When will the next Google Pixel XL be released? - Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers

Hello,
i know the Google Pixel just released, but because of some details of the phone, that are not so good in my opinion, I would like to know if there is the next Google Phone planned. Is the approximate date of the next Google phone known?
Thanks for your answers!
Pizzatoni

Pizzatoni said:
Hello,
i know the Google Pixel just released, but because of some details of the phone, that are not so good in my opinion, I would like to know if there is the next Google Phone planned. Is the approximate date of the next Google phone known?
Thanks for your answers!
Pizzatoni
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Most likely it will be October again. I would assume that they wouldn't just stop the pixel branded phone, maybe they might bring back the nexus line (probably not, wishful thinking), one thing Google is good at, is surprising us.

I think the Google phones are most compatible to android, the software is not stuttering and the system is running so smooth
Does anyone thinks the performance could be improved by updates? So the phone will be running faster or will this not be able?

Fastest phone I have ever used
Any improvements will be faster CPU.
Waterproofing and front facing speakers
I would love to have the speakers from the
OG Nexus 6 on this phone lol.

humdrum2009 said:
Fastest phone I have ever used
Any improvements will be faster CPU.
Waterproofing and front facing speakers
I would love to have the speakers from the
OG Nexus 6 on this phone lol.
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I would be more interested in a better DAC than speakers that will never sound as good as $15 desktop speakers you can buy at Office Max.

Pizzatoni said:
I think the Google phones are most compatible to android, the software is not stuttering and the system is running so smooth
Does anyone thinks the performance could be improved by updates? So the phone will be running faster or will this not be able?
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Of course improvements will come with updates. At least I hope so. The one thing Google didn't do well with the nexus devices was update the phones to make them better. They updated Android which gave a better overall experience but they never worked on squeezing everything out of a device. I'd like to see that with the Pixel. We're getting the Android updates but I'd like to see the pixel itself improve as well.

xocomaox said:
I would be more interested in a better DAC than speakers that will never sound as good as $15 desktop speakers you can buy at Office Max.
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Give it time maybe they will
New techniques are around the corner.
These phones have to get thicker at some point, 2 small mid tweeters sound like a plan.

The Pixels will likely get refreshed October 2017
Seems like every year after the iHype there is a release.

humdrum2009 said:
Fastest phone I have ever used
Any improvements will be faster CPU.
Waterproofing and front facing speakers
I would love to have the speakers from the
OG Nexus 6 on this phone lol.
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"OG Nexus 6".... damn...I must be getting old. I still think the N6 has another year of life left in it. Cheers!
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By saying OG lol it's a sign of respect
The sound on that phone is gangster.
The guy I sold mine was bragging, this morning about it smh.
I heard the sound again, I think that's one reason that phone was so big is speaker placement.

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How do you like the pixel?

