Hi guys,
I'm currently in the market for a new Phone and have narrowed it down to either the OP3(T) or the ZTE Axon 7.
After watching the announcement for the OP3T yesterday I fear that either devs will stay with the original OP3 and neglect the new one, or the other way around.
My guess is that since the phones are very similar, it wouldn't take too much time to port the current roms for the OP3 to the OP3T.
I have the same fear about the Axon 7 and its two versions for the US and EU (I'm from Germany so I would get later updates and possibly less community development).
Are there any statements from the devs working on the OP3 about wether they will support the OP3T aswell?
I had the axon 7 and send it back due no dev support.
No custom Rom available and it won't be much in future.
Also eu version I a 2nd class device compared with us support...
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Peccadilloz said:
Hi guys,
I'm currently in the market for a new Phone and have narrowed it down to either the OP3(T) or the ZTE Axon 7.
After watching the announcement for the OP3T yesterday I fear that either devs will stay with the original OP3 and neglect the new one, or the other way around.
My guess is that since the phones are very similar, it wouldn't take too much time to port the current roms for the OP3 to the OP3T.
I have the same fear about the Axon 7 and its two versions for the US and EU (I'm from Germany so I would get later updates and possibly less community development).
Are there any statements from the devs working on the OP3 about wether they will support the OP3T aswell?
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Oneplus has already released resources for Oneplus 3T and since the hardware in both phones is not very different, the development should be good for both the devices, i think.
Hey everyone, I'm debating upgrading to xiaomi from my note 4. I could need some help deciding.
I don't really care which snapdragon it is. Both the 820 and 821 are a massive upgrade from my note and that's doing everything fine.
I'd like something smaller, but have no problem with 5,7" if there are benefits to it.
I'd like the opportunity for some kind of stockish rom. I don't flash daily anymore and am very familiar with miui since the original htc desire days. So miui is fine, but having the opportunity to go for lineage or aosp if i feel that way would be great.
So basically:
mi5s, mi5 or mi5s plus?
The mi5 64GB comes in at 277€
The mi5s 64GB is 307€
The mi5s Plus 64GB is 357€
Edit: I might also throw the Note 2 into the discussion. It's 200€ more expensive, but the bigger battery and the epic looks really are attractive.
My open questions: there is basically no development for the mi5s atm. Is there something to be expected? Is the mi5 still competitive or is it slowly eol? And for all options: Is the Ram upgrade to 4/6GB worth the price tag or is 3/4GB fine for you?
Any input to help me decide is greatly appreciated:good:
Mi5 has better camera for video (thanks to OIS) than Mi5s, otherwise they are very similar. Mi5 is longer out and thus has more chances for a custom rom. It does look like there will be some CM support (or whatever it is now called) for the Mi5s, there is one build here in the forum.
No idea about the 5s Plus.
Memory management is hard to say, but Android loves to have ram, so in general it's better to have more than less. Then again, this really depends on the ROM too.
domsch1988 said:
Hey everyone, I'm debating upgrading to xiaomi from my note 4. I could need some help deciding.
I don't really care which snapdragon it is. Both the 820 and 821 are a massive upgrade from my note and that's doing everything fine.
I'd like something smaller, but have no problem with 5,7" if there are benefits to it.
I'd like the opportunity for some kind of stockish rom. I don't flash daily anymore and am very familiar with miui since the original htc desire days. So miui is fine, but having the opportunity to go for lineage or aosp if i feel that way would be great.
So basically:
mi5s, mi5 or mi5s plus?
The mi5 64GB comes in at 277€
The mi5s 64GB is 307€
The mi5s Plus 64GB is 357€
Edit: I might also throw the Note 2 into the discussion. It's 200€ more expensive, but the bigger battery and the epic looks really are attractive.
My open questions: there is basically no development for the mi5s atm. Is there something to be expected? Is the mi5 still competitive or is it slowly eol? And for all options: Is the Ram upgrade to 4/6GB worth the price tag or is 3/4GB fine for you?
Any input to help me decide is greatly appreciated:good:
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If the screen doesn't bother you, I would buy the mi5.
