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How to smart charge the Galaxy Note 2 battery
The way you charge your device is very important and it can affect your battery life a lot. Charging it wrong will make it drain quickly and the battery will also last less, requiring a replacement after 1-2 years of use.
To smart charge the Galaxy Note 2, you have to only plug it in when the battery is below the 10% level and never unplug it until it is 100% charged.
You should also know that when your battery reaches 10%, it will last longer than usual. To understand better, it will drain much slower from 10% to 0% than from 20% to 10%. So don’t panic if your battery level is low, because it can hold for a very long time, especially in standby mode.
Never use low quality chargers, because they can damage your battery hand even the device. Only use original Galaxy Note 2 chargers and try not to use the USB cable for charging your device. Always charge it in the wall socket, because the USB port power fluctuates and can damage the battery. Also it will charge much slower.
Battery maintenance
Usually the battery is the first smartphone component that dies, having a lower lifecycle. Though you can prevent this by taking care of it.
The best way to prevent it from getting damaged is to avoid pulling it from its socket. The battery has some golden pins that can scratch or get dusty, so if you pull it out and back in multiple times you can damage the pins.
In order to help the battery work the way it should, always make sure to clean the pins with a soft cloth whenever you pull it out. This way you will keep dust away from them.
When buying a new Galaxy Note 2 battery, make sure to get an original one, as other might have a lower battery life and can have a shorter lifecycle.
Increase Galaxy Note battery life by disabling features
The Samsung Galaxy Note 2 N7100 comes with tons as features, like we just said at the beginning. But nearly all of them are big battery eaters and you need to be careful when activating them.
The CPU and display drain a lot of battery, so make sure to setup the display to turn off faster. Also don’t keep it turned on when you don’t need it.
3G and 4G are the biggest battery drainers on a smartphone. You should only keep the 3G or 4G network activated when you use the internet actively. If you really need a permanent internet connection, then go for 2G, though this eats your battery too. The best way is to only connect to the internet when you need it.
Do not keep the WiFi,Bluetooth and GPS activated when you don’t use them. They can drain your battery very fast even in idle mode, so make sure to disable them when you don’t need them anymore.
Live wallpapers are also big battery drainers. They consume a lot of CPU and RAM resources and also use your display more intensively. So you should never choose a live wallpaper. The most battery-friendly wallpaper is a dark one, which doesn’t use any CPU resources and also doesn’t requires the display to be very bright.
You also have to take care what apps you install and always look at Settings > battery to see who drains the most battery. There are some apps than run continuously and prevent your device from getting into “Deep Sleep.” This is the standby mode that helps the device conserve very much energy. If an app prevents it from getting into this mode, you will notice a very low battery life.
Please let us know if you found other ways to increase the Galaxy Note 2 battery life. We are also curious for how long did you manage to get your device running between charges.
wow thanks mate quite a good one!
Thanks!
Also you should add that if you always need to be connected to internet then its better to keep connected through WiFi as it consumes less energy than using EDGE or 3G.
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Thanks it's useful
What?
No.
1. Deep charge cycles on a lithium battery accelerate the failure of the battery.
2. The device can determine the type of source it's plugged into, computer usb ports are safe.
3. Non branded chargers are safe if they are quality made. You just need to stick with quality and 2 amp/ short cables for decent charge times.
Sorry man, but those 3 things you listed are some pretty big misinformation that can easily be verified.
There's nothing "smart" about doing a deep discharge if your trying to preserve a 10 dollar battery.
After installing the new rom..I charge my battery full..then remove battery stats then drain full to zero for cycle.after complete ..I use smart charge method..that is .when my cell battery below to 10 something like 9 or 8 then I connect charger .and really it helps me alot
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Smart charge method is kinda usefull
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What?
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1. Deep charge cycles on a lithium battery accelerate the failure of the battery.
2. The device can determine the type of source it's plugged into, computer usb ports are safe.
3. Non branded chargers are safe if they are quality made. You just need to stick with quality and 2 amp/ short cables for decent charge times.
Sorry man, but those 3 things you listed are some pretty big misinformation that can easily be verified.
There's nothing "smart" about doing a deep discharge if your trying to preserve a 10 dollar battery.
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Deep charge cycles are for avoid "memory effect" and It apply to old Ni-Cd / Ni-MH batteries. Don't apply for modern Li-Ion battery. There is much more chance that the deep drain affect negatively the battery of a GN2.
Li-Ion battery keep better performance if never going less than 50%. But the difference will be barely noticeable.
Personally, after several tests on my own, I don't bother anymore with that (I mean for the modern Li-Ion type). Sometime you have a great battery, sometime a crappy one from a bad batch. I have seen battery died fast after "by the book" charges cycles. And others seem to last forever, no matter how bad I maintained her (like my 2006's laptop).
Anyway, thanks for sharing, even if you are wrong on this one
I don't know if you're wrong or right because when you search the net about battery charging, you find everything and it's opposite. But I disagree on three points:
- The battery is beefy and you really have to work hard to make it last less than a day
- I bought this incredible phone because of it's features. If I have to cut half of them to avoid drain, why did I buy it?
- I dare say that most of the people who buy a Note 2 somewhere are a bit "Tech-Nuts". If you're not, I am, so I don't mind if my battery doesn't last two years because I'm not sure that I will still have this phone all that long.
And if I do and the battery is dead, I'll buy a new, genuine, Sammy one to continue.