Well I pulled the trigger on a 128gb pixel xl today from google. It is supposed to ship out on May 5th. The battery on my 6p has degraded over time and it's no longer within warranty. So how are you guys enjoying the phone? What kind of battery life are you getting. I am glad to be upgrading to the SD821 from the 810. Is throttling much of an issue?
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Well I pulled the trigger on a 128gb pixel xl today from google. It is supposed to ship out on May 5th. The battery on my 6p has degraded over time and it's no longer within warranty. So how are you guys enjoying the phone? What kind of battery life are you getting. I am glad to be upgrading to the SD821 from the 810. Is throttling much of an issue?
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Hello,
I also had an N6P before the XL. I must say it took me some time to get used to the smaller screen, but after a few days, it's ok. I would like a N6P or N6P like Pixel XL 2 though... Camera is awesome. Screen colors could have been better. You can correct it a bit with a custom kernel and a kernel manager app though. I don't listen to music with my phone, but with the arrival of Android O and the new codecs, I guess I'm going to buy some good earbuds soon.
About battery life? I used to get decent battery with the N6P. Note that i am on wifi 90% of the time. I don't use social network apps. Mostly web browsing, SMS/MMS, photos and some YouTube. Check the attached screenshot. Since last charge, I only used my phone for web browsing on wifi. But with mixed usage, lot of apps syncing and 4G/LTE I guess it would be much less.
Phone stays cool where N6P used to get warm... Not using my phone for intensive tasks either but I can feel the difference. I don't play games, so I have never really experienced throttling with N6P either. Just the phone getting hotter than any other phones I already owned...
Hope that helps...
Cheers...
5.1 said:
Hello,
I also had an N6P before the XL. I must say it took me some time to get used to the smaller screen, but after a few days, it's ok. I would like a N6P or N6P like Pixel XL 2 though... [emoji14] Camera is awesome. Screen colors could have been better. You can correct it a bit with a custom kernel and a kernel manager app though. I don't listen to music with my phone, but with the arrival of Android O and the new codecs, I guess I'm going to buy some good earbuds soon.
About battery life? I used to get decent battery with the N6P. Note that i am on wifi 90% of the time. I don't use social network apps. Mostly web browsing, SMS/MMS, photos and some YouTube. Check the attached screenshot. Since last charge, I only used my phone for web browsing on wifi. But with mixed usage, lot of apps syncing and 4G/LTE I guess it would be much less.
Phone stays cool where N6P used to get warm... Not using my phone for intensive tasks either but I can feel the difference. I don't play games, so I have never really experienced throttling with N6P either. Just the phone getting hotter than any other phones I already owned...
Hope that helps...
Cheers...
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Thank you!
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Love the software the only phone I've bought that never lagged or stuttered on me EAS is amazing but price is a bit questionable other than the camera not really getting much for the price would of loved better audio one thing the Pixel is terrible at other than that it's a good phone
liam_davenport said:
Love the software the only phone I've bought that never lagged or stuttered on me EAS is amazing but price is a bit questionable other than the camera not really getting much for the price would of loved better audio one thing the Pixel is terrible at other than that it's a good phone
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Thanks man!
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Best camera, so awesome that even after selling the phone it keeps haunting me or something.
Best software experience. Phone is not as fast as a OP3T or something but I care about consistent performance and smoothness over burst performance.
Incredible call quality.
Very good battery life too.
The only reason I sold the phone was because of the touch screen issue I had on mine and then two other Pixels I tried too. Probably a hardware issue, or software calibration of the display, whatever it is it was annoying enough for me to not be able to use the phone, especially when I play games which require continuous touching.
Came from Nexus 6P (with a stop with iPhone 7+ until I got my Pixel XL) and to me its just an upgraded 6P, I loved my 6P only reason I got rid of it is I am on Verizon and they dont support WiFi calling with it and I built a new house with 9' basement and got no service whatsoever down there. Only thing I would change on the Pixel is cosmetic. Thing isnt the best looking phone but I'll take performance/stable/smooth and solid over how it looks any day. Tried the LG G6 and S8+ briefly and came right back to Pixel because it is still better IMO.
Coming from the 6P and OP3, it's a huge upgrade from the 6P in battery life, build quality, camera and performance, and a moderate upgrade from the OP3. Touch lag is pretty much nonexistent or barely perceptible, software is the best Google has ever released. You'll probably love it.
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Gilley said:
