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[How-To] Moto G wireless charging (Universal Qi Receiver)

I've received my universal Qi wireless receiver today. The receiver is smaller than I had thought and fits perfectly into the Moto G. Since our phone lacks internal preparation for Qi (like it can be found on the Samsung Note 2), the connection is made via a micro USB plug. The backdoor can still be clipped on without being disturbed by the Qi receiver pad or its flat band cable. Charging time should be about the about the same as charging the phone from a PC USB port that doesn't output more than 500mA.
This solution is obviously for those who don't need the phones usb port on a daily basis.
The adapter on the left picture (and in the video) is from ebay and is the one that arrived here first. I’ve changed the cable routing to remove the ugly bulge that was visible on my first picture. This adapter outputs a maximum of 500mA and can be purchased from ebay.
Make sure to purchase the "interface layout A, narrow interface up” variant.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261348107126
17.Jan.2014 - The picture on the right shows an adapter purchased from DealExtreme, that arrived here yesterday. This adapter delivers up to 650mA and the flat band cable comes out of the lower side instead out of the backside which removes the need to bent over the cable.
http://dx.com/p/zy-408-wireless-charging-receiver-for-mobile-phone-micro-usb-black-259151
Both adapters work well, so don't worry if you've already bought the one I've first reviewed. (I have both version in use on different phones)
Here is a small video that shows me placing the receiver inside the Moto G:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2WPjw-WaCI
Update 13.02.2014
From my testing I can tell the following:
1. An unrooted Moto G needs to be screen locked (I use the pattern lock type) or it will refuse to charge due to the missing pins. You can unlock the screen while it is charging as long as you don't lift it from the qi charger. (tested on 4.3 and 4.4.2, DE and FR firmware)
2. Root in combination with dubidu's tool makes it more straightforward but is not required.

Shadow_2k said:
I've received my universal Qi wireless receiver today. The receiver is smaller than I had thought and fits perfectly into the Moto G. Since our phone doesn't support Qi in any way, the connection is made via a micro USB plug. The backdoor can still be clipped on without being disturbed by the Qi receiver pad or its flat band cable.
This solution is obviously for those who don't need the phones usb port on a daily basis.
Should you wish to buy an adapter for your Moto G, make sure to get the "narrow-interface up" variant
I've also made a short video:
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Nice. Can you tell us where you got it from -- is it just one manufacturer making these?
Cheers.

I just bought it off amazon (hooray rewards card, it was free).
http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Wir...micro-USB/dp/B00H7FJX7M/ref=pd_rhf_gw_p_tnr_1
Theres a few on ebay if you just look up "Universal QI Wireless Charging Receiver film"

JCBomb said:
I just bought it off amazon (hooray rewards card, it was free).
Theres a few on ebay if you just look up "Universal QI Wireless Charging Receiver film"
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Thanks. I had looked on fleaBay and it looks like they all have the same packaging. I imagine any qi wireless charger thingy should work. In theory.

anyone know if this would work through an otterbox case? or I guess if this would even work with one due to the fact the part that plugs in sticks out a little bit...

I've bought it here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261348107126
The auction uses the same pictures as used in the amazon offer posted by JCBomb, might even be the same seller.

This is cool! I just hope there's like another way we can integrate that wireless charger.

Just saw your post at android.hilfe and started looking for some charger, it's indeed a neat solution.
Universal QI Wireless Charging Receiver film for micro-USB of All Android Mobile (7,99 USD):
http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...eName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
QI Wireless Charger Transmitter Charging Pad for Nokia Lumia 920 HTC 8X Nexus 4 (15,39 USD):
http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...eName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Are u guys using this wireless QI receiver? I'm going to buy one next month, D: . Just for curiosity, how much time do u guys spend to get a full charge with the QI

Guys i found this one at dx.com
http://dx.com/pt/p/micro-usb-qi-wireless-charging-back-clip-black-253066