What's it worth to live 100 years if you can't have a drink from time to time, maybe have a smoke or whatever? Plug your phone in or out and use your GNote 2 happy
Lol everything has its cost turn off everything to save battery what is fun in that I have a smartphone to use it and be happy with animations and display and games otherwise get a 3310 it is best
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How is everyone finding the battery life. Personally, I am finding it just plain horrible. I'm not sure what the issue is specifically but either something is draining it or it is just really that bad, in which case I will return it. I can't get a day's worth of moderate use out of it. It seems to be at most half of what I get from my note 10.1 and they aren't set up any differently. I've tried some of the basics like turning down the screen brightness (which annoys me), turning off the smart stay (but why have a feature you can't use), tweaking email checking settings, turning off samsung sync, turning off bluetooth (don't use it), and locations services. Is anyone else seeing this as an issue and does anyone have any additional suggestions for me to try?
Thanks in Advance
I get about two days between charges on mine. I get a decent amount of usage on a daily basis between email, Facebook, and candy crush. I even have Google Now running. How many charge cycles have you been through?
05GT said:
I get about two days between charges on mine. I get a decent amount of usage on a daily basis between email, Facebook, and candy crush. I even have Google Now running. How many charge cycles have you been through?
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If by charge cycles you mean fully discharging the phone until it shuts off, I haven't done that, but could give it a shot. It has gone down to 10% several times though.
No battery problems here. I wouldn't blame charge cycles, if they have any effect at all, it is minor. If I were you, I would do a factory reset, followed by an exchange if the reset doesn't fix it.
I have smart stay on , backlight on auto, and take no extra precautions for battery savings.
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How is everyone finding the battery life. Personally, I am finding it just plain horrible. I'm not sure what the issue is specifically but either something is draining it or it is just really that bad, in which case I will return it. I can't get a day's worth of moderate use out of it. It seems to be at most half of what I get from my note 10.1 and they aren't set up any differently. I've tried some of the basics like turning down the screen brightness (which annoys me), turning off the smart stay (but why have a feature you can't use), tweaking email checking settings, turning off samsung sync, turning off bluetooth (don't use it), and locations services. Is anyone else seeing this as an issue and does anyone have any additional suggestions for me to try?
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Can you please post some screen shots of your battery life at the end of a typical cycle? It will help with comparisons by giving us more details on your running apps, screen-on display times, etc. Also, what wakelocks do you have? Use BetterBatteryStats or Wakelock Detector from the Play store for that. This info might help us to identify just how much drain is related to rogue apps or the general battery life itself.
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Can you please post some screen shots of your battery life at the end of a typical cycle? It will help with comparisons by giving us more details on your running apps, screen-on display times, etc. Also, what wakelocks do you have? Use BetterBatteryStats or Wakelock Detector from the Play store for that. This info might help us to identify just how much drain is related to rogue apps or the general battery life itself.
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Thanks. Just downloaded BetterBatteryStatus. I'll let it run for a bit and see what comes up. I'll post what I came up with with screen shots from it. Thanks for pointing me in a direction.
Also, it'd help to know how many hours "just plain horrible" is.
I'm not delighted by the battery life I'm seeing, I'm finding I want to charge every night, and that I can easily consume 15% / hour or more even without the screen turned up past 20-25%. (watching video off the NAS in the house.)
Then again, this is the first LCD display I've been able to read in full sunlight, and that's remarkable to me. I often wind up with full sun in the morning when I get up, and am delighted that if I did charge overnight I can use the device even then.
The battery needs some initial "training".
Charge fully on the first and run it all the way down to nearly zero, and fully charge again.
DO NOT interrupt the initial charge.
Battery life is great here after 5 cycles running it to 1% and recharging full at first it was draining faster but now I can watch 4 hours of netflix and still have 25% left nice thing is that the battery charges superfast so no worries
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If by charge cycles you mean fully discharging the phone until it shuts off, I haven't done that, but could give it a shot. It has gone down to 10% several times though.
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10% is just fine, for purposes of calibrating the battery meter. Preferable actually. You shouldn't actually drain the device until shutdown. There are safeguards that are supposed to ensure the battery voltage does not drop too low (its not actually zero when the phone shuts down). However, in reality these safeguards are not always failsafe and I've seen plenty of cases on various Android devices where letting the battery drain to shutoff renders the battery unable to take a charge (below the minimum threshold voltage). Sometimes, letting the battery charge overnight will bring the battery back. Otherwise, you are pretty screwed, as the only remedy would be a battery meter with a boost function.
In any case, the battery meter is not very accurate, even under the best of circumstances, so letting it drain to 10% is plenty accurate enough. Then let it charge to 100%, and let it sit at full for a while, as fully saturating the battery takes extra time.
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That said, its hard to say what "moderate use" means. Everyone uses their devices differently. If you are playing intensive games, downloading files, heavy internet usage, it can drain the battery much faster than other activities. And the number of hours of screen-on time is key. So the idea of getting some battery stats and screenshots, is a good one.
I haven't been tracking screen-on time myself. But I find the battery to be decent. I use it a good amount in the evening (don't bring it to work) mostly for reading and web browsing. I have brightness on 40-50% usually (sometimes less, if the room is darker). The battery was just under 40% after 2 nights of use (maybe 40 hours after the last charge). Just guessing, but maybe 3 or 4 hours of screen on time?
Some online reviews mentioned the battery life is not as good as some other comparable devices (such as Nexus 7 and iPad Mini). Not surprising, since the Note 8 has a faster processor and higher resolution screen than either. And so far, battery life is not amazing, but seems comparable or better (better drain while idle) than my old HTC Flyer tablet. So for me, thats just fine.
