I jumped from Lollipop right into Nougat, so this may have been the same in MM. I can't figure out the best way to use my SD card on Nougat. If the option is chosen for separate media storage, can that space also be used for apps?
I currently have it set for shared storage, but a couple of my sideloaded apps aren't working correctly. I SHOULD have 32 gb tablet + 64 gb SD card = 96 GB usable (after subtracting a random handful of GB for all the system stuff). When going to the storage tab in the settings menu, it gets really strange:
DEVICE STORAGE SUMMARY
15.39 GB total used of 29.12 GB
INTERNAL SHARED STORAGE
4.07 GB used of 29.12 GB
SD CARD
-16.08 GB used of 29.12 GB
Is this a known Nougat bug, or have I somehow done something wrong? All I did was put in the memory card and make the selection to format as shared storage before starting to use it.
My preference would be to use the card as purely external. Going that route, the PC interface would show both the tablet as well as the card so I could better control what files got put where. As it is, the card is all that shows in the PC file manager. My other preference is to be able to remove the card from this tablet and simply move to another with minimal re-work required. The format process popped a warning about the shared card working ONLY with the current device.
I am WAY confused here. Can someone give me some notes or point to separate thread with some good reading? Thanks!
~Vol
Let me rephrase into a way simpler question.
IF I format my SD as an external media as opposed to internal shared, will I be able to use some of the card's space for apps?
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Is there an option where I can choose between saving apps or photos into either the USB storage or device memory partition?
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I'm interested in this as well. I've moved media files to the external sd card and the phone doesn't see them. System info widget is only showing 1.67 GB internal storage while I know that can't be right. Still trying to figure out storage on this device. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
GadgetMonger said:
I'm interested in this as well. I've moved media files to the external sd card and the phone doesn't see them. System info widget is only showing 1.67 GB internal storage while I know that can't be right. Still trying to figure out storage on this device. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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For me, after I unplug the USB cable, it goes through a "Media Scan," and items that I had on the external SD Card are imported (at least ringers and notifications)... But I can't seem to get it to actually DO anything with the REAL SD Card... The phone thinks that the SD Card is the internal storage on the phone (the PHONE partition).
I copied some movie files over to the sd card to play them with Moobo, but there doesn't seem to be a way to navigate to them. I had to copy them to the PHONE partition.
Dalmus said:
For me, after I unplug the USB cable, it goes through a "Media Scan," and items that I had on the external SD Card are imported (at least ringers and notifications)... But I can't seem to get it to actually DO anything with the REAL SD Card... The phone thinks that the SD Card is the internal storage on the phone (the PHONE partition).
I copied some movie files over to the sd card to play them with Moobo, but there doesn't seem to be a way to navigate to them. I had to copy them to the PHONE partition.
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Hmmm... I don't think my device is working that way if it's supposed to. I put my ringers and pictures on the external sd, but they didn't get imported. They weren't there when I tried setting a ringtone and the pics weren't in my gallery. I did get the media scan. I just assumed that it was an antivirus app? And my phone definitely isn't seeing my sd card as internal storage. My card is practically empty yet I'm only showing 1.67 GB internal storage. Of course that could be a problem with the widget, but it does drop if I install anything from the market.
GadgetMonger said:
Hmmm... I don't think my device is working that way if it's supposed to. I put my ringers and pictures on the external sd, but they didn't get imported. They weren't there when I tried setting a ringtone and the pics weren't in my gallery. I did get the media scan. I just assumed that it was an antivirus app? And my phone definitely isn't seeing my sd card as internal storage. My card is practically empty yet I'm only showing 1.67 GB internal storage. Of course that could be a problem with the widget, but it does drop if I install anything from the market.
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On your SD card, do you have the ringers and notifications in the proper directory tree? Its got to be /media/audio/ringers or /media/audio/notifications
As for free space, when you go to SETTINGS ->STORAGE you should see THREE subsections... The first is your physical SD card, the second is "USB storage" which is the internal space you get to play with, and the third is "Device" storage, which is apparently 2GB instead of the 1GB as advertised.
Mine is working as expected.
