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Hi!
After having my SGS4 for 3 years now (Thought it would last alot longer but since Pokemon Go I realized my device is struggling to keep the game running smooth and battery drain is real) I was looking for a "Bang for the buck" phone, so OnePlus 3 came into mind.
Now I've read some reviews and some were more posetive than others, all in all it seems like a great phone, especially for the money.
However, I have some questions I hope you guys can answer.
1. The phone has no expandable SD card, which leaves from what I've read 52,66GB storage for the user to use. Is this partitioned or is it just whats left after Oxygen OS? In other words, will this change between ROMS? Whats your experience with this if you before this device got used to having SD slot?
2. I've read about GPS/Signal issues here, this is just software related right? (As it seems from other threads I've read).
3. It also seems that Sources have been released for OP3, which means development will be supported for a long time, am I correct here?
4. Some reviews said OIS function was really lacking, is it software or hardware issue? Is it lacking at all?
5. On SGS4 the screean has smearing (The blue pixels light slower than the other pixels, which gives smearing effect). Does OP3 have similar issue? (AFAIK it uses a Samsung AMOLED display)
6. Any hardbrick commands to avoid? (Like bootloader erase command for Nexus 7, and please do NOT find it out for me if you don't know, bricking your phone as result)
7. Is the fingerprint reader anything other than a reader, like is it a button or capacitive button?
8. How is using USB type C in a world full of MicroUSB?
9. Battery is not "swappable" but what I've seen it's pretty easy to replace if you open up the phone, do you think it will be changable or is the battery any "special edition" (Like SGS4 has built in NFC in it's battery).
10. If anyone have had SGS4 before, general comparision, I suspect about everything will be better with OP3. So to turn it around, what was better on the SGS4?
Thats all for now.
Just put corresponding number infront of your answer, if you want to anwser specific questions.
Thanks in advance and hopefully it will make me an OP3 owner
hasselol said:
Hi!
After having my SGS4 for 3 years now (Thought it would last alot longer but since Pokemon Go I realized my device is struggling to keep the game running smooth and battery drain is real) I was looking for a "Bang for the buck" phone, so OnePlus 3 came into mind.
Now I've read some reviews and some were more posetive than others, all in all it seems like a great phone, especially for the money.
However, I have some questions I hope you guys can answer.
1. The phone has no expandable SD card, which leaves from what I've read 52,66GB storage for the user to use. Is this partitioned or is it just whats left after Oxygen OS? In other words, will this change between ROMS? Whats your experience with this if you before this device got used to having SD slot?
2. I've read about GPS/Signal issues here, this is just software related right? (As it seems from other threads I've read).
3. It also seems that Sources have been released for OP3, which means development will be supported for a long time, am I correct here?
4. Some reviews said OIS function was really lacking, is it software or hardware issue? Is it lacking at all?
5. On SGS4 the screean has smearing (The blue pixels light slower than the other pixels, which gives smearing effect). Does OP3 have similar issue? (AFAIK it uses a Samsung AMOLED display)
6. Any hardbrick commands to avoid? (Like bootloader erase command for Nexus 7, and please do NOT find it out for me if you don't know, bricking your phone as result)
7. Is the fingerprint reader anything other than a reader, like is it a button or capacitive button?
8. How is using USB type C in a world full of MicroUSB?
9. Battery is not "swappable" but what I've seen it's pretty easy to replace if you open up the phone, do you think it will be changable or is the battery any "special edition" (Like SGS4 has built in NFC in it's battery).
10. If anyone have had SGS4 before, general comparision, I suspect about everything will be better with OP3. So to turn it around, what was better on the SGS4?
Thats all for now.
Just put corresponding number infront of your answer, if you want to anwser specific questions.
Thanks in advance and hopefully it will make me an OP3 owner
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1. In other words it acts as a sdcard. Only downside for me (have been used to have removable sd card) is that I can't use my usb card reader no more and can't swap cards + in future some expansion would surely come handy, but for now I am completely satisfied with those 52 gigs. As it is much much larger than on my previous phone
2. Absolutely no issues here. I am using OP3Lite custom ROM based on stock Oxygen 3.2.1
3. Dunno, hope so.
4. Honestly, don't know. I didn't test a camera that much, and can't even compare with other OIS devices. But from my point of view it is working fine.
5. I think I know what you mean. I can see it when set display brightness to minimum in a really dark room. But when you set it juust a bit above the minimum (which is really low in my opinion) then it disapears.
6. Dunno.
7. It is also a capacitive home button. Working flawlessly for both usage.
8. Easy peasy, when you buy Micro USB -> USB C Adapter
9. Dunno.
10. No idea.
Using this phone for about a month and loving it since the day one. Problably the only thing I hate is that I can't get satisfying screen protector, which this device deserves. Just because of that tiny curved edge... It feels very nice when the phone is naked, but also impossible for tempered glass screen protector to cover the whole screen... And when it does, it really decreases display readibility... But thats just accessories, phone itself is great
Hopefully this will help a little bit.
jacobo23 said:
1. In other words it acts as a sdcard. Only downside for me (have been used to have removable sd card) is that I can't use my usb card reader no more and can't swap cards + in future some expansion would surely come handy, but for now I am completely satisfied with those 52 gigs. As it is much much larger than on my previous phone
2. Absolutely no issues here. I am using OP3Lite custom ROM based on stock Oxygen 3.2.1
3. Dunno, hope so.
4. Honestly, don't know. I didn't test a camera that much, and can't even compare with other OIS devices. But from my point of view it is working fine.
5. I think I know what you mean. I can see it when set display brightness to minimum in a really dark room. But when you set it juust a bit above the minimum (which is really low in my opinion) then it disapears.
6. Dunno.
7. It is also a capacitive home button. Working flawlessly for both usage.
8. Easy peasy, when you buy Micro USB -> USB C Adapter
9. Dunno.
10. No idea.
Using this phone for about a month and loving it since the day one. Problably the only thing I hate is that I can't get satisfying screen protector, which this device deserves. Just because of that tiny curved edge... It feels very nice when the phone is naked, but also impossible for tempered glass screen protector to cover the whole screen... And when it does, it really decreases display readibility... But thats just accessories, phone itself is great
Hopefully this will help a little bit.
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Thank you very much for the answer(s)! Really usefull info
jacobo23 said:
1. In other words it acts as a sdcard. Only downside for me (have been used to have removable sd card) is that I can't use my usb card reader no more and can't swap cards + in future some expansion would surely come handy, but for now I am completely satisfied with those 52 gigs. As it is much much larger than on my previous phone
2. Absolutely no issues here. I am using OP3Lite custom ROM based on stock Oxygen 3.2.1
3. Dunno, hope so.
4. Honestly, don't know. I didn't test a camera that much, and can't even compare with other OIS devices. But from my point of view it is working fine.
5. I think I know what you mean. I can see it when set display brightness to minimum in a really dark room. But when you set it juust a bit above the minimum (which is really low in my opinion) then it disapears.
6. Dunno.
7. It is also a capacitive home button. Working flawlessly for both usage.
8. Easy peasy, when you buy Micro USB -> USB C Adapter [emoji14]
9. Dunno.
10. No idea.
Using this phone for about a month and loving it since the day one. Problably the only thing I hate is that I can't get satisfying screen protector, which this device deserves. Just because of that tiny curved edge... It feels very nice when the phone is naked, but also impossible for tempered glass screen protector to cover the whole screen... And when it does, it really decreases display readibility... But thats just accessories, phone itself is great
Hopefully this will help a little bit.
