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Hi Everyone,
A friend of mine was telling about the FTV and I thought I'd look into it. I currently have an ATV2 with XBMC installed. For the most part it works pretty good. Icefilms is hit and miss, but I don't use it very often. ATV2 is kinda getting slow and after reading about the FTV I want one. I was wondering if someone can sort me out.
First,
If I buy a unit from Amazon can it still be rooted? I heard there was a software update in June and wondering if it's been locked up like Apple does with their stuff?
Second,
I use a Harmony One remote and heard Flirc works with the Harmony Remote. Can anyone confirm this?
Third,
That same friend who told me bought the FTV said he watched a youtube video on the FTV with XBMC installed on it and said it ran really slow. Now the video was from April, so I'm hoping XBMC has made some big improvements so it works well with FTV.
Thanks,
Chevy
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If you get a FireTV you will need to use URL blocking in your router to block the amazon URLs for updates before connecting the FireTV to your network. Then you will be able to use GeoHot's Towelroot to root it and disable the Amazon updater. You will want to look into SPMC (a modified version of XBMC with special patches for Android devices, etc.)
It general it is much better than ATV2......FLIRC works with Harmony remotes although I haven't got around to setting mine up yet.
All the necessary info is here on the forum. Just read through some of the the threads.
Since I don't wanna make a whole topic,here is something that makes Fire TV chug a little.
Try this expirimental WebGL thingy in Chrome for Android on Fire TV.
http://www.chromeexperiments.com/detail/eye-texture-raytracer/
It even makes my mouse controls lag a bit,but otherwise does a nice job considering how extreme the test is.
Edit:More things to look at on a Fire TV using Chrome or Opera browser.
http://www.threejs.org/
Thanks all. I'm going to get one. One question though, I was looking on eBay and found a bunch that were already rooted and had xbmc or spmc already installed. In the description they were saying "get them while you can as the new version is unrootable". Anyone think it's OK to buy from eBay or just go with Amazon?
Thanks,
Chevy
chevy2410 said:
Thanks all. I'm going to get one. One question though, I was looking on eBay and found a bunch that were already rooted and had xbmc or spmc already installed. In the description they were saying "get them while you can as the new version is unrootable". Anyone think it's OK to buy from eBay or just go with Amazon?
Thanks,
Chevy
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Is it cheaper/more expensive? Definitely get it from amazon. That way it is fully warrantied under your name if you have any problems they will help you. I got mine from Best Buy and it had the firmware 51.1.1.0_user_511069920.. It downloaded the next update automatically which is 51.1.1.0_user_511070220 (the last rootable firmware). I even clicked "check for updates" and it never pushed the un-rootable version.
I think they sent out a limited roll out of the unrootable firmware since the according to amazon this is the same version I have.
sorry cant post the link since im a new user search google for "amazon fire tv firmware" should be the first link
I would recommend to block the updates either on the router by blocking the amazon domains or using adb and disabling the apk which updates the ftv
chevy2410 said:
Thanks all. I'm going to get one. One question though, I was looking on eBay and found a bunch that were already rooted and had xbmc or spmc already installed. In the description they were saying "get them while you can as the new version is unrootable". Anyone think it's OK to buy from eBay or just go with Amazon?
Thanks,
Chevy
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Was in the same boat as you couple of weeks ago, had a ATV2 got a FTV for someone else and realized how much faster and better it was so I sold my ATV for $250, and bought a FTV for myself. On top of that I bought 2 more to install xbmc and sell
Anyways, the FTV runs wicked fast with XBMC, not sure what you saw but there is a pretty good video here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G23u1TtluE
I'd say just buy one from amazon, too bad they were just on sale for $84 a few days ago and staples even had them down as low as $65 after some coupon.
The rooting is simple and fast and to disable the updates is just 1 command you type in. I wouldn't pay more for a unit that's already rooted unless I didn't know wtf I was doing.
I would recommend to block the updates either on the router by blocking the amazon domains or using adb and disabling the apk which updates the ftv
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Do you know what the URL is for blocking the updates?
The rooting is simple and fast and to disable the updates is just 1 command you type in. I wouldn't pay more for a unit that's already rooted unless I didn't know wtf I was doing.
