? Or, only connected when I want to sync to S-Health, install a new watch face, et. al.?
2. If I desire to connect my phone to another Bluetooth device (Ticpods, speaker), must I disconnect from the watch?
Q: Is this standard practice?
--- Yes, I can connect 2 devices to my Note9 but curious if there are any connectivity implications with both devices connected.
(I am thinking in terms of Fitbit Versa where phone Bluetooth is not connected(from what I could tell) even though FB Versa shows as choice in Bluetooth devices.)
3. I have not set up wireless yet and will do so this evening when home.
Q: What are the different use cases for Wireless vs. Bluetooth on the SWA?
FYI - I am an XDA old-timer but a newbie to this watch. Your feedback is appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
~j
johninsf said:
I just purchased the Galaxy Watch Active and have a few questions about Bluetooth & wireless connectivity. I hope someone can share their experience with me.
1. Should the watch always be connected to Bluetooth on my phone? Or, only connected when I want to sync to S-Health, install a new watch face, et. al.?
2. If I desire to connect my phone to another Bluetooth device (Ticpods, speaker), must I disconnect from the watch?
Q: Is this standard practice?
--- Yes, I can connect 2 devices to my Note9 but curious if there are any connectivity implications with both devices connected.
(I am thinking in terms of Fitbit Versa where phone Bluetooth is not connected(from what I could tell) even though FB Versa shows as choice in Bluetooth devices.)
3. I have not set up wireless yet and will do so this evening when home.
Q: What are the different use cases for Wireless vs. Bluetooth on the SWA?
FYI - I am an XDA old-timer but a newbie to this watch. Your feedback is appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
~j
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1 Always connected to BT so you get notifications etc. 24/7
2 No need to disconnect when using other devices.
3 A lot ppl don't seem to like WiFi and call it useless. I am not too sure. IDK Can't do much without BT.
Dixon Butz said:
1 Always connected to BT so you get notifications etc. 24/7
2 No need to disconnect when using other devices.
3 A lot ppl don't seem to like WiFi and call it useless. I am not too sure. IDK Can't do much without BT.
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Thank you for the feedback!
Hello
I'm facing the problem that the bluetooth connection to my cars multimedia unit is a big mess since 2020.
But not only when connecting to the cars BT. Every BT connection will randomly asks for permission to the contacts or messages...
The phone will not store this information correctly anymore. My car is an 2020 Opel and sometimes it says that the bt connection can't be established, but it actually plays music over this connection and phonebook is also transfered.
I have the pixel 3XL since it came out and it is completely stock non rooted or something like that (I'm to old for this stuff as a daily driver )
So, did google mess the driver up that it will not work correctly anymore? Or does someone know what's going on in the device?
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Hello
I'm facing the problem that the bluetooth connection to my cars multimedia unit is a big mess since 2020.
But not only when connecting to the cars BT. Every BT connection will randomly asks for permission to the contacts or messages...
The phone will not store this information correctly anymore. My car is an 2020 Opel and sometimes it says that the bt connection can't be established, but it actually plays music over this connection and phonebook is also transfered.
I have the pixel 3XL since it came out and it is completely stock non rooted or something like that (I'm to old for this stuff as a daily driver )
So, did google mess the driver up that it will not work correctly anymore? Or does someone know what's going on in the device?
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Have tried different ROM's on this Pixel 3 XL so I completely understand the Bluetooth issue. Have grown to rely on turning off Bluetooth before using the passcode; kind of helps with the new ViPER4Android FX,
Since using ScorpionROM, haven't had any Bluetooth issues. Maybe give it a shot and see if it helps