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Feedback of Android 2.0.1 on Fuze

Hi installed Android 2.0.1 on my Fuze
Issues Found
- Consumes 4 times battery than windows
- When we put screen off, the round bottom light keeps blinking(Same as when we charge in windows)
- No option to switch off
- No option to go back or close a window from touch screen
- After some hours phone hangs up you need to remove battery to restart windows.
Pros
- Amazing graphics
- Very fast as compared to windows 6.1
Question
- Now to remove this should I just the android related files from Sd card, nothing needs to be removed from phone memory am I right ?
But I wish I could install a better working version of Android on my Fuze because despite of all bugs I am loving it

gaurav12 said:
Hi installed Android 2.0.1 on my Fuze
Issues Found
- Consumes 4 times battery than windows
- When we put screen off, the round bottom light keeps blinking(Same as when we charge in windows)
- No option to switch off
- No option to go back or close a window from touch screen
- After some hours phone hangs up you need to remove battery to restart windows.
Pros
- Amazing graphics
- Very fast as compared to windows 6.1
Question
- Now to remove this should I just the android related files from Sd card, nothing needs to be removed from phone memory am I right ?
But I wish I could install a better working version of Android on my Fuze because despite of all bugs I am loving it
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Well of course this has many bugs cuz this is not a native android device, also u should credit the develepors for their hard work this isnt really easy at all, also over the past months it has been improving greatly, and since u want to remove android from ur phone unfortunatley, all u must do is remove the android realated files like haret or android apps.

gaurav12 said:
Hi installed Android 2.0.1 on my Fuze
Issues Found
- Consumes 4 times battery than windows
- When we put screen off, the round bottom light keeps blinking(Same as when we charge in windows)
- No option to switch off
- No option to go back or close a window from touch screen
- After some hours phone hangs up you need to remove battery to restart windows.
Pros
- Amazing graphics
- Very fast as compared to windows 6.1
Question
- Now to remove this should I just the android related files from Sd card, nothing needs to be removed from phone memory am I right ?
But I wish I could install a better working version of Android on my Fuze because despite of all bugs I am loving it
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- People get 15 hours + of battery, so considering that it is a work in progress, that's very good.
- The light is a debugging thing, it means that your phone is in deep sleep (that's good) it's a LED light and barely makes any difference on battery life and you CAN turn it off if you want to, read the main thread.
- No, no such option for now, but as i said it's a work in progress for now.
- That's not even related to the port, that's just how Android is.
- No need to remove the battery, you can just press the reset hole.
- Yes, just the files from the SD card, nothing is saved on the phone's memory.

Why don't you learn to read a thread before installing a non native OS onto a phone. All the points you brought up were or are bugs that are known. If you don't like it get it off your phone and be done with it. No need to start another thread only to rehash what is already known.

gaurav12 said:
Hi installed Android 2.0.1 on my Fuze
Issues Found
- Consumes 4 times battery than windows
- When we put screen off, the round bottom light keeps blinking(Same as when we charge in windows)
- No option to switch off
- No option to go back or close a window from touch screen
- After some hours phone hangs up you need to remove battery to restart windows.
Pros
- Amazing graphics
- Very fast as compared to windows 6.1
Question
- Now to remove this should I just the android related files from Sd card, nothing needs to be removed from phone memory am I right ?
But I wish I could install a better working version of Android on my Fuze because despite of all bugs I am loving it
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I am in the same boat with you. I just keep updating it. It used to be pretty good Battery and stuff but the newer updates just aren't as efficient. I'll keep updating mine untill I get the money to just buy the damn NEXUS ONE since now they have an AT&T version that supports 3G

The original threads warned that Android on your WinMo device is merely proof of concept and experiment and was in no way meant to replace WinMo as your full time operating system on your device. I think the developers have made fantastic strides in the performance of Android on the FUZE given that they have managed to put an OS on a device that does not support it with neither hardware or software. And maybe it's just me, but if you have the right ROM WinMo 6.1 can be pretty fast (I haven't had such luck with WinMo 6.5, but I like 6.1 anyway)

Android has worse battery life than WinMo. I tried both Android devices on Sprint and even Android 1.5 is a hog. My neighbor just purchased the latest Android device Verizon released on Thursday and he is complaining of charging at 3PM everyday.
I've read all the threads and come to release Android on our devices is merely experimental. If you think its going to work flawlessly then you're not that bright. If I really need an Android device then I'll buy one. In fact I may try the EVO under the 30 day trial just for fun. I am interested in 720p / HDMI video recording, video call and other new features.