: Better camera
Cm support
Deeper development here in XDA
PS: I have the mi5s plus 6gb 128 and I'm stuck in MIUI that I don't like very much. I going to continue to use my axon 7 until he has cm support
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nelnel002 said:
If the screen doesn't bother you, I would buy the mi5.
: Better camera
Cm support
Deeper development here in XDA
PS: I have the mi5s plus 6gb 128 and I'm stuck in MIUI that I don't like very much. I going to continue to use my axon 7 until he has cm support
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Mi5 doesn't have better camera than mi5s!
The mi5 has OIS but apart of that nothing else is better. The MI5s camera makes much better photos.
In fact it's so fast that I almost never have to make a photo twice, I very rarely get a blurry picture.
I would get mi5s 64GB. The materials are much better.
CM is still WIP but when Xiaomi releases the kernel sources it will be a much better phone.
With the recent Stable Global rom it goes like butter, didn't notice any problems.
By the way, the MI5 is 257$, the 64GB mi5s is 288$ and the 128GB is 348$
Check there:
https://goldway.aliexpress.com/store/311331
I'm with @dabyd64.
Mi5s has better construction than Mi5 (Aluminum vs Ceramic).
Mi5s is a little heavier (around 15g) and around 1mm bigger at 3 axis (difficult to tell a diference side by side).
Mi5s and Google Pixel have the same camera sensor, one of best as today.
Mi5s take better photos and regarding video Mi5s have EIS (at 1080) that is working better than Mi5 with OIS.
It could be better if Xiaomi invest on image processing algoritm like google did on pixel mobile.
Right now, Mi5 has better comunity support because was released first, more users, and kernel sources already released by Xiaomi.
I doubt Mi5s will have better support than Mi5, but i'm pretty sure we get the major roms.
Mi5 has infrared and could work as a remote control, this is the unique feature loss on Mi5s.
For me, Mi5s all the way. I would avoid Mi5s plus, if you really want a proper dual camera implementation -> Huawei P9.
We have to understand that a dual camera solution is all about image processing. For me, Xiaomi implementation was a failure.
If you need 5.5" screen size i would go for oneplus 3t.
Mi Note 2 has an oled 5.7" curved screen with te same 1080 resolution, so lower pixel density.
I really hate curved screens, and it's a pain to protect those devices.
It has a bigger battery, but generally bigger screen more consume, on the other hand oled consume less than lcd, you have to analyse sot.
200€ more relatively to 300€ it's significative, i would say put 200€ aside for a new one later on.
Not OP, but I would like to say thanks to @BPSoft and the other people who answered this question, as I'm in the same boat right now. Want to upgrade from my Mi4, and considering Mi5 and Mi5s. But the price is too close.
Do you think it is worth waiting for Mi5s price to drop a little bit more before buying? I am not very keen on using it with MIUI8 (jury's out for future MIUI 9), so I would be waiting for a custom ROM (CM, AOSP, ...). What do you think?
Custom, somewhat stable, ROM could be a way off for the Mi 5s, as the kernel source hasn't been released yet. At least there is a global rom now for the Mi 5s, but I'm not sure if that can be bought preinstalled. Not a big thing, but maybe waiting one more week (until CES is over) might mean a tiny bit lower prices.
Mi5s is at its lowest price ever, though (about 265€ for me). So many decisions... but I think i'll go for it.
Even if not preinstalled you can always unlock bootloader and install the global ROM, corect?
This is correct. Actually, if you run the official China build, you can simply download the Recovery Rom to the phone, open the Updater app, select the rom and it will flash it. No unlock needed. Works also with some, but not all, "shop roms" (globalized non official builds).
I want to thank everyone who gave their opinions. It's much appreciated.
So, if its xiaomi, mi5s it's going to be.
Currently the axon 7 is an option too. But, i'm debating squeezing some life out of the note 4 and waiting for those sd835 phones to hit the market. Might be mid year, that those come. And sure enough xiaomi will have a new mi with this SoC. Then, either it's cheap enough or the mi5s will get even cheaper... decisions, decisions.
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Currently the axon 7 is an option too.
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For a 5.5" screen size, i prefer Oneplus 3T, huge support here at XDA, 6GB Ram, SD821 instead of SD820, 64/128GB internal space, but without sd card support.