Came from Nexus 6P (with a stop with iPhone 7+ until I got my Pixel XL) and to me its just an upgraded 6P, I loved my 6P only reason I got rid of it is I am on Verizon and they dont support WiFi calling with it and I built a new house with 9' basement and got no service whatsoever down there. Only thing I would change on the Pixel is cosmetic. Thing isnt the best looking phone but I'll take performance/stable/smooth and solid over how it looks any day. Tried the LG G6 and S8+ briefly and came right back to Pixel because it is still better IMO.
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I'm in the same boat currently. Moved into a new house & my Verizon coverage is spotty. Just found out the 6P can't do wifi calling on Verizon so I need another device. Did you buy your XL from Verizon or from the Google store? Trying to see if the unlocked version from Google will do wifi calling on Verizon
untouchablez said:
I'm in the same boat currently. Moved into a new house & my Verizon coverage is spotty. Just found out the 6P can't do wifi calling on Verizon so I need another device. Did you buy your XL from Verizon or from the Google store? Trying to see if the unlocked version from Google will do wifi calling on Verizon
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Yea the Google version will do everything the Verizon version does and has unlocked bootloader if you ever plan on switching out ROMs etc. I have the Verizon version and wished I had the Google version if that helps.
I'm enjoying it a lot.
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Yea the Google version will do everything the Verizon version does and has unlocked bootloader if you ever plan on switching out ROMs etc. I have the Verizon version and wished I had the Google version if that helps.
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Yes Im definitely trying to avoid the Verizon version due to the locked bootloader. Love my 6p but I need wifi calling and the pixel is really the only option sadly.
Performance is amazing, no lag, scrolling smoothness is great, apps load quick. My only real criticism is the small SBR. But hey, I knew that before I bought it.
My iPhone is my daily driver. I am too invested in its software to Let It Go especially for work purposes. Whenever a new Samsung Galaxy phone comes out I always purchase it to test it out and it never lasts more than 2 weeks before I return it because I just hate the software and the lagginess. I have been eyeing the pixel XL for quite some time but I always got discouraged to purchase it given that it was consistently unavailable, and had long shipping wait times. Anyhow, I recently lucked out and was in the situation where I was able to purchase the pixel XL and took the plunge. All I can say is that the pixel XL is the smoothest Android phone I've ever used. This is really a step that Samsung needs to take if it intends to take away any of Apple's business. I personally care for good Hardware but put a premium on a phone's software. That is why I tend to always use the iPhone as my daily driver. But to be honest I've been using the pixel a lot more than my iPhone. I'm loving this phone. If you took this software and put it on the new Galaxy S8, the Galaxy S8 would probably be the phone of the year in my opinion. In the time I have been using the pixel, the phone has not lagged one time. I even overloaded the phone with applications and the phone still performs smoothly.
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My iPhone is my daily driver. I am too invested in its software to Let It Go especially for work purposes. Whenever a new Samsung Galaxy phone comes out I always purchase it to test it out and it never lasts more than 2 weeks before I return it because I just hate the software and the lagginess. I have been eyeing the pixel XL for quite some time but I always got discouraged to purchase it given that it was consistently unavailable, and had long shipping wait times. Anyhow, I recently lucked out and was in the situation where I was able to purchase the pixel XL and took the plunge. All I can say is that the pixel XL is the smoothest Android phone I've ever used. This is really a step that Samsung needs to take if it intends to take away any of Apple's business. I personally care for good Hardware but put a premium on a phone's software. That is why I tend to always use the iPhone as my daily driver. But to be honest I've been using the pixel a lot more than my iPhone. I'm loving this phone. If you took this software and put it on the new Galaxy S8, the Galaxy S8 would probably be the phone of the year in my opinion. In the time I have been using the pixel, the phone has not lagged one time. I even overloaded the phone with applications and the phone still performs smoothly.
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Yea I had an iPhone 7+ between my 6P and Pixel XL and like you said its so smooth and never lags, I use to be a big **** talker to my friends who used apple and after using it I get why people like it, just wasnt for me. I hated looking at 5000 icons and folders etc. If they ever got an app drawer it would be a different story but until then the OCD in me needs android and Pixel is the smoothest one out there. I too try each phone and I last maybe a week or so before I'm back to my Pixel because the new ones just cant keep up and arent worth $600-800 for how it looks.
Today I have a fight with my self about replacing my XL with S8+ , I was afraid of missing the software flexibility and customization and missing the smoothness and lag free software , so I decided to stay with the XL.
S8+ Have a nice screen , but actually using black profile on the kernel editor give me some sense of S8 screen colors .
Any way I couldn't replace the smoothness in XL with the screen colors in S8.