I got about 4 hours screen-on time on my first battery cycle with heavy usage. Was playing games, movies, internet browsing, etc. My second and third cycles were better, giving me 5-6 hours screen-on time with moderate to heavy usage. Didn't really play any movies, but did play a fair amount of games and stuff.
On those later cycles my screen-on drain represented about 85% of my overall drain. This leads me to say that you can expect 4.5-6.5 hours of screen-on time with the Note 8, depending on usage. Keep in mind that I keep wifi always on, disabled bluetooth/auto-sync/smart stay, stopped some running apps like Maps and Factory Test, and kept brightness down to about 15% of the max setting.
Screen is definitely the big drain here, and these results lead me to believe that even with root and apps like Greenify I would not get much better results. Looks like any further battery savings will need to come from a custom kernel and custom rom (unless maybe you root and then underclock/undervolt using a third party app like Voltage Control or SetCpu). Anyone else have similar (or different ) results?
mingkee said:
The battery needs some initial "training".
Charge fully on the first and run it all the way down to nearly zero, and fully charge again.
DO NOT interrupt the initial charge.
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dumbest thing wrote in this thread probably. You do not need to train or do a full charge. How come people still believe that nonsense in 2013 ??
Bagbug said:
dumbest thing wrote in this thread probably. You do not need to train or do a full charge. How come people still believe that nonsense in 2013 ??
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:what:...XDA is for fun and for sharing; not for putting others down. Please be a little more respectful towards forum users when you post in the future. If you disagree with something then just explain so we can all learn together.
I am assuming the Note 8 has a lithium based battery. I couldn't confirm it though. The below link has some tips for how to care for different type of batteries. Useful reading.
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/tablets/how-and-when-to-charge-your-tablet-battery/814
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Although the battery life is of concern to me, the fact it charges via a micro USB input rather than propriatry cable alieviates that worry (looking at you Apple). I dont think I go anywhere where there isnt a charger available thanks to the amount of devices that use them.
Bagbug said:
dumbest thing wrote in this thread probably. You do not need to train or do a full charge. How come people still believe that nonsense in 2013 ??
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While his terminology might have been a bit clumsy, he is not completely incorrect.
The terminology of "training the battery" invokes the concepts of conditioning the old technology NiCad batteries to prevent memory effects, which are not a concern with Li ion batteries, which is what you seem to be referring to. Folks on XDA will often talk about conditioning or calibrating the battery, which can be a bit misleading (as often they have the behavior of the old NiCad batteries in mind when saying this).
However, it is true that the battery meter needs to be calibrated to be completely accurate. This calibration has no chemical effect on the battery itself (like it does with NiCad batteries) but simply effects how the current readings are displayed by the % battery meter on the device's screen. Without fully charging and draining the device, it doesn't have fully accurate "flags" associated the current to battery %.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/battery_calibration
Failure to calibrate the meter won't have a negative chemical effect, like failure to periodically condition a NiCad battery. And therefore it won't have an affect on the battery life. But properly calibrating will give you the most accurate % battery reading possible. The battery meter is not accurate out of the box, after a ROM flash, and an OTA may also reset the calibration.
As I've already mentioned in a previous response, I don't recommend draining the battery to shutoff. As doing so can lead to the battery no longer taking a charge, and the device no longer powering on. Its rare, but it does happen. Fully changing, then draining to 10% or so is enough. Full cycles are also not good for the long term life of the battery, although just doing it once every few months is still acceptable.
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kisrita said:
I am assuming the Note 8 has a lithium based battery. I couldn't confirm it though. The below link has some tips for how to care for different type of batteries. Useful reading.
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/tablets/how-and-when-to-charge-your-tablet-battery/814
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Pretty good link, thanks. And reinforces what I just said above.
Most any smartphone or tablet made in the past several years uses a Li ion battery. This confirms it: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_8_0_n5100-5252.php
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hertsjoatmon said:
Although the battery life is of concern to me, the fact it charges via a micro USB input rather than propriatry cable alieviates that worry (looking at you Apple). I dont think I go anywhere where there isnt a charger available thanks to the amount of devices that use them.
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The charger for the Note 8 is 2 Amps, while most MicroUSB chargers (at least for phones and other small devices) are 1 Amp. Although this varies, and there are other tablet chargers that are also 2 Amps; but these are far less common than phone charges that just about anyone with a phone that isn't Apple will have.
What this means is that the 1 Amp charger will charge the Note 8 very slowly. I tried mine on a 1 Amp charger just once so far. Left it on for maybe an hour, and the charge only increased by a few percent.
So yes, you can charge with most MicroUSB chargers in a pinch. But it will be slow.
hertsjoatmon said:
Although the battery life is of concern to me, the fact it charges via a micro USB input rather than propriatry cable alieviates that worry (looking at you Apple). I dont think I go anywhere where there isnt a charger available thanks to the amount of devices that use them.
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Don't get the physical plug of a charger confuse you - I believe this tablet needs a 2amp output from the charger, meaning just because your charger has the same end connection, it won't necessarily help you charge this battery. I've had my users come to me thinking their devices are defective because they somehow started charging their tablet with their Bluetooth headset charger.
Someone also mentioned the black wallpaper that might help with the battery consumption - I believe that is only helpful on AMOLED screens that Samsung has used on other devices.