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I'm pretty handy at rooting and so forth. I've rooted my wife and myself android phones over the last few years so this should be pretty straight forward. I think I'll just get it through Amazon, just in case I need warranty or something.
Thanks,
Chevy
chevy2410 said:
Do you know what the URL is for blocking the updates?
I'm pretty handy at rooting and so forth. I've rooted my wife and myself android phones over the last few years so this should be pretty straight forward. I think I'll just get it through Amazon, just in case I need warranty or something.
Thanks,
Chevy
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There are instructions here, http://www.aftvnews.com/ for taking a new box and installing without getting updates and then blocking updates.
Thanks to everyone for all the info. I bought one from Amazon and should have it on Tuesday.
Chevy
Due to a shipping problem, I wound up receiving two Fire TVs from Amazon. Customer service told me I could just keep the second one but later I found out it had been blacklisted. They also informed me that apparently once a device is blacklisted, it cannot be removed from the list. I'm not actually out anything (since I only ordered one to begin with), but I was curious if anyone knew if the device could be useful without a connection to Amazon, or will it forever just be a pretty black brick?
Thanks!
Can it run xbmc?
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Unless they are using some sort of efuse, the "cannot be removed" part is likely bull. I've never seen a blacklisted FTV - is there anything you can get to on it? Like can you get to the home screen, settings or perhaps even get to the recovery menu?
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Can it run xbmc?
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Unfortunately, it was never set up so I'm stuck at the very first registration option (after it checks for updates). It has an ip address but I can't connect to it with adb over the network (I'm assuming because the debugging stuff hasn't been enabled).
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Unless they are using some sort of efuse, the "cannot be removed" part is likely bull. I've never seen a blacklisted FTV - is there anything you can get to on it? Like can you get to the home screen, settings or perhaps even get to the recovery menu?
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I agree. It seems unlikely that they couldn't remove a device from the list. I think it was more of a tech support didn't feel like doing it and they knew they didn't have to, so they weren't going to bother.
I can't get to the home screen or settings but I can get to the recovery menu. Not sure where I would go from there though.
Perhaps block the update servers and everything Amazon on your router, then reset it to defaults via the recovery menu? I don't actually know what's in the recovery menu on the Fire TV though still I could be totally wrong here.
Ok, the "blacklisted" part is bull. The FireTV is not a phone. I wonder how they are going to block it. You can try to go through the registration. If it works, then they just mess with you. The worst part is they can block OTA update or don't allow you to use Amazon service, but you don't really need it. If you follow all the guides, you can use Netflix, XBMC and ton of other streaming services to substitute for Amazon. Or if you are generous and live in the US, you can send me that FireTV, I am willing to pay for shipping cost. I want to mess with a "blacklisted" FireTV to see how it is like. PM me
If it was never set up and stuck at the registration screen then you can't get past that and there is nothing you can do. No one has ever found a way to bypass the registration screen.
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Ok, the "blacklisted" part is bull. The FireTV is not a phone. I wonder how they are going to block it. You can try to go through the registration. If it works, then they just mess with you. The worst part is they can block OTA update or don't allow you to use Amazon service, but you don't really need it. If you follow all the guides, you can use Netflix, XBMC and ton of other streaming services to substitute for Amazon. Or if you are generous and live in the US, you can send me that FireTV, I am willing to pay for shipping cost. I want to mess with a "blacklisted" FireTV to see how it is like. PM me
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I think I'll hang on to it for now, to play around with.
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If it was never set up and stuck at the registration screen then you can't get past that and there is nothing you can do. No one has ever found a way to bypass the registration screen.
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That's pretty much what I figured. Maybe someday something can be figured out. Thanks for the reply!
Are you good at soldering try an EMMC pinout mod.
Amazon can blacklist kindles ftv as well as they register the device serial number to your account etc. Block all server adress in your router and use some of the methods on ft news website to bypass registration process as the new method seems to be working. After that you can xbmc on it without a fault that's all its good for anyway
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Got a firetv stick myself and had some problems with the order but it finally showed up. I contacted amazon or a replacement and meanwhile the original showed up. but it is blacklisted. Can't get past the registration screen.