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I've had this device now for a little over a week. I want to have it's babies. Love this device. I actually don't even hate the oxygen OS BC it's close to pure Android.
Good camera.
Battery gives me an avg of 6.5-7 SOT. Which is just stupid since it has a 3000 mAh battery. Just turn off the silly gestures. They kill battery BC it keeps the device awake.
The phone is ridiculous fast.
The only downside for me is the screen isn't quad HD. Its 1080p. At first I thought I'd notice but I really don't. Obviously text isn't as crisp as quad but its a good screen.
Overall there isn't much about this device I can gripe about.
This is my first OnePlus device and it's <3
hasselol said:
Hi!
After having my SGS4 for 3 years now (Thought it would last alot longer but since Pokemon Go I realized my device is struggling to keep the game running smooth and battery drain is real) I was looking for a "Bang for the buck" phone, so OnePlus 3 came into mind.
Now I've read some reviews and some were more posetive than others, all in all it seems like a great phone, especially for the money.
However, I have some questions I hope you guys can answer.
1. The phone has no expandable SD card, which leaves from what I've read 52,66GB storage for the user to use. Is this partitioned or is it just whats left after Oxygen OS? In other words, will this change between ROMS? Whats your experience with this if you before this device got used to having SD slot?
2. I've read about GPS/Signal issues here, this is just software related right? (As it seems from other threads I've read).
3. It also seems that Sources have been released for OP3, which means development will be supported for a long time, am I correct here?
4. Some reviews said OIS function was really lacking, is it software or hardware issue? Is it lacking at all?
5. On SGS4 the screean has smearing (The blue pixels light slower than the other pixels, which gives smearing effect). Does OP3 have similar issue? (AFAIK it uses a Samsung AMOLED display)
6. Any hardbrick commands to avoid? (Like bootloader erase command for Nexus 7, and please do NOT find it out for me if you don't know, bricking your phone as result)
7. Is the fingerprint reader anything other than a reader, like is it a button or capacitive button?
8. How is using USB type C in a world full of MicroUSB?
9. Battery is not "swappable" but what I've seen it's pretty easy to replace if you open up the phone, do you think it will be changable or is the battery any "special edition" (Like SGS4 has built in NFC in it's battery).
10. If anyone have had SGS4 before, general comparision, I suspect about everything will be better with OP3. So to turn it around, what was better on the SGS4?
Thats all for now.
Just put corresponding number infront of your answer, if you want to anwser specific questions.
Thanks in advance and hopefully it will make me an OP3 owner
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hasselol said:
Hi!
After having my SGS4 for 3 years now (Thought it would last alot longer but since Pokemon Go I realized my device is struggling to keep the game running smooth and battery drain is real) I was looking for a "Bang for the buck" phone, so OnePlus 3 came into mind.
Now I've read some reviews and some were more posetive than others, all in all it seems like a great phone, especially for the money.
However, I have some questions I hope you guys can answer.
1. The phone has no expandable SD card, which leaves from what I've read 52,66GB storage for the user to use. Is this partitioned or is it just whats left after Oxygen OS? In other words, will this change between ROMS? Whats your experience with this if you before this device got used to having SD slot?
2. I've read about GPS/Signal issues here, this is just software related right? (As it seems from other threads I've read).
3. It also seems that Sources have been released for OP3, which means development will be supported for a long time, am I correct here?
4. Some reviews said OIS function was really lacking, is it software or hardware issue? Is it lacking at all?
5. On SGS4 the screean has smearing (The blue pixels light slower than the other pixels, which gives smearing effect). Does OP3 have similar issue? (AFAIK it uses a Samsung AMOLED display)
6. Any hardbrick commands to avoid? (Like bootloader erase command for Nexus 7, and please do NOT find it out for me if you don't know, bricking your phone as result)
7. Is the fingerprint reader anything other than a reader, like is it a button or capacitive button?
8. How is using USB type C in a world full of MicroUSB?
9. Battery is not "swappable" but what I've seen it's pretty easy to replace if you open up the phone, do you think it will be changable or is the battery any "special edition" (Like SGS4 has built in NFC in it's battery).
10. If anyone have had SGS4 before, general comparision, I suspect about everything will be better with OP3. So to turn it around, what was better on the SGS4?
Thats all for now.
Just put corresponding number infront of your answer, if you want to anwser specific questions.
Thanks in advance and hopefully it will make me an OP3 owner
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So, answering my own questions, as I got my device yesterday:
1. Havent checked if storage changes depending on rom, or if it is partitioned. But yeah, there's OTG.
2. GPS signal is like a dream compared to my old SGS4, using GPS only in Pokemon GO it folows my location very accuratly.
3. Judging by the forum development is very well alive on this device, so I would assume we will get development for a long time ahead.
4. Havent tested, but checking several videos, OIS is a little lacking compared to other top models such as Galaxy S7, but improves stability alot compared to non OIS cameras.
5. No screen smearing from what I can see on this device, resulting in much clearer image while scrolling.
6. Have not tested. I suggest avoiding any command related to delete and bootloader in the same line.
7. Fingerprint reader is a capacitive home button. However, the button does not turn on the screen when pressed (Like samsung home button does).
8. Seen alot of USB-c to Micro USB adapters out there, for simple charging most should work. For data i havent tested yet.
9. Battery seems pretty easy to swap by checking teardown videos. It also looks like the NFC chip is not on the battery, but beneath the Camera lens.
10. Only thing better in SGS4 would be Micro SD, temperature and IR. Otherwise everything is way better on OP3.
I would recommend this phone, giving it a solid 8.5/10 rating.
Regards.
hasselol said:
Hi!
After having my SGS4 for 3 years now (Thought it would last alot longer but since Pokemon Go I realized my device is struggling to keep the game running smooth and battery drain is real) I was looking for a "Bang for the buck" phone, so OnePlus 3 came into mind.
Now I've read some reviews and some were more posetive than others, all in all it seems like a great phone, especially for the money.
However, I have some questions I hope you guys can answer.
1. The phone has no expandable SD card, which leaves from what I've read 52,66GB storage for the user to use. Is this partitioned or is it just whats left after Oxygen OS? In other words, will this change between ROMS? Whats your experience with this if you before this device got used to having SD slot?
2. I've read about GPS/Signal issues here, this is just software related right? (As it seems from other threads I've read).
3. It also seems that Sources have been released for OP3, which means development will be supported for a long time, am I correct here?
4. Some reviews said OIS function was really lacking, is it software or hardware issue? Is it lacking at all?
5. On SGS4 the screean has smearing (The blue pixels light slower than the other pixels, which gives smearing effect). Does OP3 have similar issue? (AFAIK it uses a Samsung AMOLED display)
6. Any hardbrick commands to avoid? (Like bootloader erase command for Nexus 7, and please do NOT find it out for me if you don't know, bricking your phone as result)
7. Is the fingerprint reader anything other than a reader, like is it a button or capacitive button?
8. How is using USB type C in a world full of MicroUSB?
9. Battery is not "swappable" but what I've seen it's pretty easy to replace if you open up the phone, do you think it will be changable or is the battery any "special edition" (Like SGS4 has built in NFC in it's battery).
10. If anyone have had SGS4 before, general comparision, I suspect about everything will be better with OP3. So to turn it around, what was better on the SGS4?
Thats all for now.
Just put corresponding number infront of your answer, if you want to anwser specific questions.