I'm really still on the fence on keeping it after I bought this - I'm coming from a GT 7.7 which had excellent build quality,screen, and battery life. The loss of the AMOLED screen for both graphics and battery efficiency is bothering me. I put both up side by side and feel disappointed that Samsung couldn't just make a JB updated 7.7 with new CPU, 2GB RAM, and stylus with the same design and beautiful Super AMOLED Plus screen. It's not even the price - but just feeling like I'm getting a somewhat inferior device (in a few but important aspects) from the 7.7, when it's supposed to be an upgrade to the older device.
I've seen the news about an upgrade to the 7.7 possibly coming, but will it come with the stylus that is also important to me and the other software enhancements from the Note 8?
Bagbug said:
dumbest thing wrote in this thread probably. You do not need to train or do a full charge. How come people still believe that nonsense in 2013 ??
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Funny thing happened on mine.
The battery was VERY BAD the second day, but it could play live streaming for two hours when the battery was 1%. As soon as the tablet went off due to depleted battery, I charged it until it went all the way until the "full battery" came up.
After that, the battery is much better now, so don't say anything "dumb" or any nonsense because it works.
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Someone also mentioned the black wallpaper that might help with the battery consumption - I believe that is only helpful on AMOLED screens
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That is correct, having a black background does not effect battery life on LCD screens.
On AMOLED screens, black pixels are actually not emitting light (while pixels displaying other colors emit light), which is why a black background will cause less battery drain than other colors.
On an LCD, the liquid crystal layer that depicts the colors is not itself a source of light. Its lit from the back, and the light intensity of the backlight is the same regardless of what color is being displayed. How much light is blocked or let though by the liquid crystal layer varies depending on their alignment (what color is being displayed). But this doesn't affect how bright the backlight is, anymore than pulling a window blind makes the sun burn less hydrogen.
Speedy Gonzalez said:
Battery life is great here after 5 cycles running it to 1% and recharging full at first it was draining faster but now I can watch 4 hours of netflix and still have 25% left nice thing is that the battery charges superfast so no worries
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Only four hours? My Nexus 7 averages about 10.5 hours of Netflix with 10% left. I wonder how other note 8's compare?
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I am curious as to how is everyone's battery life been? I pulled my phone off the charger at 7:05 am and currently sitting at 73% at 9:06am.
is the screenshot for on screen time missing?
Is it me or is there no setting to automatically turn on battery saver mode when the device gets down to a certain percentage?? [emoji848]
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Strangely....the battery drained faster than it charged for me. Of course, that's an exaggeration, but Quick Charge on this phone isn't as fast as other phones.
I can say that using it while charging DEFINITELY affected the charging speed more than my last phone. It does not charge quickly while charging AT ALL.
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Strangely....the battery drained faster than it charged for me. Of course, that's an exaggeration, but Quick Charge on this phone isn't as fast as other phones.
I can say that using it while charging DEFINITELY affected the charging speed more than my last phone. It does not charge quickly while charging AT ALL.
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Using it while charging will destroy your battery anyways. Not a good idea
clninja said:
Using it while charging will destroy your battery anyways. Not a good idea
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I change phones too often to care.
my battery life has been pretty good considering the specs.
4 hrs of SOT easy. more like 5.5 some days.
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Using it while charging will destroy your battery anyways. Not a good idea
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Using your phone while it's charging does not destroy your battery. It may not charge as fast because you're obviously draining it at the same time, but it's perfectly fine to use the phone.
holz75 said:
Using your phone while it's charging does not destroy your battery. It may not charge as fast because you're obviously draining it at the same time, but it's perfectly fine to use the phone.
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charging and discharging at the same time causes heat, which does destroy the battery, unless you have a unit with something like oneplus dash charging that heats up at the wall instead of at the battery
WaxysDargle said:
charging and discharging at the same time causes heat, which does destroy the battery, unless you have a unit with something like oneplus dash charging that heats up at the wall instead of at the battery
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It's a MYTH. Do a simple Google Search. And if it did destroy the battery, we'd definitely be hearing of a battery shortage simply from everyone driving around using their phones for GPS while plugged in.
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It's a MYTH. Do a simple Google Search. And if it did destroy the battery, we'd definitely be hearing of a battery shortage simply from everyone driving around using their phones for GPS while plugged in.
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hmmm my search turned up mixed results. some people think it'll make your battery explode, and that has been debunked. it is still debated (from what i can see) if doing heavy tasks (like gaming) while charging will degrade battery.
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hmmm my search turned up mixed results. some people think it'll make your battery explode, and that has been debunked. it is still debated (from what i can see) if doing heavy tasks (like gaming) while charging will degrade battery.
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Your battery simply starts to degrade once you start draining and recharging. There's a difference between degrade and destroy. If it really destroyed our batteries, phone companies and cell phone carriers would be telling everyone to absolutely 100% do not use your phone while charging. That's just silly. How many times do you walk through an airport and see people sitting on the ground by an outlet, so they can charge and use their phone? Same with laptops. The batteries in cell phones now are so much better than they were before.
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Your battery simply starts to degrade once you start draining and recharging. There's a difference between degrade and destroy. If it really destroyed our batteries, phone companies and cell phone carriers would be telling everyone to absolutely 100% do not use your phone while charging. That's just silly. How many times do you walk through an airport and see people sitting on the ground by an outlet, so they can charge and use their phone? Same with laptops. The batteries in cell phones now are so much better than they were before.
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i'm with you on that. it appears to me that heavy discharging while charging could accelerate degradation. that's what is in question in my mind.
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Didn't want to make a new thread, but whenever we get a new phone are we suppose to full discharge it and then full charge it when we first use it?