Overall happy with V30

Coming from the S8+ and I could not be happier. The camera just amazes me. I forced myself this weekend to use the modes. What a great phone.
Thoughts?
Yep, best phone out right now. It'll probably be the best phone of 2017. LG hit a home run with this one.
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Yep, best phone out right now. It'll probably be the best phone of 2017. LG hit a home run with this one.
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I agree. It's only missing two things in my opinion.
- LED indicator
- Better front camera
I also didn't realize the benefit of having the headphone jack on the bottom until this phone.
Yeah I also prefer the headphone jack to be on the bottom.
Wow I feel like verge doesn't make sense anymore, "screen is bad" is just too much, you might have received a unit with issue but you can't call the v30 franchise bad
www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2017/10/16/16457544/lg-v30-review-design
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Wow I feel like verge doesn't make sense anymore, "screen is bad" is just too much, you might have received a unit with issue but you can't call the v30 franchise bad
www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2017/10/16/16457544/lg-v30-review-design
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Yeah this makes no sense. I'm not married to this phone and want the best I can have. I honestly love this phone. I've considered sending back to get the XL 2 and that's merely for software updates. Not worth the lack in hardware, imo.
I ignore anything from the Verge. They are just stupid.
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melihcarter said:
Wow I feel like verge doesn't make sense anymore, "screen is bad" is just too much, you might have received a unit with issue but you can't call the v30 franchise bad
www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2017/10/16/16457544/lg-v30-review-design
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I thought it was weird as well. I think I read that they were testing a Korean version for whatever reason. I'm guessing it's all that they were able to get a hold of while they tested, but it seems a bit unfair of them to not wait for a US carrier model like every other reputable publication.
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I ignore anything from the Verge. They are just stupid.
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All it takes to prove this right is a quick read of their opinion regarding the V30 audio/headphone jack. I know of basically a whole forum of people who would kill for a phone that has awesome audio and headphone jack. Problem is that the manufacturers can't seem to build a phone with that and everything else.
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I was a "never again" LG guy ...
So far, so good. Very happy with the V30.
In fact, for the most part, I actually like their skin over the stock Android from my Nexus. Few tweaks would really make it more useful, but no issue.
My last LG was a G5 I returned it after 2 days due to the build issues. How is the V30? Really interested in the camera and audio output
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Wow I feel like verge doesn't make sense anymore, "screen is bad" is just too much, you might have received a unit with issue but you can't call the v30 franchise bad
www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2017/10/16/16457544/lg-v30-review-design
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owning the note 8 the screen is bad. no contest, i didnt want to believe but the Samsung screen are ALOT. now compare to other screen thia is a great screen.
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My last LG was a G5 I returned it after 2 days due to the build issues. How is the V30? Really interested in the camera and audio output
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Camera is great, but not the best and audio output through the headphone jack is the best. I say the camera is not the best overall, but for me it kind of is because I would rather have the wide angle instead lens of 2x zoom.
Picked up my V30 from T-Mobile last night. My immediate impressions, coming from an S8 and previously a Pixel XL are that this phone is great but does have some immediate flaws.
Some initial thoughts:
- The finger print scanner is blazing fast. On par with my old OnePlus 3 and my Pixel XL. In comparison, the Samsung S8 fingerprint scanner is slow, often unresponsive, and in a horrible position.
- I work from my home office full time and I spend A LOT of time on client calls. I often have headphones plugged into my phone for these calls. I just got off of a conference call and could immediately tell that the audio output through even pretty basic in-ear headphones is significantly better than my S8 was. Voice clarity is much improved and people sound more like they are in the room with you, rather than on a conference call. This is HUGE for me. And I imagine that music quality will see this same improvement through the headphones.
- I was happy to see that there was SIGNIFICANTLY less bloatware to uninstall/disable on this phone than their was on my Samsung S8.
- The overall UI is extremely fluid and fast. The speed of opening quick settings and the notification drop down, navigating through settings, and swapping between apps is on par with my Pixel XL, which is a breath of fresh air coming from the S8. However, there is still some lag to be had within apps, but I'll discuss that below.
- The camera is excellent. I'm not seeing any blurry photos, as others have apparently seen.
The negatives...
- The stock LG dialer and messages apps are hilariously ugly. I was able to get a new theme installed, which cleaned those up a bit but it still doesn't compare to the stock Google dialer/messages apps. Future "Pixel" style themes for the V30 will likely fix this, though.
- I have seen noticeable and consistent scroll lag in some apps like Chrome, Instagram, Facebook, and even in LG's own themes app. I've changed animation scaling to .5x and enabled GPU rendering in developer settings but I haven't seen an improvement. I've only had my phone for about 12 hours at this point so I'm going to give it more time to adapt. However, if this doesn't improve and/or starts effecting more apps over time, it might actually be a deal breaker for me.
- I compared the Pixel 2 XL to the V30, side by side, in my local Verizon store. The front facing speakers on the 2 XL put the single bottom facing speaker on the V30 to complete shame. The downside is that those front facing speakers come with larger bezels, though. Unfortunately, in my short time using the V30, I've already found myself accidentally covering the bottom speaker more than once.
I still have my Pixel 2 XL on order and at the moment, I don't intend to cancel it. If I find that the lag I'm seeing in some apps does not improve over time, I'll probably return the V30 and hold out for my 2 XL. I don't want to give up wireless charging or the headphone jack. But I will if I have to, in order to get a 100% lag free phone. Especially at this $800+ price point.
eduardmc said:
owning the note 8 the screen is bad. no contest, i didnt want to believe but the Samsung screen are ALOT. now compare to other screen thia is a great screen.
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I'm not sure if I understand what you are saying friend [emoji848]
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I'm starting to experience lag and stuttering also. This goes away with a reboot, but I don't really want to be forced to reboot several times a day. I've tried LG's cleaner app and that doesn't help. I've tried enabling the force GPU rendering, and that doesn't help for me either. I'm hoping that future updates help out. This phone is the perfect size and feels so nice in the hand. I really don't want a different phone, so I'm going to wait and see if it gets better.
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@sn0warmy...you can find the stock Google dialer on APK mirror, I posted a link in a thread about the dialer. And you can download the Google Messages app from Google play.
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I'm not sure if I understand what you are saying friend [emoji848]
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He's saying that compared to the Samsung S8/S8+/Note 8 screens, the LG V30 screen doesn't look as good. I do concur with this. I wouldn't go back to the S8 because I much prefer the overall feel and UI of the V30. However, compared to the screen on my S8, the V30's screen looks noticeably washed out. My current long term decision is between the V30 or the Pixel 2 XL, which essentially share the same screen. So this is not much of a consideration for me. However, I could actually see this being a deal breaker for some.
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[/COLOR]@sn0warmy...you can find the stock Google dialer on APK mirror, I posted a link in a thread about the dialer. And you can download the Google Messages app from Google play.
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That's right. Forgot about that. I'll try installing those. I'm just afraid I won't be able to truly replace the stock LG dialer/messages app system wide. But hopefully I'm wrong.
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That's right. Forgot about that. I'll try installing those. I'm just afraid I won't be able to truly replace the stock LG dialer/messages app system wide. But hopefully I'm wrong.
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They do replace the stock LG apps. You just have to make sure and set them as your default dialer and message apps
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I'm starting to experience lag and stuttering also. This goes away with a reboot, but I don't really want to be forced to reboot several times a day. .
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Yeah, it's quite disheartening. I honestly think that if they went with 6GB of RAM, the lag/stuttering would be a non-issue. The lack of 6GB of RAM in these 2017 flagships, including the Pixel 2 XL, really has me scratching my head.
I believe this is the sole reason why the Note 8 (with 6GB RAM) crushes the V30 in Phonebuff's head to head speed tests. For instance, the V30 beats the S8+ (with 4GB RAM) in the same speed test.
If OnePlus can easily do it, LG and Google should be able to, as well.
My G6 has weird, terrible lag sometimes too. A reboot does fix it, but waiting a while sometimes makes it go away too. I know this is a V30 forum, but sad to see this issue persists across these 2 devices. Its not a deal breaker for me, but sure is something that I experience way too often on a 2017 smartphone.
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Yeah, it's quite disheartening. I honestly think that if they went with 6GB of RAM, the lag/stuttering would be a non-issue. The lack of 6GB of RAM in these 2017 flagships, including the Pixel 2 XL, really has me scratching my head.
I believe this is the sole reason why the Note 8 (with 6GB RAM) crushes the V30 in Phonebuff's head to head speed tests. For instance, the V30 beats the S8+ (with 4GB RAM) in the same speed test.
If OnePlus can easily do it, LG and Google should be able to, as well.
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Anyone used both pixel xl and pixel 2 XL thoughts please?