Thanks in advance and hopefully it will make me an OP3 owner
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1. I Love the storage as it is, came from a 32 GB Nexus, this is a dream.
2. No strange things here and I use it for running personal records with Endomondo app so it's important to me. Maybe not as accurate as the 6p, maybe.
3. I bought the device because of that so let's hope for the best
4. Don't know, focus sucks on custom Roms though
5. Yes, yes, yes, I cried a little cause I sold the 6p because of smearing and when i switched the op3 I saw it right away, it's bad and it's a gamble with AMOLED some units are better then other. For me it's the only let down of this phone.
6. Don't know, only used fastboot OEM unlock, fastboot format user data and fastboot flash recovery. That's all you need
7. Capacitive but it will wake the screen despite the person above told you. It's also a home button and you can set about 8-10 custom commands in oxygen and a lot more on custom Roms.
8. It's okay as long as my OnePlus charger is fine
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10. -
Heey everyone,
My phone has some serious problems. I'm talking about percentage not showing correctly, because of that the phone will go off at random. As the percentage that is shown (for example 43%) is actually a lot less (it's actually 0%). And when I try to turn it on, the phone must be charging, otherwise the chance of data getting deleted is almost 100% (I think around 85%). And with the data deletion problem comes the storage problem, because the data is probably still on there but not accessible by android or something and therefore my phone can't install updates now(the apps are all stock) even though they were on there the moment the phone shut off.
I hope you guys still understand the situation, but now my actual question
Because these problems are all the cause of a faulty battery, I want to replace the battery with a new one.
I couldn't find replacements for our butterfly 3 phone, but there are ones for the M8, M9 and M9+.
These batteries look very similar and I actually think they are the exact same size and they do have the same connector.
Since so many things are similar between the M9/M9+ and our Butterfly 3, I thought those batteries also fit our phone.
But since taking the phone apart is not easy and of course risky, I would like to ask if anyone here has taken apart a HTC (HTV31) Butterfly 3 before.
If so, could that someone please tell me how this phone can be disassembled and maybe even tell me what the size and the connector of the battery are.
I could of course just buy a new phone, but this phone is the only one on the market(!!!) that fits all my needs. And replacing the battery is cheaper than buying a new one. As I got lucky somehow that I didn't have to pay any taxes or anything when I bought it around 1.5 years ago. And the prices on ebay are definitely higher than back then.
If any of you has some other ideas to solve my problem or has a better phone with almost the same specs, then place say so
PS. If it's possible to use the battery of the M9, then I will try to put a larger capacity battery in it, as this capacity is a bit low.
you can go to taobao.com, look for the battery.
A chinese disassemble tutorial: tieba.baidu.com/p/4918349216
franspear said:
you can go to taobao.com, look for the battery.
A chinese disassemble tutorial: tieba.baidu.com/p/4918349216
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Thank you!
The website with the tutorial doesn't load unfortunately, but as I almost bought the battery for the M9, I am happy I now know they aren't the same.
Thanks again.
EDIT: Turns out that the images don't load. Do the images load for someone here? Would very much appreciate it if someone could upload the images somewhere.
I have the exact same problem with my htc butterfly 3
I am looking for a fix of the exact same problems for a long time. Havent found one. If u found a fix plz do let me know
I kept my Note 7 from Verizon. I disabled Samsung's update app through ADB which prevented ALL of the device killing updates from ever even appearing. This is the second version Note 7, with the green battery charging icon, that I obtained after I brought my first Note 7 back for the first recall.
I have since used my Note 7 ever since, with zero problems of any kind. And I just ordered my new Note 9 to replace it, 512GB and 8GB RAM. Fantastic journey!!!
I'm going to keep m Note 7 and was wondering if any definitive solutions for replacing the battery ever emerged? My Note 7 is at the point where it's battery's capacity has simply diminished from normal use. I have every single battery sucking feature always enabled - high accuracy location scanning, etc. I get a few hours out of a full charge before I'm getting low, plus I get precipitous zeroing in cold weather. Like, the phone shuts off if I leave it in the front pocket of my jacket when downhill skiing, when the battery gets below 40%.
So, I *would* like to replace the battery at some point, for that issue. Will an FE battery just go into it as a direct replacement? I did buy an S8+ battery at one point, after reading that it looked like it would fit/work, but I never got around to trying it. And tonight I just read later that it supposedly won't fit/work. So, I was rewarded for my inaction, in that case
:good:
-John
Can you share your ROM?
johnpjackson said:
I kept my Note 7 from Verizon. I disabled Samsung's update app through ADB which prevented ALL of the device killing updates from ever even appearing. This is the second version Note 7, with the green battery charging icon, that I obtained after I brought my first Note 7 back for the first recall.
I have since used my Note 7 ever since, with zero problems of any kind. And I just ordered my new Note 9 to replace it, 512GB and 8GB RAM. Fantastic journey!!!
I'm going to keep m Note 7 and was wondering if any definitive solutions for replacing the battery ever emerged? My Note 7 is at the point where it's battery's capacity has simply diminished from normal use. I have every single battery sucking feature always enabled - high accuracy location scanning, etc. I get a few hours out of a full charge before I'm getting low, plus I get precipitous zeroing in cold weather. Like, the phone shuts off if I leave it in the front pocket of my jacket when downhill skiing, when the battery gets below 40%.
So, I *would* like to replace the battery at some point, for that issue. Will an FE battery just go into it as a direct replacement? I did buy an S8+ battery at one point, after reading that it looked like it would fit/work, but I never got around to trying it. And tonight I just read later that it supposedly won't fit/work. So, I was rewarded for my inaction, in that case
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-John
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Sorry for mistopic, but can you share your ROM somehow?
My N930V is simply killing me. Interface lags are constant with lots of crashes.
I believe to have the first version without green battery, maybe it's software is not as good as second one.
Can't find any solutions for this on the web unfortunately.
johnpjackson said:
I kept my Note 7 from Verizon. I disabled Samsung's update app through ADB which prevented ALL of the device killing updates from ever even appearing. This is the second version Note 7, with the green battery charging icon, that I obtained after I brought my first Note 7 back for the first recall.
I have since used my Note 7 ever since, with zero problems of any kind. And I just ordered my new Note 9 to replace it, 512GB and 8GB RAM. Fantastic journey!!!
I'm going to keep m Note 7 and was wondering if any definitive solutions for replacing the battery ever emerged? My Note 7 is at the point where it's battery's capacity has simply diminished from normal use. I have every single battery sucking feature always enabled - high accuracy location scanning, etc. I get a few hours out of a full charge before I'm getting low, plus I get precipitous zeroing in cold weather. Like, the phone shuts off if I leave it in the front pocket of my jacket when downhill skiing, when the battery gets below 40%.
So, I *would* like to replace the battery at some point, for that issue. Will an FE battery just go into it as a direct replacement? I did buy an S8+ battery at one point, after reading that it looked like it would fit/work, but I never got around to trying it. And tonight I just read later that it supposedly won't fit/work. So, I was rewarded for my inaction, in that case
:good:
-John
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John, I have a little insight on replacing your battery. Luckily, all Samsungs S6 and up have the same connector. If you are able to find a battery that fits, whether it be an S7 or S7 edge battery, you might be able to do this repair yourself! I haven't had the opportunity to attempt this repair, as I live in a small town, and the device is almost unheard of nowadays. I work at a mobile repair shop with a national branch, known as CPR Cell Phone Repair. I'll do a little more research on this, and give you a reply with an answer on whether or not it's possible.