SD card = 14.92 Total Available 11.68 GB (have a lot of photos, music videos and songs)
USB or Internal = 11.50 Total Available = 11.38 CB
Device Memory = 1.60 GB
The difference between actual and stated is for the hidden system files I guess.
does anyone have an answer to my original question?
Dalmus said:
On your SD card, do you have the ringers and notifications in the proper directory tree? Its got to be /media/audio/ringers or /media/audio/notifications
As for free space, when you go to SETTINGS ->STORAGE you should see THREE subsections... The first is your physical SD card, the second is "USB storage" which is the internal space you get to play with, and the third is "Device" storage, which is apparently 2GB instead of the 1GB as advertised.
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As for the ringers, yup. The phone recognizes them when they're on the root of the card, just not in external sd.
And yes I did find storage in settings. Nothing matches up with what the widget shows so... That makes 2 or three apps that I regularly use that aren't working right on this phone.
The internal memory still seems low to me though. In settings it's showing 1.77 GB. I guess the problem here is that I'm not understanding how to use the storage available. On my 3d I have internal phone which is at almost 6 GB with around 100 apps installed. Never have used app to sd applications. My sd card is a 16 GB and its loaded down to about 7 GB free. Music, pics and ringtones all go to the SD card and the phone reads the files and uses them accordingly.
My GSII has about 50 apps and is showing 1.77 GB free, but that drops whenever I download a new app. So it seems as though if I approach 100 apps I'll run out of internal memory. No? That means I have no choice but to use an app to sd application?
GadgetMonger said:
My GSII has about 50 apps and is showing 1.77 GB free, but that drops whenever I download a new app. So it seems as though if I approach 100 apps I'll run out of internal memory. No? That means I have no choice but to use an app to sd application?
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I believe there's 16gb of total storage on the phone.
2gb is reserved for apps.
14gb is reserved for OS and "other" such as photos, media, etc...
If you go into Settings-> Applications -> Manage Applications and select an App that you downloaded, you'll get the option to move the App to the SD card. You might try that.
Cheers
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Is there an option where I can choose between saving apps or photos into either the USB storage or device memory partition?
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Apps go to your 2gb partition and photos and music will go to the usb partition. You can move stuff from the usb partition to your as card. I downloaded ringtones and moved them to my as card and they work fine. As far as apps go if u download apps2sd supposidly u can move an apps to usb storage that way if u run out of your 2gb.
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musclehead84 said:
Apps go to your 2gb partition and photos and music will go to the usb partition. You can move stuff from the usb partition to your as card. I downloaded ringtones and moved them to my as card and they work fine. As far as apps go if u download apps2sd supposidly u can move an apps to usb storage that way if u run out of your 2gb.
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The problem is that once you move things to the SD card, you can't access them anymore, at least not from inside any apps that I've seen.
I'd love to put a bunch of MP3's and .AVI's on the SD card so I can play them, but none of the movie apps have an option to look at the SD card... Or rather, the CLAIM they look at the SD card, but really they're looking at the internal memory of the phone, not the actual SD card.
I have all of my media (mp3s and videos) on my external SD and they are being read just fine. Most apps will let you specify what location your media is stored. I use Mobo player and it lets you choose where the media directory is, even multiple directories. I use my external SD card so i point to: /mnt/sdcard/externa_sd/what ever folder name you want
Dalmus said:
The problem is that once you move things to the SD card, you can't access them anymore, at least not from inside any apps that I've seen.
I'd love to put a bunch of MP3's and .AVI's on the SD card so I can play them, but none of the movie apps have an option to look at the SD card... Or rather, the CLAIM they look at the SD card, but really they're looking at the internal memory of the phone, not the actual SD card.
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i have a question about memory on my phone..
SD card = 7.40GB / 5.38GB free
INternalStorage = 6.4GB / 6.17GB Free?
phone memory = 748MB / 83.7MB free..
how can i utilize the Internal Storage? for contacts perhaps or pics, movies, music, aps?
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Use a file explorer like Astro or ES File Explorer to manually place files (pics, movies, music) on the internal memory. Otherwise, plug your phone into a computer and place the files onto the internal memory. Courtesy of HTC, apps save to the "Phone Memory" using 150 mb's of the 748 mb. The main alternate save location for apps is the sd card thus the reason there is a "Move to sd card" option within each app's settings under "Settings/Applications/Manage Applications."