For everyone reading this post you know this guy only joined to complain or discurruge people from using it. Member with only 1 post trying to review software that was neer made to run on a specific hardware. Only a idiot would consider his words useful. Basically all he did was complain so that he could ask a question and get people to answer him without searching.

[Q] WMO or Android?

i would like to post this thread to ask all the PRO here,
what would u pick if i ask you to just select one OS for ur Ralph?
WinMo?
Android 2.2?
i am seriously thinking to change it from WinMo.
what do you think?

myself will be switching perm to android on my raph very soon as progress has moved forward alot on it only a couple things like camera and battery life ..but from what i understand they may be close to working and fixed

meego for opengles v2
But seriously android.
but yeah seriously i dont know anyone whos tried android and wants to go back to slow crappy winmo.

I can totally agree on it!
From the early stage of kaiser android development, even with almost nothing working, it was still better then winmo. Now kaiser is working cometely and its way better then winmo.
Im not using my touch pro as a phone right now (primarilly because of battery life), but as soon as thats fixed its donating time again and switching to android on touch pro.
Does anyone know the progress on nand for touch pro (and could the same menu from kaiser be used for it to install?)?
Sent from my Full Android on Vogue using XDA App

As soon as Android is flashable - it's bye-bye WinMo for me...

Once camera is working and better battery management levels are obtainable on my touch pro, i won't be going back. I already love everything about android and the games and apps i've been using.
OH, and my whole data signal just stopping after some time for no reason, even though my sprint APN still shows and is checked.

how about run on system memory
anyone know the diff between running the android from memory or from the system memory, will we gain extra speed if we use the system to run?
and will that damage the winmo OS if so?
thanks in advance.
p.s. the launcher pro is expired and i want to install a new one but it will need me to remove/uninstall the previous one.
i try the "application manager" in "settting" but i can't select the "uninstall"
any expert can teach me how?
million thanks in advance.

It's not Ralph, it's Raph
But seriously, I prefer Android more. I use it daily and it rocks!

djdafreund said:
Once camera is working and better battery management levels are obtainable on my touch pro, i won't be going back. I already love everything about android and the games and apps i've been using.
OH, and my whole data signal just stopping after some time for no reason, even though my sprint APN still shows and is checked.
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Use viruscrazy's kernel regarding the battery management issue.

gm112 said:
Use viruscrazy's kernel regarding the battery management issue.
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Yeah, i've been highly following and testing viruscrazy's kernel, and it's awesome compared to stock, but he even mentioned you can't use his stuff along with the newest 2.2 (sept.16 release) since there are lot's of new differences that would cause problems. But until then, his stuff does make a huge difference in properly registering battery level's (within 10% tolerance on my touch pro at least, much better even on other devices.)

Bluetooth also needs some work. I'm not sure the FM radio works in Android.

i'm kinda noobie here..
Are all the application we can use in android can also be use in xdandroids?

mizu_ai said:
i'm kinda noobie here..
Are all the application we can use in android can also be use in xdandroids?
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Eh, for the most part... Not every app will work guaranteed tho. Just try it out, let us know how it works...
I don't get why you posted this question in this thread tho!

wow, i´m really excited to read this posts! i've had my raph for 2 days now and i am really happy with it already flashed winmo 6.5 but i'm really anxious to try out android

I have a question. I have a brand new never activated or used sealed touch pro that I'm thinking about opening and activating just so I can use android on it. But I wanna know is the phone going to have the same battery over heating and freezing issues if I'm using android as if when wm is used. Is those problems os related of phone hardware related?
if so I rather use android on the touch vogue if I'm going have the same over heating issues on the touch tiamond andtouch pro. Or just use wm on my yreo pro.

AL_CAPONE_X3 said:
I have a question. I have a brand new never activated or used sealed touch pro that I'm thinking about opening and activating just so I can use android on it. But I wanna know is the phone going to have the same battery over heating and freezing issues if I'm using android as if when wm is used. Is those problems os related of phone hardware related?
if so I rather use android on the touch vogue if I'm going have the same over heating issues on the touch tiamond andtouch pro. Or just use wm on my yreo pro.
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Vogue port is basically complete as I understand it. Can't guarantee you won't have issues on your TP. This devices port isn't quite done yet...

the statistical numbers are: winmo:21 vs android 46.
Well, have to say people came to this thread since they like android and use android daily, so the testing result may not be true. It should be more correct by making this survey on the first Fuze discussion site (let Fuze winmo users and android users vote together), just my $.02
For me, 1st Fuze is a phone, dialing effect, talking time and standby time are the most important things to me; 2nd it is an email receiver, web browser; 3rd it is a GPS; 4th, a toy that I can play (games or a brick I can throw )
Android has smoother touch feeling and nicer looking, but for the short battery life and no camera fixed, I will still using my winmo for now.