The battery protection circuit has been *unofficially* identified as the culprit of these devices. So in that case, use a different device's battery, right?
Thanks,
-Mark
Markb001 said:
John, I have a little insight on replacing your battery. Luckily, all Samsungs S6 and up have the same connector. If you are able to find a battery that fits, whether it be an S7 or S7 edge battery, you might be able to do this repair yourself! I haven't had the opportunity to attempt this repair, as I live in a small town, and the device is almost unheard of nowadays. I work at a mobile repair shop with a national branch, known as CPR Cell Phone Repair. I'll do a little more research on this, and give you a reply with an answer on whether or not it's possible.
The battery protection circuit has been *unofficially* identified as the culprit of these devices. So in that case, use a different device's battery, right?
Thanks,
-Mark
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You know, I bought a new battery for an S7 edge for it, but never tried installing it because I did some more reading and thought I saw something that made me think it wouldn't fit or have the correct connector or something.
But, I still have the phone and the new battery and it would be way cool to still do the replacement! The original battery is just really tired and beat. It was diwn to holding maybe a third of its original charge capacity. It would be like having a new phone again if I got a working replacement battery into it!! ??
johnpjackson said:
You know, I bought a new battery for an S7 edge for it, but never tried installing it because I did some more reading and thought I saw something that made me think it wouldn't fit or have the correct connector or something.
But, I still have the phone and the new battery and it would be way cool to still do the replacement! The original battery is just really tired and beat. It was diwn to holding maybe a third of its original charge capacity. It would be like having a new phone again if I got a working replacement battery into it!!
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Let me know how it goes! I'm interested!
I've heard it is.
But with it, 2 more questions arise, since i've seen people claiming it's the RAM problem, others saying it's the CPU. Nobody seems to agree on what's the actual problem.
So, I tried ironing the G4 over the RAM, around 230°C for 3 minutes, pressed on it a bit then let it cold. Proceeded to put folded aluminum and Artic MX-2 thermal compound so it would make pressure on it but also transfer heat okayish.
I've had random reboots but apart from that it's working.
So here is the thing, if i send it for a reballing of the RAM (obviously good lead solder) will it work with no problem? Or do i need to reball the CPU instead?
This because im not wasting any more money on this device only to fail again in a near future.
What do you guys think?
Its both. Ram sitting over CPU. CPU solders are actualmprobkem though....caused by poor soldering
Don't bother. The solders points are do tiny they use a computer not hand
deltadiesel said:
Its both. Ram sitting over CPU. CPU solders are actualmprobkem though....caused by poor soldering
Don't bother. The solders points are do tiny they use a computer not hand
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So in theory reballing both CPU and RAM would solve it? Or is the CPU itself which doesnt work properly?
I know people who have the proper tools to work on small components, i just dont wanna spend on it if even after reballing both turn out the CPU is actually bad like on those nvidia 8800 GTX, which failed anyway after reballing, turning out the problem wasnt the solder but the actual GPU which killed itself.
lRaziel1 said:
So in theory reballing both CPU and RAM would solve it? Or is the CPU itself which doesnt work properly?
I know people who have the proper tools to work on small components, i just dont wanna spend on it if even after reballing both turn out the CPU is actually bad like on those nvidia 8800 GTX, which failed anyway after reballing, turning out the problem wasnt the solder but the actual GPU which killed itself.
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The actual problem is to o components sitting on each other causing excessive heat. Its not a defective CPU or RAM chip. I've seen a video on YouTube where a guy places a thermal paste pad and never has issues again
I'm not isure if it us the actual solder points get screwed up because my device has never looped. You'd have to ask someone to show you pics after a bootloop. But then again if a person was able to fix it with a thermal pad I don't think its the solder points but rather putting something that dissapates the heat off the chips
You cannot mimic a solder point like this. Its too small. Expect to get no guarantee that the solder point will last
Anyone will tell u go get a board or another device. Only people that actually do small work like that are Chinese (not being racist) in my area atleast that have a lot of expierence in fixing electric components. They never guarantee their work though because the work they're asked to do they know they can't mimic a robot
For the money you spend trying to solder you can probably get a new board these days. Mine is a pre release. It has 2gb of ram instead of 3. So did it loop? I don't know. LG doesn't acknowledge it as a loop. They call it a power failure. Does it mean bootloop? Its possible. I'm kinda confused about my phone but I've never seen the axtuql bootloop. Just not being able to power the phone on. No one has a 2gb ram G4 like I do. Did they replace the ram? Beats me...but I can tell you no one else got a G4 with 2gb ram from LG back.
Sorry if I confused you but I meant its the heat and overlay of ram and CPU that causes the problem, whether it actually screwed up the solder points I'm not sure
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The actual problem is to o components sitting on each other causing excessive heat. Its not a defective CPU or RAM chip. I've seen a video on YouTube where a guy places a thermal paste pad and never has issues again
I'm not isure if it us the actual solder points get screwed up because my device has never looped. You'd have to ask someone to show you pics after a bootloop. But then again if a person was able to fix it with a thermal pad I don't think its the solder points but rather putting something that dissapates the heat off the chips
You cannot mimic a solder point like this. Its too small. Expect to get no guarantee that the solder point will last
Anyone will tell u go get a board or another device. Only people that actually do small work like that are Chinese (not being racist) in my area atleast that have a lot of expierence in fixing electric components. They never guarantee their work though because the work they're asked to do they know they can't mimic a robot
For the money you spend trying to solder you can probably get a new board these days. Mine is a pre release. It has 2gb of ram instead of 3. So did it loop? I don't know. LG doesn't acknowledge it as a loop. They call it a power failure. Does it mean bootloop? Its possible. I'm kinda confused about my phone. No one has a 2gb ram G4 like I do. Did they replace the ram? Beats me...but I can tell you no one else got a G4 with 2gb ram from LG back.
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I've seen these small components get their solder balls replaced, it requieres skills but it can be done and as i've seen it thats why im confident on it. But yes im aware it could also go wrong.
I've been thinking and im also guessing it could be flexion damage, like the iphone 6. As the G4 is curved, perhaps a motherbaord screwed too tight, combined with use and heat could be the cause of it bootlooping, hence why it sometimes works again by putting pressure on it.
Actually i made some kind of small 'heatsink' out of folded aluminum foil, compressed it while heating it @ 200°C to get air bubbles out, and used thermal compound so that thingy both makes pressure on to the chip and disipates heat. Worked fine for 4 days then its back to bootloop again.
Thats one odd G4 you got there. I wouldnt mind at all having even 1 GB of RAM if that ment the device is working properly.
You are making me realise im better off buying a new board then putting in those mini cooper heatsinks.
tbh im struggling right now with moneyz so its fixing this, or buying a screen for either my Xperia Arc S (which is slow af thanks to google play services, but cant use any app without them) or for my Moto X 2013 (which looses phone signal when it gets hot until you reboot, also NFC chip doesnt work).
Repairing any of those would cost me something similar so i guess im better off with a new board. You know any trusted seller on ebay?
And thanks a lot for the help :highfive:
I guess by seeing videos they always heat the CPU and the solder points start working again
My phone and ram is just a mystery.
Because they're both right there.... Maybe either one can go. But I always see the CPU getting heated.
I love how none of the videos tell you or show you how easy it is to melt the chip using a blow dryer. Lol
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I've seen these small components get their solder balls replaced, it requieres skills but it can be done and as i've seen it thats why im confident on it. But yes im aware it could also go wrong.