Those kind of product are not so great are chaging, basically it's almost the same power that if you charge through uSB = 500mA.
What you need to check is the charging value, sometime it's :
- 400mA or less (avoid it, will take ages to charge),
- 500mA (just like your regular USB charger),
- 1000mA (great ones, will charge just like a wall charger, twice as fast as the previous model).
So the one at DX is great, but they're cheaper on ebay, plus you can choose between Black or White - http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...eName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

This one was the cheapest (around £15) I could find and works fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2601628

impressive
wow, so cool :good:

Am I the only one thinking about finding the plug they use with all the pins intact and integrating a micro sd card into it for OTG storage? Wireless charging and storage, all in one, and fitting under a case.

I had that exact thought about two hours ago. Throw NFC in their while your at it.
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I had actually started to do some verrrry preliminary research into something like it using a ribbon cable and another usb port, so you could plug the phone into a wall charger and have the usb/sd card piggybacked off the cable. Hadn't gotten very far though...job, kid, wife etc.......
Someone TAKE MY MONEY for it!! Especially since it seems we're all soon to be headed down the 'no sd card' path.

I just got a Moto G for my wife and Nokia Wireless Charging Plate DT900 is not working any ideas why ?

It's not working with one of the universal QI receivers? Have you try enabling the floating charging (see my post)

tomciopaluch357 said:
I just got a Moto G for my wife and Nokia Wireless Charging Plate DT900 is not working any ideas why ?
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Yes, you also need receiver in your phone.

tomciopaluch357 said:
I just got a Moto G for my wife and Nokia Wireless Charging Plate DT900 is not working any ideas why ?
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Hello.
The Moto G doesn't support Qi on its own, you'll need to rig it with an universal wireless Qi charging receiver.
You can buy them from ebay, dealextreme and some other china based stores. The first post contains a short installation video.
This one from dealextreme will work (Output up to 650mA):
http://dx.com/p/zy-408-wireless-charging-receiver-for-mobile-phone-micro-usb-black-259151
as well as this one from ebay (Output up to 500mA):
make sure to purchase "interface layout A, narrow interface up)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261348107126

[Videos] Accessory reviews - bumper, qi chargers and receivers

Here are my videos for some accessories I just finished setting up and testing for the past 2 weeks. Enjoy!
Qi Receiver pad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lppntHQDPls
Qi Jellyfish Car Charger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cACHmuAX9ts
Qi Generic Desk Charger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4NWQaajoVw
Generic Aluminum Bumper: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pqlIADNs0M
Feel free to ask questions about them!
Note: I used the included USB cables for my "field" testing, in case anyone was wondering.
Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49509790&postcount=52 regarding USB cables and quality

Can you show how it looks with a stock back cover? I also have a Qi charger pad and with stock back cover you can close it but it makes a bump at the "samsung" part and you can actually see the cover coming above the camera lens something that stock is the other way.
It annoys me so much I took it out and sttoped using wireless charging.

[Q] Upright stand + magnets + qi charging?

Is this asking too much of a nexus 5 accessory? Is it out there, somewhere? I like my car's air dock, I like my home's qi stand, so I'd like to know is there a best of both worlds?

Not quite sure what you are asking about here, but I have 2 Nexus Qi chargers, one for home and one for my car. I use the LG QuickCover for Nexus 5 that will stick to the magnets of the charger without a phone in it. The charger in my car is mounted at an angle on my dash so I can use it for sat-nav. Perfect setup in my view.

Wireless charger with case

Hello,
I am interested in buying a CHOETECH UPGRADED (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AS3H8BMRCXYCT) wireless charger for my nexus 5. I have a nillkin frosted shield case on my phone. I am curious if it would charge with that case on. And I'd like to know your opinion on that charger.
Thanks!

Qi chargers can charge from about 6mm (~1/4in) distance away from contact with the receiver in the phone. Unless your phone case is insanely thick, or made of metal, it will charge just fine through it.