The replacement they sent me works fine but they sent me a refurbished one instead of a new one so I contacted them again and they are sending me a new one but the refurbished one is now blacklisted too.
Kind of sucks that we can't "own" our devices and amazon can blacklist it whenever they want to.
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Are you good at soldering try an EMMC pinout mod.
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I have done some PCB soldering on various other devices. I'll have to look into the EMMC stuff.
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Got a firetv stick myself and had some problems with the order but it finally showed up. I contacted amazon or a replacement and meanwhile the original showed up. but it is blacklisted. Can't get past the registration screen.
The replacement they sent me works fine but they sent me a refurbished one instead of a new one so I contacted them again and they are sending me a new one but the refurbished one is now blacklisted too.
Kind of sucks that we can't "own" our devices and amazon can blacklist it whenever they want to.
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That's basically what happened to me too (except with the AFTV box).
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... Kind of sucks that we can't "own" our devices and amazon can blacklist it whenever they want to.
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They're giving you replacements, you own the new one they send you. Morally, you should be destroying the old ones.
lnxpro said:
Got a firetv stick myself and had some problems with the order but it finally showed up. I contacted amazon or a replacement and meanwhile the original showed up. but it is blacklisted. Can't get past the registration screen.
The replacement they sent me works fine but they sent me a refurbished one instead of a new one so I contacted them again and they are sending me a new one but the refurbished one is now blacklisted too.
Kind of sucks that we can't "own" our devices and amazon can blacklist it whenever they want to.
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How do you know its refurbished and not new??
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How do you know its refurbished and not new??
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Because they sent me a stick only, in a small box, the size of the stick, and it says refurbished on the sticker.
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Because they sent me a stick only, in a small box, the size of the stick, and it says refurbished on the sticker.
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That's kind of ridiculous... Its barely been 2 weeks since the device launched and they churning out refurbished units already... Hope these dont have a high failure rate...
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That's kind of ridiculous... Its barely been 2 weeks since the device launched and they churning out refurbished units already... Hope these dont have a high failure rate...
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From my understanding, they have had these for a while and have had them dished out to multiple users for testing purposes. My guess is that one of those was returned for whatever reason, then they "certify" them and put them back in circulation as refurbished devices.
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From my understanding, they have had these for a while and have had them dished out to multiple users for testing purposes. My guess is that one of those was returned for whatever reason, then they "certify" them and put them back in circulation as refurbished devices.
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I dont think so... Reason being, the first people these devices are generally sent to is people of the major tech sites to review them and have their opinions ready so as soon as the launch goes live, the bloggers can post the reviews.
As far as the fire stick went, even after the device released on the 19th, there was not a single review... I think the first reviews popped up about a week ago, meaning they likely didn't send them out before hand. ..
But maybe your right... Who knows... Conspiracy theory...
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I dont think so... Reason being, the first people these devices are generally sent to is people of the major tech sites to review them and have their opinions ready so as soon as the launch goes live, the bloggers can post the reviews.
As far as the fire stick went, even after the device released on the 19th, there was not a single review... I think the first reviews popped up about a week ago, meaning they likely didn't send them out before hand. ..
But maybe your right... Who knows... Conspiracy theory...
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Maybe they don't have retail boxes for only the stick. So for replacement devices they grabbed a "refurbished" box and shipped it in that.
Anyone gotten any progress on this?
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What are the chances of getting an Android TV ROM put on the FireTV? Is the partial bootloader unlock that's out there enough to do this?
I'm curious what would happen if the Android TV Launcher was sideloaded on the FireTV? I doubt it would be that easy, but I know it's been possible to get Google Play Store working and linked to your account and the ability to show all apps.
Maybe someone with a little more knowledge can expand on this and what else would have to be packaged together for the TV Launcher to work properly.
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I'm curious what would happen if the Android TV Launcher was sideloaded on the FireTV? I doubt it would be that easy, but I know it's been possible to get Google Play Store working and linked to your account and the ability to show all apps.
Maybe someone with a little more knowledge can expand on this and what else would have to be packaged together for the TV Launcher to work properly.
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My guess is it won't work because it requires lollipop stuff. I am currently working on a lollipop build. I have some time off work so maybe I'll be able to make some progress on it.