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Didn't want to make a new thread, but whenever we get a new phone are we suppose to full discharge it and then full charge it when we first use it?
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That's an old "wise tale". I do it on every phone whether it is needed or not though. I actually do it twice. I take it to around 10% and back up to 100. I still fully charge it before I even use it. May be a waste, but for some reason, it gives me a certain "pleasure".
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Using your phone while it's charging does not destroy your battery. It may not charge as fast because you're obviously draining it at the same time, but it's perfectly fine to use the phone.
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I was going to redpond to his post as well. Using phone while charging in fact does nothing to the battery. That has been a long time myth disproven long time ago. You are correct, it does not harm the battery
taotechad said:
I was going to redpond to his post as well. Using phone while charging in fact does nothing to the battery. That has been a long time myth disproven long time ago. You are correct, it does not harm the battery
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Excessive heat destroys batteries. Charging creates heat. Using it while charging creates excessive heat.
Don't believe it and keep doing it if you want. Doesn't screw up anyones battery but yours so who cares
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Excessive heat destroys batteries. Charging creates heat. Using it while charging creates excessive heat.
Don't believe it and keep doing it if you want. Doesn't screw up anyones battery but yours so who cares
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Dont have any heat issues, let alone excessive heat issues at any time!! Maybe dont use cheap crappy chargers. This myth has long been disproven. But go ahead and believe the fake news
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Your battery simply starts to degrade once you start draining and recharging. There's a difference between degrade and destroy. If it really destroyed our batteries, phone companies and cell phone carriers would be telling everyone to absolutely 100% do not use your phone while charging. That's just silly. How many times do you walk through an airport and see people sitting on the ground by an outlet, so they can charge and use their phone? Same with laptops. The batteries in cell phones now are so much better than they were before.
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Hmmmm. We discuss 2 separate things here.
May you still use your phone when charging
Of course you may
Will it be charging as fast when its on and being used in contrast to being blocked?
Of course it will be charging very much slower
Those people in airports may either have very much cooler CPUs in their phones like MTKs, Snaps 660 or Apple A9s. They don't produce as much heat as SD820 or SD845 so shey can still keep battery cool and let it get charging., or they put their phones aside and let them get battery charged fast because its not charging as fast when being used. Like G7.
Using G7, especially gaming or watching Youtube on mobile cell produce too much heat and battery gets warm fast. So to prevent Note 7 style overheating and explosions both Samsung and LG makes speed of charging lowest in that case. Even that was stated by Samsung's advertisements when Galaxy S8 was introduced. You may search for them on Youtube. LG does the same, it become charging with 0.5A like form USB 2.0 port, lowest possible speed. It prevents battery from heating to avoid degrading and explosion. Turn screen off, put phone aside for half an hour and let it suck up juice
Hello. I bought my Mi 6 (Chinese ceramic model) in... January, I believed, maybe even February. The screen-on time from full charge used to be 12-13 hours with mostly web browsing and the occasional gaming. I guess it lowered somewhat throughout the first few months, but it was still quite high and usually over 10 hours. Now, Xiaomi released several OS updates in that time, and I suppose none improved battery life (even though I check user feedback before updating and occasionally that was a claimed improvement), but since the last update I think something went seriously wrong.
I'm not sure it became like this exactly after I updated to 10.0.1.0(OCAMIFH), which makes it even stranger, but currently my battery gives less than 3 hours screen-on time before shutting down. It also drains considerably when idle, possibly >10% over-night.
It doesn't seem right that the battery would age so quickly all of a sudden. The phone is less than a year old and the battery acts like it's 5. Is there anyone else who have it go this bad all of a sudden? Maybe something on my phone is spying on me and drains a ton of battery? Or perhaps the battery used in the Mi 6 is crap and loses capacity too quickly?
Thanks in advance.
TLxda-d said:
Hello. I bought my Mi 6 (Chinese ceramic model) in... January, I believed, maybe even February. The screen-on time from full charge used to be 12-13 hours with mostly web browsing and the occasional gaming. I guess it lowered somewhat throughout the first few months, but it was still quite high and usually over 10 hours. Now, Xiaomi released several OS updates in that time, and I suppose none improved battery life (even though I check user feedback before updating and occasionally that was a claimed improvement), but since the last update I think something went seriously wrong.
I'm not sure it became like this exactly after I updated to 10.0.1.0(OCAMIFH), which makes it even stranger, but currently my battery gives less than 3 hours screen-on time before shutting down. It also drains considerably when idle, possibly >10% over-night.
It doesn't seem right that the battery would age so quickly all of a sudden. The phone is less than a year old and the battery acts like it's 5. Is there anyone else who have it go this bad all of a sudden? Maybe something on my phone is spying on me and drains a ton of battery? Or perhaps the battery used in the Mi 6 is crap and loses capacity too quickly?
Thanks in advance.
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you should check what is draining your battery (you can find it in the settings) and i would advice to do a "factory reset" as maybe after the update an app got "crazy" or dose/doze? isn't being "used", also there is an option on the app's settings page where you can select what type of "optimization" the phone does to conserve battery atm i have mine set to "let miui choose the best"
Hi! Did you for any chance bought a miband? I ask this because both me and my girlfriend have mi6 and I use the mifit app. I get around 3 or 4 hours screen on time per day while she gets 6 or 7.
Either way, don't think you should expect the 10 hours to be normal.
xikz said:
Hi! Did you for any chance bought a miband? I ask this because both me and my girlfriend have mi6 and I use the mifit app. I get around 3 or 4 hours screen on time per day while she gets 6 or 7.