SlimSnoopOS said:
Use a file explorer like Astro or ES File Explorer to manually place files (pics, movies, music) on the internal memory. Otherwise, plug your phone into a computer and place the files onto the internal memory. Courtesy of HTC, apps save to the "Phone Memory" using 150 mb's of the 748 mb. The main alternate save location for apps is the sd card thus the reason there is a "Move to sd card" option within each app's settings under "Settings/Applications/Manage Applications."
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i have done it threw the computer before.. and i have a file manager.. but it only see the one SD card.. the extrnal one..
the computer sees the 2 Different Cards..
but when i try to find the internal SD card threw a file managers on the phone i can not see where it is.. i see it in settings... but when ever i try to use a file manager or ap manager it only gives me the external card to move aps to?
The 6 GB's of internal memory is listed as "emmc" and is inaccessible only if the rom dev says so. I'm not sure you are searching for the proper term, are you able to see "emmc" within your file manager? I took a look at Wildstang's Desired HD thread and his latest version supports emmc (internal memory). If I recall correctly, earlier versions did not have access to internal GB (the 6GB's of space) because the port is from a phone with no internal storage but this is no longer the case. You should be able to move photos, videos, music to emmc especially since you said have access to it via your computer.
1) Are you on his latest update?
2) What specifically are you asking for help with (moving apps or simply accessing that space)?
Edit: For moving apps, the most I know is that you can move apps to sd or back to your phone. In regards to expanding the 150mb partition of your internal memory, I have no experience doing so. Hopefully someone else can provide input on this.
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The 6 GB's of internal memory is listed as "emmc" and is inaccessible only if the rom dev says so. I'm not sure you are searching for the proper term, are you able to see "emmc" within your file manager? I took a look at Wildstang's Desired HD thread and his latest version supports emmc (internal memory). If I recall correctly, earlier versions did not have access to internal GB (the 6GB's of space) because the port is from a phone with no internal storage but this is no longer the case. You should be able to move photos, videos, music to emmc especially since you said have access to it via your computer.
1) Are you on his latest update?
2) What specifically are you asking for help with (moving apps or simply accessing that space)?
Edit: For moving apps, the most I know is that you can move apps to sd or back to your phone. In regards to expanding the 150mb partition of your internal memory, I have no experience doing so. Hopefully someone else can provide input on this.
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thank you for the explanation..
i beleave i am running the latest version. (V.5) of Wildstang
yeah i was just wondering if there was a way to move contacts and aps to that internal memory so the other phone memory would be less crowded and maybe run smoother.
i dont understand how this memory is being used.. there is an internal SD memory.. that i guess is partitioned.. and the smaller partition is used for all the functions of the phone? what is the larger partition used for then?
so i can drop images and music to that section then from the PC
and put aps on the external SD only..
I believe I misinformed you, the 748mb's of of phone storage is all for apps. Im trying to recall where and why I got 150 mb's from.
748 mb = app storage
6.x gb of internal storage (emmc) = Whatever you want to save (music, videos, photos)
7.4 gb sd card = save music, videos, some apps, photos
Hope that clarifies appropriately.
But to use the internal storage, just copy and paste movie or music files to the emmc (if using file explorer on your phone) or using your computer into either "Mp3" folder or "Video" on the Internal memory. I don't play movies on my phone so I don't have experience with that at all. You'll know which is the internal memory vs. Sd card memory if you just look at the space available to identify one from the other.
Hi everyone, I'm new to these forums so please go easy. I'm not even sure if this is the right place to post about the n7102 because there's no section for this phone.
Basically, my problem is that I've recently run out of space on n7102. I cannot download more apps from the Google Play Store. I have tried using Lucky Patcher to remove bug fixes and also tried deleting dalvik-cache, but I think that fixes an entirely different problem.
My device has the following storage spaces:
Phone storage: 500mb
Internal storage: 2gb
External SD card: 16gb
For some reason, the phone writes to the external sd card where I store my media files. However, the internal storage is not even used at the moment. Right now, some apps are saved to the external sd card so my widgets take a while to load on startup. I think this might be because I wiped reformatted my internal memory card after i reformatted my external sd card through Settings > Apps.