Android TV Launcher available (4.4 +):
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.leanbacklauncher
Someone to test ?
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Android TV Launcher available (4.4 +):
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.leanbacklauncher
Someone to test ?
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Well the stock Amazon OS is 4.2.2... so...
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Well the stock Amazon OS is 4.2.2... so...
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Very stupide, I was sure it was 4.4. Sorry
rbox said:
Well the stock Amazon OS is 4.2.2... so...
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Give it a few weeks, I'm sure the AFTV will be updated to Kitkat at least.
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Give it a few weeks, I'm sure the AFTV will be updated to Kitkat at least.
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I highly doubt that. The kernel that Amazon is using does not have a kitkat branch. Plus they really have no reason to do that.
CM12...
Awesome!! Looking forward to trying it out!
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CM12...
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Nice... Glad I got all my FTV's with partial unlocked bootloader, latest CWM & BootMenu ready to go....
rbox said:
CM12...
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will you still be making the prerooted stock roms?
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CM12...
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This is awesome!
I'd love to know how successful we expect this to be? Not trying to push or anything, of course, but I'm very curious if we have audio and video acceleration working yet? Having seen this I think I'll pick up another Fire TV, but not sure where best to buy, to have best chance of rooting it? Staples or Amazon?
I've currently got an Amazon Fire TV with your kernel boot menu installed, and would be happy to play about with some CM12 builds if it is helpful to have another users perspective. If the network does not work I have an Android compatible USB ethernet adaptor, and also wifi adaptor.
Thanks!!
hearnia_2K said:
This is awesome!
I'd love to know how successful we expect this to be? Not trying to push or anything, of course, but I'm very curious if we have audio and video acceleration working yet? Having seen this I think I'll pick up another Fire TV, but not sure where best to buy, to have best chance of rooting it? Staples or Amazon?
I've currently got an Amazon Fire TV with your kernel boot menu installed, and would be happy to play about with some CM12 builds if it is helpful to have another users perspective. If the network does not work I have an Android compatible USB ethernet adaptor, and also wifi adaptor.
Thanks!!
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Amazon has been the best place to get rootable FTV's. Staples & BB are still sending a high number of rootable FTV's as long as folks follow AFTVNews.com guides on how to Root them without updating them.
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pbanj said:
will you still be making the prerooted stock roms?
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He will probably still be making them. It just happens that the latest FW update isn't much of an update Features wise. So no rush for an update. Plus Amazon is getting trickier with the FW too. So patience is a virtue..
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He will probably still be making them. It just happens that the latest FW update isn't much of an update Features wise. So no rush for an update. Plus Amazon is getting trickier with the FW too. So patience is a virtue..
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oh im patient i just wanted to know if he was stopping the prerooted ones or not. i wasnt asking for an eta or anything. i just know some devs stop one project when they move onto another
As for CM12, it is very far from something flashable. All I have right now is the boot animation and the "updating packages" dialog. Currently my main problem is that none of the required services are starting, so I have to start them manually. Even doing that, I think I'm not starting everything that is required because as it starts loading up things, it dies because storage isn't set up properly, and bypassing that it kinda just hangs starting some android services. I'll have to enable some debug in init tomorrow to see what's going on with that.
As for prerooted, I'll still be making those. To be honest, CM12 is just a fun experiment for me. I probably won't be using it much because I watch a lot of Amazon Prime, and Android TV currently doesn't support it. I didn't really hear anyone saying anything earth shattering is contained in the newest update, and I really need to spend some extra time on it to figure out what's wrong with SuperSU, so that's why I haven't released a new one yet.
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As for CM12, it is very far from something flashable. All I have right now is the boot animation and the "updating packages" dialog. Currently my main problem is that none of the required services are starting, so I have to start them manually. Even doing that, I think I'm not starting everything that is required because as it starts loading up things, it dies because storage isn't set up properly, and bypassing that it kinda just hangs starting some android services. I'll have to enable some debug in init tomorrow to see what's going on with that.
As for prerooted, I'll still be making those. To be honest, CM12 is just a fun experiment for me. I probably won't be using it much because I watch a lot of Amazon Prime, and Android TV currently doesn't support it. I didn't really hear anyone saying anything earth shattering is contained in the newest update, and I really need to spend some extra time on it to figure out what's wrong with SuperSU, so that's why I haven't released a new one yet.