Either way, don't think you should expect the 10 hours to be normal.
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Nope, the phone isn't connected to any peripheral. I didn't think it should last 12+ hours (so even more than 10) for eternity, but to my understanding lithium ion batteries lose about 30% of their capacity after 1,000 recharging cycles, and I doubt I got even close to that in 10 months while my battery has supposedly already lost 50% or more than its original capacity.
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Nope, the phone isn't connected to any peripheral. I didn't think it should last 12+ hours (so even more than 10) for eternity, but to my understanding lithium ion batteries lose about 30% of their capacity after 1,000 recharging cycles, and I doubt I got even close to that in 10 months while my battery has supposedly already lost 50% or more than its original capacity.
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Just for the record: We don't have lithium ion batteries, we have lithium polymer batteries.
But the thing that matters is, lithium polymer batteries have less full charge/discharge lifetimes.
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xikz said:
Hi! Did you for any chance bought a miband? I ask this because both me and my girlfriend have mi6 and I use the mifit app. I get around 3 or 4 hours screen on time per day while she gets 6 or 7.
Either way, don't think you should expect the 10 hours to be normal.
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Btw I have a mi band 2 too and I just use mi fit app for basic connection, then everything else is handled by mi band tools app + root for better sleep as android integration. And it just doesn't drain my battery as yours do. I still have around 10 hours sot here, after 14 months of use.
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Just for the record: We don't have lithium ion batteries, we have lithium polymer batteries.
But the thing that matters is, lithium polymer batteries have less full charge/discharge lifetimes.
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Btw I have a mi band 2 too and I just use mi fit app for basic connection, then everything else is handled by mi band tools app + root for better sleep as android integration. And it just doesn't drain my battery as yours do.
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Oh I really want/need that ahaha I've been using this version of the app, I notice it doesn't drain as much battery, but still I almost never reach 4 hours of screen on time. Is there any tutorial where I can check how to configure mifit and mi band tools better or is it just a matter of having mi band tools installed?
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Is it this app?
@TLxda-d and my suggestion to you is making a clean installation/setup by factory resetting for example. To get rid of all these cache and also so called miui optimization sh¡t's cache too. Miui tends to be fuk'd up after a year or so.
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xikz said:
Oh I really want/need that ahaha I've been using this version of the app, I notice it doesn't drain as much battery, but still I almost never reach 4 hours of screen on time. Is there any tutorial where I can check how to configure mifit and mi band tools better or is it just a matter of having mi band tools installed?
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Is it this app?
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Yes that app. Just disable everything in mi fit and use the same and more functionality in mi band tools.
ccelik97 said:
Just for the record: We don't have lithium ion batteries, we have lithium polymer batteries.
But the thing that matters is, lithium polymer batteries have less full charge/discharge lifetimes.
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Btw I have a mi band 2 too and I just use mi fit app for basic connection, then everything else is handled by mi band tools app + root for better sleep as android integration. And it just doesn't drain my battery as yours do. I still have around 10 hours sot here, after 14 months of use.
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Are all phones using Lithium Polymer batteries?
And is it reasonable thus that my phone holds less than half the up-time now between charges?
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Are all phones using Lithium Polymer batteries?
And is it reasonable thus that my phone holds less than half the up-time now between charges?
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As I'm aware of this, yes all mi 6 phones have lithium polymer batteries.
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As I'm aware of this, yes all mi 6 phones have lithium polymer batteries.
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I meant smartphones in general, because I always hear "lithium ion".
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I meant smartphones in general, because I always hear "lithium ion".
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Lithium-ion and Lithium-polymer (mainly know as Lithium-polymer-ion) are identical, just their physical sizes change and some of their characteristics are a tiny bit different, nonetheless i get on my mi 6 like more then 10hours of battery life (browsing instagram, playing a few games here and there [somewhat high demanding], listening to music all the time) and i also charge mine from 67%~40%-25% and i have not seen any type of "degradation" on my battery, i would reccomend you to not charge it all the way to 100% (as a way to lessen the charge cycles, i mean even if you dont reach 100% the closer it gets to "full" the more strain you put into the battery, the same goes for reaching 0%) i would also advice you to do a factory reset, as usually it is an "app" that eats the entire battery life. ( sorry for my bad-ish english, hope i helped)
My mi6 is suffering from the same sh*t... Almost 2 years old. I was on miui eu for almost one year... Never updated...
Wanted to go back to something different.. tried RR OS 8.1 final and now Mokee 9.0 but they give me horrible battery life. I did a complete fresh install with erase data.. can't make it through one day. Maybe 2hrs SOT..[emoji26]
Last night it drained 11% within 7hrs in airplane mode [emoji848]
In settings it says: no data about battery usage ..
It really annoys me since i don't wanna miss the smoothness of that ROM...
Miui eu gave me Bluetooth problems with my car otherwise it was okay, especially battery wise...
Any suggestions?
Appreciate it!
Well, let's not transform this in a Lithium related topic.
The thing is I'm having the same problem as OP, and have seen many users in en.MIUI forum in the same situation. I'm now with latest global stable(V10.2.1.0.OCAMIXM), but even after that update i was on V10.0.1.0, never rooted, never unlocked bootloader, etc. I always had good battery life, even in v10.0.1.0. But one day, suddendly my phone started a huge battery drain.
No, it's not associated with any app installation, my usage routine didn't changed, everything was still the same as before, but a ramdom battery drain appeares, did u guys get it?