Has anyone used both, any real life differences between the 2 phones. Currently have a pixel xl and it's been a smooth experience so now wandering how much more better the new pixel xl 2 would be.
Bluetooth is a huge improvement. Pixel XL Bluetooth just sucks, very broken.
Screen is a decent size increase which I really like. Black crush is a little worse but liveable. Off angle blue exists but is liveable.
Battery life is amazing.
Stereo front facing speakers are nice.
Camera keeps getting better.
Fastest phone I've ever used.
scottjal said:
Bluetooth is a huge improvement. Pixel XL Bluetooth just sucks, very broken.
Screen is a decent size increase which I really like. Black crush is a little worse but liveable. Off angle blue exists but is liveable.
Battery life is amazing.
Stereo front facing speakers are nice.
Camera keeps getting better.
Fastest phone I've ever used.
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Thanks have you tried the oneplus 5t?
marvi0 said:
Thanks have you tried the oneplus 5t?
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Was mildly interested, but I don't like their track record of software updates plus recent missing crypto libraries and discoveries of old software versions in current 8 release. Tells me there are shortcuts under the hood.
You should check out the HTC U11+ though. It was almost the Pixel 2 XL. Great hardware but won't be in US. No clue what HTC software is like these days though, I just recently started browsing them.
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Was mildly interested, but I don't like their track record of software updates plus recent missing crypto libraries and discoveries of old software versions in current 8 release. Tells me there are shortcuts under the hood.
You should check out the HTC U11+ though. It was almost the Pixel 2 XL. Great hardware but won't be in US. No clue what HTC software is like these days though, I just recently started browsing them.
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Hmm just watched a bunch of videos on YouTube and the multi tasking on the pixel xl 2 appears terrible is that still the case?
Yes the HTC u11 + looks amazing but the company appears to be in trouble.
marvi0 said:
Hmm just watched a bunch of videos on YouTube and the multi tasking on the pixel xl 2 appears terrible is that still the case?
Yes the HTC u11 + looks amazing but the company appears to be in trouble.
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Not that I have ever seen. I even set animation scales to .5 and it still doesn't stutter switching between apps, just goes faster.
HTC has been "in trouble" for years. Business decisions it seems, by all accounts the flagships have been really good for past three years. Just so has everyone else too.
Course everyone says Samsung has fixed their lag issues this/last year. Not sure I believe it but I might at least try one in 18'.
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Was mildly interested, but I don't like their track record of software updates plus recent missing crypto libraries and discoveries of old software versions in current 8 release. Tells me there are shortcuts under the hood.
You should check out the HTC U11+ though. It was almost the Pixel 2 XL. Great hardware but won't be in US. No clue what HTC software is like these days though, I just recently started browsing them.
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Wasn't aware that oneplus was behind the curve in software updates. I found the opposite to be true, especially when beta releases were offered in two flavors (h20 and 02). Not to mention any weakness in the official release we're more than offset with a vibrant dev community.
But then again I was only actively monitoring the oneplus forums during their oneplus 2 and 3 product cycles.
Are things different now?
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samklee said:
Wasn't aware that oneplus was behind the curve in software updates. I found the opposite to be true, especially when beta releases were offered in two flavors (h20 and 02). Not to mention any weakness in the official release we're more than offset with a vibrant dev community.
But then again I was only actively monitoring the oneplus forums during their oneplus 2 and 3 product cycles.
Are things different now?
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It's not that they are behind(which would be fine), but that details get missed like they are rushed (bad). I can't find the thread about nougat libraries or something still present in Oreo, likely not a big deal anyway but why?
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/...ng-for-netflix-google-play-movies-etc.704333/
https://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-project-treble-support-820825/
I'm with them on this one, there is a solid history of partition changes messing up phones.
Anyway my interests moved on and I've never touched a OnePlus, try it is you want.
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Was mildly interested, but I don't like their track record of software updates plus recent missing crypto libraries and discoveries of old software versions in current 8 release. Tells me there are shortcuts under the hood.
You should check out the HTC U11+ though. It was almost the Pixel 2 XL. Great hardware but won't be in US. No clue what HTC software is like these days though, I just recently started browsing them.
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I have a U11 great device but the software sucks very buggy and slow updates. Paying for the camera only
liam_davenport said:
I have a U11 great device but the software sucks very buggy and slow updates. Paying for the camera only
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Well that's not what I wanted to hear. Buggy how?
I think at the moment if price isn't an issue the oneplus in spite of all the shody bussiness they get up to is a much better device. The headphone jack, the extra ram makes it a very worthwhile contender indeed.
liam_davenport said:
I have a U11 great device but the software sucks very buggy and slow updates. Paying for the camera only
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Well that's not what I wanted to hear. Buggy how?
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I wanted a U11 bad until after hearing about how fragile the build of the phone is & the horror stories from owners who had to send in their phones to HTC for repairs & not getting them back until months later. No thanks! [emoji1496]*
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Get the Pixel 2 XL or the SGS9?