I want to know if it is possible to:
1. repartition the phone storage (500mb) to include the unused 2 gb internal storage (total 2.5gb); or
2. swap these two partitions (phone storage 2 gb, internal storage 2.5gb)
I do not want to make a partition on my external sd card to extend my phone storage to use as data
I've looked on the web and this is what I have found:
- MT6577 2GB data repartition with int2ext: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1914184
- Swapping internal and external sd card: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716166
- Mounting /data partition onto the internal storage space: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1648411
I've looked at a lot more pages concerning issues similar to this, but a lot of the time they use phone storage/internal storage/external sd storage, etc., interchangably. It can get quite confusing. I understand that android sees its internal storage and external storage space the same.
I've also read about the file "Mt657xRepartition_EN.rar" and wonder if it can be used on the n7102 without any problems.
Anyhow, thanks for reading this. If you can help, please do. I appreciate it. I only recently got this phone and have been tinkering with it the past few days. Before, I had been using an Xperia U that had 2 GB of phone storage vs the n7102's 500mb of phone storage so I have not run into this problem before.
Cheers.
[UPDATE] I am not sure but the two internal storage spaces may not be merged. I might have to try to use link2sd between these two for apps and save the external sd card for personal storage use.
Hi,
I have rooted my phone, applied the revolutions ROM and also ElementalX Kernal.
Everything is working but when I plug the phone into the PC to sync of look at the files. The Internal SD card says 10 gig not 16 gig.
If I look on the phones storage it says 16 gig still.
Is this something I have done wrong. Is this even possible? I havn't done any partitioning. Just followed the guides.
On a side note - the main reason to custom ROM my phone was so I could save full games and apps to the external SD but it appears I still cannot do this. Can someone advise the proper method in which I can save a complete game on the external card, effectively bypassing the google restrictions. apparently doing everything I have done is still not enough. All the apps I have installed to move files across from internal to external still only send the partial file, not the whole. My 16 gig will soon enough be full and my 64 gig SD card is a complete waste. I didn't buy it for videos and pictures but for games and apps...
thanks
jnatley said:
Hi,
I have rooted my phone, applied the revolutions ROM and also ElementalX Kernal.
Everything is working but when I plug the phone into the PC to sync of look at the files. The Internal SD card says 10 gig not 16 gig.
If I look on the phones storage it says 16 gig still.
Is this something I have done wrong. Is this even possible? I havn't done any partitioning. Just followed the guides.
On a side note - the main reason to custom ROM my phone was so I could save full games and apps to the external SD but it appears I still cannot do this. Can someone advise the proper method in which I can save a complete game on the external card, effectively bypassing the google restrictions. apparently doing everything I have done is still not enough. All the apps I have installed to move files across from internal to external still only send the partial file, not the whole. My 16 gig will soon enough be full and my 64 gig SD card is a complete waste. I didn't buy it for videos and pictures but for games and apps...
thanks
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The phone will show the total capacity of 16GB but you never get the full 16GB (around 14GB is actually available) Of that remaining storage which is partitioned is the OS and other files which takes it down to about 9 which is what you have for use.
Use folder mount for moving games to the sdcard.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount
jnatley said:
I have rooted my phone, applied the revolutions ROM and also ElementalX Kernal.
Everything is working but when I plug the phone into the PC to sync of look at the files. The Internal SD card says 10 gig not 16 gig.
If I look on the phones storage it says 16 gig still.
Is this something I have done wrong. Is this even possible? I havn't done any partitioning. Just followed the guides.
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16GB is the total space available. Some of this space is covered up by system, cache, recovery and other partitions. The PC just shows the data partition, which in most cases is something around 10GB in size.
jnatley said:
On a side note - the main reason to custom ROM my phone was so I could save full games and apps to the external SD but it appears I still cannot do this. Can someone advise the proper method in which I can save a complete game on the external card, effectively bypassing the google restrictions. apparently doing everything I have done is still not enough. All the apps I have installed to move files across from internal to external still only send the partial file, not the whole. My 16 gig will soon enough be full and my 64 gig SD card is a complete waste. I didn't buy it for videos and pictures but for games and apps...
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For this you could use Link2SD, as the donate version gives you the possibility to move full apps to SD.
