Hi folks,
after i crashed my Nexus 6 i bought the Moto Z Play. Great mobile with a long lasting battery, i love it.
The only thing is, that i got used to Ambient Display on the Nexus. I read, that it is also possible on the Moto. Just stop and disable the process (called "Moto Info" on the device, German setting, maybe called different in other languages), go to display and enable the option Ambient Display.
But it doesn't work. Screen not goes on after receiving a message. Have i done smth wrong or is it not possible anymore after the update?
Thanks in advance, greetings and have a nice day.
PS: Having stock, locked, unrooted Android 7 on the phone.
Do you have the option "Ambient Display" on your phone? or did you confuse it with "Adaptive Brightness"?
As far as i know, Motorola has phased it out ( or nicely put intergrated with Moto Display) and the method you describe works only on Moto X Play.
Moto Display is the equivalent to Ambient Display. It's in the Moto App. IMO, Moto Display is better than Ambient Display.
Thanks for reply, and sorry for my long taking answer. Had to make a business trip to a neighbour country.
Yes, i've the option "Ambient Display" in the display settings. On MM was it possible to use it like i discribed it. But under nougat I never got it running. Which one is better depends on the own needs. I got used to the Nexus 6 and that it showed the preview of the received message, when the display switched on. With Moto Display I've to hit the icon first with the finger to see the message.
Moto display is working after nougat update.
Was anyone ever able to get stock ambient display (not Moto Active Display) working?
Disabling the Moto Display app enables the ambient display setting but it do not work at all, the screen never lights up when a notification arrives.
Any suggestions? maybe rooting or some xposed thing?
Hello everybody.
We all know that Moto Display is very useful and shows incoming notification. In Moto G and E devices, it activates when the phone is moved from its position, or when a flip cover over the phone is opened. However I have heard that in Moto X devices, it activates even if you wave over the proximity sensor.
So I thought of making a small app that does the same. It is on Play Store.
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Hit thanks if the app has helped you.
So I've noticed my AOD isn't turning off at all. While I do have it set to "Show Always", it should still turn off after a short time if the proximity sensor is covered., as was the case with the S7, S8 and S9.
Could you guys please confirm if this is the case for your AOD too? Turning the phone face down or put it in your pocket (or just cover the top half of the display) for a few minutes, see if the AOD turns off. Let me know if anyone sees it turn itself off.
You have to have AOD set to "Show Always" for this test to be valid.
I suspect this could be a bug which Samsung might need to be made aware of, hence my request for others to test. Unless I'm missing something VERY obvious. Or Maybe this is by design?
Thanks :good:
EDIT: thinking about this further, I reckon the proximity sensor is only active while it's flashing, such as when a call is being made. Because it's a "behind the display" type sensor. So maybe they made a trade off with AOD?
It's a sad news for you. S10+ doesn't have a proximity sensor as a trade-off for the screen (sounds ridiculous?). And some features are like sh*t due to the lack of proximity sensor. I don't know if I can go through with this so-called flagship
GialanG said:
It's a sad news for you. S10+ doesn't have a proximity sensor as a trade-off for the screen (sounds ridiculous?). And some features are like sh*t due to the lack of proximity sensor. I don't know if I can go through with this so-called flagship
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Ummm, of course it has a proximity sensor.....
Try making a call to someone (use voicemail if you want). You'll see a little white flashing dot to the left of the cameras, near the battery icon. This is the proximity sensor: https://hothardware.com/news/blinking-white-pixel-samsung-galaxy-s10-feature-not-bug
Try covering it up while in a call. The display will go off. Because you just covered up the proximity sensor. Because they do have one.
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Ummm, of course it has a proximity sensor.....
Try making a call to someone (use voicemail if you want). You'll see a little white flashing dot to the left of the cameras, near the battery icon. This is the proximity sensor: https://hothardware.com/news/blinking-white-pixel-samsung-galaxy-s10-feature-not-bug
Try covering it up while in a call. The display will go off. Because you just covered up the proximity sensor. Because they do have one.
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No it's not. Can you check it on your phone with *#0*# in the dialer or any proximity checking app? The result is always 0.
I had troubles with the double tap to wake and the show fingerprint features, and sometimes with calls when my phone behaves abnormally. Then I checked and it turns out that S10 doesn't have a proximity sensor. Samsung did other things to replace the proximity sensor's function, but it has been much worse than before
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So I've noticed my AOD isn't turning off at all. While I do have it set to "Show Always", it should still turn off after a short time if the proximity sensor is covered., as was the case with the S7, S8 and S9.
Could you guys please confirm if this is the case for your AOD too? Turning the phone face down or put it in your pocket (or just cover the top half of the display) for a few minutes, see if the AOD turns off. Let me know if anyone sees it turn itself off.
You have to have AOD set to "Show Always" for this test to be valid.
I suspect this could be a bug which Samsung might need to be made aware of, hence my request for others to test. Unless I'm missing something VERY obvious. Or Maybe this is by design?