So, I want to treat myself with a truly great phone this year. I have my birthday in April, so I need your help. I have a few choices:
1) Get the Pixel 2 XL - THE camera, Awesome battery life, IN-HOUSE software, though sporting a last-gen 835, not the greatest screen
2) Grab the S9 if it's any good - supposedly great camera (SPECULATION, don't be mad, this is just theory), but everything else? It is Samsung, whose last phone I had was an S3 Neo (crappy software). What do you Think? IF the SGS9 is actually better than the pixel, should I get it? Should I trade good, snappy software, for, well, Samsung experience?
3) Wait until the Pixel 3... - Yeah, I really do not want to have this as an option, but here it is. After all, my Z5 is still holding up nicely and I kinda want the iPhone of the Android world (yes, that's the Pixel)
Cheers,
Alex
Security updates, guaranteed project treble and 2 major updates are big selling for me. Plus you know you're going to have one of the best camera this year, and maybe camera keeps improving with updates.
Plus, with the release of pixel 3 and new camera technologies, you might see them ported for the Pixel 2 by some good XDA developers.
I'd only pick the S9 if you like media consumption (a.k.a good screen) or actually like samsung experience.
SpeederT12 said:
So, I want to treat myself with a truly great phone this year. I have my birthday in April, so I need your help. I have a few choices:
1) Get the Pixel 2 XL - THE camera, Awesome battery life, IN-HOUSE software, though sporting a last-gen 835, not the greatest screen
2) Grab the S9 if it's any good - supposedly great camera (SPECULATION, don't be mad, this is just theory), but everything else? It is Samsung, whose last phone I had was an S3 Neo (crappy software). What do you Think? IF the SGS9 is actually better than the pixel, should I get it? Should I trade good, snappy software, for, well, Samsung experience?
3) Wait until the Pixel 3... - Yeah, I really do not want to have this as an option, but here it is. After all, my Z5 is still holding up nicely and I kinda want the iPhone of the Android world (yes, that's the Pixel)
Cheers,
Alex
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Fwiw....it's whatever your the most happy with. Wait until the S9 comes out, and go play with them side by side, and see what you like the best. I'm totally happy with my P2XL, love the ability to root and mod all I want. Having said that, my wife's 8+ is a pleasure to look at. The screen is about as good as it gets, although I'm not a fan of the edge display, and the UI, although beautiful to look at, is just not as smooth as mine. Then there's the updates. If that's important to you, then there's no comparison. I really hope this edge display thing goes away soon, I hate it!!! Not to mention, a phone drop at the right angle, and it's off to the repair shop it goes! Happy hunting ??
Badger50 said:
Fwiw....it's whatever your the most happy with. Wait until the S9 comes out, and go play with them side by side, and see what you like the best. I'm totally happy with my P2XL, love the ability to root and mod all I want. Having said that, my wife's 8+ is a pleasure to look at. The screen is about as good as it gets, although I'm not a fan of the edge display, and the UI, although beautiful to look at, is just not as smooth as mine. Then there's the updates. If that's important to you, then there's no comparison. I really hope this edge display thing goes away soon, I hate it!!! Not to mention, a phone drop at the right angle, and it's off to the repair shop it goes! Happy hunting ??
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Yeah, there's the problem - playing with them. I live in Bulgaria, Which means I haven't seen a Pixel 2 Irl and there's nowhere to play around with one. We shall see, the pixel 2 xl is really pulling me in, is it bad that It'll already be superseded when I buy it?
SpeederT12 said:
Yeah, there's the problem - playing with them. I live in Bulgaria, Which means I haven't seen a Pixel 2 Irl and there's nowhere to play around with one. We shall see, the pixel 2 xl is really pulling me in, is it bad that It'll already be superseded when I buy it?
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Bulgaria huh...yeah I can see that as potentially problematic! ? Lets face it my friend, it's the tech world. The minute we buy something, it's old news 6 months latter! Good thing is, if you do get the P2XL, you'll have the latest software updates for 3 years! Decisions, decisions, what to do?? I kinda miss the day's of the flip phone being the norm. Decisions were much easier then ?
Well anything Samsung is gonna have laggier Samsung experience and very slow updates
Personal preference
Do you want stock Android or TouchWiz
Do you want fast updates or not
I like getting new features/updates quickly and for a long time and am allergic to TouchWiz from the S3Neo times. Though it might have changed now.
Imo the choice consists of deciding what's most important for you: having the latest available hardware for 12 months or having the latest available software for 2-3 years
Personally I came to the conclusion that I would be happier with a phone that is slightly slower in benchmarks (but still crazy fast in real life usage) and a phone that runs the latest available and closest to "stock Android" version possible.
I have no doubt the S9+ will be a terrific phone, but after many years using Sammy devices I got bored I felt I needed a more "pure" user experience, I never regretted doing the switch
Phones are so fast these days that I don't think there's that much benefits in upgrading every year to have the newest SoC possible. On the other hand choosing the software/user experience that is the best for you makes a big difference in the long run
Go with pixel 2. I haven't even touched my note 8. And I loved that phone
Your call,the Pixel 2 is here now, and the others have yet to be released....
This is why I always get phones within a month of release. You'll forever have "But in a few months the next [phone] will be released" in your mind. By the time the S9 is out, the Pixel 2XL will be 5-6 months "old" which will still be doing well but the S9 will have the latest and greatest hardware at the time. If vanilla vs skinned isn't a big deal for you, just wait it out for the S9 then. But if you think you're Z5 will do until the fall, then Pixel 3.