I use that charger all the time. I've used 4 different cases on my phone and all worked the same.

Wireless charging

Could anybody recomend a good wireless charging receiver and case combo that work well together? I've tried to slide several business cards under Spigen Rugged Armor to imitate a real receiver (probably receiver is actually thinner than two cards). The case pops up showing an ugly hump.

Spigen Thin Fit has an indent specifically for a wireless charging receiver... It also doesn't cover top/bottom of the phone so the receiver ribbon and plug fits perfectly. I have one and it works great(w/short version receiver) . Another is the Pitaka real cf MagCase. Both offer decent protection, if you need a heavy duty case I'm not sure which work
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BTW, what is the real thickness of a wireless charging receiver?

an21281 said:
Spigen Thin Fit has an indent specifically for a wireless charging receiver... It also doesn't cover top/bottom of the phone so the receiver ribbon and plug fits perfectly. I have one and it works great(w/short version receiver) . Another is the Pitaka real cf MagCase. Both offer decent protection, if you need a heavy duty case I'm not sure which work
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Hola
Very interesting. Can you please let me know which wireless receiver you are using... Some that I have used in the past never provided enough current for the phone to even detect so it did not charge.
Thanks for the info.
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I'm curious is there anything we can put under a case to make QI work?

patt2k said:
I'm curious is there anything we can put under a case to make QI work?
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You can. Search for "wireless charging receiver". The question is how to hide it under a case. Unfortunately I'm not a fan of "Spigen Thin Fit".

I've tried and returned several wireless charging receivers and the only one that actually worked well was Cusorient: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0713ST47Z
The other receivers would only charge anywhere from 50-250 mA but this one has been averaging from 750-1000 mA and puts a smile on my face. There are times I have seen it charge 500 mA or less but not often. I'm happy I finally found one that works well because I'm heavily invested in wireless chargers from having previously owned a Nexus 6. I even bought a spare charging receiver in case I ever screw up the ribbon cable. My case on my phone is a Spigen Thin Fit and while I can tell it's there, it's not a huge ugly bump and the case still fits properly.

an21281 said:
Spigen Thin Fit has an indent specifically for a wireless charging receiver... It also doesn't cover top/bottom of the phone so the receiver ribbon and plug fits perfectly. I have one and it works great(w/short version receiver) . Another is the Pitaka real cf MagCase. Both offer decent protection, if you need a heavy duty case I'm not sure which work
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That little indent is actually for a metal plate that goes with their magnet mounting system. It even says what it is for on the case when you get it. Now, sure you can probably use it for wireless charging receivers too, just trying to prevent the spread of misinformation
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0...el2_xl_thin_fit_01_2048x2048.jpg?v=1508954700

Veritech said:
I've tried and returned several wireless charging receivers and the only one that actually worked well was Cusorient: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0713ST47Z
The other receivers would only charge anywhere from 50-250 mA but this one has been averaging from 750-1000 mA and puts a smile on my face. There are times I have seen it charge 500 mA or less but not often. I'm happy I finally found one that works well because I'm heavily invested in wireless chargers from having previously owned a Nexus 6. I even bought a spare charging receiver in case I ever screw up the ribbon cable. My case on my phone is a Spigen Thin Fit and while I can tell it's there, it's not a huge ugly bump and the case still fits properly.
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I had the Nilken wireless receiver that worked great with the Pixel XL, but almost no charging with the XL 2. I too am heavily invested in wireless charging accessories.
I ordered this one today, thanks for doing the research. Fingers crossed that it works good!
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assuming that if i use magnetic mount for car... i couldn't use one of these adapters right?

grinchyyy said:
I had the Nilken wireless receiver that worked great with the Pixel XL, but almost no charging with the XL 2. I too am heavily invested in wireless charging accessories.
I ordered this one today, thanks for doing the research. Fingers crossed that it works good!
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Can you please advise once you get it? The Nilkin works poorly for me.