I've been thinking and im also guessing it could be flexion damage, like the iphone 6. As the G4 is curved, perhaps a motherbaord screwed too tight, combined with use and heat could be the cause of it bootlooping, hence why it sometimes works again by putting pressure on it.
Actually i made some kind of small 'heatsink' out of folded aluminum foil, compressed it while heating it @ 200°C to get air bubbles out, and used thermal compound so that thingy both makes pressure on to the chip and disipates heat. Worked fine for 4 days then its back to bootloop again.
Thats one odd G4 you got there. I wouldnt mind at all having even 1 GB of RAM if that ment the device is working properly.
You are making me realise im better off buying a new board then putting in those mini cooper heatsinks.
tbh im struggling right now with moneyz so its fixing this, or buying a screen for either my Xperia Arc S (which is slow af thanks to google play services, but cant use any app without them) or for my Moto X 2013 (which looses phone signal when it gets hot until you reboot, also NFC chip doesnt work).
Repairing any of those would cost me something similar so i guess im better off with a new board. You know any trusted seller on ebay?
And thanks a lot for the help :highfive:
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Alibaba or aliexpress or eBay. I'd ask the seller for serial boars number. You know its likely good if it starts with a 6. Even better with a 7. If your lucky you'll find one with a 4 like mine....
810 board with 811 T-Mobile software. Takes custom Roma that are aosp based but not lg based....which doesn't matter anymore because lg based ROMs are lollipop based and were at Oreo now.
I don't really have problems with having 1gb ram leas. But occassionaly my phone will become sluggish if I open like 30 things
deltadiesel said:
I guess by seeing videos they always heat the CPU and the solder points start working again
My phone and ram is just a mystery.
Because they're both right there.... Maybe either one can go. But I always see the CPU getting heated.
I love how none of the videos tell you or show you how easy it is to melt the chip using a blow dryer. Lol
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Alibaba or aliexpress or eBay. I'd ask the seller for serial boars number. You know its likely good if it starts with a 6. Even better with a 7. If your lucky you'll find one with a 4 like mine....
810 board with 811 T-Mobile software. Takes custom Roma that are aosp based but not lg based....which doesn't matter anymore because lg based ROMs are lollipop based and were at Oreo now.
I don't really have problems with having 1gb ram leas. But occassionaly my phone will become sluggish if I open like 30 things
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They gave me Toshiba ram instead of Samsung ram I dont know
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They gave me Toshiba ram instead of Samsung ram I dont know
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Heres mine
Also i'd like to keep all my camera's capabilities so no custom ROM for me.
But yeah i went to some sellers and asked about their motherboards serial number and see if at least i can get a 60X
Seems like the only way to get a working phone.
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Heres mine
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Also i'd like to keep all my camera's capabilities so no custom ROM for me.
But yeah i went to some sellers and asked about their motherboards serial number and see if at least i can get a 60X
Seems like the only way to get a working phone.
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Some camera apps are pretty good much better than the stock google camera...users have discussed options in AOSCP thread. But yeah u won't get raw capture with them
Don't bother with serial number starting with 5 they're older motherboards...5 being 2015...when they first came out. 6 2016 7 2017
I can't stand lg stick software its so ugly would of never bought phone if it didn't gave ROMs.
I have two extended batteries and wall charger so I swap out batteries instead if using USB charger...if it wasn't for thus I'd likely be using another phone
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Some camera apps are pretty good much better than the stock google camera...users have discussed options in AOSCP thread. But yeah u won't get raw capture with them
Don't bother with serial number starting with 5 they're older motherboards...5 being 2015...when they first came out. 6 2016 7 2017
I can't stand lg stick software its so ugly would of never bought phone if it didn't gave ROMs.
I have two extended batteries and wall charger so I swap out batteries instead if using USB charger...if it wasn't for thus I'd likely be using another phone
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mine is a 509 so yeah i wont pick those.
I mean with the G4 i use the stock LG camera app, not the google camera. LG Camera app on original signed firmware gives best quality imo. I have no problems with LG UI so ill keep it. And yes battery life is a pain but meh hehe, tbh my standars right now are so low that id forgive any flaw if i get a reliable working phone and not one that randomly restarts and bootloops-
So well yes i'll try with a new motherboard, preferably 70X and put a thermal pad on it right away. Thanks a lot for your time
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mine is a 509 so yeah i wont pick those.
I mean with the G4 i use the stock LG camera app, not the google camera. LG Camera app on original signed firmware gives best quality imo. I have no problems with LG UI so ill keep it. And yes battery life is a pain but meh hehe, tbh my standars right now are so low that id forgive any flaw if i get a reliable working phone and not one that randomly restarts and bootloops-
So well yes i'll try with a new motherboard, preferably 70X and put a thermal pad on it right away. Thanks a lot for your time
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Don't touch the new board
I get 27 hours on my extended batteries
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Don't touch the new board
I get 27 hours on my extended batteries
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ok you got me at 27 hours lol
but why do you say i shouldnt touch the new board? if its bad thermals what cause the issue in the 1st place
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ok you got me at 27 hours lol
but why do you say i shouldnt touch the new board? if its bad thermals what cause the issue in the 1st place
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Stop focusing on what is wrong with old board and don't try and fix what isn't broken on new board.
Its a rule
Power bear 5000 mah battery
deltadiesel said:
Stop focusing on what is wrong with old board and don't try and fix what isn't broken on new board.
Its a rule
Power bear 5000 mah battery
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fair enough, but its engineered in pretty much the same way inefficient way as they've been doing it since the G3 which also had this problems, so honestly with this phone im not taking any chances, ill just put a little thermal pad and thats all ill do.
that battery requires calibration or just plug n play?
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fair enough, but its engineered in pretty much the same way inefficient way as they've been doing it since the G3 which also had this problems, so honestly with this phone im not taking any chances, ill just put a little thermal pad and thats all ill do.
that battery requires calibration or just plug n play?
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Leave it alone lol
Calibrates after 5 charges
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Leave it alone lol
Calibrates after 5 charges
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Was scrolling through my old posts and figured it may be interesting for you to know this.
I baked the SoC with an iron, worked fine for like 2 days, then bootlooped again.
I was broke so I sold it for spare parts rather than getting a new board.
Kinda regret it ngl, but man, battery life was absolutely terrible. Had to charge it AT LEAST, twice a day, and my Poco F3 could go on 3 days if I administered it well, and doesn't heat up.
As of right now, while I have a Poco F3 as mentioned, I have to daily drive an LG G3, for which I am also struggling because it's using Android 6 and some apps I need are not compatible, and I'm struggling to flash a ROM on the verizon version... just troubles over troubles with LG...
same ol', same ol'.
I am making this post so it is more broadly seen by people who have a specific hardware issue.
This solution is for issues specifically with the board being fried or more likely broken solder connection. I found this solution while browsing Chinese Custom Rom threads and apparently it works.
Absolutely it's better to pay a professional reball the broken solder connection.
There is a do it yourself/cheap method that definitely does not involve using an Oven.
I included photos at the bottom of the link and rather than create a redundant post, for something that I have already made : Go here for the Jerry Rig Suggestion
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79303956&postcount=72
Good Luck
Make sure you followed all of the unbricking steps here https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/how-to/unbrick-leeco-phones-leeco-variants-t3847220 before even considering this method..