Thanks :good:
EDIT: thinking about this further, I reckon the proximity sensor is only active while it's flashing, such as when a call is being made. Because it's a "behind the display" type sensor. So maybe they made a trade off with AOD?
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tried it on a S10E, the AOD always stay on even when in pocket.
Can confirm on my s10+. AOD does not turn off in my pocket or laying face down.
did anyone notice the werid little flashing spot above the the signal bars? that`s the only place where when I put my finger over it the screen goes off during call
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No it's not. Can you check it on your phone with *#0*# in the dialer or any proximity checking app? The result is always 0.
I had troubles with the double tap to wake and the show fingerprint features, and sometimes with calls when my phone behaves abnormally. Then I checked and it turns out that S10 doesn't have a proximity sensor. Samsung did other things to replace the proximity sensor's function, but it has been much worse than before
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Seriously, it has both a proximity sensor and light sensor as per normal. They may work slightly different, hence why crappy test apps from the Play store don't work. And why AOD is no longer turning off in pockets.
Watch JerryRigEverything's teardown, specifically here, where he physically points them out: https://youtu.be/kHzmFPoZbCA?t=427
2003vstrom said:
did anyone notice the werid little flashing spot above the the signal bars? that`s the only place where when I put my finger over it the screen goes off during call
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Read the link I posted in my earlier post. That's the proximity sensor.
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Seriously, it has both a proximity sensor and light sensor as per normal. They may work slightly different, hence why crappy test apps from the Play store don't work. And why AOD is no longer turning off in pockets.
Watch JerryRigEverything's teardown, specifically here, where he physically points them out: https://youtu.be/kHzmFPoZbCA?t=427
Read the link I posted in my earlier post. That's the proximity sensor.
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Not only apps in Store, but the SS diagnostic mode doesn't show either. Check the attached pics of S10+ and Note 5 in SS stock diagnostic mode
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Try covering it up while in a call. The display will go off. Because you just covered up the proximity sensor. Because they do have one.
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Same here.
Tbh it's not really a trade off I'm happy with because it makes AOD a source of battery drain at this point. I want to be able to put my phone face down to save battery. Do you think this might actually be a bug?
Started a thread in the Samsung community forum. Maybe some of you guys can top up with your own findings.
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-S10/Always-on-display-not-turning-off/m-p/473981#M2111
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No it's not. Can you check it on your phone with *#0*# in the dialer or any proximity checking app? The result is always 0.
I had troubles with the double tap to wake and the show fingerprint features, and sometimes with calls when my phone behaves abnormally. Then I checked and it turns out that S10 doesn't have a proximity sensor. Samsung did other things to replace the proximity sensor's function, but it has been much worse than before
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Found this article which confirms the existence of a proximity sensor.
https://hothardware.com/news/blinking-white-pixel-samsung-galaxy-s10-feature-not-bug
The trade-off might be due to the fact that's the sensor is tied to that blinking pixel and is only active while making phone calls.
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Same here, AOD doesn't turn off when flipping it over or covering top portion of the screen.
I'm starting to think this is why they added the feature of AOD only turning on when you tap the screen once as a trade off for it not automatically turning off
mrnovanova said:
Found this article which confirms the existence of a proximity sensor.
https://hothardware.com/news/blinking-white-pixel-samsung-galaxy-s10-feature-not-bug
The trade-off might be due to the fact that's the sensor is tied to that blinking pixel and is only active while making phone calls.
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I tend to agree. I carry my S10+ in my shirt pocket and have noticed that AOD remains on.
Additionally, if double tap to wake the screen is on, the screen will wake on in your pocket without double-tapping it. I have disabled this feature as its annoying that this is also buggy!
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I tend to agree. I carry my S10+ in my shirt pocket and have noticed that AOD remains on.
Additionally, if double tap to wake the screen is on, the screen will wake on in your pocket without double-tapping it. I have disabled this feature as its annoying that this is also buggy!
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This combined with the lift to wake option interpreting placing in pocket as lifting and the ultrasonic fingerprint reader activating in pockets is giving us of a real annoyance.
I hope Samsung are aware of this and do something about it.. .. ..
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Very strange... just tried disabling double tap to wake the screen and it didn't stop it happening... Doh
It's a bug, they forgot to link the older aod behaviour with the new implementation of this sensor, I expect it to be fixed in the next update, along with everything else.
I'm constantly getting this too. Even with AOD off and the option to not turn screen on when in pocket(can't remember exactly name) I'm still constantly having my phone turn on in my pocket. At work I get a break every 2.5 hours and sometimes 45 minutes or more of that it'll be on in my pocket. I've pulled it out several times and the emergency call screen be on with a lot of numbers pressed. It's definitely a huge annoyance. My battery almost died during a 10 hour shift because of this.
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Hi everyone. Any thoughts on this issue? This still persists for me even though my phone is up to date and it's may already.