Just to record the gravity of the situation: overnight i lost 20%~35% of juice, this is ridiculous!
I though to myself: It must be a battery problem. Ordered a new original one and for my surprise the problem continues.
I don't now what to do, i don't want a custom rom not based on miui because i really like it. Is anyone using the latest miui.eu and have this battery drain?
So I've had my S20U for a while now (almost 3 months), yet today something odd happened. I called my gf with about 20% battery left, we talked for about 30 minutes, then I started using facebook while talkin to her (i was on my home wifi network not 4g) and after a bit it started to drain the battery VERY fast. When i mean fast, I mean i could see the % going down faster then 1% per minute, more like 1% every 30 sec. I decided to quit the call at 2% and few seconds after that the Samsung logo appeared and the phone totally went off, 0%.
Now I charged it back to 100% and after 2 hours of idle its at 98% which seems to be the usual drain while idle (1%) but what I'm wondering is... what the hell happened before? Have had every Galaxy out since S2 and i've never seen a battery drain like that before. I know when battery goes down very fast its usually a sign of a serious problem with battery, but this is a 3 months old phone... since i've had it i've never let it go below 15-20% since i know its bad to let it go that down and i usually start charging it at 20%, is it possible that maybe it was calibrated bad and thus it drained so fast?
Any other ideas? Thank you.
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- Are you using superfast charging? This will deteriorate the battery quicker.
- Never let the battery (if you can) drop below 20% & avoid charging above 85% , there is enough data available to show that charging between this 65% dynamic slows the battery wear cycle considerably.
- You called with 20% , while having WiFi on & scrolling Facebook (animations use GPU power , The display drains most the battery - WQHD by any chance?)
With the utmost respect this sounds normal particularly if you let the battery die & charge to full using 3amp power output
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=== Apologies I did not see you state that you don't let it drop below 20% ?? avoid charging above 85% , i use accubattery for this ===
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- Are you using superfast charging? This will deteriorate the battery quicker.
- Never let the battery (if you can) drop below 20% & avoid charging above 85% , there is enough data available to show that charging between this 65% dynamic slows the battery wear cycle considerably.
- You called with 20% , while having WiFi on & scrolling Facebook (animations use GPU power , The display drains most the battery - WQHD by any chance?)
With the utmost respect this sounds normal particularly if you let the battery die & charge to full using 3amp power output
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=== Apologies I did not see you state that you don't let it drop below 20% ? avoid charging above 85% , i use accubattery for this ===
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20% > 85% gives you 65% capacity, if the aim is to prevent battery wear, you've already just lost 35% anyway, defeats the point...
0>100% until the battery only holds 65% charge will give you way more life before you're stuck with 65% capacity, which would take years and years anyway
Not seen any data on super fast charging causing higher battery wear, I know its been a worry to people for a long time but no actual evidence, in fact I've read articles saying it does not.
Ok thanks for the replies but, let me make some points:
1 - S20U has a very fast charge for a reason. If it hurt the battery THAT bad, it would not be there. If Samsung put it there, it means they have done a lot of testing, and yes while I agree that after a year or so using it all the time you might stress the battery a bit more than with slow charge, for sure it doesnt happen after less than 3 months, and to the point of what i experienced.
2 - Again, whIile it is true that modern batteries are better kept between 20 and 80% (and its suggested when you, for example, decide to pull a battery out and keep it in a box), its also NOT true that not doing so will ruin your battery fast. I mean, your phone is made to be used, whats the point to charge it to only 80% and then have no power left during day when you're out and need it? Its just stupid. Everyone going out to work in the morning will charge it to 100%.
3 - Both 1 & 2 will help battery but thats something you'd see after a LONG TIME of using it, and the gain you see would be so little (probably about 10% ish over 20 months) that is really not even worth following those guidelines, its easier to replace the battery (or the phone, in my case, since I buy the newest model every year).
4 - What I experienced Is VERY different and for sure didnt happen for reason 1+2. And no, I always make calls while using Facebook and I've never seen the % go down that fast, like 1% every 30 sec like the other night. Something was draining the battery like I've never seen before in 9 years of Samsung Galaxy. And it happended below 20% so I'm not sure that has to do with it or not (in other words: if my phone was at 70%, would i still have had a drain so fast? who knows, maybe the problem was under 20% that was not calibrated right, but im not even sure this is possible, this is why i opened this topic).
5 - PS Most importantly: Ive never let it go below 15% since I've had it, and i probably charged it fast one time or two, i usually charge it wirless with slow recharge, so again, 1&2 makes even less sense in my case.
Ok update, it happened again. Was at 15% and i was on the phone while playing with facebook, after a while goes to 10% so i killed all tasks and shut down the screen and just talked on the phone, after less than a minute i turned screen on again to check % and was 1%. Went from 10% to 1% in about less than 60 seconds of screen off. Any idea what could be the problem?
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Ok update, it happened again. Was at 15% and i was on the phone while playing with facebook, after a while goes to 10% so i killed all tasks and shut down the screen and just talked on the phone, after less than a minute i turned screen on again to check % and was 1%. Went from 10% to 1% in about less than 60 seconds of screen off. Any idea what could be the problem?
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Although it could be a battery issue as advised above I'd firstly try a factory reset and install all apps as new.
If this doesn't work a call/visit to Samsung may be the best option.
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Although it could be a battery issue as advised above I'd firstly try a factory reset and install all apps as new.
If this doesn't work a call/visit to Samsung may be the best option.
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I was suggested to try using *#0228# anyone got experience about it?