There are 3 unbricking methods mentioned
Qfil with Flash 2.0 or 1.9 ( Try both)
QPST ( Instructions in first comment of unbricking thread)
Flashbat.all method ( Instructions on Unbrick OP, and in first couple of comments)
Hi
What do you think, can I repair this problem? :
My phone is dead. It is not able to turn on, it just squezing sometimes, if I push the turn on button. The screen is full black since the shut down. No logo no any fastboot screen, nothing. The led light was pale green before the qfil.
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What do you think, can I repair this problem? :
My phone is dead. It is not able to turn on, it just squezing sometimes, if I push the turn on button. The screen is full black since the shut down. No logo no any fastboot screen, nothing. The led light was pale green before the qfil.
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I wouldn't bother trying this possible solution unless you are 100% sure that you have broken solder connections. Just because your phone doesnt turn on doesn't mean its the chips. It much more likely that your issue is just the battery.
Also just so you know when the board is fried the phone will still turn on, and will boot to fastboot but not recovery, qfil works but does nothing and if you boot to fastboot and leave it on the fastboot screen the screen will turn to static. At least this is what happens with the majority of chip death issues. However there was one case that I know of on a friends X722 which could not go to fastboot, and that issue ended up being a fried GPU, which this possible fix may resolve.
If you are only getting a black screen leave the phone plugged in overnight ( preferably with a different cable) , After knowing that the phone was charged for long enough what happened? Did the phone get warm at all? Does the phone vibrate?
If the phone does vibrate, try using the QPST method, it's the 2nd post on the Unbricking thread mentioned above in the OP.
Another possible cause of your issue is static, they only way to test and possibly resolved is to unplug the battery from the board and plug back in again. Should you attempt trying this, only use a heat gun to melt the glue holding the screen on...there is alot and a hair dryer will not work, without damaging your LCD.
If I had your issue, I would order a battery and LCD, and swap the battery, there is a good chance it will work. If not you can move on to more drastic solutions such as the one mentioned in the OP. Worse case scenario, you will be out the cost of the battery which is about $7 and LCD which is about $15
Good Luck and make sure you followed all of the steps here https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/how-to/unbrick-leeco-phones-leeco-variants-t3847220
There are 3 unbricking methods mentioned
Qfil with Flash 2.0 or 1.9 ( Try both)
QPST ( Instructions in first comment of unbricking thread)
Flashbat.all method ( Instructions on Unbrick OP, and in first couple of comments)
I believe I read this thread before, but didn't read it well
This thing here I believe is very important, so much to put it in special color
>>Also just so you know when the board is fried the phone will still turn on, and will boot to fastboot but not recovery, qfil works but does nothing and if you boot to fastboot and leave it on the fastboot screen the screen will turn to static.
I guess it's certain now that I have some harware issue, most probably if GPU is separated from the CPU.
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the board being fried or more likely broken solder connection. I found this solution while browsing Chinese Custom Rom threads and apparently it works.
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I don't know if it's just me who is unlucky but I have lost yet another USB board. This time the one you sent me burnt up as I connected it to my PC. I don't think it's a cable issue because I was using a high quality USB cable from BASEUS. How could it be that I'm not seeing more complaints like mine?
This time I think it could have been caused by dirt in the port because I'd just returned from my rural area and there I did a lot of work involving dirt. Also, there was a slight shower that got me on my way back and I keep the phone in the pocket with the USB port exposed and looking up. My patience with this phone has just about run out now. This is the worst investment I've ever made on a phone :crying:
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I don't know if it's just me who is unlucky but I have lost yet another USB board. This time the one you sent me burnt up as I connected it to my PC. I don't think it's a cable issue because I was using a high quality USB cable from BASEUS. How could it be that I'm not seeing more complaints like mine?
This time I think it could have been caused by dirt in the port because I'd just returned from my rural area and there I did a lot of work involving dirt. Also, there was a slight shower that got me on my way back and I keep the phone in the pocket with the USB port exposed and looking up. My patience with this phone has just about run out now. This is the worst investment I've ever made on a phone :crying:
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Wow, sorry to hear that. I think that those LeEco phones are hit or miss. But it really doesn't seem that they were made to last more that a couple of years. I have fried the usb card myself, when I bought very first leeco, its too easy to fry those cards, and in retrospect the Leeco charge is too powerful. The remaining Leeco that I have left charges much better ( stays cooler) when using my Xiaomi Charger.
I agree that you have had some really bad luck. I would not put any more money into it. you are better off buying a cheap Xiaomi...even a used one. You can find some good deals on Amazon and Swappa. Amazon also has refurbished Samsung phones, and they are highly reliable.
You can get a Galaxy 7 for $139 https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Gala...s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1573693012&sr=1-4&th=1 and they are really good phones.
Here is a renewed One Plus 6T for $267 https://www.amazon.com/OnePlus-A601...ked+cell+phones+renewed&qid=1573693220&sr=8-4
LG V30 for $177 https://www.amazon.com/LG-Camera-Si...ed+cell+phones+renewed&qid=1573693365&sr=8-21
I bought my daughter an A3 and honestly I can't recommend it enough. For a tight budget I personally feel that this is one of the best deals out there for ony $158 ( $50 less than what I paid 2 months ago) https://www.amazon.com/Xiaomi-A3-64...=sr_1_3?keywords=Xiaomi&qid=1573693435&sr=8-3
It has an Amoled Screen and comes with Android One with zero bloatware. You basically get a custom rom experience with a stock phone. To make matters better Android 10 will be released for the A3 in January. The camera, is light years better than the Le Pro 3 and the processor is honestly fast enough, for most of us. No doubt, its more expensive than just getting another card. But saving yourself from the hassles of these constant issues will make it worthwhile. The only drawback is the screen is 720 instead of 1080. But I swear, if you place in side by side with my Mi8, most people would never guess, that the resolution is a little less. Because it's still an amoled screen.
Best wishes, unfortunately I don't have any more working cards or I would send it to you.
I've learned that quick charge is dangerous. I'm using now an usb meter that doesn't let an output beyond 1.4amps to charge my phone now, it charges pretty quickly in fact and my phone doesn't get hot now (even that I live in a hot area)
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I've learned that quick charge is dangerous. I'm using now an usb meter that doesn't let an output beyond 1.4amps to charge my phone now, it charges pretty quickly in fact and my phone doesn't get hot now (even that I live in a hot area)
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Yeah. The current pushed by the stock leeco charger is either too high (doubtful) or the charging system of the pro 3 isn't designed to handle quick charge 3 very well (most likely). I have used my stock leeco charger to charge my brother's Nokia 8 (Q.C. 3) and it gets just a little warm even with a case on. Also, the leeco charger is Quick Charge 3 certified so they must have made it according to Qualcomm standards.
I think it's the quality of the parts on the phone itself that are substandard. Since this USB board was sent to me by @tsongming and he had used it quite a while, I believe it could have been perfectly fine. My suspicion is that something else could be wrong with my phone like the USB flex cable. The kind of burning I saw must have been caused by power from the battery because the USB 2.0 port I was connecting to on my PC can only provide 2.5 amps maximum. This is not enough in my opinion to completely melt the usb-c receptacle on the phone. (It's very badly burnt). I will just have to charge the battery externally until I figure out whether it's worth investing any more money into this phone.
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Yeah. The current pushed by the stock leeco charger is either too high (doubtful) or the charging system of the pro 3 isn't designed to handle quick charge 3 very well (most likely). I have used my stock leeco charger to charge my brother's Nokia 8 (Q.C. 3) and it gets just a little warm even with a case on. Also, the leeco charger is Quick Charge 3 certified so they must have made it according to Qualcomm standards.