I too think that there's a trade off with the in-screen proximity sensor and the fact that the phone doesn't recognise that's in a pocket. Mine keeps going on while in it.
There must be a way to get around this issue but I'm suspecting we'll never see an optimal fix since the proximity sensor uses that lit pixel to work and nobody would like to see it blinking every second.
I blame bad engineering here. Thumbs down for Samsung mobile.
I blame the new in screen proximity sensor. I doubt they will ever get a fix for their first gen type used on our devices. It'll probably be fixed on the note 11 or S11. I hope not though.
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folks, its a bug in Oneui which existed in all S10 and s10+... its had been reported since day one and still Samsung still unable to solve this issues till date. And they published an notice in Samsung member app, next update will be addressing this issues finally. so lets wait for May updates and see they really solve it.
https://www.sammobile.com/2019/05/13/samsung-galaxy-s10-future-updates-improvements
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folks, its a bug in Oneui which existed in all S10 and s10+... its had been reported since day one and still Samsung still unable to solve this issues till date. And they published an notice in Samsung member app, next update will be addressing this issues finally. so lets wait for May updates and see they really solve it.
https://www.sammobile.com/2019/05/13/samsung-galaxy-s10-future-updates-improvements
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Oops accidentally thanked you.
Samsung will never resolve it on the s10, you heard it from here first.
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I've been using Tasker to keep my phone off in my pocket with a combination of 'orientation on right side' and 'proximity sensor' active. Googling a bit, I see some mention about a software upgrade breaking the proximity sensor not long ago.
Anyone know more about it? Sensor seems to work ok when phone is on - maybe it got broken for non-phone things?
(note - turned off double-tap to wake & lift to wake to try to keep phone off when in my pocket)
since s10, proximity sensor is internally controlled only on certain activities. example: phone calls
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jemfalor said:
since s10, proximity sensor is internally controlled only on certain activities. example: phone calls
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I was just researching this again & found this, which matches what you say:
The proximity sensor is indeed under the screen and a pixel has to be turned off for it to work properly. This means proximity apps will not work properly any more unless Samsung writes them.
So Samsung turns off a pixel so that the Proximity Sensor can see/work (like during a call) - and that means my Tasker screen off will not work. Wonder if there is a Tasker "if front camera covered".. gonna go look that up now - actually that won't work, would require the camera to always be on.
Hmm.
polstein said:
I was just researching this again & found this, which matches what you say:
The proximity sensor is indeed under the screen and a pixel has to be turned off for it to work properly. This means proximity apps will not work properly any more unless Samsung writes them.
So Samsung turns off a pixel so that the Proximity Sensor can see/work (like during a call) - and that means my Tasker screen off will not work. Wonder if there is a Tasker "if front camera covered".. gonna go look that up now.
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tried. had tasker as well and was relying on proximity sensor. gave up
jemfalor said:
tried. had tasker as well and was relying on proximity sensor. gave up
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I was trying to play with the light sensor with no luck - so I stripped my profile down to just Orientation Right Side = off...and it failed. The screen off works when i manually test it in Tasker, not sure why orientation fails too.
Maybe this is for another thread - what the heck are people that keep the phone in their pockets doing? I've read keep screen away from leg which is a pain for me and the flygrip I use on my phone. Must be a better way!
I just upgraded from an S8 to a 21 FE, I had this setup where my screen will turn off using the proximity sensor, so when I open my case cover or lift it up from the table it just turns on automatically.
Upgrading, I notice the apps I used (Gravity Screen, Smart Screen On Off) are not working as they used to. In most tests, I did seem to suggest the proximity sensor only responds when the front lens is covered by my thumb instead of just hovering over with my hand like before. I did the *#77692# test and the Proximity sensor is working fine then WHEN I enable it so I'm at a lost here, is this a technical issue, is this by design
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I just upgraded from an S8 to a 21 FE, I had this setup where my screen will turn off using the proximity sensor, so when I open my case cover or lift it up from the table it just turns on automatically.
Upgrading, I notice the apps I used (Gravity Screen, Smart Screen On Off) are not working as they used to. In most tests, I did seem to suggest the proximity sensor only responds when the front lens is covered by my thumb instead of just hovering over with my hand like before. I did the *#77692# test and the Proximity sensor is working fine then WHEN I enable it so I'm at a lost here, is this a technical issue, is this by design
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Didn't you find the gesture to double tap the screen to wake up?
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Didn't you find the gesture to double tap the screen to wake up?
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I did, but I'm used to waving my phone awake with both my hand and by opening my phone case, but it seems the more recent Galaxy phones don't allow the same use of the proximity sensor
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I did, but I'm used to waving my phone awake with both my hand and by opening my phone case, but it seems the more recent Galaxy phones don't allow the same use of the proximity sensor
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A touch sensor while the screen is locked can consume less power than a proximity sensor placed in a camera, for example.