Windows mobile.
Android is still lacking.. touch screen issues, camera. Our devices dont have a compass. So none of the augmented reality programs will run on our phone.
Ive never been able to get the touch screen to work to my liking. Ive done the touch configuration literally 100s of times. The screen is still off when i touch it. (holding down an icon to move/delete can be very frustrating)
I use Android to play a few media apps (iheartradio) that we just dont have on WM. Other than that, I boot back to WM.

5 things you want to see on Bada!

Hey there!
NOTE- IF THIS THREAD WAS NOT MEANT TO BE HERE, YOU ARE FREE TO MOVE IT ANYWHERE OR DELETE IT!
This thread is for me to know what features you want on the next version of Bada?
Here is mine:
Support for Android Apps
Free Voice Navigation
Voice commands
Overclocking Mod
A Better keyboards which can be skinned!
Tell me what do you want to see!

omg "Support for Android Apps" this is an awesome idea! Will this be possible? would be nice to hear what the devs tinking about it.
it's only that apps thing bada 2.0 seems to have everything i want...

Android apps supporting and Overclocking Mod

Better keyboards which can be skinned and android apps supporting

More useful apps
A better sound in 5.1 mode (bada 2.0 is bad, 1.2 was perfect)
No lags
Music recognition (not aviable in 2.0 beta ??)
More modifications with themes (not only wallpaper, icons and color of buttons..)

>> Support for Android Apps
Well, Bada is Bada, Android is Android. Both technically different. This is going to be never hapenning. If you want Android applications, use Android. Even if someone writes an compatibilty-layer, it will never be as if you'd be using Android.
Mine:
* More features for camera and foto-editor
* Ability to re-use apps already installed on SD after full flash
* Less battery usage (though it improved with each Beta, currently doing nothing sucks about 19% on mine, which would be 5 days, 2 days with real-life usage, which is 1 day more compared to all my IPhone-using friends)
* SHP by default
* Java apps in main menu

And what will you do with all those ideas Mr. bangalorerohan ?
For now it's just moaning, and giving false hope.
I like joel's ideas, and I have to say that the purple color in menu is awful.
I think, that we simply don't need Android apps, and porting Dalvik to Bada won't be possible in near future.
There is however one thing that I would like to se: any VOIP app, and of course Skype would be the best.

Setialpha said:
Mine:
* More features for camera and foto-editor
* Ability to re-use apps already installed on SD after full flash
* Less battery usage (though it improved with each Beta, currently doing nothing sucks about 19% on mine, which would be 5 days, 2 days with real-life usage, which is 1 day more compared to all my IPhone-using friends)
* SHP by default
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i want this too

Qron said:
And what will you do with all those ideas Mr. bangalorerohan ?
For now it's just moaning, and giving false hope.
I like joel's ideas, and I have to say that the purple color in menu is awful.
I think, that we simply don't need Android apps, and porting Dalvik to Bada won't be possible in near future.
There is however one thing that I would like to se: any VOIP app, and of course Skype would be the best.
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Chief, I just wanted to know what users are expecting! Just as simple as that! Maybe some DEV will have a look at his and comeout with all such features! The android port to bada also started like this! Ya' Know!
And regrading the Android App suppourt! I, myself, am a Android and Bada user. So, I think Android's got apps which maybe helpful to Bada. FOr example,
Titanium Backup(an app) can be used to backup all the apps while FW upgrades
Root Explorer can be used to access system files
Many android games are too cool and addictive
You can edit many photos with many photo-editing apps and all! You See!

How has the Nougat update been for you?