I think it's the quality of the parts on the phone itself that are substandard. Since this USB board was sent to me by @tsongming and he had used it quite a while, I believe it could have been perfectly fine. My suspicion is that something else could be wrong with my phone like the USB flex cable. The kind of burning I saw must have been caused by power from the battery because the USB 2.0 port I was connecting to on my PC can only provide 2.5 amps maximum. This is not enough in my opinion to completely melt the usb-c receptacle on the phone. (It's very badly burnt). I will just have to charge the battery externally until I figure out whether it's worth investing any more money into this phone.
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My X722 died because I just plugged in the cable to charge. Although I have to admit that the phone socket was not in optimal conditions because I used a crappy cable, so the last one I was using was charging fine but it had to enter in an specific position in order to quick charge to function. It's probably the charger IC that is damaged, but I haven't had the money to send it to repair.
As far as I know, the motherboards just provide 0.5amp unless you are using an special port that can provide more power.
In my opinion 2.5amp at 5v is not that good either, because it's pushing the limit of most phones at 5v.
I am guessing that buying the original $30 USB board from AliExpress won't buy me much time because they have all been used before. Almost every spare part of this phone is not brand new (except for batteries and screens, I guess).
I think it's time to cut my losses. My pro 3 not only needs a new USB board but also a battery and another high quality USB cable. I might buy all of that for $60 only to have the USB port burn again. It doesn't make any sense to keep pouring money into this phone.
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What ? $30 usd ? I've seen it in $2.5 for 2 boards, well, not original of course.
You just need to check that it has the extra IC, because there are ones that doesn't has it... although I don't remember what was for that IC, but you can easy see it that some boards just are missing a chip.
As for the cable, I'm using some EFFE cables (EFFE is the brand) and they are working wonderfully, I bought 3 for $7 usd, they plug in fine and stay in too, they were recommended to me by a friend and I'm very happy with them. They even stop giving charge to my dead phone because they detect somehow that there is a short, well, at least that is what my usb meter tells me, although I don't know how do they manage to do that, I don't really think they have an IC in them.
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I am guessing that buying the original $30 USB board from AliExpress won't buy me much time because they have all been used before. Almost every spare part of this phone is not brand new (except for batteries and screens, I guess).
I think it's time to cut my losses. My pro 3 not only needs a new USB board but also a battery and another high quality USB cable. I might buy all of that for $60 only to have the USB port burn again. It doesn't make any sense to keep pouring money into this phone.
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For the record the board that I sent you came from a brand new, LePro 3 not opened bought in the spring 2018. However, I assume that it was made after Leecos public fall. I would guess that it was assembled with C grade parts, because my remaining, working LePro 3 is one of our first Leecos bought in 2016. It's also interesting to note that our 2 remaining X522s are both functioning just fine.
As you said could be the flex cables or just a shoddy soldering job that eventually shortened out the board.
Have you tested the board to be sure that it's not the port itself that is bad?
Another interesting thing to note is that Qualcomm removed Leeco from it's list of approved quick charge device list.
One last reason on why I feel that the charger itself may be part of the problem is that I have a 12 watt portable charger and the Leecos do not get hot at all when using it.
I threw my Leeco charging bricks in the trash after my daughter plugged in my Mi8 for me while I was cooking dinner. Not knowing that I had a preference, she used the Leeco charger.
Later when I checked the phone to see if it was finished charging, I found it was extremely hot, and this phone is rated for QC 4.0. So rather than taking any chances into the trash it went.
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For the record the board that I sent you came from a brand new, LePro 3 not opened bought in the spring 2018. However, I assume that it was made after Leecos public fall. I would guess that it was assembled with C grade parts, because my remaining, working LePro 3 is one of our first Leecos bought in 2016. It's also interesting to note that our 2 remaining X522s are both functioning just fine.
As you said could be the flex cables or just a shoddy soldering job that eventually shortened out the board.
Have you tested the board to be sure that it's not the port itself that is bad?
Another interesting thing to note is that Qualcomm removed Leeco from it's list of approved quick charge device list.
One last reason on why I feel that the charger itself may be part of the problem is that I have a 12 watt portable charger and the Leecos do not get hot at all when using it.
I threw my Leeco charging bricks in the trash after my daughter plugged in my Mi8 for me while I was cooking dinner. Not knowing that I had a preference, she used the Leeco charger.
Later when I checked the phone to see if it was finished charging, I found it was extremely hot, and this phone is rated for QC 4.0. So rather than taking any chances into the trash it went.
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Wow!! Leeco really must have used grade c parts. I haven't mistreated that board even once since you sent it. That means it only lasted three months! It is just unbelievably negligent for leeco to use these parts. They must have been from the reject pile.
I don't need to test the board because the USB-C receptacle on the phone is completely melted. Connecting a charging cable seems to cause it to heat up fast and start smoking. It might have been a short on the connector that caused it to burn up. I think the quality of the protruding part with the pin connectors is just poor and repeated use loosens the pins which eventually touch.
I'm done with leeco for good now. I was thinking about fixing the phone to sell but that now seems like a lost cause. I'll keep it until it's dead and then take a hammer to it. Even selling it for spare parts might be a loss for me so I'm stuck with it.
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Wow!! Leeco really must have used grade c parts. I haven't mistreated that board even once since you sent it. That means it only lasted three months! It is just unbelievably negligent for leeco to use these parts. They must have been from the reject pile.
I don't need to test the board because the USB-C receptacle on the phone is completely melted. Connecting a charging cable seems to cause it to heat up fast and start smoking. It might have been a short on the connector that caused it to burn up. I think the quality of the protruding part with the pin connectors is just poor and repeated use loosens the pins which eventually touch.
I'm done with leeco for good now. I was thinking about fixing the phone to sell but that now seems like a lost cause. I'll keep it until it's dead and then take a hammer to it. Even selling it for spare parts might be a loss for me so I'm stuck with it.
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I am sure that they used low quality parts on those last batches of phone, I heard via a friend who lives in Shenzhen that they hired a 3rd party to assemble the final phones... The ones that came with 32gb drives, no nfc or quick charge etc. It sucks because they had so much potential.
Whatever you end up getting. Please do stay in touch, I have enjoyed our conversations and I wish you the best.
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I am sure that they used low quality parts on those last batches of phone, I heard via a friend who lives in Shenzhen that they hired a 3rd party to assemble the final phones... The ones that came with 32gb drives, no nfc or quick charge etc. It sucks because they had so much potential.
Whatever you end up getting. Please do stay in touch, I have enjoyed our conversations and I wish you the best.
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This puppy is not out yet. I figure it's got one last hurrah before I throw in the towel. I've been shopping around for a phone with similar performance for around the same price but from the current generation of phones and I've not come across anything else. At least not in the same price range. Performance is very important to me and I just can't take a downgrade. I guess I'm stuck with it for a while.
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twistyplain said:
This puppy is not out yet. I figure it's got one last hurrah before I throw in the towel. I've been shopping around for a phone with similar performance for around the same price but from the current generation of phones and I've not come across anything else. At least not in the same price range. Performance is very important to me and I just can't take a downgrade. I guess I'm stuck with it for a while.
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Its good that it's still working for now. Unfortunately you probably only have 4 to 6 weeks before it stops working completely. I was thinking about you situation and made the list below of additional options/good deals.