As a prerequisite you would have to format and partion your SD Card first, e.g. using MiniTool Partition Wizard.
Save all Data on your external SD. After this you have to create TWO primary partitions.
The fist hast to be
FAT32, Primary for all your stuff (Musik, Pictures, Downloads, Backups, ....)
EXT2, Primary (otherwise Link2SD can't create a mount point for the linked Apps
Have you done this an instered your card back into your M8, you open up Link2SD. It will on first run ask for root rights and of which kind your link partition is. Simply choose ext2. Link2SD will then search for the correct primary partition on your external SD and mount it. After this you can Link your Apps to the ext2 partition using Link2SD.
I see. I understand regarding the 10gig storage now. Phew I thought I had lost 6 gig through somehow.
I have installed folder mount and paired a game using source and destination and it moved the file across. I went to check my storage and my internal storage states 1.6gig and my external SD states 0bytes.
I believe this is correct as the phone thinks the internal storage is being used so it says 1.6gig however the files are all on the external.
so if this has worked, why do I need to partition as you mentioned? Has the 1.6gig file not actually moved across then as I have not partitioned it?
thanks
Should I be partitioning the External SD card correct. Not touching the internal?
Also I wouldn't have a clue how large the partitions should be. Is there a ball park figure for a 64 gig SD card considering most space I will use for apps and games rather than music/videos.
Thank you
Phew, didn't see that @gsmyth answered as well. Folder mount is of course a solution as well.
I'm using a 64GB external as well and partitioned it to an amount of 54GB (FAT32 for my music and stuff) and 10GB ext2, as an equivalent to my internal storage available for any data.
Hello everyone, you see I bought an SD 32GB
I want to know if there is a way to use as a primary this card and not the internal memory of the phone, not only want to save the photos, videos, music and that's in the options it brings to change the storage location, what I want is practically unusable leave 5 or 6GB approximate giving the 8GB internal that has to be used, perhaps unusable is not the right word because it sounds like that is damaged or something, but it is not the case
Practically what I want is that everything, absolutely all the information found in the internal memory, change to SD and automatically this as the main stay, to save all kinds of things
I want to split if the SD memory is possible 15/15 or 20/10 GB, for use as internal memory and SD card, so that when you look in the phone information displayed instead of 6GB, this amount as internal memory
Having explained this I think should understand why use the word "useless" because practically 6GB memory brings the phone would no longer be used, everything would be stored in memory SD
I have a Redmi 1S
I'm using the latest Rom V7 China
I think you get to read something like this was possible in Redmi 1, but if I remember one of the cons of doing so was that he should spend a minute after ignition to take effect, which means that if for any reason you should save or something came in that moment the phone memory usage would be 6GB, and not the SD, which I want to avoid at all times if possible in the Redmi 1S
If anyone can help me, I appreciate it!
Please accept my apology for any grammatical errors in advance since English is not my first language
cm 13 has the option to make external sd to be used as internal sd and the rom will format your external sd so make backup if need to, and 2 partition is possible android mm will automatically mount your second partition as removable storage aka external storage. you may need a very fast sdcard. dont blame me if it not work for you since i dont try it myself
antr34 said:
cm 13 has the option to make external sd to be used as internal sd and the rom will format your external sd so make backup if need to, and 2 partition is possible android mm will automatically mount your second partition as removable storage aka external storage. you may need a very fast sdcard. dont blame me if it not work for you since i dont try it myself
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I have a "Samsung 32GB EVO Class 10 Micro SDHC up to 48MB/s " SD Card you think that this is good memory?
automatically cm13 make all this for me? I don't have to do nothing? Only selecting the option to use the sd card memory as internal storage and the true internal storage not be available?
Ronny_Bryant said:
I have a "Samsung 32GB EVO Class 10 Micro SDHC up to 48MB/s " SD Card you think that this is good memory?
automatically cm13 make all this for me? I don't have to do nothing? Only selecting the option to use the sd card memory as internal storage and the true internal storage not be available?
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if you want 2 partitions you better partition the sdcard 1st on your pc, its up to you which size. the rom will ask what you want u want to do with the sdcard (it will mount 2 partition if u have 2 partitions). since i dont try it myself you better heading to cm13 thread