I frequent the Samsung official forums and the feedback there is pretty bad. People blaming the Nougat update for all their woes, but when you ask them to try wiping cache, or worse yet, factor resetting (after using Smart Switch to backup their phone), they say it's not worth it and they'll just get a new, non-Samsung phone. Isn't that the same as resetting? At least with Smart Switch, you can back up what you have.
In any case, I myself have found little issues with both the main OTA to Nougat, and the recent point release. Over all, the phone has been running excellent for me, and battery life is the same as it was before, which is I can get a full day's use before having to re-charge (unless I'm playing a lot of The Walking Dead: No Man's Land). My only issue (which is a minor issue) is with switching between keyboards. There is no easy way to do it in the Language & Input section like there used to be. Some keyboards, like Swiftkey, can sense it's not the main app and then ask if you wish to switch by popping up a toast message with a set of radio buttons to select which keyboard you want to be the main one. Others, like G-Board, only seem to do that when you install it. Once installed, if you switch to another one (such as Swiftkey), G-Board doesn't seem to sense this if you select it in the Language & Input->Virtual Keyboards section nor from the Virtual Keyboards->Manage Keyboards section. There used to be a way to select the default keyboard under Marshmallow, but that is missing in Samsung's version of Nougat. I have to go to the Manage Keyboards section and keep the keyboard I want to switch to enabled, and disable all the other keyboards. Then it will switch. But that's not a major issue for me.
How has it been for you? I don't seem to see as many negative responses here as I do in the Samsung forums. Probably because those that post there are the ones that are having issues, but those like myself, don't.

I don't recall having any issues with mine. I use the Swype keyboard but I haven't needed to, or felt the need to, switch keyboards. In all it seems very similar to MM but with a bit more polish.

Fantastic here

I've had no issues. My phone is not rooted and I disable bloatware in the app manager for what I can and with package disabler pro for what I can't. Battery life is good, phone is nice and smooth, no crashes or reboots or anything like that. I like the touchwiz skin, but I do use nova launcher, textra SMS, swiftkey keyboard, and google apps for the rest. So the only samsung stuff I use is contacts and dialer.

For me battery life is much better on marshmallow, specially APL2. Other than battery life, everything is better in Nougat.

Amazing on all fronts for me, even battery life sense I use force doze (yes without root) also helps that I am running jrkruse'd TMobile verizon hybrid rom

I just DID the update to a VZW S7 (via Odin and updato.com) using the April update; I'll be applying the June update when I get to full charge. The April update is performing swimmingly - I have zero reason to expect the June update to be worse. (Both are proper V-updates.)

So which is better with a Rockchip PX5 A53 octa-core, Android 8.0 or 6.0?

Even after reading the mega-threads on the two setups it's hard to decide which is the better way to go, if you have the choice. You can see the new PX5 octa-core units running either 8.0 or 6.0, so which to buy? The issues I see from the posts include:
- 8.0 hasn't been fully rooted, and rooting might be turn out to be difficult
- while 8.0 looks somewhat "fresh" with the not quite so fresh anymore tile styling, it has that ugly sidebar, which will require rooting to get rid of
- it seems to be hard to autorun apps on 8.0, so you can't just start up into a custom launcher
- does 8.0 really have less problems interfacing with hardware? With the variety of WiFi, Bluetooth, volume control, microphone etc. problems described in these threads, is the old establish 6.0 better at handling them, or does it lack drivers for newer versions of things like CAN bus interfaces or Torque BT adaptors?
- seems you need 8.0 for 4GB ram, does that make 8.0 worth it on its own?
It seems an even split for which version manufacturers are putting on these units. And it seems an equal number of people with 6.0 want to upgrade to 8.0 as people with 8.0 who want to downgrade to 6.0.
So to a new buyer, would you say get 8.0 or 6.0? I don't think there are many PX5's with 7.1 for some reason, which is why I left that out.
Thanks!

I thought there would be lots of people with views on this - no strong opinions? I thought this would be the first thing to consider when choosing a unit...no?

Same questions here as well.

I've a Dasaita px5 2gb 6.0 and now, about a month I've upgraded to malaysk 8.0 rom.
So, talking about 8.0:
-Fully rooted, everything works perfectly with supersu in 8.0 too
- Google maps works with 8.0, with 6.0 it doesn't
-Smooth performance even with 2gb ram.
-Spotify doesn't pop up
-Working custom launchers
-Working torque
-Autostart working with malaysk rom
-CANBUS working normally
-Bluetooth quality a2dp better than 6.0 (sd-968 module)
Problems with 8.0:
-some users that use md725 Bluetooth module related that is not working due to missing drivers, but a few users says it's working.
-apps force close when you do fast boot. It's difficult to decompile mtcmanager.apk and write the whitelist to keep apps in memory.
-Google contacts not syncing properly to work with voice command. There are some methods at xda to try to use mtcdialer, but it's not working for everyone. You can use manually touching the contact, but not working properly for voice command.
-EQ is working, but fader and balance not working for me (this issue I don't know if is happening with other users too)
In general, I think that Android 8.0 even with 2gb ram worth it.

Thanks megatm! Exactly the info that will help a lot of people who are trying to decide.
Much appreciated!