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/sections/202397985-AccuBattery-Research-and-Methodology
Here's some research conducted by folk who can go beyond speculation
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Ok thanks for the replies but, let me make some points:
1 - S20U has a very fast charge for a reason. If it hurt the battery THAT bad, it would not be there. If Samsung put it there, it means they have done a lot of testing, and yes while I agree that after a year or so using it all the time you might stress the battery a bit more than with slow charge, for sure it doesnt happen after less than 3 months, and to the point of what i experienced.
2 - Again, whIile it is true that modern batteries are better kept between 20 and 80% (and its suggested when you, for example, decide to pull a battery out and keep it in a box), its also NOT true that not doing so will ruin your battery fast. I mean, your phone is made to be used, whats the point to charge it to only 80% and then have no power left during day when you're out and need it? Its just stupid. Everyone going out to work in the morning will charge it to 100%.
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If your battery was supposed to last forever then there'd be less financial return
Learn about procurement & future proofing from a business perspective
It amazes Me that people in 2020 think that conglomerate corporations entertain ethics
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/sections/202397985-AccuBattery-Research-and-Methodology
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An additional caveat is the fact that the note 4 was (I think) samsungs last flagship that allowed for removable batteries , hence so many folk still use the phone today.
This notion does not help Samsung ; sentiment to their moral stance , or lack of.
Business is business eh ??
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know.i.dee said:
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/sections/202397985-AccuBattery-Research-and-Methodology
Here's some research conducted by folk who can go beyond speculation
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If your battery was supposed to last forever then there'd be less financial return
Learn about procurement & future proofing from a business perspective
It amazes Me that people in 2020 think that conglomerate corporations entertain ethics
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/sections/202397985-AccuBattery-Research-and-Methodology
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An additional caveat is the fact that the note 4 was (I think) samsungs last flagship that allowed for removable batteries , hence so many folk still use the phone today.
This notion does not help Samsung ; sentiment to their moral stance , or lack of.
Business is business eh
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Sorry to say but your post does nothing to fix my problem (which is the reason why i started this thread) and only adds noise. Nobody said a battery is supposed to last forever. What we said is that you arent very smart if you buy a 1370 Euro phone and then charge it very slow all the time, keep it always between 20 and 80%, and never charge it to 100%, and all this to have the battery last a bit longer after 2 years. If you buy a 1370 Euro phone chances are that the next year you wont even have the same phone, and if you still have it after 2 years, 55 bucks for a new battery is nothing.
In other words, doing everything to preserve battery is just retarded, its a matter of cost vs gain, its just not worth. And telling people not tu use very fast charge because it will deteriorate battery quicker IS RETARDED, period. Because you assume that after a year the difference between a phone using always very fast charge, and using slow charge, is huge, meanwhile it isnt. The real problem with batteries is that they deteriorate over time no matter what. You could be super careful but still after 3 years your battery will be nowhere as good as it was when it was new, degrading it a bit with fast charge or charging to 100% makes very little difference in the big scheme of things. And people at accubattery are stupid, they tell us to stop charging the phone at 80%. Hello, I'm supposed to buy a 1370 Euro smartphone and leave home in the morning at 80% and be careful about what i do during the day because it could drain my battery and then go even below 20, or even totally run out since i started at 80%? Or maybe they think people buy a phone like that to use it while sittin their asses off on a chair playing on the pc and charging always between 20 and 80%? Come on, nosense at its best. You buy a phone to USE it. You buy an expensive smartphone to freaking use it as much as you can. Nobody at Apple tells iphone users "hey dont do this, dont do that, dont charge too many times, dont charge too little, bla bla".
PS if you're so worried about using the phone like you should do, dont install and save too much stuff in the internal memory, it'll wear out in the long run. hell, dont even use it too much, the screen itself isnt infinite.
I was on the 20%-80% bandwagon for a while, but just created more battery anxiety (hypervigilance about going below 20% and "overcharging" above 80%). I finally acknowledged that I never keep a phone long enough to see any real benefit of coddling the battery this way. Now I just use my phone how I want to use it, charge it when it needs to be charged, and don't obsess about long-term battery health. If I *do* keep a phone long enough to notice battery degradation, then I'll just replace the battery. The $100 or whatever it costs is worth not worrying about keeping the battery within some magical range.
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I was on the 20%-80% bandwagon for a while, but just created more battery anxiety (hypervigilance about going below 20% and "overcharging" above 80%). I finally acknowledged that I never keep a phone long enough to see any real benefit of coddling the battery this way. Now I just use my phone how I want to use it, charge it when it needs to be charged, and don't obsess about long-term battery health. If I *do* keep a phone long enough to notice battery degradation, then I'll just replace the battery. The $100 or whatever it costs is worth not worrying about keeping the battery within some magical range.
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?? I'm definitely not anxious , if my battery drains it drains , I'm just saying & simply posed a potential in an attempt to help , doesn't work for you or you don't like it don't entertain it
Maintenance is key to longevity +I'm not into phones like most people. If Swapping phones every frickin year is satiating then yeah go hell for leather , it's ip68 , you could take it in the shower too
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tharghan said:
. Nobody at Apple tells iphone users "hey dont do this, dont do that, dont charge too many times, dont charge too little, bla bla".
PS if you're so worried about using the phone like you should do, dont install and save too much stuff in the internal memory, it'll wear out in the long run. hell, dont even use it too much, the screen itself isnt infinite.
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Just an idea , doesn't help - apologies & ignore it
Do what the feck you want - good luck with your issue
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