The Snapdragon 665 has similar performance to the Snapdragon 821 and the Note 8, (the version with the SD665) can be had for under $200 : https://www.amazon.com/Xiaomi-Displ...keywords=Snapdragon+665&qid=1573874157&sr=8-2
If you can spend a just a little more the Mi8's price has dropped to $250, https://www.amazon.com/Xiaomi-6-64G...ef=sr_1_1?keywords=Mi+8&qid=1573874317&sr=8-1 and I can't recommend it enough. It's definitely my most favorite phone that I have owned and I know that you care about the camera a lot. I can promise that the Mi 8 has one hell of a great camera, and stock camera, is absolutely fantastic, especially with video. In fact, I prefer it for video over the latest Pixel 7.XXX Camera and yes it does Astrophotography.
As I mentioned before the A3, is much better than you would ever expect and you can find them for $150.
If budget is a primary concern: It is definitely worth looking at among the best new phones for the money. Plus the bootloader is easily unlocked with no waiting period. if you want a new phone for around $150. I honestly can't think of a better phone, and as I mentioned my daughter has this phone, so I have actually used it, and I am telling you, it's damn good.
Another option is buying a used 128GB Pixel refurbished $120
I have seen them for as low as $75, or you could buy a One Plus 3T
Edit: I just now found this phone and although it has a mediatek processor, its brand new , has Android 9.0 , 4gb ram, 64 gb hd space and it's just a little over $100 UMIDIGI Power This may be the one, if you can deal with processor but there's a lot of people who say that this phone is great, I dont know if you can use roms, but I have heard that it doesn't have bloatware, so it be a smart buy. Edit : The $118 price is a lightning deal, and the price will go backup to $139 by the time you read this. In that case, I would personally avoid it, but I am am a little biased against mediatek for reasons. Mostly heat and poor battery life.
tsongming said:
Its good that it's still working for now. Unfortunately you probably only have 4 to 6 weeks before it stops working completely. I was thinking about you situation and made the list below of additional options/good deals.
The Snapdragon 665 has similar performance to the Snapdragon 821 and the Note 8, (the version with the SD665) can be had for under $200 : https://www.amazon.com/Xiaomi-Displ...keywords=Snapdragon+665&qid=1573874157&sr=8-2
If you can spend a just a little more the Mi8's price has dropped to $250, https://www.amazon.com/Xiaomi-6-64G...ef=sr_1_1?keywords=Mi+8&qid=1573874317&sr=8-1 and I can't recommend it enough. It's definitely my most favorite phone that I have owned and I know that you care about the camera a lot. I can promise that the Mi 8 has one hell of a great camera, and stock camera, is absolutely fantastic, especially with video. In fact, I prefer it for video over the latest Pixel 7.XXX Camera and yes it does Astrophotography.
As I mentioned before the A3, is much better than you would ever expect and you can find them for $150.
If budget is a primary concern: It is definitely worth looking at among the best new phones for the money. Plus the bootloader is easily unlocked with no waiting period. if you want a new phone for around $150. I honestly can't think of a better phone, and as I mentioned my daughter has this phone, so I have actually used it, and I am telling you, it's damn good.
Another option is buying a used 128GB Pixel refurbished $120
I have seen them for as low as $75, or you could buy a One Plus 3T
Edit: I just now found this phone and although it has a mediatek processor, its brand new , has Android 9.0 , 4gb ram, 64 gb hd space and it's just a little over $100 UMIDIGI Power This may be the one, if you can deal with processor but there's a lot of people who say that this phone is great, I dont know if you can use roms, but I have heard that it doesn't have bloatware, so it be a smart buy. Edit : The $118 price is a lightning deal, and the price will go backup to $139 by the time you read this. In that case, I would personally avoid it, but I am am a little biased against mediatek for reasons. Mostly heat and poor battery life.
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Tony, you're among very few people I know who are invaluable to communities like these. I'm always impressed by how easily you go out of your way to help community members at XDA. Thank you so much for always being helpful even when you don't have to be. If I had the means I would buy you several cases of beer (or whatever non-alcoholic beverage you like) just to say how much I appreciate you. But for now I can just say THANK YOU!! From the bottom of my heart.
Out of all the options you gave me just now and a few days ago, the brand new Mi A3 is the best option by far. Refurbished is a no-go and yes, I hate Mediatek too. Been there, done that, but once you've got a taste of Qualcomm, there's simply no going back. I'm inclined to go for the A3 because of its AMOLED screen, UFS 2.1, decent camera, and, most importantly, it's price-performance ratio. It doesn't beat the A2 in performance but it more than makes up for it in the additional features.
I am going to keep the pro 3 as long as I can to see if prices drop even more (I'm all about the value). It's only my charging port that's gone so I'm taking out the battery and charging it externally for as long as I can. Everything else works normally. I'm also on my last ROM for this phone -- I can't flash another one because I changed to TWRP 3.2.1 which doesn't see my internal storage anymore (encryption).
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tylerciggy said:
What ? $30 usd ? I've seen it in $2.5 for 2 boards, well, not original of course.
You just need to check that it has the extra IC, because there are ones that doesn't has it... although I don't remember what was for that IC, but you can easy see it that some boards just are missing a chip.
As for the cable, I'm using some EFFE cables (EFFE is the brand) and they are working wonderfully, I bought 3 for $7 usd, they plug in fine and stay in too, they were recommended to me by a friend and I'm very happy with them. They even stop giving charge to my dead phone because they detect somehow that there is a short, well, at least that is what my usb meter tells me, although I don't know how do they manage to do that, I don't really think they have an IC in them.
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Sorry I hadn't seen this post. The cheaper boards tagged as "copy" boards don't have working quick charge or ability to connect to pc for mtp file transfer. They're only good for slow charging and sometimes even that is hit or miss. The boards that cost between $25 and $30 are original leeco boards. Probably not brand new but original. They have all features of the original like quick charge, mtp, otg, cdla and everything else the new phone could do. I wouldn't even consider going close to the cheaper "copy" boards.
I had a single 50 cm baseus USB cable that i bought for around $4 and it was of very good quality. It even supported usb PD and it was built like a tank. Just holding it gives you confidence that it's gonna last a while. Even the board getting fried didn't damage the cable but I'm not using it again. The power pin on the usb cable changed from gold to just plain silver so it must have taken some damage. I would buy a new one to be safe.
I'm done repairing this phone for good. It's not worth the expense and there's too much uncertainty involved even after it's fixed. I could fix it and have it die barely a month later. That would be $50 down the drain. I'm not going through that again.
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It seems this phone is on its last leg now. Since yesterday the proximity sensor doesn't work. I think it must be all this opening and closing up of the metal shield to remove the battery. Also, the earpiece speaker only works in loudspeaker mode now. It doesn't work in calls. I think I might have an audio related software issue because sound isn't playing even if I play a music or video file. I have flashed another ROM but this behavior remains. Could this require me to flash persist?
Edit: The earpiece and proximity sensor are acting up because of the damaged USB board. Both work well when I use an app that tests hardware features. They are failing to work for phone calls and video playback because the phone is detecting that I have earphones plugged in. I figured this out when I reflashed a new PIE ROM and saw the headphone icon is always displayed on the status bar even without anything connected to the port. I guess the board getting fried messed up with jack detection.
@tsongming Please tell me if this motherboard is le pro3 x722 or le pro3 x720.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DD0JQRZe4t4KOmedt0eEThaGEOKBH3AZ/view?usp=sharing