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That's awesome. If you can pull off CyanogenMod, it'll be epic! I know it's super early in the process, but forgive me, you got me all giddy and I couldn't hold back.
Y314K said:
Amazon has been the best place to get rootable FTV's. Staples & BB are still sending a high number of rootable FTV's as long as folks follow AFTVNews.com guides on how to Root them without updating them.
Thanks for the info - I did not realize it was still so likely to be rootable, so was unsure on buying a second.
Happy to say, I picked one up just now from Staples for $71.18 after tax in Duluth, GA. Rootable. Got that price by using a 15% off coupon, which was on their own website: http://www.staples.com/coupons
Great price, and rootable device!
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hearnia_2K said:
Y314K said:
Amazon has been the best place to get rootable FTV's. Staples & BB are still sending a high number of rootable FTV's as long as folks follow AFTVNews.com guides on how to Root them without updating them.
Thanks for the info - I did not realize it was still so likely to be rootable, so was unsure on buying a second.
Happy to say, I picked one up just now from Staples for $71.18 after tax in Duluth, GA. Rootable. Got that price by using a 15% off coupon, which was on their own website: http://www.staples.com/coupons
Great price, and rootable device!
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Nice.. I've gotten all my Rooted FTV's thru Staples site since Staples can really make things an awesome deal with their coupons...
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So I've gotten A LOT farther than I expected. I thought the kernel would have been a much bigger issue than it turned out to be. Anyway, right now I can get to the stock launcher and it looks like SystemUI is doing a crazy crash loop, so eventually the thing just dies. I'm going to try to get the Android TV launcher worker though. Then deal with SystemUI.
EDIT: Well I got the Android TV launcher starting... not sure what's supposed to happen with it though...
I had pretty much given up hope that i'd find anymore rooted units about a month ago until today when I walked into a store and bought 3. Is there still a supply of these rootable fire tv's?
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I had pretty much given up hope that i'd find anymore rooted units about a month ago until today when I walked into a store and bought 3. Is there still a supply of these rootable fire tv's?
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you could get them on ebay. the key is to ask what is the serial. Its hard but a few give the serial and with that you can find out if its rootable. Did you find a few or are you still looking for it. If you did buy three. would you sell any one of them for the community?
Picked up one at staples from 7/14 so I can root it. Tech guy was nice enough to find one for me after bringing out a few from 3/15 so they're still out there. just have to sort through there inventory.
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Picked up one at staples from 7/14 so I can root it. Tech guy was nice enough to find one for me after bringing out a few from 3/15 so they're still out there. just have to sort through there inventory.
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After making this post I have received 3 more rooted units in the mail today from staples. I am beginning to wonder if they stopped making these...
I've actually picked up 7 in the last 3 weeks all at staples....they still keep getting them in.
Most of them are 51.1.0.1 even...I think it'll still be a while you can easily pick these up. I have literally put forth no more than 5% effort in finding these
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I've actually picked up 7 in the last 3 weeks all at staples....they still keep getting them in.
Most of them are 51.1.0.1 even...I think it'll still be a while you can easily pick these up. I have literally put forth no more than 5% effort in finding these
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I actually ordered like four a week ago and they were all unrootable so I basically gave up hope at that point but now seems like they are back.
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I actually ordered like four a week ago and they were all unrootable so I basically gave up hope at that point but now seems like they are back.
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There's your problem...you need to actually pick yourself up and walk into a store to get them
Seriously, what "normal" people think of going to a staples to buy something like a fire tv? That's why there are so many rootable units on the shelves there
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There's your problem...you need to actually pick yourself up and walk into a store to get them
Seriously, what "normal" people think of going to a staples to buy something like a fire tv? That's why there are so many rootable units on the shelves there
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Actually I've honestly had better luck ordering from staples than going into one. The one time I did the manager actually told me without me asking these were not the rootable ones. Lol mabye it's just where I live.
Must be lol, although I've picked them up all over "congested" areas in Indiana ( I drive a lot for work ).