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EeZeEpEe said:
This is why I always get phones within a month of release. You'll forever have "But in a few months the next [phone] will be released" in your mind. By the time the S9 is out, the Pixel 2XL will be 5-6 months "old" which will still be doing well but the S9 will have the latest and greatest hardware at the time. If vanilla vs skinned isn't a big deal for you, just wait it out for the S9 then. But if you think you're Z5 will do until the fall, then Pixel 3.
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I do not know, I've had some pretty bad experiences with TouchWiz before, so I want to taste Android as it was meant to be. Besides, I'll be travelling a lot this summer so I'll need a better phone. I think I might as well go with the 2XL. Next thing, where do I get it? :d With me being in Bulgaria, the only choices are asking relatives to import from the UK/Germany. Are they sold in physical shops (not hooked to network providers though)? I might not get a chance to import it from the States, so I'm stuck with the higher European prices.
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I do not know, I've had some pretty bad experiences with TouchWiz before, so I want to taste Android as it was meant to be. Besides, I'll be travelling a lot this summer so I'll need a better phone. I think I might as well go with the 2XL. Next thing, where do I get it? :d With me being in Bulgaria, the only choices are asking relatives to import from the UK/Germany. Are they sold in physical shops (not hooked to network providers though)? I might not get a chance to import it from the States, so I'm stuck with the higher European prices.
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Sounds like you are stuck with the European prices. Only available in store through Verizon wireless carrier. Everyone else gets it through the Google Store.
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SpeederT12 said:
So, I want to treat myself with a truly great phone this year. I have my birthday in April, so I need your help. I have a few choices:
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Cheers,
Alex
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bajasur said:
Personal preference
Do you want stock Android or TouchWiz
Do you want fast updates or not
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What HE^^^^^^ said!
Not only that, the 2 XL is already seeing development, and is new enough, IF the S9 turns out to be something you really want, the 2 XL will still bring a good resale price to apply toward the S9.
I can't imagine anything coming out this year will blow away the 2 XL. The 2 XL is a really great device!
SpeederT12 said:
I do not know, I've had some pretty bad experiences with TouchWiz before, so I want to taste Android as it was meant to be. Besides, I'll be travelling a lot this summer so I'll need a better phone. I think I might as well go with the 2XL. Next thing, where do I get it? :d With me being in Bulgaria, the only choices are asking relatives to import from the UK/Germany. Are they sold in physical shops (not hooked to network providers though)? I might not get a chance to import it from the States, so I'm stuck with the higher European prices.
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I bought mine on eBay, couldnt wait, came from Ireland with stupid UK plug + adapter, but the seller is a German business
So far no problems, some blue tint that realy doesnt bother me, no burn-in nor bad speakers :good:
SpeederT12 said:
So, I want to treat myself with a truly great phone this year. I have my birthday in April, so I need your help. I have a few choices:
1) Get the Pixel 2 XL - THE camera, Awesome battery life, IN-HOUSE software, though sporting a last-gen 835, not the greatest screen
2) Grab the S9 if it's any good - supposedly great camera (SPECULATION, don't be mad, this is just theory), but everything else? It is Samsung, whose last phone I had was an S3 Neo (crappy software). What do you Think? IF the SGS9 is actually better than the pixel, should I get it? Should I trade good, snappy software, for, well, Samsung experience?
3) Wait until the Pixel 3... - Yeah, I really do not want to have this as an option, but here it is. After all, my Z5 is still holding up nicely and I kinda want the iPhone of the Android world (yes, that's the Pixel)
Cheers,
Alex
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What is more important to you - the software or the hardware?
I stayed away from the Googles-devices because of the hardware: No SD card slot, no replaceable battery, the new ones don't have an analog audio output, there are phones with better screens on the market...
But my Samsung Galaxy S4 was the last phone I owned where you could install AOSP-based ROMs and enjoy all the features. the LG G5 would run only with the stock ROM if you wanted to actually use all of its features. LOS-based ROMs were full of bugs and gaps, like bluetooth not working. Also, the device has only a few developers because nowadays developers focus on OnePlus and Google devices.
So I had to flash the LG ROM, then the GApps and then remove all the LG apps.
At the end each upgrade took me an evening and I had still the LG ROM with all of its downsides, stuck at Android 7.0.
With the Pixel 2 XL, i get an update every month. I can install it easily without wasting time. The software is also top notch, for the first time in my life I have an Android phone without feeling the need to install a custom ROM. There is no bloat. The camera is fantastic.
So all in all, the Pixel 2 XL is the best phone I ever owned - for my personal needs.
But if you value e.g. an SD-card slot or an analog audio port higher than the software, go for the Samsung. It's your choice, but I would take the Pixel
I have Galaxy s8 + with Samsung experience 9.0 and I can tell you that isn't not bad at all but...
Faster updates, stock Android, really fast experience when you use it and the camera... My goodness... Google pixel 2 XL it's a beast.
And think that Android P it's arriving very soon and to Samsung maybe next year LOL
by the way I have a iPhone x too and try to know witch one it's my dayli driver ????? Yes Google pixel 2 XL