See here for a comparison:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8416&idPhone2=8067&idPhone3=7260
Regarding photo quality:
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=8416&idPhone2=8067&idPhone3=7260
As you can see 20Mpx says nothing about picture quality :cyclops:
domsch1988 said:
But, i'm debating squeezing some life out of the note 4 and waiting for those sd835 phones to hit the market. Might be mid year, that those come. And sure enough xiaomi will have a new mi with this SoC. Then, either it's cheap enough or the mi5s will get even cheaper... decisions, decisions.
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I'm more optimistic, i expect "Mi6" release at March, like it was with Mi5. SD835 is expected. If i could, i would wait!
dabyd64 said:
Mi5 doesn't have better camera than mi5s!
The mi5 has OIS but apart of that nothing else is better. The MI5s camera makes much better photos.
In fact it's so fast that I almost never have to make a photo twice, I very rarely get a blurry picture.
I would get mi5s 64GB. The materials are much better.
CM is still WIP but when Xiaomi releases the kernel sources it will be a much better phone.
With the recent Stable Global rom it goes like butter, didn't notice any problems.
By the way, the MI5 is 257$, the 64GB mi5s is 288$ and the 128GB is 348$
Check there:
https://goldway.aliexpress.com/store/311331
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So it depends if you want OIS or faster capture. For my opinion cm development to mi5s Will take some time, soon we will have the mi6, so that's always the same thing , when we have some development there's another upgraded device that came out. We'll stay stock whit MIUI .
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domsch1988 said:
I want to thank everyone who gave their opinions. It's much appreciated.
So, if its xiaomi, mi5s it's going to be.
Currently the axon 7 is an option too. But, i'm debating squeezing some life out of the note 4 and waiting for those sd835 phones to hit the market. Might be mid year, that those come. And sure enough xiaomi will have a new mi with this SoC. Then, either it's cheap enough or the mi5s will get even cheaper... decisions, decisions.
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I have axon 7 too and it's my daily driver, that's another league. QHD AMOLED,3250mah battery, not stock but almost whit some nice features, stereo speakers whit Dolby Atmos, nice camera I would say a little better than op3. nice materials and naugat to the end of January.
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What I really liked is the screen / size ratio, I think it's one of the 'smaller' phones which still has really good specs, decent screen and of course dual sim.
domsch1988 said:
I want to thank everyone who gave their opinions. It's much appreciated.
So, if its xiaomi, mi5s it's going to be.
Currently the axon 7 is an option too. But, i'm debating squeezing some life out of the note 4 and waiting for those sd835 phones to hit the market. Might be mid year, that those come. And sure enough xiaomi will have a new mi with this SoC. Then, either it's cheap enough or the mi5s will get even cheaper... decisions, decisions.
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I'm going to do the exact same, wait for SD835 and if i don't think it's worth it ill buy a cheaper mi5s
What phone are you going onto next? I was considering the Galaxy S8 but the rear fingerprint scanner has spoilt it for me. I understand the reasons... Small bezels etc... But still...
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One plus 4? Or 5 if OP skips the 4. The dev community is why. My other phone is a note 5, there aren't many roms available , and there are so many variants of the phone that most of them don't work on mine. While people here are whining that OOS is only on 7.0 I can't even get a stable nougat rom for my 920w. With 1+ I can get two seperate ROMs from OP plus many custom ROMs some of which are bleeding edge nightlies. It's also about half the price of a Samsung device, and the dual sims are a must for me.
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What phone are you going onto next? I was considering the Galaxy S8 but the rear fingerprint scanner has spoilt it for me. I understand the reasons... Small bezels etc... But still...
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No Oneplus any More. They dispoint me... Cz now they are not Friendly with devs... The don't publish Camera bolbs/ right source ? bla bla bla.. They think their phone camera best!! so they don't publish it.. Every Custom rom lost camera Quility!! AND many bugs!! Its not our devs problem.. its a problem of oneplus now a days
Next OnePlus phone, most likely
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Going to Pixel XL I have blue on pre order releases on Friday here. Won't buy OnePlus again
Probably the pixel 2 but never gonna buy oneplus again
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I'm not sure I see what the problem is with OnePlus? It would be nice if they released camera blobs but that's their choice if not.
The OP3 is a great phone. I liked the idea of the Pixel but not for the price. Being waterproof might have swayed me but it's not
Not sure when OP will have another phone.