:shrug: who knows with these things i guess
I have a rooted unot and considering to update to the newest firware. Any benefits to keep it rooted? All I do is xbmc and amazon prime videos.
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I have a rooted unot and considering to update to the newest firware. Any benefits to keep it rooted? All I do is xbmc and amazon prime videos.
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I like the ability of having a custom rom that is around the corner. The absolute imperative for me is SNES EMU and the Sega Masger System EMU that are charged on google play. and the Quicksupport teamviewer that only works on root for desktop sharing. I can always debug/tweak and help my friends/parents fix their firetv's. Rooted for me is very important.
Sucks living in Australia..
I wanna get another rootable Fire TV for my dad but I can only order online so my chances are slim.
I need a friend living in the States.
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Sucks living in Australia..
I wanna get another rootable Fire TV for my dad but I can only order online so my chances are slim.
I need a friend living in the States.
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If you pay for shipping. I can help you. I'm in Los Angeles. Send me a PM. There is a seller on ebay that may have rooted ones brand new but I suggest you message the person directly. I've purchased one for myself and once it arrives I can confirm what version it is. If you need I can stop by at bestbuy to see if they have rootable ones but chances are slim. just trying to help out.
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Hi,
Thank you for your interest in this item. The batch number is 305.
Sincerely,
Barbara
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here is all the amazon fire tv ROOTED.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amazon-Fire-Tv-Digital-HD-Media-Streamer-CAN-BE-ROOTED-INSTALL-XBMC-SEALED-NEW-/141554629836?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20f5503ccc
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here is all the amazon fire tv ROOTED.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amazon-Fire-Tv-Digital-HD-Media-Streamer-CAN-BE-ROOTED-INSTALL-XBMC-SEALED-NEW-/141554629836?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20f5503ccc
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It's a tad expensive, but I suggest buying them from the seller auction_discount. I've bought two of them, and he did a great job rooting them. He sets up XBMC, Stick Mount, Busybox, and other essential apps.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121570606665
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It's a tad expensive, but I suggest buying them from the seller auction_discount. I've bought two of them, and he did a great job rooting them. He sets up XBMC, Stick Mount, Busybox, and other essential apps.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121570606665
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Id rather pay slightly more to get a rootable sealed one vs someone else doing it for me. I just got one from the person in the link above.
The earlier link that I had purchased was a bad one as it seems someone had updated the firmware and repackaged it. The box came opened with plastic.
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Id rather pay slightly more to get a rootable sealed one vs someone else doing it for me. I just got one from the person in the link above.
The earlier link that I had purchased was a bad one as it seems someone had updated the firmware and repackaged it. The box came opened with plastic.
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ah, I agree. I'd rather have one that was rootable as well. I made the mistake of ordering one off of amazon, and it the software was way too new. I returned it and set out for another AFTV. I don't why I didn't pick up a rootable one instead of one that was already rooted.
Yesterday I went into the Navy Exchange on the base I work at, and saw they finally put out AFTV's. I whipped out my phone and checked all of the serial numbers on the ones on the shelf. BOOM! ALL of them were rootable. I picked up three of them right away. I'll probably go back and buy more soon. They all come with 51.1.0.1_user_510055620.
esxps said:
I have a rooted unot and considering to update to the newest firware. Any benefits to keep it rooted? All I do is xbmc and amazon prime videos.
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I'm in the same boat right now. It seems like the new updates are providing much of the same experience that rooted boxes originally had. Besides sixaxis and rbox's xposed module, I really don't utilize any of the advantages of a rooted unit over a stock one..
I'd just hate to kill a rooted box. It'd be like shooting a black rhino.
spyder3 said:
I'm in the same boat right now. It seems like the new updates are providing much of the same experience that rooted boxes originally had. Besides sixaxis and rbox's xposed module, I really don't utilize any of the advantages of a rooted unit over a stock one..
I'd just hate to kill a rooted box. It'd be like shooting a black rhino.
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I thought rbox released the latest firmware pre-rooted?
spyder3 said:
I'm in the same boat right now. It seems like the new updates are providing much of the same experience that rooted boxes originally had. Besides sixaxis and rbox's xposed module, I really don't utilize any of the advantages of a rooted unit over a stock one..