Which watch

What's going to be the best watch for Pixel thinking about going with the Galaxy watch but I don't know how well they woul work together
The Galaxy watch works best with a Samsung phone user especially if they are actually using Samsung software. It's got great multiple day battery life, doesn't look cheap.
Ticwatch Pro has it's secondary display so it can go into it's super low power mode. It does very little in that mode and I didn't find it of any use but if your itinerary includes setting off on a 10 day camping trip with 20% watch battery remaining having forgot to charge it's the only smart watch that will still be lit up after that ten days. It does have legitimate all of a long day power though which with Android is really the best you can hope for unless you get the Galaxy watch. Overall this watch is my preferred watch over the 2 I've mentioned so far and the next one.
Fossil sport gives you the latest but still old Wear OS processor. It doesn't help in any way I could discern with performance or battery life. Comes in two sizes but only the bezel gets bigger, screen remains the same. I liked this one but nothing much about it stands out.
So those are the ones I've tried recently. I'd go Ticwatch Pro if choosing among them. The Galaxy is the best hardware hands down but you have a very limited app selection and it works best with Samsung phones which I don't have right now. I don't have much bad to say about the Fossil but don't have much good to say about it either. It lacks the Ticwatch party trick and in my use had slightly worse battery life.
jmcandrews83 said:
What's going to be the best watch for Pixel thinking about going with the Galaxy watch but I don't know how well they woul work together
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Best watch is the Samsung Galaxy! It will work perfect! I have one.
I am thinking about getting 3a XL. I do love my Nexus 6, but 3a, might be faster.
As much as I prefer wear OS over tizen, I will say that my Galaxy S3 classic works pretty well. The battery life is decent, having Samsung pay is nice without bogging down my phone software, and app support has gotten better. If it weren't for the abysmal battery life and decent selections for decent wear OS devices, I would be on one in a heartbeat. I had the ZTE quartz from T-Mobile, which was actually a pretty great watch for the price, but we all know what happened with ZTE and software updates are non-existent sadly, and it seems 3rd party development has halted entirely.
Tizen is really the only decent software offering right now, considering the hardware it runs on. Hopefully, Google can convince oems to make more decent wear OS devices, but I'm not holding my breath for it, sadly.
Galaxy watch has better battery life over s3. Over anything and is the most water proof.
I got lucky. Almost bought an S3. SO glad I didn't!
Been using my huawei smartwatch2 with 3axl. No issues yet and all notifications seem to be working fine
Dixon Butz said:
Best watch is the Samsung Galaxy! It will work perfect! I have one.
I am thinking about getting 3a XL. I do love my Nexus 6, but 3a, might be faster.
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make the upgrade, my nexus 6 is running pie and tbh its about as fast as my moto g6(slower than it depending on the app)
luigi90210 said:
make the upgrade, my nexus 6 is running pie and tbh its about as fast as my moto g6(slower than it depending on the app)
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I will most likely get one very soon. It's in my cart. Still no TWRP. Unicorn ROM is available. Can be rooted. The thing that scares me is the bad reviews on the screen. Dimmer than a regular Pixel and not very good image quality some say.
Android Q beta available for all Pixel devices.
Nasty bug in Q for Samsung Galaxy watch plugin though.
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/135123639
Dixon Butz said:
I will most likely get one very soon. It's in my cart. Still no TWRP. Unicorn ROM is available. Can be rooted. The thing that scares me is the bad reviews on the screen. Dimmer than a regular Pixel and not very good image quality some say.
Android Q beta available for all Pixel devices.
Nasty bug in Q for Samsung Galaxy watch plugin though.
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/135123639
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twrp is being worked on and should be released unofficially soon(look in the twrp thread)
the screen is fine tbh and honestly until twrp is out im sticking to rooted stock as its the easiest to deal with, i personally dont have any issues with the screen, its plenty bright outside in direct sunlight and the thing is color calibrated from the factory also image quality meaning pictures? if so then it's literally the same camera module as the pixel 3/xl just without that image processor so snapchat can't use hdr+ enhanced but the google camera can still so its really a non issue
just go to a tmobile store or verizon store or best buy and check the phone out(assuming you are in the states) before buying it yourself, frankly im getting tired of seeing notches and pin holes in displays so i mainly got the 3a xl just because it didnt have those and the fact that its a google phone(so i know its gonna be a decent buy regardless)
luigi90210 said:
make the upgrade, my nexus 6 is running pie and tbh its about as fast as my moto g6(slower than it depending on the app)
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Snagged a new 3aXL 400 us beans! No tax! FS!
Will be in hand tomorrow Monday the 24th
What a great ****ing phone! HUGE upgrade over Nexus 6. Lovve it!! Display is great!!

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