I'll still likely get the S8! A lot of phones seem to have rear fingerprint sensors now. Huawei, LG, New Samsung and even pixel.
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I'll take it from another perspective and tell you which I'm not going to consider:
- Samsung (for trashy closed-system)
- Pixel (for marketing efforts to play Apple prices while still offering a dull-looking device), and very negative community
- ZTE (for sleezy behavior when it came to offering bootloader unlock exclusive to US at the beginning)
- Any overpriced phone with gimmicky features/functions (iris scanners, double cameras, quintillion-pixel density screens, etc.)
Soo... that doesn't leave much to choose from anyway.
Hi
I'm a CM/Lineage user since 2012, I'm currently using a M8 with LOS14.1 but I need a new phone and having a Lineage Official Rom is a must for me. It obviously needs to be better than the one I have right now (specially the camera and battery) and the rom bug free.
I've been looking into the left bar on the downloads page trying to figure out the best phones running LOS officially but it's not easy, there are too many phones and opening the threads to figure out if the rom is stable or not, then searching for specs and prices takes a lot of time, if someone could help me I would really appreciate it.
Moto z, x pure, x play, g4, in that order!
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Thanks. X pure (or style in my area) wasn't in my list but I will definitely check it out. Better camera, best SOC, screen, bigger battery, I can keep the front facing speakers and save a few bucks.
The Z is not an option, it's over my budget and I'm not a fan of the design.
How about Xiaomi Mi5
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How about Xiaomi Mi5
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The Mi5 was my first option, I ordered one two day ago but I had to cancel the order when I noticed the lack of LTE band20, it is completely useless in my area.
Hi guys, just got a used Oneplus 3 from eBay, from a phones refurb company and the were selling as the regular OP3, but I thought I was going to get the 3T, thinking they did not know what they had in hand the color is gunmetal, I compared with a friends OP3 and mine is gunmetal for sure, much darker then the OP3. Now looking at the specs on AIDA64, they do match the OP3, SD 820, 16Mpx on the back and 8Mpx on the front, so now I have 3 questions, number 1, is there a gunmetal version of the OP3? number 2, if they flashed the OP3 through the unbrick guide (here) whill the app AIDA64 read the hardware specs from the drivers on this ROM? meaning that it would think it is the OP3 specs, but it could possibly be the OP3t? And number 3, what would happen if I follow the the OP3T unbrick guide (here) on this device, which I have no Idea what it is xD
Thanks for your time guys and sorry for this messy questions, but really not sure which model I have right now =P
UPDATE: Tried to flash the OP3T unbrick ROM and guess I do have the OP3 just with the Gunmetal color... Was there a gunmetal OP3? Or did the seeler changed it?
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UPDATE: Tried to flash the OP3T unbrick ROM and guess I do have the OP3 [emoji14] just with the Gunmetal color... Was there a gunmetal OP3? Or did the seeler changed it?
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OP3 with gunmetal does not exist, so I'd guess they simply put OP3 hardware into a 3T body. Probably had a bunch of damaged phones and combined useful stuff.
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Explorer23 said:
OP3 with gunmetal does not exist, so I'd guess they simply put OP3 hardware into a 3T body. Probably had a bunch of damaged phtones and combined useful stuff.
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My thoughts exactly, ok, now I have the S7 Edge (Exynos) and the OP3, comparing both right now, but I'll probably sell the OP3, the S7 Edge feels a lot better in hand IMO, far supperior screen and camera is much better, the only thing OP3 has that I really like is the software, but my S7 Edge has a custom ROM based on Stock, installed the Pixel Launcher and now it feels just like a Pixel now
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My thoughts exactly, ok, now I have the S7 Edge (Exynos) and the OP3, comparing both right now, but I'll probably sell the OP3, the S7 Edge feels a lot better in hand IMO, far supperior screen and camera is much better, the only thing OP3 has that I really like is the software, but my S7 Edge has a custom ROM based on Stock, installed the Pixel Launcher and now it feels just like a Pixel now
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Yeah, if you put a custom ROM (i.e. Get rid of TouchWiz) on S7 it's definitely a better device. I love my OP3, but if money wasn't an issue I'd probably go for S7 (Plus).
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