Sean09 said:
Can you please advise once you get it? The Nilkin works poorly for me.
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It definitely works better but not by much. I have a TYLT desk charger and I get about 5% per half hour charging rate.
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grinchyyy said:
It definitely works better but not by much. I have a TYLT desk charger and I get about 5% per half hour charging rate.
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Wow. That's terrible. If that's the best we can expect to get with these receivers, I give up on getting wireless charging on this phone. Luckily, now that Apple added Qi to the iPhone 8, Google basically has to in the upcoming Pixel.

https://www.amazon.com/Spigen-Google-Wallet-Design-Holder/dp/B07474KKY2
I think using this case paired with a QI receiver would be the best bet right now. You could put a receiver in the wallet section, create a small recess for the ribbon and have a great solution.
Using cases seems to be hit or miss and taping the thing to the back of my $800 phone just aint gonna happen.
Google really biffed on this one, an expensive phone like this should have every feature available plus some. Or at least accessories to add them. I love the pixel, but I love wireless charging too. I missed it ever since my Nexus 5. I have not had a phone with it since, but definitely would like to see it return to a Google Device.

Veritech said:
I've tried and returned several wireless charging receivers and the only one that actually worked well was Cusorient: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0713ST47Z
The other receivers would only charge anywhere from 50-250 mA but this one has been averaging from 750-1000 mA and puts a smile on my face. There are times I have seen it charge 500 mA or less but not often. I'm happy I finally found one that works well because I'm heavily invested in wireless chargers from having previously owned a Nexus 6. I even bought a spare charging receiver in case I ever screw up the ribbon cable. My case on my phone is a Spigen Thin Fit and while I can tell it's there, it's not a huge ugly bump and the case still fits properly.
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I looked at that one but my concern is the receiver being right against the finish of the phone and if it gets hot would it cause any damage? I've been looking for a case with the TPU then outer shell I can put the receiver between. Have you noticed anything with the finish/coating being damaged?

jdpeck said:
Have you noticed anything with the finish/coating being damaged?
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I've taken the case off often for general cleaning or from necessity of needing my USB port for one reason or another and I have not noticed any sort of damage to the phone or case surface at all.

What about the one CNET did an article on???
Article:
h t t p s://www.cnet.com/how-to/i-spent-13-to-add-wireless-charging-to-my-android-phone/
Device:
h t t p s://www.amazon.com/dp/B074SHBXC5?tag=cnet-vig-howto-20

I have that wireless receiver on my pixel 2 XL. It charges up alright but slow by comparison. I have a Satechi inline usb-c power meter and connecting in between the receiver and the phone, it's showing the receiver supplying around 750-800mA. Of course this may vary with the wireless charger, but that's what I'm seeing. I would estimate it charges about 30-40% as fast as a wired charger.
I'm using this with a Spigen Rugged Armour case and find that it made quite a bump on the back. I have sanded some of the inner part of the case away to relieve this with a Dremel and it's an improvement. Why they don't make cases with these cutouts or a removable panel to accommodate a wireless receiver I have no idea.
Actually, I wonder if there was any interest in me machining these cases to order. I could make a fixture to allow me to rout out these cases to accept a wireless charging receiver.

grinchyyy said:
I had the Nilken wireless receiver that worked great with the Pixel XL, but almost no charging with the XL 2. I too am heavily invested in wireless charging accessories.
I ordered this one today, thanks for doing the research. Fingers crossed that it works good!
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Missing my Nexus 6 wireless charging, about to purchase this one for my Pixel 2 XL. How is it doing?

Jope31 said:
Missing my Nexus 6 wireless charging, about to purchase this one for my Pixel 2 XL. How is it doing?
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It does ok, does better with a fast wireless charging base. About 5-10% per hour with my old wireless chargers vs 15-20% per hour with a generic fast wireless charger.
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