I'd just hate to kill a rooted box. It'd be like shooting a black rhino.
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There are fundamental benefits to rooting and rBox has the latest one rooted. Its really simple to keep up with the rooted versions specially when you have the boot menu with recovery installed. For starters the latest version still does not allow ntfs mounts on usb. Then again remote quick support needs root for screen sharing remote as that is imperative if you build boxes for family and friends and if they need any software help.
I always land up helping my parents remotely. I have two sessions connected through teamviewer. one to the firetv and one on the pc and I'm golden. All tweaks updates and fixes work perfectly. except rom/firmware updates.
I just received a brand new Stick a couple days ago and successfully installed Kodi and a VPN. But, I am now interested in messing around with some custom ROMs and at the very least block further Amazon updates. I can't find any solid yes or no answers as to whether this is possible. Could someone point me in the right direction? I am fairly familiar with rooting Android phones and using recovery and custom roms. Fire is new to me.
Thanks!
Edit: I now realize that I probably should have just bought a Gen 1 Stick, but I didn't know that Amazon was actively fighting off modders. I have faith that the Android community will come up with a solution.. if they haven't already.
I blocked updates on my 5.2.4 fire tv successfully with the debloater tool. I am also waiting for a root method.
pwnt422 said:
I blocked updates on my 5.2.4 fire tv successfully with the debloater tool. I am also waiting for a root method.
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On 2 gen stick?
I have a fire Tv 2.
Im also searching...
Is there a method to downgrade to a rootable version?
Endoflow said:
Is there a method to downgrade to a rootable version?
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You can not
It seems that there isn't one person who works on finding a root for the fire tv. Is it that they wait for a vulnerability to be found in the Android OS itself before a root is available? I'm just wondering this because of the type of ways people have rooted them in the past. Anyone know?
Looks like my hope lies with zeroepoch and rbox.
pwnt422 said:
I blocked updates on my 5.2.4 fire tv successfully with the debloater tool. I am also waiting for a root method.
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Where can I find debloater tool for fire tv 2?
There is a prerooted 5.2.4.1 rom available.
Is there no way to install a xustom recovery and load that? Lile with many devices (im looking at you samsung) you have to install twrp and then boot straight to rexovery and flash a rom or your supersu.
Is that not possible with this? I am or else someone would have said it but I have to ask.
Edit. Excuse me.
How do you plan on doubling your money? Selling fully loaded boxes and sticks is illegal and Kodi is pretty much dead.
Illigal? You a lawyer? Is that legal advise? I think its perfectly legal. They literally have dozens of sellers on amazon, ebay, etc. (Not trying to come off smartass, I just dont want any trouble)
And even besides all that, everything I own that has a root folder has access to it. I have a touch of ocd maybe, but I just really want to be able to use a device I paid for to its fullest extent. Since they advertise the specs to their fullest when deciding on a sale price.
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I'm just saying be very careful. I've had the FBI at my door and it's not fun. I believe Amazon and eBay are taking down "fully loaded" boxes. I thought your post mentioned selling them. I'm not trying to be an ass just be careful.
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whodisname said:
There is a prerooted 5.2.4.1 rom available.
Is there no way to install a xustom recovery and load that? Lile with many devices (im looking at you samsung) you have to install twrp and then boot straight to rexovery and flash a rom or your supersu.
Is that not possible with this? I am or else someone would have said it but I have to ask.
Edit. Excuse me.
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whodisname said:
Illigal? You a lawyer? Is that legal advise? I think its perfectly legal. They literally have dozens of sellers on amazon, ebay, etc. (Not trying to come off smartass, I just dont want any trouble)
And even besides all that, everything I own that has a root folder has access to it. I have a touch of ocd maybe, but I just really want to be able to use a device I paid for to its fullest extent. Since they advertise the specs to their fullest when decuding on a sale price.
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Yeah. I had forgotten my manners for a moment. The internet is huge, ya know sometimes I forget which spot I am. I am simply trying to enable all the features of this thing. I use it to replace cable, a few (less than $10 usually) monthly subscriptions to alternate channels can save a ton of money over conventional cable. This is all I was saying.
Is there no way to get into fastboot by using possibly a factory cable? I have one of those that I used for my kindle fires.
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